A.D.H.D.! Quick!!! (shove it in their faces)

[beachguy in thongs]

Attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is characterized by a lack of concentration and/or an altered activation level.
People with ADHD are found to violate traffic regulations, to commit criminal offences and to be involved in traffic accidents more often than the statistical norm. Furthermore, they show more deviant behaviour and have an increased co-morbidity regarding substance abuse and dependence. Hence, this disorder is of some forensic importance.
The purpose of this case study is to demonstrate that in some cases people with ADHD may show unusual effects after the consumption of THC. A 28-year-old male, who showed abnormal behaviour and seemed to be significantly maladjusted and inattentive while sober, appeared to be completely normal with a very high plasma level of THC. Performance tests conducted...partly above-average results in functions related to driving.
Thus, it has to be taken into account that in persons with ADHD THC may have atypical and even performance-enhancing effects.

Arch Kriminol. 2007 Jul-Aug;220(1-2):11-9.
[Fitness to drive in spite (because) of THC]


Strohbeck-Kühner P, Skopp G, Mattern R.

Institut für Rechtsmedizin und Verkehrsmedizin der Universität Heidelberg.

[WeedyBoyWonder]

That's good!
Rather than making people choke on 4 or 5 different pills a day which for some reason we seem to do for most illnesses, give em some natural erb and they're sorted.

I was just wondering though, what is "plasma level of THC"?

[beachguy in thongs]

The THC in your bloodstream.

[qdavid]

Jesus!

[Old Stoner]

So THAT's why I drive better stoned, LOL....

[dankus maximus]

I can vouch for this, a steady schedule of pot makes me much less twitchy/fidgety, and a slight increase in concentration ability.

[Old Stoner]

I tend to work harder, especially around the house, if I'm stoned, well, at least I USED TO. STILL in the hunt for that elusive sack, but back when I was smoking regular, if I had grass to cut or whatever, I'd work my ass off, until I was finished. I seemed to do a lot of things much better, and was a helluva lot more creative, when I was stoned.

Oh where, oh where, can the kind buds be, oh where oh where can they be?

He, he, he....

[xcrispi]

Yep ,
It geatly improves my loved ones A.D.H.D symptoms . Able to cut way back on the doseage of Adderall because of it . MMJ rocks . :thumbsup:
Crispi :jointsmile:

[beachguy in thongs]

According to this study, there's living, living with pain, and, living with the pain transformed to something beneficial. That is the case with my pain/T.B.I. symptoms. It's heals the injured with bliss. You can feel God comforting you, through your bud.

[absurdity...]

I'm diagnosed with ADD and they gave me adderall for it. Adderall has worked for schoolwork and things like that, but at the end of the day I have a headache and I am disgusted by food. I find that every time I take an adderall i need to cancel out the negative side effects with weed.

that said, i believe it that weed helps with concentration. when i'm high, i feel like i can actually read faulkner and that is saying quite a bit.
I know that right now I have a lot of reading to do for psychology. i happen to have not smoked weed in about 3 weeks. i am having SO MUCH trouble and all i can think about is getting high. i feel like i'm being tortured waiting for a phone call trying to get weed.

[killerweed420]

Got a neighbor with ADHD. He used to do all the weird stuff sufferers do.Walking up and down stairs multiple times,wash his hands multiple times,could never sit still.He used to take prescriptions and they never helped his symptoms.About 5 years ago he started smoking and you can't tell he has ADHD anymore.
All because of that big bad killer weed!:jointsmile:

[qdavid]

I read part of the newspaper from my hometown online, most days. Today there was a story about how there was a mix-up at some rural school kindergarten the kids were all given Ritalin pills accidentally instead of fluoride tablets they were supposed to get. An aide had them all spit them out, crisis averted. But that raises a lot of questions. Like why the hell are they giving any pills to little kids. What the hell are schools doing having all those Ritalin pills, in the first place. This seems a real strange thing to happen to me and especially at a NY (supposed to be good) school. Sorry, this is kind of a hijack, same subject though, this just has been bothering me. I couldn't believe it. Jesus changed his avatar.

[beachguy in thongs]

It's disgusting, gdavid. Why don't we shove pinball machines in all their faces, just like the rock opera, "Tommy"?

Imagine how evil this world would be if the teachers had all the kids line up to take a hit of a joint, before class?

[killerweed420]

Pot smoking should be mandatory for all overly hyperactive people. If presidents were required to toot it would be a lot calmer world.

[Old Stoner]

Ain't THAT truth, Killer... ;)

[pass_the_dubbie]

My friend has ADHD...I started inviting him over and getting him high. Once we just sat and spaced out to this 9min trippy song and he said "wow...my minds completely clear". Thing is...he's like a hoover..he'll eat anything in the cupboards...sober or high....thats why we beat him ;) (j/k)

[Storm Crow]

Marijuana and ADD Therapeutic uses of Medical Marijuana in the treatment of ADD
Therapeutic uses of Medical Marijuana in the treatment of Attention Deficit Disorder (http://www.onlinepot.org/medical/add&mmj.htm)

Cannabis as a medical treatment for attention deficit disorder
Cannabis as a medical treatment for attention deficit disorder - File psychiatry/psychology - Hemp and Medicine - Welcome to www.hemp-info.ch! The specialist for hemp (Cannabis) in Switzerland (http://www.chanvre-info.ch/info/en/Cannabis-as-a-medical-treatment.html)

Cannabinoids effective in animal model of hyperactivity disorder
IACM-Bulletin (http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/bulletin/ww_en_db_cannabis_artikel.php?id=162#4)

Cannabis 'Scrips to Calm Kids?
FOXNews.com - Cannabis 'Scrips to Calm Kids? - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117541,00.html)

Plus as a teacher's aide, I work with middle school kids. We had this one hyper kid (failing badly) who occasionally came to school reeking of pot with red eyes. He did his best work on those days. The teacher and I chose to ignore it. He passed 7th grade- barely. :D He moved away- Good luck, my boy, wherever you are! And hell yes, we KNEW! We aren't THAT dumb! lol
- Granny:hippy:

[fmacanthaya]

Actually, you are wrong. I got this from SPECT Brain SPECT Imaging Information and Resources (http://www.amenclinics.com:)

ADD Inattentive Type
The onset of these symptoms often become apparent later in child-hood or early adolescence. The brighter the individual, the later symptoms seem to become a problem. The symptoms must be present for at least six months and not be related to a depressive episode or the onset of marijuana usage. Using marijuana can often make a person seem as though they have ADD without hyperactivity. It is important to screen for pot usage in teen-agers or adults.

I took this online test because I might have A.D.D and I wanted to make sure before I go to the doctor and waste money. But yeah I most probably have major ADD lol. Fuck

[suhl]

i have add or i was diagnosed with it back when a lot of kids first started getting diagnosed. hell if smoking was the treatment i never would have gone off the meds, the other stuff was honestly like a low dose cocaine that lasted all day it sucked

[gogg]

This topic is of alot of importance to me since I'm ADD and I smoke everyday. I think it's important to know that to smoke for a positive effect with a person with ADD the right kind of weed has to be used. If the person is ADHD or hyperactive then an Indica strain of weed should be used. If the person is ADD and the opposite of hyperactive (this is what I am), the person should use a Satvia strain of marijuana for the most benificial effects. There has also been recent research that shows a person can be ADD with both hyperactivity and non-hyperactivity (both symptoms), for these people I would suggest a hybrid, or an indica, or satvia depending on their attention mood at the moment.

When will doctors be doing more research on this? Because I feel like there should be ALOT more information on this.

[FUNKNUGGET]

first off, I have ADD (was officially diagnosed at age 10, but teachers since 1st grade had suspected it). I was perscribed dozens of pills, all of which helped me concentrate, but at the same time i felt like a zombie/crackhead (I never slept, ate, I always felt uncomfortable and jittery, I had absolutely no creativity, and I was just unhappy overall)


Anyways after a year or 2 of taking pills I started to expirament with marijuana, and i found that when I was on pills it completely took the side effects away... and after a while of doing this I realized that I didn't need the fucking pills (Which are basically crank pills).

About sophmore year of HS i completely switched to weed and never took an ADD pill again (one of the best/easiest decisions I've ever made). It helped me graduate High School, and is now aiding me in college. I get way more done at work while stoned and I have a lot more fun doing it. Marijuana also opened me up socially, I never had too many friends before i started smokin, but when I did I could chill with just about anybody from my school and have a good time....


Now I'm doing well thanks to the herb. And thank god I live in Cali (ADD is recognized as a disorder remedied by marijuana) for the medical laws.


I think it's important to know that to smoke for a positive effect with a person with ADD the right kind of weed has to be used. If the person is ADHD or hyperactive then an Indica strain of weed should be used. If the person is ADD and the opposite of hyperactive (this is what I am), the person should use a Satvia strain of marijuana for the most benificial effects.

I completely agree



I'm diagnosed with ADD and they gave me adderall for it. Adderall has worked for schoolwork and things like that, but at the end of the day I have a headache and I am disgusted by food. I find that every time I take an adderall i need to cancel out the negative side effects with weed.



You don't need the Adderall, my friend. It's a nasty drug and it's not worth it....

[gogg]

hey funknugget, how do you medicate yourself? I'm assuming your not hyperactive because of the "crank" pills they gave you. I usually smoke a small amount in the morning and take small hits throughout the day when I have enough supply and money, not to mention that but its hard for me to find sativa varieties, so i end up smoking indica and creating adverse effects. :/ I've reciently become interested in getting medication for ADD, and I'm getting tested at the end of this week. I already know im ADD, both therapists ive seen so far can tell just from looking at me, plus I can tell myself. But this new therapist who is like the only one in town whos on my insurance and taking new patients seems to be anti-weed. I've only seen her once so far, but she used to be in charge of some kind of pretrial program for juviniles who got in trouble with drugs (weed). She seemed to be very interested in my marijuana habits and dosages, etc. When I said i smoked everyday cause it helps me she was like ok well we're going to have to do something about that.

This has gotten me thinking, shes probably going to perscribe me stimulants out the ass and going to try to get me to quit smoking.

I have a better idea, since i've never taken adderal in my life I'll try it for a week or whatever and see if it helps alot. However, I don't really want to quit smoking, so if it doesn't work while im smoking then oh well (would this depend on it being sativa or indica?).

What I really want to do is move somewhere where I can get medical mary and medicate myself with cannabis sativa strains only. :/

It sucks having a disorder that some people don't even believe in, thats cured by a drug that some people believe has no medical qualities.:(

[FUNKNUGGET]

gogg- you're right, Im not ADHD, I'm ADD and there is a big difference. The H of course means hyperactivity, which I don't have, I just have trouble focusing on things and getting things done.

If weed really helps you aswell, you should go talk to a pot doc.... your normal doctor will not give u a medical recommendation guaranteed. Just go to your regular doc and tell him what's wrong. He will write down your symptoms and all that, so you have documentation of ADD/whatever condition. The pot doc will take a look at your medical records and ask you a few questions... and if he/she thinks marijuana could benefit you then they will write you a recommendation... then you can posess a certain amount legally and buy your medicine from any dispensary in your state (atleast that's how it is in cali). That way you can get whatever strain you need for your condition

[illnillinois]

that guy knows his stuff. i use pot for add/adhd. works wonders

[Terps]

man i was a ginnie pig for my doc while growing up i was on every drug there was for ADHD at one point and time everything from ritalin, concerta, adderall, dexedrine, strattera.

the only one that did ANYTHING was adderall i was on 60mg of adderall xr every day. i felt like a fuckin zombie i would sit in class and do nothing i wouldnt talk i would raise my hand i was so dam anti social on adderall it was crazy but hey thats what my parents liked cause i wasnt so active then. i didnt eat cause adderall KILLED my hunger. once i got into like 10th or 11th grade i tried meth for the first (and last time), it felt like i just took my adderall. so i said FUCK THAT and quite adderall went cold turkey off that shit and it fucked me up i went threw withdrawls from adderall even got sick as fuck.

Thats when i got high for the vry first time, calmd me right down. weed is the best cure for ADHD. i will vouch.

[beachguy in thongs]

This topic is of alot of importance to me since I'm ADD and I smoke everyday. I think it's important to know that to smoke for a positive effect with a person with ADD the right kind of weed has to be used. If the person is ADHD or hyperactive then an Indica strain of weed should be used. If the person is ADD and the opposite of hyperactive (this is what I am), the person should use a Satvia strain of marijuana for the most benificial effects. There has also been recent research that shows a person can be ADD with both hyperactivity and non-hyperactivity (both symptoms), for these people I would suggest a hybrid, or an indica, or satvia depending on their attention mood at the moment.

When will doctors be doing more research on this? Because I feel like there should be ALOT more information on this.

This is from October, though it's more on 'substance abuse disorders'.

Arch Gen Psychiatry. 2007 Oct;64(10):1145-52.
Prospective effects of attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder, conduct disorder, and sex on adolescent substance use and abuse.
Elkins IJ, McGue M, Iacono WG.

Department of Psychology, University of Minnesota, 75 E River Road, Minneapolis, MN 55455, USA. [email protected]

CONTEXT: Attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), an early manifestation of externalizing behavior, may identify children at high risk for later substance abuse. However, the ADHD-substance abuse relationship often disappears when co-occurring conduct disorder (CD) is considered. OBJECTIVE: To determine whether there is a prospective relationship between ADHD and the initiation of substance use and disorders, and whether this relationship depends on the ADHD subtype (hyperactive/impulsive or inattentive), CD, or sex. DESIGN, SETTING, AND PARTICIPANTS: Dimensional and categorical measures of ADHD and CD were examined via logistic regression analyses in relation to subsequent initiation of tobacco, alcohol, and illicit drug use by 14 years of age and onset of substance use disorders by 18 years of age in a population-based sample of 11-year-old twins (760 female and 752 male twins) from the Minnesota Twin Family Study. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Structured interviews were administered to adolescents and their mothers regarding substance use and to generate diagnoses. RESULTS: For boys and girls, hyperactivity/impulsivity predicted initiation of all types of substance use, nicotine dependence, and cannabis abuse/dependence (for all, P < .05), even when controlling for CD at 2 time points. By contrast, relationships between inattention and substance outcomes disappeared when hyperactivity/impulsivity and CD were controlled for, with the possible exception of nicotine dependence. A categorical diagnosis of ADHD significantly predicted tobacco and illicit drug use only (adjusted odds ratios, 2.01 and 2.82, respectively). A diagnosis of CD between 11 and 14 years of age was a powerful predictor of substance disorders by 18 years of age (all odds ratios, > 4.27). CONCLUSIONS: Hyperactivity/impulsivity predicts later substance problems, even after growth in later-emerging CD is considered, whereas inattention alone poses less risk. Even a single symptom of ADHD or CD is associated with increased risk. Failure in previous research to consistently observe relationships between ADHD and substance use and abuse outcomes could be due to reliance on less-sensitive categorical diagnoses.

[NLX2007]

Hmmm pot would definitely work better IMO.
YouTube - Medical marijuana for ADD and its good for kids! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj72e5q61Fs) (embed wouldn't work for me)

HAHAHA and I just took an online test to see if I have adult add, and the results were 91% percent positive that i do. Personally I think this is bullshit, the questions are so vague, and most people probably have it then, according to this test: *SARCASM*VERY ACCURATE TEST*/SARCASM* (http://psychcentral.com/cgi-bin/add.cgi)

[Agressor1]

I'm not even kidding, i'm getting a medicinal card for this!
I'm 16 and I have been diagnosed with ADHD since I was 7.
I read quite a few studies lately on ADHD and medical marijuana,
it really made me feel better though cause it confirmed my suspicion when I found i'm getting straight A's in highschool when i've been to school high for several days!

[gogg]

Alright guys, I'm back from the doctor. This was my 3rd visit. The last visit was the testing and this one was the results. I answered all the questions truthfully and the results came back pretty much 50/50 inconclusive. I blame the testing. I played a computer game that tested reaction time, on the results my RT was way better than kids with attention deficit, hmmm, i wonder why, oh maybe cause its just a computer game where you hit the space bar when the letter comes up (except for "X"). I don't really see what that has to do with ADD. As far as the questions, i think it would be hard to tell anything because I'm already self medicated. If anything the pot is helping, not hurting, and she thinks the reason my scores are low for attention and memory is because of weed. I also noticed the test said I have a "drug" problem because I answered that i smoked pot. Shouldn't a legit test be invalidated if someone answered that? Well, as part of the results she gave me a big lecture on pot and says she thinks the reason i'm having problems with attention is that i smoke every day, even though i told her i had the same problems, probably even worse when i was clean for a year and a half. Her visual aid for her lecture and the facts she read to me are here:
NIDA Drugs of Abuse and Related Topics - Marijuana (http://www.nida.nih.gov/drugpages/marijuana.html)

She also told me doctors in California (or anywhere in the US) cannot prescribe cannabis to anyone. It's illegal.
She didn't know there were 2 forms of the cannabis plant (indica and sativa). She also didn't know how to spell cannabis.... :O

[illnillinois]

I am a STRONG supporter of weed for ADD and ADHD.
I have ADD, and have had pills pushed in my face since i was 6. Im 28 now, I smoke it now to control my case and it is a NIGHT AND DAY difference.
It doesn't make me a super hero person, it just brings me to a level playing field as the others.
I still have to work on being a better husband and father.
Without it, it is hard to finsh tasks, temper can flair. The only thing that is bad is running out. Its in my system for 2 weeks, off for 3, on for a week, off for 2 weeks.. My body is saying WHAT THE F()CK
is going on..

[khronik]

I have inattentive ADD. To be honest, smoking pot makes me feel even more ADDish than I usually do. Actually, 'attention deficit disorder' is kind of a misnomer, since most people with ADD can focus extremely well, just on all the wrong things. When I'm stoned, that's compounded. I'm easily distracted by shiny objects, and if I go into work even a day after being stoned, I'm constantly forgetting things and losing track of what I'm supposed to be doing.

I know there are people who will read this thread and think that they'd like to use pot to treat their ADD, but at least for me, adderall helps me keep my focus whereas weed would make me lose it. I'll admit it might be helpful for people with the hyperactive variety, but be aware that it can definitely make things worse.

[Everyday Struggle]

I think that i have ADHD..
I've never been diagnosed with it but
I'm figety and restless all day
i even get an uneasy feeling when im bored
like im going to go crazy
i don't like it at all and im not sure what to do
basically my mom just thinks i want some kind of medicine
[She thinks im a druggy]
I've tried adderall before and it worked like a charm
but the side effects aren't cool
herb helps me feel more relaxed with as little as one hit.
I would much rather remedy my hyperactivity with a natural medicine rather that a synthesized chemical stimulant. :jointsmile: