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Gandalf_The_Grey
09-21-2007, 07:11 PM
Rather than blindly adhere to the claims made by the US government and certain conservative talkshow hosts, I say we actually do some independant research and establish some cross-cultural understanding. There are so many "facts" about the Iranian president that so many people take for granted, not actually taking the effort to verify these claims for themselves.

As I've come to realized more and more, the most powerful political tool is to simply make a lie, say it with total confidence as if it's indisputable truth, and say it again and again. Do this, and pretty soon people just stop asking question.

Well I say we have to keep asking questions, and absolutely everything should be open to questioning. These politicians who insist that certain people (like Ahmadinejad) shouldn't be allowed to be heard are an insult to democracy and free speech, and we should all be highly suspicious when an opponent isn't allowed to give their side of the story. I don't care if your a nazi, communist, KKK member, or lizard people proponent. If you're wrong, we have nothing to fear from hearing your arguments and logically countering them. Suppression of such only validates your opponent.

That being said, I encourage everybody to watch the following video's of Ahmadinejad and *gasp* hear both sides of the debate.

Ahmadinejad did not threaten to ??wipe Israel off the map?.

YouTube - Ahmadinejad DID NOT threaten to "wipe Israel off the map." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ)

Ahmadinejad clarifying his stance on holocaust denial. He is not claiming the holocaust didn't happen as a fact, he's saying that absolutely everything must be open to analysis, and they're researching it for themselves. While I know 100% that the holocaust did indeed happen (my grandfather saw it first hand), I agree with him 100% when he says that it's wrong that we have certain issues which are established as fact and therefor won't allow any argument to the contrary.

YouTube - Iran's Ahmadinejad on Holocaust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykd-syzZ4ZY)

Making very valid arguments for why they despise the American, British, and Israeli governments.

YouTube - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Nuclear Threats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ywoLsATW9w)

Making his argument about Iran??s right to produce nuclear energy, and their intentions regarding nuclear weapons.

YouTube - Dr. Ahmadinejad CNN Interview on Nuclear Issue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UIYs2g9X0I)

king of the world
09-21-2007, 07:27 PM
i agree with you, most of the people watch the news and take everything as fact. they never go to the real source.

eg420ne
09-21-2007, 07:33 PM
Good post Gandalf the Grey, but i see this quote from vostro-"I do believe everything the government tells me", and i see that it tells me they will not ever question the government...its all-knowing & all-loving.............they are small numbers now, but the criminals still has our nation hostaged......

ntcrawler
09-21-2007, 09:07 PM
Very nice post. I have to say this man is very very intelligent and it is obvious he just doesn't want to be bullied. I also have to say that he is a very snazzy dresser!

jakez
09-21-2007, 10:28 PM
Great post, I haven't watched the videos yet but will be in a few.. thanks!

Zimzum
09-21-2007, 10:46 PM
Go here, MEMRI: The Middle East Media Research Institute (http://www.memri.org) and MEMRI TV (http://www.memritv.org)

Much better translation to events happening in the middle east. Memri TV has a bunch of covered subjects and the Arab Holocaust denial is one of the topics.

eg420ne
09-21-2007, 11:27 PM
MEMRI Israeli intelligence propaganda machine
always screwing with the arab's translation.....

Psycho4Bud
09-22-2007, 04:52 PM
So the entire international community along with it's own translators is wrong........glad to hear it. LOL

Have a good one!:s4:

Psycho4Bud
09-22-2007, 04:53 PM
MEMRI Israeli intelligence propaganda machine
always screwing with the arab's translation.....

LMAO!!! Yipper, Israel is definately behind it.....nice avatar.

Have a good one!:s4:

medicinal
09-22-2007, 06:42 PM
LMAO!!! Yipper, Israel is definately behind it.....nice avatar.

Have a good one!:s4:

They probably are. They have the most to gain by taking out Iran. I believe we, The American people, should be allowed to hear all world leaders and make up our own minds. I'd venture to say Hugo Chavez and Castro have some interesting things to say to us. Why keep them from talking to us? Is the US government afraid to let us hear anything but their brainwashed version of world news? I think people are smart enough to listen to other countries and make up their own minds. The American version of world news is pure brainwash. And they call the soviet union and N.Korea brainwashed. I might agree that N. Korea has us beat, but I'll bet in Russia you get as much real news as we do.