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G man
01-25-2005, 11:10 PM
ok i am gettin piss of with plp comin in chat and talkin about porn its not the porn thats piss me of it the fact that plp are talkin about kids, am i the only one that gets piss of about this ???? something needs to be done about it, i dont know what maybe more mods i dont know but something....
Thanks for your time
G man
LilRedDevil
01-25-2005, 11:40 PM
Well I never go to chat/s for that reason! If I was in a chat a people talked about kids they would hear from me! I would also be a big fat rat and tell and admin, when it comes to children, it's no joke!
poorman3
01-25-2005, 11:47 PM
i don`t go to chat neither but that is some sick news to me. maybe if enough people complain about it the moderators will do something. where you at lulu?
kuulbns
01-26-2005, 12:49 AM
Problem is there are so many children IN chat. I think Lulu's been doing all she can lately. I would also get upset and will report anything I hear like that. Sorry this happened G it's usually pretty decent people here.
justanotheramerican
01-26-2005, 12:52 AM
I haven't come across anyone like that here so far...but if I do...well I guess I can't do much more than be pissed...But I'll be really pissed.
billie
01-26-2005, 04:11 AM
WTF?!?! i thought we all had something better to do.... like smoke weed. than to take advantage of children. i am so disappointed. "mommy..... please make the bad man stop"
Reefer Rogue
01-26-2005, 07:45 AM
what do u guys mean by talking about kids? i doubt there having a peodaphile meeting in chat. if you disaprove of whatever there saying then ask them politely to stop and if they continue just email lulu her emails in her profile.
ok i am gettin piss of with plp comin in chat and talkin about porn its not the porn thats piss me of it the fact that plp are talkin about kids, am i the only one that gets piss of about this ???? something needs to be done about it, i dont know what maybe more mods i dont know but something....
Thanks for your time
G man
You made this post at 11.10pm, I wasn't online last night and it's impossible to moderate chat 24/7 even if there were extra moderators. In future, as Reefer said, just email me
[email protected]
BTW - There are ignore options in chat too, incase someone's really winding you up - feel free to use them:)
GHoSToKeR
01-26-2005, 10:30 AM
There is an ignore option in chat, like Lulu said. You know what else you can do if somebody is saying something you dont like? DONT READ IT OR LEAVE! If theres something on the television that you find offensive, you change the channel. Just because this is the internet it doesnt mean you should try and get people into 'trouble' for saying something you dont like. Get over it.
juggalo420
01-26-2005, 12:05 PM
ok i am gettin piss of with plp comin in chat and talkin about porn its not the porn thats piss me of it the fact that plp are talkin about kids, am i the only one that gets piss of about this ???? something needs to be done about it, i dont know what maybe more mods i dont know but something....
Thanks for your time
G man
so wheres the porn then, i think your holding out :D
poorman3
01-26-2005, 01:10 PM
i think that anybody that talks about children in that manner should be banned. i also think that by ignoring it would only be condoning it. there is only one chat room. its not like you can change the channel. if it gets anybody in trouble thats just great and if they don`t like it the hell with em. they can get over it!
NowhereMan
01-26-2005, 01:15 PM
i may ask ron to re instate my mod statis if you think it would help
i do know this
being a mod takes alot of time and you cant be everywhere
seems they know when a mod aint there
ive enjoyed my time as a regular chatter and poster
guess that may be over
since ive been able to log on more lately i reckon i can go back to being one and slow that porn crap up some,
peace
ps
hey ron if ya think its needed,re do it,ive more time to do it now
slipnslide087
01-26-2005, 02:07 PM
what the fuck are you always pissed off about ghost. calm down man shit.
Looker
01-26-2005, 03:15 PM
NO FUCK THAT MAN...
I APPRECIATE YOUR FREE SPEECH IDEALS BUT IF THERE IS A PREDATOR IN THERE I KNOW IT MAY BE HARD TO DETERMINE BUT I WOULD DO MY BEST TO LOCATE ID OR TURN THAT FUCKER IN
AGONIZING SLOW PAY PER VIEW DEATH FOR ALL PEDOPHILES
GHoSToKeR
01-26-2005, 04:00 PM
splinslide im not pissed off about anything. Im just saying, we dont always agree with what people say, but they should still be allowed to say it. No matter what it is.
RESiNATE
01-26-2005, 04:10 PM
Obviously not had the experience of abuse then, GHoST - for which I am glad, by the way...wouldn't want to wish that on anyone.
However - there are limits to free-speech and expression.
Between adults...that's fine...but children are not equipped to defend themselves, and paedophilia is something that does NOT deserve any rights WHATSOEVER!!!
I haven't seen anything in the chat-room about this, and so can't comment...that said, if it IS going on, then it should be stopped, and the ones perpetrating such things should be banned -PERIOD.
GHoSToKeR
01-26-2005, 04:22 PM
I have to disagree, RES. There should NEVER be limtis to free-speech. Free-speech is NOT restricted free-speech.
If somebody feels the need to talk about paedophilia, then thats their right. If they are threatening somebody, saying they are going to act on their comments, or something similar, then they should be dealt with, but if they are only talking about paedophilia, racism, murder, rape, potatoes, jam, etc, then they have the right to talk about it. If they believe that paedophilia is okay, then thats their opinion - they shouldnt be banned for expressing their opinion, no matter how disgusting we may think it is. THATS what freedom of speech is. I may disagree with alot of things said by certain people's opinions on this site, but I would never ask for them to be banned for expressing those opinions. Its as simple as that.
To be honest, if I had it my way, EVERYBODY would agree that things like paedophilia are unnacceptable, but unfortunately not everybody feels the same as you or I. If we start calling for people to be banned because they were discussing a taboo ubject, then where do we draw the line? Do we have to close down this site, because some people feel that smoking Cannabis and talking about it is immoral? Do we ban talking about driving, because some people feel that polluting the earth with cars is wrong? Do we ban all religious jokes, incase we offend somebody? Do we ban jokes about any particular sex/race//sexual preference, in case somebody somewhere gets offended? No, we dont. Because we live in a relatively free country, and we have the right to express our opinions - no matter who agrees or who disagrees. Damn, if we're going down this route, then why not ban all racist websites? The KKK have their own website, why not get that shutdown?
Now if somebody is actually stating that they engage in paedophilia, or similar, then they should be dealt with - on this, I agree. But people talk about things.. Is something we have to deal with. If you dont like it, then you dont listen.
maryjanemama
01-26-2005, 04:38 PM
As far as mods go, EVERYTIME I log into the site, it seems that Lulu is in chat, so I'd say she's pretty much spread out as far as she can be. She does have her life to live. :rolleyes: I agree that there should be more mods, only because the ones we have are doing as much as they can. This being a free site, there are always going to be ppl who need to be dealt with for not behaving themselves like adults. The number of members is constantly growing and so should the number of mods just to keep up.
dog420
01-26-2005, 06:34 PM
Wheres hunny when ya need her.........? is she even a mod still? lol
Peace
(come back hun,,,we need your help)
poorman3
01-26-2005, 06:50 PM
ghostoker, i must say, your one sick kid. i bet your sitting back smoking a big fat joint laughing your ass off. i guess you like pushing peoples buttons to the point where they come back and try to tell you different. then you sit back and smoke another one just laughing like hell, waiting for someone else to reply to your bullshit. people like you are the reason this place needs moderators. your no different than a scammer stealing money from sick people and kids. your playing with peoples emotions and fears when you say such stuff. did you ever consider that some of these folks might have kids that have been abused or even raped and killed by someone that starts out talking about things of that nature in a chat room then lures them to some hotel room where they rape and kill the kid? laugh it up ghost. smoke another one. push some more buttons. you just be glad i`m not a moderator. i would ban you right now! GROW UP KID!
Reefer Rogue
01-26-2005, 06:54 PM
i know ghost can defend himself but i dont think hes condoning peodophilia, hes just standing up for free speech and i dont think hes trying to push any buttons or piss anyone off.
billie
01-26-2005, 06:59 PM
yikes, what a volitile subject. i'm sure emotions run deep, but here is my 2 cents.
when those objectional issues arise, please let us remember that making someone a victim, regardless of age (but especially children), is wrong and should be avoided if possible. we are here to share and relate. i enjoy getting to know the people on this site and hope that we can all be adults and control our urges to take advantage of kids.... at least adults are better equipped to handle the mental anguish of abuse. let's give the kids a chance to grow up before we start in on the negative treatment toward them... what do you think? can we all just get along?
Pass The Rizla
01-26-2005, 07:01 PM
*agrees with Reefer Rouge*
LilRedDevil
01-26-2005, 08:40 PM
My 2 cents, I think the Mods here do a great job! Like Lulu said you can not be a Mod 24/7, I am agree with freedom of speach too, but when it comes to some fucked up asswipe talking about kids in a sexual manner, I feel it's way over the line!
Understand we have some sick, sick people in the world! If you ever see that in chat again just report it and tell the perv to fuck off!
jacquelyne
01-26-2005, 11:52 PM
Talking about kids in any way sick is just not on i fucking hate those kinda weirdos.
NowhereMan
01-27-2005, 12:00 AM
My 2 cents, I think the Mods here do a great job! Like Lulu said you can not be a Mod 24/7, I am agree with freedom of speach too, but when it comes to some fucked up asswipe talking about kids in a sexual manner, I feel it's way over the line!
Understand we have some sick, sick people in the world! If you ever see that in chat again just report it and tell the perv to fuck off!
amen
to that
Sensi Super Skunk
01-27-2005, 12:06 AM
Hell yeah reinstate NowhereMan. I miss the no bullshit Moderator you were.
The C
01-27-2005, 02:31 AM
I think pedophilia is sick. But remember free speech. If somone is being a predator in anyway, it's an attack.
I'm a beleive in free speech, and that it holds no bounds (as long as it doesnt infringe on anyone esles rights). I also believe that banning (or poo pooing) on group of people, even if the group is in need of help, or not, is an attack on people. And an attack on a brother/cusin of mine, is an attack on me. Were all connected here, were all humans. Lets try to understand issues. If someone is being a predator, thats a completely different issue.
Dont' become the predator yourself, lets try to understand, or help these people. Otherwise your the only one attacking anyone.
I'm not saying i know the answer to this. I'm just giving my 2 cents. I really wish these chats that are apprently happening don't happen anymore. Mabe those people chatting should be banned. I wasnt avaiable in the chat to see this. It's a completely new issue if the pedophiles are chatting with kids. Thats somethign completely different.
GHoSToKeR
01-27-2005, 03:28 AM
i know ghost can defend himself but i dont think hes condoning peodophilia, hes just standing up for free speech and i dont think hes trying to push any buttons or piss anyone off.you got it in one, man! Im not trying to piss anyone off, and even if I was, so what? Freedom of speech. lol
Poorman3, Im gonna ignroe those insults - not because I think im the 'bigger man', but because I dont care.. Insult me all you want.
Look, im not condoning paedophilia!! Why the fuck would I do that? Seriously? Even the thought of paedophilia makes me physically sick. I hate it, I hate people talking about it, I hate people joking about it.
But, (and yes, theres definately a but) it's not my job to decide what people should be allowed to talk about, and its definately not yours. Sure, the mods can ban whoever the fuck they want, its their job. But its also our jobs to express our opinions, as this is a message board, and thats what message boards are for.
So, heres my opinion. Paedophilia is the lowest of the low. I hate it. But I also hate arrogant fucks like you, poorman3, who think that their word is final. Just because you dont like somebody talking about something, doesnt mean they shouldnt be allowed to talk about it. People are free to talk about whatever the fuck they want.. Thats the society we live in. You cant have Restricted Freedom Of Speech; it would never work.
"your no different than a scammer stealing money from sick people and kids."
That confused me. It makes no sense. Im not taking advantage of anybody. If you feel that im in someway taking advantage of you, then thats your problem, not mine.
Now, back to paedophilia.
When I was in Primary School (the equivelant of Junior High, I think) there was a substitute teacheer that used to occasionally work at my school when a teacher was away. I remember him being a nice guy, even though I was really young. He's the kind of teacher that everyone liked - he used to take us out to all sorts of places, when we should have been at school doing work, you know? So as far as I remember, he was a normal guy, if not unusally friendly for a teacher.
Anyway, I have three nephews and four neices, all in their early teens or younger. One of my nephews and one of my neices both went to the same primary school that I went to (i'm not going to mention the name, az666 might know what im talking about, though...), and this substitute teacher still worked there when my nephew and neice went there. He also worked at a number of schools all over the island (also at the school my other neice was going to). Then, one day, I see his face in the local paper. The report says hes being arrested for having 'indecent images and videos of his students on his personal computer'. It turned out, that while fixing his computer, somebody found thousands and thousands of indecent photos of young children on his computer, and thousands of videos and images of students that he has taught in this island. Automatically, I thought of my two nephews and neices. Had he done anything to them? Had he taken photos of them, or videoed them? My first instinct was to go out, find him (it would take 5 minutes) and kill him. Seriously, I didnt even know if he had even taught my nephew or neice, only that he worked in the same school, but I felt physically sick to my stomach, and wouldnt to find him and tear his throat out.
And now you, poorman3, are saying that im condoning paedophilia? Youre saying that I am 'laughing my ass off'? That im "no different than a scammer stealing money from sick people and kids"????? You better be high, because nobody can be that fucking stupid on their own.
Anyway, im babbling. Back to my original point. Freedom of speech is freedom of speech, whether we all agree or not.
Cannabis.com
01-27-2005, 05:01 AM
Chat sessions often get into personal topics, such as gossip, sex, etc - that's just the nature of chat most everywhere.
There is more than one chat room on the CANNABIS.COM Chat - folks seeking more focused discussion should try using one of the other rooms listed in the room list.
While some moderation is definitely helpful, and of course appreciated, in the chat, the focus of moderation is intended to be here on the message boards; another mod or two will likely join in the near future.
Adding more mods just to cover chat won't change much there - more likely to result in flame/ban wars ... there's no way to 100% control a chat, especially when folks can't collectively agree what is acceptable and what isn't...
Often it's best to just ignore discussion one doesn't agree with, etc in a chat unless it's creating problems for other chatters, such as flooding the chat, writing overt violent threats, etc.
Lastly, I realize this is not the answer some folks want to hear, but that's just the way chat is ... for folks seeking a more focused chat, please try using one of the rooms in the chat room list; cafe members only chat is coming soon.
Ron
poorman3
01-27-2005, 03:02 PM
ghost, thanks for ignoring me. you done a great job! at least i know where you stand on the issue of free speech when it come to sicko`s and their paedophilia.
i just hope and pray that no kid here gets lured away by one of those sicko bastards while your defending his free speech. peace.
to ron, i`m glad your aware of whats been going on. thanks for your input. although like you said its not the answer i wanted to hear. thats one of the reason i don`t use a chat room. there are some real perverts out there and people to defend their " free speech".peace.
to any kid out there, beware of sickos using chat rooms to fulfill their sick desires. peace.
dog420
01-27-2005, 05:01 PM
Chat sessions often get into personal topics, such as gossip, sex, etc - that's just the nature of chat most everywhere.
There is more than one chat room on the CANNABIS.COM Chat - folks seeking more focused discussion should try using one of the other rooms listed in the room list.
While some moderation is definitely helpful, and of course appreciated, in the chat, the focus of moderation is intended to be here on the message boards; another mod or two will likely join in the near future.
Adding more mods just to cover chat won't change much there - more likely to result in flame/ban wars ... there's no way to 100% control a chat, especially when folks can't collectively agree what is acceptable and what isn't...
Often it's best to just ignore discussion one doesn't agree with, etc in a chat unless it's creating problems for other chatters, such as flooding the chat, writing overt violent threats, etc.
Lastly, I realize this is not the answer some folks want to hear, but that's just the way chat is ... for folks seeking a more focused chat, please try using one of the rooms in the chat room list; cafe members only chat is coming soon.
Ron
Put it in that prospective and i suppose theres not much we can do....make everyone a mod? lmao well chat rooms will be chat rooms....
Peace
oh and G m8 STOP moaning and go put the kettle on ;) :p
maryjanemama
01-27-2005, 05:08 PM
Put it in that prospective and i suppose theres not much we can do....make everyone a mod? lmao well chat rooms will be chat rooms....
Peace
oh and G m8 STOP moaning and go put the kettle on ;) :p
I have to say I'm disappointed with the decision as well but am still hoping for more mods on boards, at least. Ok, dog, I'll stop whining, too! :)
GHoSToKeR
01-27-2005, 06:30 PM
Fuck it, why dont the mods stop us all having any opinion at all in case we offend someone? Or why dont they just ban conversations in general? Seems like the best way to go. That way, nobody gets offended
jones2much
01-27-2005, 08:10 PM
Fuck it, why dont the mods stop us all having any opinion at all in case we offend someone? Or why dont they just ban conversations in general? Seems like the best way to go. That way, nobody gets offended :D :D i agree with that, but only to an extent.....peace :D :D :D
LilRedDevil
01-27-2005, 10:01 PM
Fuck it, why dont the mods stop us all having any opinion at all in case we offend someone? Or why dont they just ban conversations in general? Seems like the best way to go. That way, nobody gets offended
I respect your ideas and thoughts, I just don't agree, I mean fuck anyone who abuses children! It's sick and fucked up! And people who just turn their backs to shit like that help make it possible! :mad: I am one who thinks Ron's answer was not enough! Too bad for me, but it would not stop me from flaming the fucker! Would I get banned for flaming some child preditor :confused:
az666
01-27-2005, 10:28 PM
firstly i agree with EVERYONE who has posted so far Pedophillia is SICK......but (once again with the buts) ill have to agree and disagree with ghost on this one. I beleive in freedom of speech...but there is a place to talk about pedophilia and i guess thats on one of those sites....its not the sort of thing i would expect to be talked about on a site dedicated to weed.....but i think sum peepes should try some empathy out cause (i know what im gunna say is gunna piss sum peeps off but hey...)....shit they cant help it can they!? Its like some people hate gays and wanna kill them and shit cause they think it is the most fucked up thing in the world....i imagine some pedo's think gays are the scum of the earth......but they cant help it.....i know there is a massive difference between a gay person and a pedo and i mean MASSIVE but....as i said its just the way they are and i think pedo's should get the help they need before they go and get themselves arrested and fuck some helpless kids headup forever.............i hope people understand the point i'm trying to make.......and i just remembered the title of this thread "this is not a porn site" i tottaly agree but hey i think everyones allowed to talk about what they want to aslong as you dont push it on others..... .... ... .. . :S i hope this makes sense (im slightly intoxicated and was trying to think of all this stuff in my head at once)
poorman3
01-27-2005, 10:32 PM
Would I get banned for flaming some child preditor :confused:
LilRedDevil, i don`t think you would get banned, if you did it would be worth it!
Cannabis.com
01-28-2005, 12:29 AM
If there's a pedophile in the chat causing problems, please report the username(s) to the mods.
Flaming a "problem" chatter will only encourage them to cause more problems; re-register, etc.
As some others already mentioned in this thread, ignore and report is a better approach than confrontation.
Ron
the garden guy
01-28-2005, 12:35 AM
I WAS ASKED TO MENTION THAT
DELS COMPUTER CRASHED SO HE WILL BE OFF LINE UNTIL NEXT WEEK!!!! :D
ineedskillz
01-28-2005, 01:02 AM
OMG!.. I havnt posted here in a bit and after reading this I am glad..
As for freedom of speach.. Anybody that prey's on inocent children have no rights..
All pedofiles should be executed.. These people are the lowest forms of life and should be treated as so.. And for the countrys that don't support capital punishment..When they go to prision put the animals in general pop... Any who's done time knows what would happen...
GHoSToKeR
01-28-2005, 01:47 AM
We're not talking about actual paedophiles, we're talking about people who were discussing paedophilia.. Arent we!?....... In my opinion, paedophiles should be locked up indefinately, but I dont think people should get in trouble for talking about it. PLEASE say thats all they were doing.........................
LilRedDevil
01-28-2005, 04:50 AM
We're not talking about actual paedophiles, we're talking about people who were discussing paedophilia.. Arent we!?....... In my opinion, paedophiles should be locked up indefinately, but I dont think people should get in trouble for talking about it. PLEASE say thats all they were doing.........................
Okay I thought some "people" in chat were talking about children in a sexual manner! I may be wrong but that is how I took the starting post in this thread (Keep in ming I am almost always baked when I post here ~lol~
So that is what I was responding to, So basiclly I thought the chat was a bunch of pervs talking about kids! I now have no clue :confused: ...And as for the Mods, I have been a host/Mod of a few sites myself, I found it to be a real pain in the ass and just like being a member :D I hate to babysit!
hunny
01-28-2005, 09:22 PM
Wheres hunny when ya need her.........? is she even a mod still? lol
Peace
(come back hun,,,we need your help)
i am still mod here dog..the way things look u wouldnt think so ,,,also there are more mods than just me an lulu.......del an nalu,,,dont forget them ...an as for the porn issue ,,i have banned b4 on that topic an if i was in when the stuff had been said i wouldv banned on the spot.......the reason i aint in as often is because me an brix r spendin quality time together but i do pop in the boards an have a look every other day ,,,,,,,,,,speak to ya soon all that have missed me :p :cool:
poorman3
01-28-2005, 09:30 PM
hello hunny, i don`t think i`ve ever said that to you. i like your attitude.
I have to disagree, RES. There should NEVER be limtis to free-speech. Free-speech is NOT restricted free-speech.
If somebody feels the need to talk about paedophilia, then thats their right. If they are threatening somebody, saying they are going to act on their comments, or something similar, then they should be dealt with, but if they are only talking about paedophilia, racism, murder, rape, potatoes, jam, etc, then they have the right to talk about it. If they believe that paedophilia is okay, then thats their opinion - they shouldnt be banned for expressing their opinion, no matter how disgusting we may think it is. THATS what freedom of speech is. I may disagree with alot of things said by certain people's opinions on this site, but I would never ask for them to be banned for expressing those opinions. Its as simple as that.
To be honest, if I had it my way, EVERYBODY would agree that things like paedophilia are unnacceptable, but unfortunately not everybody feels the same as you or I. If we start calling for people to be banned because they were discussing a taboo ubject, then where do we draw the line? Do we have to close down this site, because some people feel that smoking Cannabis and talking about it is immoral? Do we ban talking about driving, because some people feel that polluting the earth with cars is wrong? Do we ban all religious jokes, incase we offend somebody? Do we ban jokes about any particular sex/race//sexual preference, in case somebody somewhere gets offended? No, we dont. Because we live in a relatively free country, and we have the right to express our opinions - no matter who agrees or who disagrees. Damn, if we're going down this route, then why not ban all racist websites? The KKK have their own website, why not get that shutdown?
Now if somebody is actually stating that they engage in paedophilia, or similar, then they should be dealt with - on this, I agree. But people talk about things.. Is something we have to deal with. If you dont like it, then you dont listen.
I get what you're saying, But why would these sick bastards come to a chill chatroom about WEED to talk about their sick fetish. Come to terms with this Ghost Free speech is Limited. Band those bastards.
hunny
02-01-2005, 09:19 PM
hey poorman....nope i aint spoke to u b4.......have ya been in chat b4?? i aint on as much but do visit here most days to read boards an go in chat for a blether with m8s....
Darkneon420
02-01-2005, 09:37 PM
That is sick......I mean really sick! :D But as the Peace Witch i shall not use hate! I agree with Ghostoker! He is aboslutlly correct! If one hears something they know is wrong you either say nothing or excuse yourself!
Thankz to Lulu for doing the best she can! We love you and your a great Mod! ;)
Encatuse
02-02-2005, 12:32 AM
AGONIZING SLOW PAY PER VIEW DEATH FOR ALL PEDOPHILES
Couldn't agree more. Accept I don't know if it has to be agonizing and slow. I just think we send in the kid's parent, let em rip the fucker's dick off and shoot em in the head. Or at least let the kid's parents inject the poison. I know I'd want to.
Same for rapists. Sadly, some bitches lie. And it would cause alotta innocent people to die.
Encatuse
02-02-2005, 12:35 AM
we dont always agree with what people say, but they should still be allowed to say it. No matter what it is.
Yeah. Like 'Fire' in a movia theatre, 'Bomb' in a plane, and 'I killed her' in the police station.
I fucking hate people who want that much freedom. Don't be so idealistic man. There are too many shitty people alive for real anarchy. Listen man, they aren't trying to stop people from getting offended, they're trying to stop people from getting hurt.
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