suicide

[gothicblood]

a guy my friend knew comitted suicide. and his mom said it was a bad accient. i just feel so fuckin depressed.

[az666]

shit dude that sucks...:(...im sorry to hear about your friends loss...

[slipnslide087]

sorry to hear that man.

[robert42]

sry to hear that

how and why did he kill himself man?

THERES ALWAYS SUM1 WORSE THEN U.

THINK BEFORE YOU ACT!

[juggalo420]

that sucks

[gothicblood]

he hung himself from his bunkbed and i dunno why. people said it was cuz he got detention :confused: and his 8 year old brother found him.

[billie]

siucide = a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

[az666]

how true is that!
No offence but if he did hang himself because he got detention then....words cannot describe what a waste of a life that was....not in a bad way....in the way that he could of grown up to be a scientist and discovery a cure for aids or cancer or summin...i dont know...u know what i mean....its just so sad that people have to do sumthing so drastic....anyway sorry if i offended anyone and once again...im sorry for your loss

[Byker]

Barenaked Ladies are not a group that's known for profound lyrics, but when I went to see them in Boston in March 2004, they sang a song from their latest album called "War On Drugs" that was about the most serious one I've ever heard them do.

They said it was inspired by a bridge over a highway viaduct, near where they live in Toronto. This bridge has the unfortunate distinction of being the place with the second highest suicide rate of any bridge in North America, after the Golden Gate. Because of this, the highway authorities put up anti-suicide netting on this bridge.

So ya know what happened? The jumpers moved one bridge down on the highway. As they sing, "When nature calls / You go."

The verse that gets to me in the song is this one --

In the dream I refuse to have
She falls asleep in a lukewarm bath
We're left to deal with the aftermath again

And that's just it. Suicides are really cruel to the people you leave behind. I think one of the most motivating anti-suicide realizations one can have is that when you go out that way, you leave a lot of people behind who never quite recover.

No doubt you feel terrible, and I'm really sorry for you. I can't imagine what your friend's 8 year old brother is going through, and what his life will be. The only thing that I can suggest anyone to remember is that it wasn't the 8 year old's or your decision, and so you can't take responsibility for it. Sucks to have to be reminded of that, I know, but it's the only way I can imagine being able to get over something like this, eventually.

If you'd like to read all the lyrics, they're at
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/barenakedladies/warondrugs.html

And this verse ...

From the very fear that makes you want to die
Is just the same as what keeps you alive
It's way more trouble than some suicide is worth

... is something that I've actually thought of on my own -- that in a way, suicide is just too much fucking trouble, and in its own way, just boring. There's an upside to being depressed sometimes, especially when you look back and see what you've gone thorough, and you realize you're better and happier for having gone through it. You miss that if you kill yourself -- and you put a whole lot of shit on people who care about you.

I hope you'll feel better soon. Good luck.

[RESiNATE]

What an excellent post, Byker - your eloquence is something that I admire...succint and compassionate.

I must confess to having contemplated suicide on many occasions - my reasons are not important, but my restraint from such action is.
It would give me a great deal of pleasure to be able to sit here and talk about some inspiring philosophy that I draw upon during these times, but alas, I am unable to do that.

There is no rapturous sermon, nor is there any intellectual inspiration.
The simple reason that I do not carry out this tragic 'solution' is GUILT.

Guilt that my children would have to grow up knowing that I was too weak to fight against my problems.
Guilt that my parents would feel that they had missed the signs, or failed in their upbringing of me.
Guilt that, in my final act of selfishness, I would be the cause of a great deal of heart-ache and sorrow.

I know how it feels to be at the bottom, but I also know that my problems pale into insignificance next to those problems faced by countless others on a daily basis.
When I consider that in some countries, a family member has to walk 40miles a day, just to provide their family with a pot of water, or that the place in which they live would be considered by us not to be fit to place our cattle in - then I guess that I am being slightly ungrateful for what I actually do have.

I would imagine that the guy in question (no disrespect intended) had rather more on his mind than simply a detention issue.
Speaking as someone who has first hand experience of this terrible state of mind, and who has been witness to someone on the brink of suicide, I think that I can honestly say a decision like this, is not one that has been idlly thought out or concluded without a great deal of soul-searching.

It is a very sad thing to think that someone is so miserable with life, that they consider that ending it is the only way to peace...that's why the event is so shocking to us - it goes against our very fibre as human beings, because it goes beyond all the instinctive safeguards that we have at our disposal to survive.

But who can tell the mind-state of a person experiencing such anxiety and sorrow?
Even I, who has had a fleeting affair with such notions, cannot begin to guess.

I echo Byker's concerns for the 8year old boy, I hope that he is well looked after and can come to terms with this tragic experience...eventually.

Res...

[jacquelyne]

Thats sad i know a few people who have done the same thing.It is very depressing.I have attemped it myself when i was younger because i didnt want to be here for reasons of my own and i did not let anyone know the way i was feeling because i thought that they would think i was just attention seeking.Did anyone know that he was so depressed or suicidal ? I doubt that it was from getting detention.That just might have been the breaking popint for him just the last thing that tipped him over the edge.What a waste of a life because things always get better in the end no matter how bad you feel at that one time.And goth if u feel too bad just talk to someone about it and try not to be alone thats the worst thing for me when im depressed and sad.