I am going to try to make THC Sex Lube

[bobelod]

I have been carrying on a discussion on another thread about the viability of THC lotions. I have had access to some extremely potent and incredibly cheap THC oil and have been performing experiments with lotions.

The idea is that it can be carried anywhere (like in you luggage for a long flight for example) without any suspicions being drawn, and can get you high in your hotel room without having to find a local source or have to shove an eighth down your pants and pray you make it through airport security :D

So far the results have been excellent, aside from the required excessive amounts of oil needed, it is an effective way to get stoned.

Typically application of 4 grams (doesn't sound like a lot but expect to apply liberally) lotion containing about 8% THC (almost pure with an extremely low level of lower cannabinoids and cannabinol) is an effective dose that comes on in about 10 minutes and lasts about 20 to 40 minutes.

The lotion is a mix of commercial applications and some ingredients of my own to help increase absorption. Hand sanitizer seems to be fairly effective, most likely due to the high content of Ethyl alcohol.

Either way my girlfriend enjoys the high she gets from the lotion and has requested that I make a Sex Lube containing the THC;
this is where we are at now.

I was thinking about using a glycerin based water lube (the thinking is that the glycerin would act as an emulsifier), or go with synthetics such as silicone. I am open to suggestions :thumbsup:

I would think that there shouldn't be any effects from the use of THC on sensitive parts of the body, but I haven't heard of anyone trying this beforehand so if anybody has any insight it would be greatly appreciated.

I am hoping the effect will be even more pronounced than the topical application of the current lotions since it is on an area that has much more blood flow and the epidermis is thinner, (much less than the .07 inches thick that it is found on the arms and legs).

So what do you guys think?
All suggestions and information are welcome and much appreciated! :D

[CheeseOnToast]

uhm. ok..............

[bobelod]

When you have easy access to oil of this quality and for this cheap it becomes easy to experiment.

Not to mention, it should be an extremely fun combo of two of mine and her favorite things. :thumbsup:

[WEsmokeED]

DUDE so this is like lotion? that gets you high? Or am i just completely lost?

[bobelod]

Yes, these are lotions that will get you high, oddly the high is very different from smoking and even injestion. Very spiritual, along with a very light feeling, as if you are about to start floating away.:hippy:

The idea was to have a new way to conceal my stash while traveling. After a short time passed my girfriend started using more lotion and stopped smoking and injests much less THC because she prefers the high from the lotions.

Recently she asked if I could also make a "special" sexual lube just for us, that is what I am working on now. :thumbsup:

[WEsmokeED]

ohhh i see, that sounds awesome.

So how does one make/aquire this said lotion? If you dont mind me asking

[bobelod]

First you either need to acquire or better yet make your own oil. Unconverted (no cannabidiol conversions), unfiltered oil is a good start, however you will need a considerable amount. Take the ratios listed in the first part of the post and multiply the oil content by a factor of at least five, and expect to apply at least twice as much, (about 8 grams), for any kind of high.

Unfortunately this will probably make for some very sticky lotion, but it's a good place to start. Another option would be to use less oil and simply apply more lotion to get the same dose.

A good first step in making the lotion is to start with a hand sanitizer that uses Ethyl alcohol as a catalyst. I would take the oil and mix it with pure ethanol and hemp seed oil (helps the mix and doesn't allow the hand sanitizer to dry your skin too much).

After mixing throughly apply a pre measured amount to your arms and legs, wait ten minutes and enjoy. Unfortunately this is not a cost effective way to get high,
(I'm an exception to the rule because I have the availability of extremely high quality oil for very cheap so need much less for the same effect and I can make it at low cost).

Anyway, the ultimate goal now is to make sexual lubricants that have a similar or hopefully even better effect with less dosage. :thumbsup:

[dankus maximus]

dude, thats pretty fuckin cool sounding i must say, its too bad pot isnt legal or you could sell it in stores, which would prolly make you a fair fuckin bit of cash...

[Veratyr Star]

Wow, very unique. Goodluck with this and keep us posted!

Hope it doesn't burn either of you down there.

[bobelod]

Yeah it is too bad, maybe it can be sold in Amsterdam :thumbsup:
I would offer up samples but I don't want to get this thread pulled by our Mods :D

I am pretty stoked to try this out, we will be doing "tests" on the new lube after I figure out how to get the oil to properly mix.

Speaking of which does anybody have any suggestions on how to get decent emulsification of the Oil and lubricants that doesn't involve any type of alcohol or other irritant base?

[weedmant]

that'll be the damn day!


Toke on til :jointsmile:

[c22boogie]

egg yolks are a good emulsifier...for food anyway

[bobelod]

Egg yolks might work, but they usually don't have much of a shelf life. I am about to try small scale mixing of oil and silicone, and oil with glycerin, hopefully one of them will work. :thumbsup:

Unless someone knows where to get some phospholipid lecithin, apparently the active emulsifier in egg yolks :D

[bobelod]

I couldn't get the THC Oil to mix directly with an off the shelf water based lubricant, however I was able to figure something out.

I just got done playing with blends of Crude Oil (didn't want to start with the high grade Oil until I got some preliminary tests done) and glycerin/water based lubricants. It seems cottonseed and canola oil blend in nicely with the lubricant, and the THC Oil blends in well with the canola and cottonseed. In the past I have found that the higher grade the THC Oil, the better it is at mixing, I would imagine the same holds true for this

I have the different mixtures sitting after mixing thoroughly to see if they may separate with time.
This should be fun to test :thumbsup:

[THC Phantom]

That will make her really wanna smoke your pole ;)

[Kid Dynamite]

I think this is a damn good idea. To be honest i wouldn't be surprised if your cannabis lotion had medicinal benefits as well as getting you high.

:thumbsup:

[bobelod]

>>THC Phantom
He he, one can only hope!

>>Kid Dynamite
Actually the lotion seems to be very helpful when applied directly to areas of back and neck pain, (one of the primary reasons my girlfriend uses it so often) and we were pleasantly surprised to find such a nice side benifit.

I am unaware of any other ailments the lotion may be benificial for, but we will continue testing and possibly find other uses in time.:thumbsup:

[the image reaper]

it will glue your dick to the sofa ... :D

[bobelod]

Luckily the content of the lotion is low enough in THC Oil that it's not at all sticky, but I bet the raw stuff would be a real mess.... :D

[Mohksha]

this idea is fucking awesome! I want some. You should totally figure out a way to sell it!

[CoMfOrTaBlYnUmB420]

wow u r a fucking weed chemist my friend. your idea sounds great. keep us posted with you results

[LaZ]

This I found very original. Keep it up bobelod. THC sex lube: Have sex and get high at the same time... awesome.

[Orzy]

8 grams is a lot of weed.

[wacked]

Emu oil might mix up nice with the THC oil, as emu oil is also a natural anti-inflametry.

[bobelod]

It worked out, but it's unfortunate to see the thread moved

[IanCurtisWishlist]

I have been carrying on a discussion on another thread about the viability of THC lotions. I have had access to some extremely potent and incredibly cheap THC oil and have been performing experiments with lotions.

The idea is that it can be carried anywhere (like in you luggage for a long flight for example) without any suspicions being drawn, and can get you high in your hotel room without having to find a local source or have to shove an eighth down your pants and pray you make it through airport security :D

So far the results have been excellent, aside from the required excessive amounts of oil needed, it is an effective way to get stoned.

Typically application of 4 grams (doesn't sound like a lot but expect to apply liberally) lotion containing about 8% THC (almost pure with an extremely low level of lower cannabinoids and cannabinol) is an effective dose that comes on in about 10 minutes and lasts about 20 to 40 minutes.

The lotion is a mix of commercial applications and some ingredients of my own to help increase absorption. Hand sanitizer seems to be fairly effective, most likely due to the high content of Ethyl alcohol.

Either way my girlfriend enjoys the high she gets from the lotion and has requested that I make a Sex Lube containing the THC;
this is where we are at now.

I was thinking about using a glycerin based water lube (the thinking is that the glycerin would act as an emulsifier), or go with synthetics such as silicone. I am open to suggestions :thumbsup:

I would think that there shouldn't be any effects from the use of THC on sensitive parts of the body, but I haven't heard of anyone trying this beforehand so if anybody has any insight it would be greatly appreciated.

I am hoping the effect will be even more pronounced than the topical application of the current lotions since it is on an area that has much more blood flow and the epidermis is thinner, (much less than the .07 inches thick that it is found on the arms and legs).

So what do you guys think?
All suggestions and information are welcome and much appreciated! :D


As a pharmacy technician and a pharmacist-to-be, I think we should get together and compound this. You'd need a lipophilic base to compound with as THC is fat-soluable, I think what they use to make suppositories would be useful. (any pharmacists out there might scold me, i don't compound suppositories).

Sex lube is mostly glycerin, which is, if i am not mistaken, a sugar-based substance. On that note, back in the 60's I think one would use vegitable shortening as an anal-sex lube.... yeah?

It could be so easy to put THC into something which is undetectible. You know tootsie rolls were created by a pharmacist who mixed chocolate (i think?) in a suppository mold.

What you would want to do is get some hashish, keif, or cannabis bud. You would want to grind it up very finely (problem solved if you have kief), then get some grain alcohol or everclear. the higher the proof, the better. Mix a small amount with the kief and swirl it around in a beaker or graduated cylinder. The THC will form a solution with the ethanol in the alcohol. Filter the raw substance through a cheese cloth (to remove the nonpsychoactive parts such as kief pollen, bud residue, impurities etc) Store the solution in a dark place and let the alcohol evaporate. You will be left with (almost-pure) THC crystals, which you can compound into a lipophilic base (the ointment of your choice). Depending on how sophisticated of a method you use, you can make this as pure and as concentrated as you'd like!

Because the product is more pure than cannabis buds/leaves, It's better to use kief or hashish, I'd prefer kief because it dissolves in the alcohol easier as opposed to hashish.

what kind of lab equipment are you using??

[bobelod]

Actually I already start with some extremely high grade THC oil for making the lotions. This is a very clean extract (use of low boiling point solvents trapped under extreme pressure to maintain it in liquid form for extended periods of time as opposed to blow through systems that others use with butane and PVC or the like).

Basically the quality is excellent, but it doesn't stop there, after extraction the oil goes through chemical processes to convert nonpsychoactive cannabinoids to their more psychoactive counterparts. Then further conversions create VERY potent semi-biosynthetic cannabidiol's not entirely dissimilar from what naturally occurs in the plant (only much stronger).

Basically the finished oil is usually at least 8 times the potency of basic extracts (in the case of commercial extractions much more) :thumbsup:

Maybe we should talk more, what do you think the best delivery system would be?

It's funny that you mentioned suppositories, I am going to try and make one. I thought it would be funny to give to a friend that is hard up.:D

[sd6515]

It's funny that you mentioned suppositories, I am going to try and make one. I thought it would be funny to give to a friend that is hard up.

I think I would buy those for one of my friends who is always looking for a free high, see how bad he wanted it :D