Do you think porn stars are whores?

[The.Severed.Angel]

It sounds like an easy question. You think of all the sexual parnters they have had, and what kinds of things they do for a living.

I mean, it's somewhat of a controversial question, technically, there are "whores," but I never really thought about it in that sense, and I couldn't say they were whores.

[THClord]

No, I wouldn't say they are. Porn stars can work and at the same time have a meaningful relationship with someone IMO.

For them work isn't cheating, and they will not cheat on their partner more than maybe you and me.


Actually if I think about it more, maybe they are whores. But only because of how they got into porn in the first place, and not because they are actually porn stars. Like the entire casting thing. Have sex with a stranger on camera.....

[slipknotpsycho]

dunno how anyone could see them as NOT being whores....

whore - Definitions from Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whore)

except for the few 'couples' tehre is out there, they're just really famous prostitutes....

[cannabis campbell]

Well yes and no yes for the obvious reason but no because, its a job when they are not working doesnt mean they are going to be like they are in porn doesnt mean they are easy and have no self respect does it?

[slipknotpsycho]

Well yes and no yes for the obvious reason but no because, its a job when they are not working doesnt mean they are going to be like they are in porn doesnt mean they are easy and have no self respect does it?

i would say it does.... what self respecting person would fuck for millions of people rather then just get a regular job... i mean... just think about it lol.... there's obviously self-respect missing somewhere...

[action.420]

i would say they are whores... I mean there is a plenty of other jobs out there.

[cannabis campbell]

Why though slip because they are showing off their bodies? maybe they are comfortable with that In some way I dont see how that makes them a slut/whore

[slipknotpsycho]

because they're just fucking random people for money.... which is exactly what a whore/prostitue is... (they don't do it to be famous, they get paid for it)

dunno it's just imo... strippers would be the one exception of not fucking for money, but still being a 'whore' i know everyone probably sees it as a dirty nasty easy girl, but it's the context you see the word in... i don't label any actual context to the word, i just go by the definition...

[giggy]

ofcourse theyre whores!! theyre glorified prostitutes!! I went to highschool with a girl whose now a porn star...she was actually in an episode of BangBus! her porn star name is Courtney Cumz lol...look her up. I only knew her for 3 years but apparantly she had a fucked up childhood.

[Veratyr Star]

Well, when someone calls another girl a whore, it's an insult.

Pornstars know what they do and we like what they do. So calling them a whore is pointless and makes no sense.

So I say no they aren't whores.

[cannabis campbell]

Well just because they fuck random people for money as a pornstar does not nessacerily mean they do off-set aswell does it?

Just because arnold schwarzenegger kicks peoples asses on screen doesnt mean hes anything like that off screen get what im trying to say?

[slipknotpsycho]

Well just because they fuck random people for money as a pornstar does not nessacerily mean they do off-set aswell does it?

Just because arnold schwarzenegger kicks peoples asses on screen doesnt mean hes anything like that off screen get what im trying to say?

i don't think you're getting what i'm trying to say =/ so ima just leave it there....

[rebgirl420]

Well, when someone calls another girl a whore, it's an insult.

Pornstars know what they do and we like what they do. So calling them a whore is pointless and makes no sense.

So I say no they aren't whores.

I agree. I think the whole "whore" or "slut" name is usually a double standard. Its cool for guys to have sex all the time but when a girl does it shes a "whore". Maybe they just know what they like sexually. Good for them. As long as they feel good about themselves I don't think their "whores".

[ntcrawler]

I agree. I think the whole "whore" or "slut" name is usually a double standard. Its cool for guys to have sex all the time but when a girl does it shes a "whore". Maybe they just know what they like sexually. Good for them. As long as they feel good about themselves I don't think their "whores".

QFT. I mean what guy has not thought about how nice it would be to get paid to fuck. I mean, people are paying you to orgasm and feel all good.

[OLDE ENGLISH '800]

i say they are the smart ones there getting payed for what normal ppl give away for free

[slipknotpsycho]

QFT. I mean what guy has not thought about how nice it would be to get paid to fuck. I mean, people are paying you to orgasm and feel all good.

i'd be that guy.....(honestly)... just ask my wife if she thinks i'd be seen naked by others.... money or not...

[dean0000]

IMO anyone who fucks hundreds of people over a short period of time is a dirty whore.

[crudemood]

well i'm assuming this thread was aimed towards women AND men. Lets be honest women are NOT the only ones who star in porn films. I see a few comments on here who have been made only towards girls and then throwing in the word slut JUST because the subject was a girl. There ARE men whores too and men sluts too everyone is just used to having to use slut/whore associated with a girl, now why is that. We are NOT sex objects.. thanks.

[birdgirl73]

I hate the term "whore" because it's so disparaging. But I do agree that those folks, men and women alike, are selling their bodies for sex, whether it's on film or not. From a transaction standpoint, that's no different than prostitution. And Cannabis, if you've read biographies or personal accounts from the porn stars, both current and former (like Jenna Jameson, for instance), you'll see that much more often than not, they really don't like that work at all. Many of them stay drugged out of their minds to be able to engage in random sex like that with multiple strangers and partners. They report that it's soul-killing work that exploits them and victimizes them, despite the fact that they often pretend like it's a great, wonderful work gig they're at the zenith of their stardom. I'm sure they have to put on that face to their producers and public to be able to keep the defense mechanisms in place that allow them to sell themselves like that.

Seriously, think about it. Sex because someone likes sex and likes the people with whom he/she is having sex with is one thing for those who want to have lots of partners and sexual activity. But selling your body and soul on film having sex with perfect strangers where there's no affection or acquaintance and where millions of perfect strangers are going to see it? That's quite another. It definitely qualifies as exploitation for money. In surveys and studies, porn stars have a much higher than average frequency of having been rape or abuse victims in their pasts. The ones who've written or spoken at greatest length about the way abusive pasts factored in admit later that the porno work was yet another form of victimization.

There are several good documentaries out about this subject--the real truth about the human price of porn on its stars. One of them Dave and I watched last year was called "Sex: The Annabel Chong Story." It was heartbreaking.

[cannabis campbell]

Yeah birdie I seen that the worlds biggest gangbang wasnt it 300 men in 2 hours ok that is DEFINATELY A WHORE!


And Cannabis, if you've read biographies or personal accounts from the porn stars, both current and former (like Jenna Jameson, for instance), you'll see that much more often than not, they really don't like that work at all.

Birdie I have been on some of their person websites and on none of them has it says they dont like their work? Why wouldnt they?

Do you mean they actually say they hate making porn??

[slipknotpsycho]

Yeah birdie I seen that the worlds biggest gangbang wasnt it 300 men in 2 hours ok that is DEFINATELY A WHORE!



Birdie I have been on some of their person websites and on none of them has it says they dont like their work? Why wouldnt they?

Do you mean they actually say they hate making porn??

the acutal question is why would they.... you posted in the sad porn thread.... alot of people feel that way.... mos twant to see a woman (or man) enjoying the hell outta themselves, and anything negative just destroys it.... if they wanna stay in buisness they have to act like ti's the best thing ever.... otherwise the director will just find someone else....

also those 'self run' sites (as they claim) aren't run by themselves.... it's just part of the image... someone else is behind it all.... the girls just act like it's all their doing so they seem more willing and attract more people.... if they seem to be a 'slut' more men are gonna have fantasies about them and maybe some day they will meet them and get to see themnaked in person.....

it's all about selling an image....

[birdgirl73]

It makes sense to me that they'd say that on their Web sites. Those are their sites promoting their porn personas, promoting their work, their films during a time when they're invested in appearing to be happy and positive in their reactions to what they're doing. But those same people, later on after they're past the high points of their careers, often are more candid about what they really felt when that was going on. That's when the stories of having had to stay drugged out of their gourds to do that work, the exploitation, the feeling of their re-living (in a different way) earlier abuse come out.

Certainly there could be people who are indeed happy in that work. But the research that's been done with those people after they've left the industry--and there's been a good bit of it--tells a very different story. When we had more kids on this site, they'd often argue, just as they'd argue about how harmless a gang-bang is for a willing young lady, that I'm just not in touch with reality of how enjoyable those activities are. The truth is that in 17 years, I've worked with enough abuse victims of different kinds at our local crisis center that I've seen a whole lot more reality of porn, exotic dancing, gang bangs, abuse, and other horrors than most people. I've seen first-hand the emotional toll that can take.

Cannabis, can you see why big porn stars might be willing to say they loved that work as it's happening when, in fact, they might really feel differently on a deeper level or later, in retrospect? It's the same thing as someone in a deplorable work situation with a horrid boss saying "I love my job!" and smiling on the surface. Personally, it helps them defend against the reality of how much a job like that hurts. And professionally, it's a way of "playing the game" and pretending job enthusiasm so bosses (in porn, the producers or distributors) will think, "Wow, this is a great employee" and customers in porn will think, "Wow, this man/lady loves his/her work. That's hot."

Deep down in porn stars' faces, if you look real close, I think perceptive people can see the empty, blank, soul-less expressions on those actors' faces. Film editors and producers work hard not to capture that emptiness on film, but I think the lack of emotional connection still shows through.

[cannabis campbell]

Birdie when you say drugged out of their gourds do you mean drugged up illegally when they are doing it or what?

I would think that it would be a whole different story for the male porn stars though I mean to them it would probably be like a dream come true getting paid lots of money to fuck good looking girls.

Obviously a gang bang would also depend on how many men there are for example the one Annabel Chong has was a bit over the top with 300 men lol, But put it this way if you like giving head and you like anal that obviously it would feel better to have 3 cocks inside you all at the same time instead of one, it makes sense right?

If they hated their jobs so much they could easily QUIT couldn't they? Just the same as singers or actors/actress why would they do it if they didnt like it?

Obviously theres no emotional connection its just sex with strangers lol.

[birdgirl73]

Birdie when you say drugged out of their gourds do you mean drugged up illegally when they are doing it or what?
Not drugged against their will or involuntarily, at least not in the things I've read and watched. Most of them just said that often to get themselves to a place where they could complete some of the scenes they were called to do, they'd numb themselves out or pump themselves up with various substances we can't talk about here, from liquor to pills to powders to crystalline substances.

You ever seen the movie "Boogie Nights," Cannabis? It's a fictional account of a 70s-era American porn star, but the screenplay was inspired by a number of real stories from stars from that era. It's a good film!

[slipknotpsycho]

Not drugged against their will or involuntarily, at least not in the things I've read and watched. Most of them just said that often to get themselves to a place where they could complete some of the scenes they were called to do, they'd numb themselves out or pump themselves up with various substances we can't talk about here, from liquor to pills to powders to crystalline substances.

You ever seen the movie "Boogie Nights," Cannabis? It's a fictional account of a 70s-era American porn star, but the screenplay was inspired by a number of real stories from stars from that era. It's a good film!


i thought so as well, but probably for diffrent reasons... i saw the movie when i was 12.... lmao....

[birdgirl73]

"Boogie Nights" contains all the disco music and long hair that were a part of my misspent youth!

[slipknotpsycho]

"Boogie Nights" contains all the disco music and long hair that were a part of my misspent youth!

no no that's not why i liked it either lol

[cannabis campbell]

Nah I havent seen that movie before but seeing as we cant talk about those "substances" here its pretty obvious what it is.

So even though these porn movies are professionally done they would actually incourage this!?

[birdgirl73]

Well, I think recreational drugs are a big part of that particular film culture. Again, from the accounts I've read from former stars, that was to have an analgesic or stimulating effect (or both) to help them relax and get through the scenes. I think maybe that rather than encouraging the drug use, producers and directors more often consider it a fact of doing business in that film genre--a reality that they don't actively discourage. I could be wrong about that, though. I'm sure some stars might even make help-along substances a term of their contracts just like rock stars have been known to do in their "riders."

[cannabis campbell]

Lol true cant say this man hasnt ever taken any.

[birdgirl73]

No, that's true. Poor Ozzie has definitely taken too much of that stuff in his lifetime.

It's bad enough what it's done to his brain.

Just look what it's done to his teeth. . . .

[PlantBoxer]

To me, porn stars, prostitutes are simply working folks. Simple goods and services exchange.

A whore/slut girl/guy, are people using either good looks, good body, to dupe a person into believing they really care or love for them, for materialistc gain. They want something for nothing.

[blackbarbie]

well, by definition, they are whores, but i wouldn't disrespect them or judge them b/c of their profession. shoot, they are smarter than the average whore or whoever has a 1 night stand b/c at least they're getting paid for it when everyone else is having casual sex for free.

[el_fantistico]

One thing to think about, pornstars aren't (usually) screwing every Tom, Dick and Harry that can scrounge together enough money to go and see them. They are having sex with other "professionals" who are also getting paid to be there. Also, the sex that takes place for the most part, isn't about getting their partner off, like how an escort would act towards a john, they have to be concerned with keeping things going long enough to get the necessary shots before the "finish". As well, to achieve many of the standard porn views the performers often have to be in uncomfortable and unnatural positions while smiling and being probed simultaneously. There certainly is more "work" involved with being a "pornstar", but with a smaller pool of partners than a "whore" who only has to be goal oriented but with many more people.

BTW - I'm not talking from experience, I'm just high.

El Fantistico :smokin:

[el_fantistico]

Oh yeah... and are they whores? Yes, but I mean that in a very good way!

El Fantistico :smokin:

[Canadian_Cron]

yes.... i really think i shouldnt have to expalin this but since you asked i guess ill have to.

heres a question.... what would you call a girl from your school that had sex with people she didnt know for money, video taped it and sold it over the internet?..... a whore!

[trainwreck530]

no way. they are actors and performers. you think what they do is all a cake walk? to always stay hard and stay in shape?

i look at it like they have a job they do just like everyone else. this is the 21st century americans need to take a lesson from other countries and look at sex objectively. our culture is so hush hush. you cant even say certain words and nudity is always an issue. but they constantly shove it in your face.

which isnt a bad thing we are sexual beings. too many politics attached to sex. are they whores? HELL NO. prostitutes NO WAY. syndicated, copyrighted and associated. the key word here is actor boogie nights is my fav movie of all time and it explores the topic.


DONNY:D

[trainwreck530]

actually i would call them a player. canadian cron it sounds like YOU got played. or at the very least she came up, came out on top. dont hate the player, not everything is for everyone to see.

whore is a VERY strong word. it is more than just sheer acts it is also attitude and disposition, etc.

[angry nomad]

It's all subjective. In my opinion, yes, they are whores. Jesus loved whores, and so do I. If it wasn't for whores, a lot of guys out there would still be virgins.

[Struck420]

yea they are whores.:thumbsup:

[TheGreenBuddy]

i would say it does.... what self respecting person would fuck for millions of people rather then just get a regular job... i mean... just think about it lol.... there's obviously self-respect missing somewhere...

a Horny person.

[hero3279]

Nah they're not whores. I know so many pornstars and they're all very down to earth. It's no big deal for some people, they just see it as a job. How someone might see it as "getting fucked by guys"....the girl might be thinking "earning a living for my daughter"....you know? The truth is relative.

[nurse maryjane]

Purely from dictionary definition, yes they are whores. So are the chicks that screw guys (or other chicks)so they'll pay the light bill. So are the guys that screw chicks (or other guys) to pay the cable bill. Exchange of sex for monies or goods and services...

Morally, I agree with Bird....every interview, book, and documentary i've seen show people (mostly the women) that have been molested, used and abused, and just basically led down a merry path. Most of them admit to resorting to drugs and liquor to be able to perform. I haven't seen much in the way of exploited men, but I'm sure there's probably some out there.

[kingjustin]

The only job I could find when I moved to Oregon was in a porn store and I met some really down to earth "adult film stars"...I dunno, they're people too. No need to label them because of his/her chosen profession.

[Unknown American]

Yes, they are whores. Nothing wrong with that.

They are like peanut butter- they spread for bread.

That does not mean I do not respect their artistic performance abilities.

Hey, I would smoke a joint with them.:thumbsup: