i need help to identify this problem

[cesarhorta]

i don´t know for sure what´s happen with these plants. i think i burn a little with ferts, or is this sign´s of overwatering. please help.
p.s. i water them every 4 days

[Weedhound]

Revised: The Complete Guide To Sick Plants,pH and Pest Troubles - PlanetGanja.com (http://www.planetganja.com/highsociety/showthread.php?t=8778)

I'd start very first by checking your soil ph....

[whatsthatsmell]

when you are watering, do you just add water to the plant or do you flush the plant? It looks like a pH thing to me, if it was nute's you would see the tips of the fan leaf curl'd down and brown/dried..... there are couple of testers out there that will let you test the pH of your soil and see what nute's you have there as well. If you havent flushed your plants, i would do that right away...

[Ganja Guerrilla]

you have a calcium & nitrogen def

complete a soil runoff PH test.......
with PH corrected water (6.5-6.8PH ) pour enough water in the pots so the water runs out the bottom of the pot ...collect & test the PH of this runoff water....

If the PH reading is out of optimum range 6.5-6.8 PH, you need to flush your plant.
Flush with PH corrected water, till in optimum PH range, 3 times the volume of the pots is the rule of thumb but may require much more flushing if the rootball is thick & sour
EG: 1 gal pot = 3 gal. flush

add 1/2 strength nutes to the last gallon of the flush.

[stinkyattic]

^^^^ Right on.
N= you can see the paleness of the leaves.
Ca= you can see the wide band of necrosis along the leaf margins.
Flushing will help you. Be certain that your nutes contain secondary compounds, not just NPK.

[cesarhorta]

i flush them, but i dont want to flush that much because im afraid to overwater. the pots stay very heavy. i use ferts with all compounds and NPK 6-5-6.

[whatsthatsmell]

someone can correct me if i am wrong, but flushing every couple weeks is a good thing and you should do it right away, you will see a difference (personal experience on that one) and then add a nute solution (just like stinky mentioned) that has secondary nutes, you can see the secondary nutes on the box of fert that you use.

[PharmaCan]

i flush them, but i dont want to flush that much because im afraid to overwater. the pots stay very heavy. i use ferts with all compounds and NPK 6-5-6.

At this point, it's a little more important what the plants want than it is what you want!

PC :pimp:

[cesarhorta]

ok so i flush the plants and the pots stay very heavy. now i am pray to not overwater them.
my soil have little drainage and holds more water and my fear is because of that. right now i use tap water with ph 6.8, and soil ph is 7.0, i think this is fine. i put them in 12 hour dark period with one fan blowing on them.

[whatsthatsmell]

cannabis likes/needs airy medium, if your having drainage issues you could be in the risk of root rot as well, keep that in mind, you might have to either drill some holes in the medium or if you have a cap on the bottom of the pot that holds water to take it off and let the water drain, even if it is a very very slow drain.

[cesarhorta]

thank´s for you´re tip whatsthatsmell. i have 4 to 6 holes at bottom of the pots and i take the cap at the bottom of the pots. when you say drill some holes in the medium, you mean the medium of the pot or in the bottom medium?

[whatsthatsmell]

you can drill some holes in the pots towards the bottom, but depending on how slow your drainage is, you might want to drill some more higher up as well, dont go to deep to hit the roots, you just want to drill holes in the plastic. Then go get some chinese take-out, grab some chop sticks. use one chop stick to poke some holes into your medium, being careful not to kill your roots, this will help get some air into the root system and also help with the drainage. You dont want your medium to hard like the ground around your house, when you do the flush, seeing some air bubbles coming up is a good sign.....

Hope that helps

[cesarhorta]

ok now i understand, i have to drill some holes in the medium(soil). my medium is not hard is soft but hold the water very well and have normal drainage. but seems to me that holds more than drain out. tomorow i see how the babies are, and i wait till the soil dry to make another flush with more holes at bottom and make some holes in the medium. later i tell if work. thankz whatsthatsmell.

[cesarhorta]

i flush them 2 days ago and they get worse, what i have too do more, flush again? or not water at all? please help.

[stinkyattic]

Did you give a dilute solution of nutrients with the last flush?
You can foliar feed in the meantime.

[cesarhorta]

no i just flush them with tap water, here some pictures.
i can foliar feed with nuts half strenght? or less?
today i discover some larvae from withefly and spray them with insecticide. could this be the problem?
p.s. the pots are very heavy with the flush thing. some of the bud leaves start to have the same problem curl down and burn tips yellow leaves and some dark brown. only the top leaves point upwards the rest of the fan leaves curled down

[cesarhorta]

can anybody help me here?

[PharmaCan]

Drill some more holes in your pots right now, they aren't draining. To start with go about 1cm up from the bottom of the pot and drill a 1cm hole. Do this 6-8 times around the bottom of the pot. (Next time you grow, mix about 30% vermiculite in with your soil.)

Are you adjusting the pH of your water before you put it into the pot?

PC :smokin:

[cesarhorta]

i dont need to adjust the ph of the water, the ph of my tap water is 6.8, i read in some book the correct ph of water should be 6.5 to 7.0, is this right?
im go to make some more holes in pots, is just this ones that give me problems the others plants are just fine. i think that maybe they have some kind of lock up nuts, what did you think? they not lost any smell, and if was overwater they smell kinda rot, so this is out. this is because my friend told me that i overwater this ones, but i think that is not the problem.
P.S. any tips welcome.

[cesarhorta]

here today photos from them. the last one is the less damaged but the other two got me more problems and disease plants atract more insects. what should i do? they smell good but the leaf problem make me fear. i dont want to lost them at this point of flowering. i have this problem once with two plants, and one live and give me great compact buds(she recovery very well) but the other die in front of my eyes(in the 4 week flowering).
please HELP!

[whatsthatsmell]

what is the pH of your run-off water? It looks like there is some pH issues and also some micro nute issues as well. Your leaf turns up is an indication of Mg def, and your older leaf being burn is an indication of N, and Zn, so when you test your run-off water for pH, make sure your last one placed in the medium has the mircro nutes as well...

if your in week 4 of flower are you adding any bloom boosters or anything??

[cesarhorta]

no i dont give any bloom boosters in week 4 of flower, but this ones dont have 4 week of flower, maybe almost 3 week. right now i give water with nuts NPK 6.5.6. and micro nutes as well. right now i stop with ferts to see how they react.
p.s. i fert them only once per week with nutes half strenght.
the runn-off water have the pH 7.0. is this high?
my fert have macros NPK 6.5.6., micros is Boron(B), Copper (Cu), Iron (Fe), Manganese (Mn), Molybdenum(mo), Zinc(Zn), Magnesium(Mg) and Guano. i use this nutes in the past 2 years and get wonderfull results. i just dont know what happen with these 3 plants the rest of my plants are very good healthy.

[whatsthatsmell]

your not in the ideal range of pH for your soil, try and get that down to 6.5 - 6.8. your also in the 3rd week of flower so your plants NEED nutes, i think your nutes are not enough, but you can test for that, there are some test kits out there to find out what your nutes are in your medium. One other thing, i was looking at your pics, do you have more than one plant in per pot or are they "topped". I'm wondering if you are short on the pot and you might also be root bound. This will result in your plants not getting the water and nutes they need.

[cesarhorta]

yes i have one pot with two plants, but the pot is large enough to support them roots. i think i discover whats going on, they dont get enough air in soil, so i take some soil in top pot and i make some holes in medium pot with chop stick, and today i foliar feed them with nutes half strenght and tomorow i water them with more nutes. maybe almost full strenght, is that OK?
i already flush them but they dont change much, instead they get worse. so maybe the problem is lack of nutes, like you say so. i update this thread.

[whatsthatsmell]

if you have been watering with half nutes while in flower, then yes, you need to get them some nutes, get some room for those roots to grow. The biggest problem your gonna have with 2 plants per pot is that they will not get the amount of water/nutes they need, and i think your bud will not be as good as it could if they were in pots by themselves. always keep in mind that you want 1:1 ratio for your plants when you put them in pots. so if your plant will end of being 5 foot tall, you need a 5 gallon pot, now if you have two plants per pot (not recommended) that will be 5 foot tall you will need at least a 10 gallon pot but again if your doing that your plants will not get the nutes they need as they get older.

[cesarhorta]

i have all my babies one per pot, except for that one i put two. now i realize i make a mistake but i dont want to transplant them, because they are in week 3 of flower and i dont want to stress them right now, but i check the soil and they have plenty of space to grow roots. i dont make this mistake again for sure. rule of thumb 1 plant per pot, i know. thank for all your help whatsthatsmell.

[whatsthatsmell]

no problems, good luck on your grow :jointsmile:

[cesarhorta]

here udate. two of them are recovery but the other one is get worst every day, i dont no what i have to do more. i think with the flush i made a big mistake or not. i been do foliar feeding and dont water them 4 days now but the soil is still humid. what should i do more? in the first pic, the one from right is get worse every day, the one from left is recover, they are in the same pot. the second pic she get better, and the last pic she have the same problem as you can see. i need HELP.

[Chronisseur]

Whats your medium? It looks as if you're using straight compost w no pearlite or vermiculite? I would say thats your problem! Even with those holes in the bottom of your pots, it doesnt mean it's gettin proper drainage. I'd bet the bottom of your pots are clogged w mud and old rootmass.

[the image reaper]

Whats your medium? It looks as if you're using straight compost w no pearlite or vermiculite? I would say thats your problem! Even with those holes in the bottom of your pots, it doesnt mean it's gettin proper drainage. I'd bet the bottom of your pots are clogged w mud and old rootmass.

I'd agree, if soil is still moist after 4 days, you're not draining well ... think you're on to something there ... the damp soil would also account for the yellowing of the leaves ... :jointsmile:

[cesarhorta]

yes it can be the problem, the soil is not all wet, maybe half is still moist. what can i do stop with foliar feeding? wait for the soil is complete dry and then water? right now i stop water and put one fan blowing the girls, is this help? next time i gonna use perlite in the soil. i just dont want to loose them, what can i do?

[cesarhorta]

so who can explain this? they are in same pot, but one is recover the other is like you see getting worse. the soil is almost totally dry, i dont water them for the last 6 days. as you can see in my first post they are a lot better before the flush, than after the flush. big mistake. i stop with foliar fedding and water, and one is get better but the other is get worst, what can i do? here the last photo take today. almost all the fan leaves drop and i cut dead material from the one in right. i need advice.

[Weedhound]

You need to check the ph of your soil runoff.

[Chronisseur]

Okay, this is advice, ...noob to noob!:D
1.)What I would is tip those pots on their sides and VERY GENTLY slide the soil/rootball out of the pot.
2.)VERY CAREFULLY as not to disturb roots too much,remove as much "loose" soil as possible. (Paying a GREAT deal of attention to safety of roots, also in fairly dark area)
3.)Mix a 50/50 pearlite new compost.
4.)Refill pot with about 6'' (or more if neccesary) of new mix.
5.)CAREFULLY reset plant back into pot in new soil, making sure roots are optimally arranged.
6.)Fill sides of bare rootball, bringing the base of your plant up to the rim of pot.
7.)Add 1-2 drops of superthrive to straight water and run full gallon through.
8.)Following day, take a pH runoff test, should be between 6.1-6.9 if I recall correctly.
9.)Start back on reletive nutes. (Obviously small dose)
10.)Hope to hell I wasnt too high when I wrote this advice!

SHOULD get you headed in the right direction:thumbsup:
I am also kinda hopin' to get some feedback myself on this advice from some of our more experienced cultivators!

[stinkyattic]

With a flowering plant, or one that you are about to put into flower, I wouldn't try to remove any of the soil on the root ball.
pH should be 6.5-6.8
Small dose nutes for the first watering, then back up to normal.
Other than that, you're all set.
Chat?

[cesarhorta]

how can i do to chat with you stinky?

[cesarhorta]

so i doing the things that have to be done, stinky? the pots today loose much weight and they are almost complete dry, i think water them tomorrow with plain water or add 1/4 or 1/2strenght nutes? what you think stinky? is this problem affect my weed potency? the babies kinda slow growth in last week because of this.

[cesarhorta]

At this point, it's a little more important what the plants want than it is what you want!

PC :pimp:

i am a newbie but i know a few things.
1- a soil flush is a last resort "time to save our dying plant". my plants is not dying.
2-you only resort to a soil flush when all else has failed. i do not try everything before the flush.
3-so in this case is a little more important try everything else and for last resort a soil flush.
4-a soil flush causes the plant a great deal of shock and should only be attempted as a last resort if your plant is dying and can not be cured by any other means.
now you understand why i dont want to flush it before try other things.

[stinkyattic]

Actually a soil flush is not just for a dying plant.
I flush my mothers every time I take cuttings from them. They live in small pots and I fertilize them aggressively, so a flush is necessary every once in a while, and doing it at regular intervals prevents problems with salt buildup. It's good for them!
I promise it is safer to flush your plants than to let them sit in poor soil.
The problem I see is that your soil does not drain well. That makes flushing harder, but you still need to do it, test the runoff pH, adjust your flush water to bring it within 6.5-6.8 if it is out, and then do a final flush with some fertilizer solution.

[cesarhorta]

i already make a flush 1 week ago, and i dont see any improvement in my plants, only see they get worse. but if they survive to that flush(it is sad to say but very few plants do survive such an emergency soil flush.the soil flush is, in its essence over-watering your plants to the point of removing most of the minerals and ingredients in the soil.) they now start to recover from the damage of soil flush?
other thing tomorow when i water this plants, should i add nuts to the water at 1/2 strenght or less? or give just plain water?

[Chronisseur]

LMAO! Good Luck with all that:thumbsup:

[cesarhorta]

thanks to all the people that try to help me, tomorow i post one photo with last update.

[cesarhorta]

here the result of the flush: in the first pic they recover from the flush(but she alot better before the flush) in the second pic the flush is killing her. and here in the third pic the plants before i make the flush. they look very different to me. almost all the people told me make the flush is better for the plants, now here the result for you to see. thanks.:mad:
so why i should do now another flush? and kill the other plant?
im thinking to cut that plant off, now is impossible to do anytingh to recover from over-watering from the flush.

[cesarhorta]

any expert to give advice?

[cesarhorta]

so now nobody want to help, thats okay i never, but never again folow any advice. i always make the things my own way and never this happen. for you guys is just flush and flush and i think i dont say flush. so here the results. from now on i just read my manuals and i advice you people to read this: cannabis the grow bible, jorge cervantes Marijuana Horticulture The IndoorOutdoor Medical Growers Bible, this guy here know what talk about and you(people who talks bad about him) are just jellous from jorge cervantes. his the man.

[whatsthatsmell]

WOW, people try and help you, give you advice, tell you how to save your plants, give you what the potential problems are and you not only dont agree and dont want to do what they say, but then you turn around and insult them.... interesting concept.... dont think it will work but hey, like i said and everyone else has said to you, your medium is bad, you need to flush it out, and since you dont want to do that..... all i can say is

good luck with your grow.

[cesarhorta]

maybe you dont understand, i make the flush 1 week ago and thats is the only mistake i made as you can see the pics before the flush and pics after the flush. other thing i dont insult anybody i just say i never follow any advice made by people who think if i dont make like they say, that is the problem. if i told you to jump from the golden state bridge, did you jump?
p.s. did you read all the posts? so if i was you before say anything i try to read and understand whats happen.

[Weedhound]

Cesar,

You have SEVERAL very good people giving you suggestions....to which you reply they are wrong...your drainage is fine, you don't need to give nutes, your pots are big enough. No wonder your plants won't get any better.....you don't listen to 75% of what you are told and then are angry that the other 25% of advice you DO take doesn't fix all the mistakes you made that you are now having to deal with.

Follow the advice you are given by people like Stinky Attic and Image Reaper.....that is IF you are really interested in learning how to marijuana correctly. And when I say listen......that means to ALL of it....not just the parts that sound ok to you.

[Ganja Guerrilla]

complete a soil runoff PH test.......
with PH corrected water (6.5-6.8PH ) pour enough water in the pots so the water runs out the bottom of the pot ...collect & test the PH of this runoff water....post both the watering going in the pots and the runoff ph


post the ph of the water you pour in the pots and the ph that comes out

[Weedhound]

Yep ph of soil runoff....I'd probably just transplant to bigger pots with better draining soil and I bet that would solve his problems.....and it's been said to hiim about 5 times so far.

[stinkyattic]

complete a soil runoff PH test.......
with PH corrected water (6.5-6.8PH ) pour enough water in the pots so the water runs out the bottom of the pot ...collect & test the PH of this runoff water....post both the watering going in the pots and the runoff ph
post the ph of the water you pour in the pots and the ph that comes out

See, there's yet ANOTHER member telling you the SAME thing. This is how to discover the origin of your problem.
That scorch did NOT come from flushing your plants- that's impossible. Scorch like that comes from 2 sources: Overfertilizing, and pH problems.
This thread is going to be 4 pages long of you just not doing the one thing you need to do. I'm tired of saying the same thing over and over. Let someone else tell you, maybe you will heed their warnings.

[the image reaper]

so now nobody want to help, thats okay i never, but never again folow any advice. i always make the things my own way and never this happen. for you guys is just flush and flush and i think i dont say flush. so here the results. from now on i just read my manuals and i advice you people to read this: cannabis the grow bible, jorge cervantes Marijuana Horticulture The IndoorOutdoor Medical Growers Bible, this guy here know what talk about and you(people who talks bad about him) are just jellous from jorge cervantes. his the man.

:D your stubborness is just plain DUMB ... lol ... some of us were growing pot while Jorge was still suckin' his Momma's tit, but you go for it, guy ! ... no more help from this grower, won't bother you again ... :D ... lock 'er up, stinky , lol :D

[stinkyattic]

lock 'er up, stinky , lol
Believe me, I was seriously considering it. Oh well.
PLEASE PH TEST YOUR RUNOFF!

please?

pretty please?

with sugar on top?

[whatsthatsmell]

WOW....its amazing, Stinky will help anyone and everyone, she does a great job (personal experience, she helped me bring my plants back from the brink of Lockout death) and i have read ALOT of her posts, not all 10k, but i would imagine close to about 3-4k of them, and it does take ALOT to get her to the point that she is now.... nice job ceaser.....

[Ganja Guerrilla]

transplanting into fresh soil wont really help, he'll do the same thing again....

the issue needs to be isolated with this individual

complete a soil runoff test, or let em die

[Chronisseur]

CesarHorta:...:wtf: Do not EVER expect me to offer a hand again. I am absolutely disgusted in your response to the people who have taken time, to tried and help you. If there was ANY 'bad' advice it was mine,(repotting in new soil) and you didnt follow it anyways, so honestly you dont owe me shit, but may think about an apology to the professional growers who have offered their assistance. I hope you can see how disrespectful your responses were, and make a valiant effort to improve your attitude.

And oh yeah, I've seen Jorges work, and would bet BIG BUCKS that MOST of the pros on this site would outgrow his quality AND quantity with ease!

[stinkyattic]

REpotting in fresh soil wasn't bad advice at all- but he needs to as GG said identify the source of the problem, or risk repeating it.

[the image reaper]

CesarHorta:...:wtf: Do not EVER expect me to offer a hand again. I am absolutely disgusted in your response to the people who have taken time, to tried and help you. If there was ANY 'bad' advice it was mine,(repotting in new soil) and you didn' follow it anyways, so honestly you dont owe me shit, but may think about an apology to the professional growers who have offered their assistance. I hope you can see how disrespectful your responses were, and make a valiant effort to improve your attitude.

And oh yeah, I've seen Jorge's work, and would bet BIG BUCKS that MOST of the pros on this site would outgrow his quality AND quantity with ease!

actually, I agree with your repotting idea, as good advice ... it usually changes the whole incorrect plant environment ... (I've gotten lucky after re-potting, when I was stumped about the reasons, things got better, and I never knew why :D) ... :jointsmile:

oops, I double-posted with Stinky again ... (I think she's trying to get close to this old fart) ... :S2:

[cesarhorta]

okay maybe i overeact a little and i sorry to the people who give me(good) advice and i follow again your advice of making a test runoff water ph, a test soil ph and test water ph, tomorow i post the results. but now i think just to say what i say you want to lock me, maybe is a bit over react. or i have to agree with everything that is say to me. you know the meaning of the word DEMOCRACY, since you live in the U.S.A.
before the flush they are better than now, and i know this is not from overfertilize, this to me is like more overwater from the flush and i told from the beginning that my soil in this pot is poor in drainage. another question: if it is because of the soil, why my other 9 plants are just fine? i use the same water,same soil and same ferts(maybe is just destiny). if they are a little small is because i want them small. or i have to make them big just because some people think they are small? i know why i want them small,OK.
i never want to insult anybody, but if someone think the hat fits them.
for the others thanks very much for the info, and for the help.:rastasmoke:

[stinkyattic]

No one is going to lock you, don't worry.
As for democracy in the States... lol... I wish it were that simple! I voted for the other guy... :D
The symptoms of overwatering are nothing more than droopy leaves and the possiblity of root rot, which I do not see on your plants. However, pH problems are more acute when the soil is wet.

[Weedhound]

Wow....Stinky never offered ME anything with or WITHOUT sugar on top.....:D

[cesarhorta]

Cesar,

You have SEVERAL very good people giving you suggestions....to which you reply they are wrong...your drainage is fine, you don't need to give nutes, your pots are big enough. No wonder your plants won't get any better.....you don't listen to 75% of what you are told and then are angry that the other 25% of advice you DO take doesn't fix all the mistakes you made that you are now having to deal with.

Follow the advice you are given by people like Stinky Attic and Image Reaper.....that is IF you are really interested in learning how to marijuana correctly. And when I say listen......that means to ALL of it....not just the parts that sound ok to you.

and i am really interested in learning more about marijuana, and i like to thank you(people) very much for the tips,info and advice. thank you weedhound for your advice.:rastasmoke:

[cesarhorta]

See, there's yet ANOTHER member telling you the SAME thing. This is how to discover the origin of your problem.
That scorch did NOT come from flushing your plants- that's impossible. Scorch like that comes from 2 sources: Overfertilizing, and pH problems.
This thread is going to be 4 pages long of you just not doing the one thing you need to do. I'm tired of saying the same thing over and over. Let someone else tell you, maybe you will heed their warnings.

tomorow i post the results of the water ph and runoff water ph, thanks for your advice and for your patient to me stinky.:rastasmoke:

[Weedhound]

If you follow Stinky, Reaper, Ganja and other good peoples suggestions Cesar you will learn to grow some NICE weed..:thumbsup: They are the best in my book....;)
Good luck. :)

[cesarhorta]

ok im very sorry and i ask apologies to everybody, i just figured out whats go wrong. is not ph problem, and is not because of flush( you are so right stinky), and is not from bad drainage, is just some soil i put in this pot that have slow nitrogen release i talk to the man in the store where i buy this soil and he told me that. but is just this plant(durban) that have so much nitrogen burn and lost some smell, the other plant(skunk n1) in same pot she is good and smell very good but now im afraid that something happen to her.
what can i do? by the way my water ph is 6.8 and runoff ph is 7.0 i think i make the test right. but right now i am happy because i figured out whats going on, what can i do to fix this? my mistake is not know that this soil have slow release nitrogen and i put some more nuts in my water in the early flowering.

[stinkyattic]

Ahh there you go. I think the reason you are not seeing any problems in your Skunk is that simply, Skunk is HARD to kill, or even piss off. Its tolerance of poor soil conditions is legendary.
Your pH is very close to where it should be. You could bring it just a hair lower, a very small amount of vinegar in your next watering- make your fertilizer solution about 6.5 to bring the soil and runoff down to the 6.5-6.8 range. But that was not your problem luckily.
One thing you can do is re-pot those plants into a BIG pot that has no added N in the soil. But it is up to you. First container grows are always a learning experience!!

[Weedhound]

Well Cesar, good job on finding out the problem. That's the way to do it as far as I'm concerned....just keep trying until you find it. Hope that fixes your issues. Good luck. :)

[cesarhorta]

thanks for the tip stinky, and im follow your tip, i do a re-pot with the skunk and sadly i have to cut the cola from the durban(i cut the durban 2 weeks early) and left some buds in the plant to mature(i hope). now i have one question: is that okay to smoke this cola? because of the overfert she lost some smell but actually she smell good durban, after all this can i expect some good smoke from it? i need to know, thank you.

[Weedhound]

It may give you a headache or something but that's about all. I've smoked some of my stuff that I didn't flush and that's the only problem I had with it. I'd smoke away if I were you......and take some aspirin if you need to. ;)

[cesarhorta]

:(here are that cola drying in the rigth side, on the left are some buds from mexican sativa.
i gonna give that cola 2 weeks to dry well and then cure them for more 1 month. and i hope that durban dont give too much headache.:hippy:
p.s. tomorow i post pic from the skunk nº1 for you people see it how she is. thanks very much for the help and wish good grows and smokes for everybody:rastasmoke:

[Chronisseur]

I'm glad to see everything worked out!:thumbsup:
Generally speaking, I'm a man of my word. However, in order to offset the premature bud, you may want to simply mix it up with some FULLY mature buds....Just an idea;)

[that stoner kid]

i would trasplant them to better soil and wate them a lil sooner than 4 days id water them atleast once a day

[Chronisseur]

i would trasplant them to better soil and wate them a lil sooner than 4 days id water them atleast once a day

Yeah. Sometimes I stick freshly clipped buds in good soil and they double, sometimes triple in weight and potency.:thumbsup:

[cesarhorta]

Yeah. Sometimes I stick freshly clipped buds in good soil and they double, sometimes triple in weight and potency.:thumbsup:

ah!ah!ah! you make me have a good laugh, i know im stoned, but that one is very good.