PDA

View Full Version : GDSstonerboy/ProGroWannabe Dual Grow Thread.



ProGroWannabe
09-08-2007, 01:05 AM
Alright everybody, here we go. GDSstonerboy, and myself are going to attempt a dual-grow log. Format may be a lil shaky, but we're gonna do our best to make this happen.

The idea of the dual-grow format came from another thread where GDS and myself realized we were both starting grows with C99 and PPP. Through later communication, we both learned we are running the same nutes, and beginning perpetual gardens. So, it just seemed natural that we do this as a dual-grow.

GDS and myself will discuss the format that we'll follow in this thread to hopefully keep it from becoming confusing.
Stay tuned!!!!!!

rhizome
09-08-2007, 04:15 AM
Kewl!!

Would it be to much to ask you both to keep track of environmental conditions, so we can look at how they affect pheno? It's rare to be able to compare the same genetics, nutes on a side by side basis.

Thanks!

ProGroWannabe
09-08-2007, 12:12 PM
Yeah that's what I thought too rhizome. This seemed like a rare opportunity to do a real head to head.

I guess I do need to state that this is in no way a competition between GDS and myself, just hoping to glean some good info and techniques for these two strains by two different growers.

Should be a good show!

GDS StonerBoy
09-08-2007, 12:57 PM
Yeah that's what I thought too rhizome. This seemed like a rare opportunity to do a real head to head.

I guess I do need to state that this is in no way a competition between GDS and myself, just hoping to glean some good info and techniques for these two strains by two different growers.

Should be a good show!

I agree with ProGro! This is no competition! This is just a fun way to compare pheno's in different enviroments. Nutes will be the same but i think growing methods will be different if i am correct?

I'll be growing out the seeds for 1 month in a drip system, then i'll take clones from the vegged plants to determine sex. Once sex is determined i'll be transferring clones into DIY bubblers. I'll be using a 1000 watt HPS for flowering and 2 flourescent shoplights for vegging. Nutes will be Earth juice grow, bloom and catalyst along with pk 13/14, until my Ionic nutes get here but i may just stick with the earth juice just for the hell of it.

I'm pretty sure our enviroments and temps will be different so we'll see how they do. Got my fingers crossed for some fems!!!

I ran into a few problems though with Rapid Rooters! The seeds were having trouble pushing out of them so i had to help a few make it through. I hope this didnt ruin them, i'll keep my fingers crossed for that as well!

ProGroWannabe
09-09-2007, 12:16 AM
Alright folks, we've agreed on the format! This is the way it's gonna be lined out. Updates on both grows will appear in the same post. This way, each time one looks at the thread, they will be able to see the current progress on both our grows without having to correlate them together.

I'm awaiting pics/info from GDS as I write this. I should be receiving them shortly. Once I do, I'll upload the first set of pics with all the outlining info to get this mothership off the ground.

ProGroWannabe
09-09-2007, 04:00 AM
Off and running...

Progro's room..a work in progress with MUCH more progress to come. The pic of the shelves shows the nutes I'll be running. Earth Juice Bloom, Microblast, and Catalyst. Along with PK 13-14 when the time comes. Beginning nute strength is 5mL Bloom--5mL Catalyst--10mL Microblast per gal. of water. This mix is fed once a day(rem. I'm in coco).

Three 400 watt HPS--yeah the old industrial kind--I got a deal on em, what can I say?
Sealed room--CO2 eventually.
Fan on the wall for stem improvement.
Door is usually open during lights on to help make up for the lack of CO2.
No A/C yet. Temps are ranging from 62F to 89F. A/C will be added to reduce the wild fluctuations and narrow the range.
The shelves on the left show some various strains that will not be included in the log, but will remain growing in the room. The shelves are probably self-explanatory, but I'm setting this perpetual up as a stadium type grow to allow for easier crop rotation.

ProGroWannabe
09-09-2007, 04:07 AM
GDS's strains and pics:
Top left two are C99, followed on the right by PPP, then the bottom two are Papaya(left) and Skunk#1 on the lower right,

ProGroWannabe
09-09-2007, 04:15 AM
ProGro's genetics.
On the left are ten C99 from Joey Weed stock purchased from Hemp Depot. On the right are my PPP clones. The originals were all grown out. The mum of these clones, is a clone itself, from the biggest growing plant I had from the original seeds, purchased from weedfarmer. I believe the genetics originally came form Dutch Passion---not sure though.

ProGroWannabe
09-09-2007, 04:34 AM
GDS's environmental specs:

Lighting: One 1000 watt hps for flowering
4 t12 lamps for vegging mothers, and 6 26 watt cfls for young seedlings.
Air: No ducts no ventilation, 2 oscillating fans, Home central air unit will keep the rooms temps where we want them. I also have an air purifier to help keep fresh air in the room.
Room size is 10ft x 10ft
Grow Technique: 1-8 site drip system and 5 dwc bubblers

Kind
09-13-2007, 02:57 PM
I'm tuned in! GDS, Great set-up dude! Can't wait to see these grows take off, I'm gonna have to post some budshots up of my grows now.

ProGroWannabe
09-15-2007, 03:24 AM
GDS should be along in another day or so with an update. As for me... I've installed the A/C unit. It is adequate, but barely. 5000 BTU just barely keeps up with 1200 watts of HPS when there's no other ventilation. I wanna keep a "sealed" room. That way when I add the CO2, things don't get complicated with ventilation timing.

Anyhow, GDS has the pics, and like I said, he'll be updating shortly. So stay tuned, we'll be right back after these messages--lol

GDS StonerBoy
09-18-2007, 01:00 AM
was forced to add a window A/C unit. Couldn't afford a portable,
so I boxed in the back of the unit to separate the warm air exhaust
from the cooler air coming out the front. The unit is rated for
5000 BTU. I find it barely adequate for 32 sq. ft with 1200 watts
of HPS. Remember, my ballasts are attached to my bulbs. If my
ballasts were remote mounted, the A/C would have a slightly easier
time maintaining the 80 degrees I'm shooting for.

The bushy plants are the ones that appear earlier in this thread.
They aren't going to be part of the grow log other than to provide
some pics till my C99 and PPP get big enough to become interesting.
The little guys are the C99 seedlings. My PPP clones aren't doing
as well as I'd hoped. I goofed when I took the top off the bottles
too early causing them to transpire pretty hard. Some will pull
through, I'm not sure about all of them though. So, in an effort to
make up for my goof, I built a little bubble cloner and added more
clones to it. I'm now trying to get it dialed in. I'll give pics of
those in a later update.

GDS StonerBoy
09-18-2007, 01:01 AM
asdf

GDS StonerBoy
09-18-2007, 01:10 AM
Ok after several problems with Rapid Rooters i started all over with new seedlings. Atm I have 3 PPP in the drip system and 1 C99 with them. Tomorrow i will be adding 2 more C99 to the drip. I just purchased new T12 daylight bulbs because the others seemed to be getting a little dimmer which they were compared to the new ones. Some of my seedlings were stretching a bit reaching for light but now that the new bulbs are in im sure they'll start normal growth. Room temps are at 73f and the water temps are at 75f.

As for the soil C99 and Papaya they are now under 5 26 watt 6500k cfls and one 26 watt 3000k cfl. They are looking real good right now although they are very short for a month. I'm beginning to wonder if im doing something wrong because i dont think soil should take this long to grow. After a months time the Papaya is only 5 inches and the C99 is just a little over 4. I'm thinking of raising the light though to increase stretching. If anyone has any suggestions on the problems i might be facing it'll be greatly appreciated.

GDS StonerBoy
09-18-2007, 02:07 AM
The first one is a pic of the C99 strecthing for light before the adjustmens were made today and the rest are pics of the PPP!

GDS StonerBoy
09-18-2007, 02:08 AM
The First pics are of the soil C99 and the others are of the Papaya!

PopaBean
09-18-2007, 03:21 AM
Great thread thanks for comparing...The results will be interesting!

Looking good already!!!:jointsmile:

One quick question, Progro..I have never seen a yellow seedling..Is that common for that strain? Anyone?

ProGroWannabe
09-18-2007, 11:53 AM
Popabean, that's actually GDS's PPP. And no, it's not really common for that strain as far as I know. Just the way it came into the world I guess.

Thanks for dropping by!

Kind
09-18-2007, 02:26 PM
Excellent looking plants GDS, that papaya looks so healthy!

You mentioned having slow growth w/ the soil c99 and papaya....

What size pots are they in? What kind of soil are you using?
4-5 inches in a month isn't right, you should have at least a foot, are your plants root bound?

GDS StonerBoy
09-18-2007, 03:00 PM
Excellent looking plants GDS, that papaya looks so healthy!

You mentioned having slow growth w/ the soil c99 and papaya....

What size pots are they in? What kind of soil are you using?
4-5 inches in a month isn't right, you should have at least a foot, are your plants root bound?

Both pots are 6 inches deep and 8 inches wide. I almost certain its not root bound it doesnt matter im gonna transplant in a bigger pot tomorrow morning. It wont hurt to try it i guess, its not like its progressing at right now anyway. It has some growth at the nodes but thats the only new growth i have been seeing for like the past 2 weeks.

Kind
09-18-2007, 03:24 PM
Hmmmmm.....

What kind of soil do you use? I have a friend thats growing White Russian in Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil needless to say he planted his germed seeds right into that soil and the plants grew slow as yours are,so he transplanted into a soil w/ little to no nutrients and the plants perked up and started growing at a much faster pace. The conclusion we came to was that the FF soil is to strong for seedling to be placed directly into, now I use a rapid rooter or rockwool to start my seeds, once they establish a good root system I transplant into the FFOF soil.

BigWeed
09-18-2007, 06:18 PM
Nice log Im in for the ride and some nice looking plants to and set ups.

GDS StonerBoy
09-18-2007, 11:36 PM
Hmmmmm.....

What kind of soil do you use? I have a friend thats growing White Russian in Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil needless to say he planted his germed seeds right into that soil and the plants grew slow as yours are,so he transplanted into a soil w/ little to no nutrients and the plants perked up and started growing at a much faster pace. The conclusion we came to was that the FF soil is to strong for seedling to be placed directly into, now I use a rapid rooter or rockwool to start my seeds, once they establish a good root system I transplant into the FFOF soil.

Im just using a Peat moss and Perlite mix. I dont have many places near me that i can go to and get some good soil so i just made a mix myself. I did add a little blood meal to the soil when mixing but only a little. This could have had an effect on the plants growth then if you what your saying is correct. We'll see tomorrow though if i can find some good soil i'll make a transplant in the morning.

GDS StonerBoy
09-20-2007, 01:15 PM
I decided to show a few pics of my DIY bubbler buckets. It just a simple setup that if i could make it any better i'm open to suggestions.

Basically though here's a simple setup that is less than 25 dollars to make and it works well. Last grow from bagseed i got 3 ounces from one plant and it was my first real hydro grow with only 6 cfls and Earth juice nutes. This time around i'm hoping to get more like 5-10 ounces dry per bucket! Here's some pics of the very simple setup for all newbs that want to give this a try.

GDS StonerBoy
09-20-2007, 01:22 PM
Simply i bought a 5 gallon bucket, Flat black Spray paint, 8 inch flower pot, 8' air hose, 2 cheap airstone's and a 30 gal pump. Eventually though i'll be getting 10 inch air stones but i just bought these for the time being.

Simply drill several holes in the bottom of your Flower pot, 1 hole in the side of the bucket for your air hose and about a 7 inch hole in the lid of the bucket for the flower pot to set in. It's as simple as that and this same exact bubbler without the dripper ring got me 3 ounces using only cfls. This time around i'm using 5 buckets with a 1000 watt hps so im hoping for a way better yield!

Kind
09-20-2007, 01:32 PM
Wow GDS! Those lil bubbler buckets can do some growin, ay?

3 oz's, was that from one plant on cfl's?!?

Your gonna have a nice big yield w/ 5 and a 1000 watter, no doubt. At least a 1/2 lb.

Oh, one more Q, is your c99 from joey weed seeds? I've been wanting to score em for so long, just never got around to it. Hopefully my next purchase will be some Herijuana or Oguana Kush, mmmmm. Heh im ramblin on here sorry i'm stoned. Peace.

BigWeed
09-20-2007, 04:06 PM
Simply i bought a 5 gallon bucket, Flat black Spray paint, 8 inch flower pot, 8' air hose, 2 cheap airstone's and a 30 gal pump. Eventually though i'll be getting 10 inch air stones but i just bought these for the time being.

Simply drill several holes in the bottom of your Flower pot, 1 hole in the side of the bucket for your air hose and about a 7 inch hole in the lid of the bucket for the flower pot to set in. It's as simple as that and this same exact bubbler without the dripper ring got me 3 ounces using only cfls. This time around i'm using 5 buckets with a 1000 watt hps so im hoping for a way better yield!

:hippy:Yeah you should get some really good yeilds with that 1000 watter. I usally get around 5 to 6 ounce's per plant dry weight I use 2 400 watters in a 4x4 grow tent. I plan on getting 2 600 watters and start using co2 when I heal up some more. I use dwc buckets with GH nutes and Big bud.:rasta::pimp:

GDS StonerBoy
09-20-2007, 04:46 PM
:hippy:Yeah you should get some really good yeilds with that 1000 watter. I usally get around 5 to 6 ounce's per plant dry weight I use 2 400 watters in a 4x4 grow tent. I plan on getting 2 600 watters and start using co2 when I heal up some more. I use dwc buckets with GH nutes and Big bud.:rasta::pimp:

Thats nice as hell bro! You should definitely do well with 2 600 watts! For the price you'll pay for the 600's you could get 2 1000's from htgsupply on ebay.com, for the same price. Check it out they have very good stuff, it isnt cheap crap, it works really well with really good prices. But that may be overkill though for a 4x4 grow tent though? So scratch what i said go with the 2 600's they will do a bang up job in that tent. How many plants do you usually grow at 1 time in that tent?

Im definitely thinking though if i get everything right i could get over 10 ounces dry off of each plant with that 1000 watter. Since i did so well with just cfls i figured i could do 10x better with 10x times the light, whaddya think? If my fricking C99's dont pull through, the very awesome PROGROWannabe is gonna hook me up with some of his grade A C99 F3's! And i'll go ahead and purchase the Joey Weeds Ak47, Ak99, or Apollo 11 but its totally undecided atm. So hey ProGro why dont you help me out and tell me which one should i got with bro?!

ProGroWannabe
09-20-2007, 07:56 PM
LOL GDS, Well, I think the Ak would be what I'd do next. I thought you might go the AK route, so I looked at Hemp Depot's site last night and decided I'll be ordering Northern Lights and White Russian as soon as the big plants pictured above are done. Should be about another 5 weeks!

GDS StonerBoy
09-21-2007, 12:21 AM
I think i'll be going with Ak 47 and Apollo 11. I couldnt decide between the 2 so im just gonna get them both. I'm probably gonna place the order in a few days!

ProGroWannabe
09-21-2007, 02:17 AM
Right On GDS! I WISH I could order in two weeks. :)

BigWeed
09-21-2007, 04:12 PM
Thats nice as hell bro! You should definitely do well with 2 600 watts! For the price you'll pay for the 600's you could get 2 1000's from htgsupply on ebay.com, for the same price. Check it out they have very good stuff, it isnt cheap crap, it works really well with really good prices. But that may be overkill though for a 4x4 grow tent though? So scratch what i said go with the 2 600's they will do a bang up job in that tent. How many plants do you usually grow at 1 time in that tent?

Im definitely thinking though if i get everything right i could get over 10 ounces dry off of each plant with that 1000 watter. Since i did so well with just cfls i figured i could do 10x better with 10x times the light, whaddya think? If my fricking C99's dont pull through, the very awesome PROGROWannabe is gonna hook me up with some of his grade A C99 F3's! And i'll go ahead and purchase the Joey Weeds Ak47, Ak99, or Apollo 11 but its totally undecided atm. So hey ProGro why dont you help me out and tell me which one should i got with bro?!

I can get 3 plants in 5 gallon buckets in there and 20 1 gallon buckets sog. I get more yeild with the sog I just have to flower when plants get 7inchs tall. Yeah I hear you Iwas going to go with the1000 watters I thought it whould be over kill and the 600s are going to be electronic ballast because I seen first hand what they can do. My friend has three of them and they out do the 1000 watter and they save on energy. I ordered some Ak47 and C99 from joey weed and I cant wait to grow them out I have some WW and some seeds that I had breed with my WW. What I ment earlier was when I want to grow big plants I can get 3 5 gallon buckets in there and when I do sog I can get 20 1 gallon buckets in there. 10 ozs dry is doable are you going to do sog or big ass plants. I would do sog but if you are going to do big plants I would nt no more than 3.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

ProGroWannabe
09-23-2007, 02:28 AM
Well, I really wanted to do simultaneous updates with GDS, but at this early stage, I don't think much growth can be compared.

So, since I just transplanted the C99 into small pots, I thought I'd throw y'all some eye-candy. The two largest plants are PPP's. They are the two most vigorous ones I have growing. They rooted first, and are growing faster than the rest. However, my cloning environment sucks at the moment. So I think that's more to blame than anything else, for the different growth rates. I'll get it all lined out. Just gonna take more time.

GDS StonerBoy
09-23-2007, 10:57 AM
Good idea pro Gro it is hard comparing growth at such an early stage so we'll start when the plants are of adequate size!

But here's an update on the C99 and Papaya since there transplant into bigger pots.

The Papaya has grown 2 inches in 2 days since the transplant. The C99 has gotten way bushier but has also gained an inch since transplant. The first pic is the C99 and the second is the Papaya! I'll get pics of the C99 and PPP seedlings this afternoon and give you guys and update on those.

Shovelhandle
09-23-2007, 01:16 PM
This is a wonderful log thread, guys. Keep up the good work!

Shov

ProGroWannabe
09-23-2007, 08:29 PM
Thank you shovelhandle. I'm sure we'll run into a few glitches with this format, but we're tryin to keep it from getting too confusing.

GDS, 'dem sure is some sweet lookin girlies! Wish my C99 was that bushy. I goofed, and didn't get the lights right on top of them like I should have.

whatsthatsmell
09-24-2007, 03:05 PM
hey Pro quick question for ya, is it the pic or just me, but it looks like your plants are getting a little stretched? They look healthy and all just a little tall, was sure if the pic was up close or what....

GDS, thanks for the pics on your DWC, inspired by your setup, i have the samething going, same plant (clones from the same mother) one in DWC and one in soil. Feeding the same nute mix to both since they are both at the same stage.

other than that this is a great compare...keep it up guys :thumbsup:

ProGroWannabe
09-24-2007, 11:36 PM
WTS....your right they are stretched. The C99 seedlings have stretched bad. It's all my fault though. I was too worried about them being delicate right after they popped their heads up. I decided to leave the lights up for a couple of days to keep from giving them too much heat.....obviously that was a mistake. Seems whenever I see the result of my dumbass attacks, what happened becomes very obvious.---lol

The two larger plants are PPP's. They aren't stretched, believe it or not. I selected this pheno from four plants that I grew out before. Their mom was by far the most vigorous of the ones I had. So, they will prolly grow tall as well. I just topped them this afternoon, so that will slow them down a little bit. I expect there to be quite a difference between the height of the PPP and the C99 once they go into the flower room.

BigWeed
09-25-2007, 06:00 AM
WTS....your right they are stretched. The C99 seedlings have stretched bad. It's all my fault though. I was too worried about them being delicate right after they popped their heads up. I decided to leave the lights up for a couple of days to keep from giving them too much heat.....obviously that was a mistake. Seems whenever I see the result of my dumbass attacks, what happened becomes very obvious.---lol

The two larger plants are PPP's. They aren't stretched, believe it or not. I selected this pheno from four plants that I grew out before. Their mom was by far the most vigorous of the ones I had. So, they will prolly grow tall as well. I just topped them this afternoon, so that will slow them down a little bit. I expect there to be quite a difference between the height of the PPP and the C99 once they go into the flower room.
Other than the strecthing the look fine and doing good. I cant wait to start my grows again I ordered some c99 and ak47 from joey weed through hemp depot that came in last week. Right now I cant do much with multiple injurys from a car wreck earlier this year. Ill be back to growing the first of next year.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

ProGroWannabe
09-25-2007, 04:41 PM
So sorry to hear about the wreck Big Weed! An injury is what got me started growing again though. I shattered my knee falling from the top of an eight foot step ladder. Ya know, that place on the ladder where it says "This is NOT a step"--yeah thats where I was standing. Anyway to my surprise, you really can get hurt falling from eight feet. All you have to do is land with your knee locked, and bounce like you were on a pogo stick.

Oh well, now I know I'm not invincible!
Good to have you watchin the thread and try to remember--its all about "one day at a time".

BigWeed
09-25-2007, 06:27 PM
So sorry to hear about the wreck Big Weed! An injury is what got me started growing again though. I shattered my knee falling from the top of an eight foot step ladder. Ya know, that place on the ladder where it says "This is NOT a step"--yeah thats where I was standing. Anyway to my surprise, you really can get hurt falling from eight feet. All you have to do is land with your knee locked, and bounce like you were on a pogo stick.

Oh well, now I know I'm not invincible!
Good to have you watchin the thread and try to remember--its all about "one day at a time".

I know what mean I cant wait to get back to growing. Im staying tuned in because I want to see those c99 finished I have some and all I hear are good things about them. Other than that keep up the good work and those girls are looking good peace.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

GDS StonerBoy
09-26-2007, 03:21 PM
Ok here's another update on my soil plants! I guess the C99 and Papaya were haveing a rootbound problem although it didnt look like it. The plants have taken off since the transplant. The papaya stretched a bit because after switching pots i forgot to lower the lights back causing them to stretch. The C99 though is still in perfect shape and she's beginning to be quite the busy little babe! The temps are at 80f they could be lower but the plants are doing fine like that. I may still add a fan in there this afternoon but im not sure at this moment.

The first 3 pics are of the C99 and the last two are of the papaya.

Kind
09-26-2007, 03:25 PM
Super healthy plants there GDS!!! Nice work so far! The C99 is really stackin up nicely. Keep up the great work.

GDS StonerBoy
09-26-2007, 03:30 PM
Ok for my young seedlings they seem to be ok but obviously they are in need of some nutes, so last night i added 3 tablespoons of Earth Juice grow to 10 gallons of Rez water. They have been living for almost 2 weeks now without any nutes at all and im sure that has something to do with the discoloration problem they are having.

I want to add 2 more PPP and 2 Skunk #1 seedlings to the system but with the ages being different obviously the older will need more nutes than the younger one's. I was wondering though if i could give very light nutes to the older seedlings just to keep them growing but not enough to harm the new seedlings?

Anyway here's a couple of pics of the buggers!

The First pic is of the C99, the rest are PPP. You'll notice the small problems im having if anyone knows what this problem is let me know!

whatsthatsmell
09-26-2007, 03:39 PM
Nice healthy plants GDS, just out of curiosity, are you going to transplant them into your DWC or you going to stick with soil?....

LOL, just saw your post after i posted, so that answers that question.

You could probably give them a nice shot of "Superthrive" and B'cuzz root, my clones LOVE that stuff....

GDS StonerBoy
09-26-2007, 04:55 PM
Super healthy plants there GDS!!! Nice work so far! The C99 is really stackin up nicely. Keep up the great work.

Thanks bro! What ever happened to those pics you promised to show us.

GDS StonerBoy
09-26-2007, 04:56 PM
Nice healthy plants GDS, just out of curiosity, are you going to transplant them into your DWC or you going to stick with soil?....

LOL, just saw your post after i posted, so that answers that question.

You could probably give them a nice shot of "Superthrive" and B'cuzz root, my clones LOVE that stuff....

I'm glad you said that about the superthrive! I havent used the stuff but everyone swears by it so i'll go pick some up today.

whatsthatsmell
09-26-2007, 05:19 PM
i dont use it at full strength, but a diluted version of whats on the bottle, and they just get GRAEEEEN.... and they have perked up like crazy. Its suppose to help with root development, i havent gotten in to see how they are doing but thats because i'm not really concerned with it since they are so green and healthy looking. The only ones in the tray that are not all that great looking are the ones that i took from an already stressed plant, but thats just cause i was impatient (n00b move i know). With you being a hydro kinda guy, those roots are key to you, so yah, superthrive will give them a nice kick in dah arse that your looking for.

GDS StonerBoy
09-29-2007, 12:38 PM
Here's another update on the Soil C99. She has had some really good growth in the past few days. Im gonna be taking maybe one or 2 clones from her in 2 weeks, in order to flower and determine sex. If it turns out to be a male i'll keep it in veg and just dispose of the clones but i plan on keeping a male for breeding stock. If she's a female though i'll feel up the empty spots in my drip system with the clones. I left 4 spots empty but im gonna add another PPP seedling and a Skunk#1 seedling, that'll leave me with two empty spots and if the clones root well this is where they'll be vegging until i decide to flower them.


So to sum it all up! I'll take clones from my soil C99 in two weeks, when they root i'll keep two in veg and flower one. If the one that flowers is female than the other 2 will stay in veg for like 2 or 3 more weeks before going into the flower room. If the clone turns out to be a male i'll just off all of the clones and keep the original in soil for later breeding stock.

Ok enough of the rambling here's a few pics of the lady!

ProGroWannabe
09-29-2007, 01:27 PM
They're lookin good GDS! I'll try to update later today as well.

Kind
09-29-2007, 02:19 PM
Beautiful, they are filling out nicley. Do you use any foliar applications?

GDS StonerBoy
09-30-2007, 09:08 AM
Beautiful, they are filling out nicley. Do you use any foliar applications?

No not really i usually just mist them every now and then with some regular water but im sure that has nothing to do with the filling out she's doing.

ProGroWannabe
09-30-2007, 06:06 PM
Here's my Cindys. They are about eight inches tall at the time of these pics.

ProGroWannabe
09-30-2007, 07:32 PM
Here's the reason I can't flower the C99's-----horrible problem to have huh?

Anyhow these are G13 x WW that I bought as clones since my seed order had not come in yet. I like 'em!!!!

Kind
09-30-2007, 07:33 PM
No not really i usually just mist them every now and then with some regular water but im sure that has nothing to do with the filling out she's doing.

Cool. I just started my first foliar feed on my ladies yesterday. I used some stuff a grower sent me from australia, its a sea weed concentrate called Seasol. It works wonders! All organic too. :thumbsup: You can apply it all through out flowering (every week or two) up until chop without experiencing bud mold, its pretty amazing stuff and i'd really recommend it..... Hers a bit of info on it, if you don't mind. You can get all the info if your interested HERE (http://www.seasol.com.au/index.php?option=displaypage&Itemid=206&op=page)


BENEFITS OF SEASOL
Seasol is designed to complement a sound nutritional program and can provide benefits over and above a straight nutritional regime, i.e. not only the growth stimulating benefits of a fertiliser, but many other benefits as well.

Replicated and field trials have clearly demonstrated that Seasol treated crops display the following:

Markedly improved root mass
Increased number of blooms
Increased yield
Reduced sucking insect attack (eg aphids, spider mite)
Reduced fungal infestation (eg black spot, mildew)
Reduced transplant shock
Increased tolerance to adverse environmental conditions ? ; such as heat and drought
Increased nutrient uptake
Seasol can be applied to any plant including natives and acid lovers, at any time of the year.
The root system will be stimulated at any time of the year, even Winter, which makes Seasol ideal for Winter transplanting.

:smokin:

ProGroWannabe
09-30-2007, 07:48 PM
Damnit!! Wrong pics uploaded guys/gals----sorry!
Can a mod delete the above post for me???? Please!

Here's the real reason I can't flower the C99's.

Anyhow these are G13 x WW that I bought as clones since my seed order had not come in yet. I like 'em!!!!

ProGroWannabe
09-30-2007, 07:51 PM
Thats good info Kind. I'll be looking into it when I restock supplies. Thanks.

Kind
09-30-2007, 08:47 PM
No problem bro, didnt mean for that to look like it was for GDS only either. Your flowering room and plants looks great bro! The g13 x ww is getting mighty frosty how far along are they?

ProGroWannabe
09-30-2007, 09:36 PM
Right now they're 5 weeks into flower. I have found that they are nute hogs--lol. I keep increasing it, and they keep growing bigger and fatter?!

GDS StonerBoy
10-01-2007, 12:20 PM
Damnit!! Wrong pics uploaded guys/gals----sorry!
Can a mod delete the above post for me???? Please!

Here's the real reason I can't flower the C99's.

Anyhow these are G13 x WW that I bought as clones since my seed order had not come in yet. I like 'em!!!!

Wow! Looking real good Pro Gro! Do those 400 watters not burn the plants being so close? Those gals look good cant wait to see them finished. How much do you predict they'll weigh?

ProGroWannabe
10-02-2007, 12:36 AM
Thanks bro! So far there has been very minor burning issues. I got a couple of the girls too close when I first started this setup, but now what I've found out through experience is a distance of about eight inches is as close as I dare get them. So that's where I have them.

Yield per plant is a tough one at this point. Is a pound a plant too much to ask for? Lol...... it is on these. I like the strain a lot, but I'm a little worried about the yield. At this point I think it's safe to say it will be a little over an oz per plant. But they have a lot of swelling to do in the next few weeks. So, maybe, just maybe if god were a grower too, he might smile on me with three oz's each.

These G13xWW's are by far the healthiest looking plants I've ever grown. I have increased their nutes twice each week, and can't seem to burn 'em. Right now they are at approx. 130% strength according to the bottles. But my last run of PPP gave me an average of an oz each under cfl's with only one week veg., and all I had for nutes then was fish emulsion, and PK 13-14. So, I really hoped under a total of 1200 watts of HPS, the yield on these would stomp the cfl grow, but I'm not sure that will happen on a plant to plant comparison. Only time will tell I guess.

BigWeed
10-03-2007, 06:15 PM
Hey whats up guys just checking in and PGW those girls look mighty fine. Hey ProGrow do you have any bud inhancers like Big bud or any mollasses I think that would kick them into high gear.

ProGroWannabe
10-04-2007, 02:25 AM
Thanks BigWeed! They just finished their PK 13-14 diet. The only other things I have as far as enhancers go, is Earth Juice Catalyst and molasses. Catalyst isn't necessarily an enhancer per say, but it isn't absolutely necessary either. The molasses is getting poured to em pretty heavy. This strain is not yielding what I hoped it was going to, but then again....#1. they're not done yet............#2. They're not getting every possible yield-building product available thrown at them either. So I guess all in all they're as good as can be expected.

P.S....My budget doesn't really allow me to spend two to three hundred on nutes and enhancers like I'd like. It isn't necessary to spend that much, but then again, it'd be funnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

I'll try to get some new pics up tomorrow;).

ProGroWannabe
10-04-2007, 03:37 PM
Here's a couple of update pics of the G13xWW. My shitty camera and its auto-focus feature isn't the best, oh well. Enjoy!

Shovelhandle
10-04-2007, 05:00 PM
WHOA, Fuzzy! I'd like some of that.

Shov

BigWeed
10-04-2007, 05:57 PM
Thanks BigWeed! They just finished their PK 13-14 diet. The only other things I have as far as enhancers go, is Earth Juice Catalyst and molasses. Catalyst isn't necessarily an enhancer per say, but it isn't absolutely necessary either. The molasses is getting poured to em pretty heavy. This strain is not yielding what I hoped it was going to, but then again....#1. they're not done yet............#2. They're not getting every possible yield-building product available thrown at them either. So I guess all in all they're as good as can be expected.

P.S....My budget doesn't really allow me to spend two to three hundred on nutes and enhancers like I'd like. It isn't necessary to spend that much, but then again, it'd be funnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

I'll try to get some new pics up tomorrow;).

The molasses should do the trick give them some time and they will come around. I read somewhere that the G-13xWW cross really doesnt yeild much anyway it more of a connisuer type plant. Its more quality than yeild. I know it will knock your socks off when its done.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

ProGroWannabe
10-04-2007, 05:58 PM
^-----Hands Shov an oz.....Thanks for stoppin by!

GDS StonerBoy
10-04-2007, 08:33 PM
Here's a couple of update pics of the G13xWW. My shitty camera and its auto-focus feature isn't the best, oh well. Enjoy!

Holy shit bro, those plants are absolutely stunning. That first pic makes my mouth water!

ProGroWannabe
10-04-2007, 09:17 PM
BigWeed... thanks for the heads-up on the strain and the molasses. First time I've done molasses. And since this is the first time I've ran this strain, it's kinda hard to tell what difference the molasses is making.

GDS... if ya lived closer you wouldn't have to let your mouth water for long--he he he!

KL4D4
10-04-2007, 09:27 PM
Will you plz flower one cindy ): I want to see what happens soooo bad!

ProGroWannabe
10-04-2007, 11:08 PM
Lol.....the Cindys are comin. I just have to make room for them in the flower room. Right now its so full I have to move plants out to water, then move em back in--lol. No room for Cindy just yet. But trust me, I'm as anxious as you are!

When I make room here shortly, I'll coordinate with GDS on our official C99 start date. We've both got em vegging as we speak.

GDS StonerBoy
10-07-2007, 11:26 AM
Ok i finally got around to cloning my C99 and papaya yesterday. I wanted to take a step by step post with pictures on how i built my bubble cloner and how i exactly did my clones but im a jackass and when i got busy i totally forgot to take pictures of the process. Anyway though here's atleast 1 pic of the process done and the clones are doing well for day 2 i hope this continues. I have never cloned before i only grow from seed but i guess this is the dawn of a new day for me and thanks to ProGro i now have the balls and the know how to clone!!!
Thanks Bro!

GDS StonerBoy
10-07-2007, 11:28 AM
From Left to Right is 2 C99's and 2 Papaya the last papaya clone is just in there for the hell of it. I dont expect it to survive but i cut it by mistake so i said what the hell and just put it in there and hoped for the best.

Skrappie
10-07-2007, 03:30 PM
So, maybe, just maybe if god were a grower too, he might smile on me with three oz's each.

I really hoped under a total of 1200 watts of HPS, the yield on these would stomp the cfl grow, but I'm not sure that will happen on a plant to plant comparison. Only time will tell I guess.


I've been praying to the same god. I hope he hears me damnit!


Do you really think your CFL grow will out-preform your 1200 total watts of HPS? (plant to plant) That would be something to see.

Skrappie
10-07-2007, 03:32 PM
GDS,

I really hope to see more posts from you soon.

ProGroWannabe
10-07-2007, 04:44 PM
GDS...no problem on the cloning thing!

Skrappie... No, I don't think the cfl grow will outperform the HPS grow. Whats finishing up in the flower room now is a different strain than what was grown under cfls last time, so they won't yield as much no matter what I do. The yield potential just isn't there genetically. I guess I really wasn't thinking when I said that
:wtf:.

GDS StonerBoy
10-07-2007, 10:18 PM
GDS,

I really hope to see more posts from you soon.

Dont worry you will! Thats why im taking clones! Soon me and Pro Gro are gonna start flowering our C99's. I'll have constant weekly updates at that point. We'll both have updates everyweek up until harvest time. Stay tuned you wont want to miss this.:pimp:

GDS StonerBoy
10-08-2007, 01:27 AM
Ok here's a few pics of the papaya and C99 that is soon going into flower. The Papaya is a male im just keeping him around in flowering to collect some pollen after that its off with his head. I'm most likely gonna be crossing the Papaya to my Skunk #1, i definitely cant wait to grow that out and see the results of that! My C99 of course is a female and she'll be hanging around the neighborhood for a couple of years hopefully or atleast until i run out of room. Hopefully the other C99 seedling that is in the drip system will turn out to be a male. I'd definitely love to get more seeds.

Enough of my ramblin though. The first 2 pics are of the Papaya male and the second 2 pics are of the C99.

ProGroWannabe
10-08-2007, 02:14 AM
Absolutely beautiful GDS. Great work on those!

the image reaper
10-09-2007, 10:36 PM
very nice :thumbsup:

BigWeed
10-12-2007, 11:47 PM
Hey whats up guys those girls look real good. I cant wait to see those c99 flowering I just recently received my seeds from hemp depot and cant wait to start my c99s. Keep up the good work Ill keep checking in.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

ProGroWannabe
10-12-2007, 11:55 PM
Well here's the last of my G13 x WW's. This is immediately before the chop. So far they've averaged just over 2 oz.'s wet per plant. The first ones that are just now dry, but not cured are at 1 oz each. Of course there will be a little more lost, but overall they yielded what I had anticipated. Not what I'm use to, but what I anticipated. The stone comes on pretty quick, and will put you in your place if ya overindulge:stoned:.

BigWeed
10-13-2007, 05:20 AM
Well here's the last of my G13 x WW's. This is immediately before the chop. So far they've averaged just over 2 oz.'s wet per plant. The first ones that are just now dry, but not cured are at 1 oz each. Of course there will be a little more lost, but overall they yielded what I had anticipated. Not what I'm use to, but what I anticipated. The stone comes on pretty quick, and will put you in your place if ya overindulge:stoned:.

Ive grown just WW and the most I got from that strain in Dwc is 6oz wet and when dry I got 2.5 but I had to veg for 2 months. Those look sweet man I wish I could toke on some of that I always wanted to try G-13 I might order some and give it a try.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

GDS StonerBoy
10-13-2007, 02:03 PM
Well here's the last of my G13 x WW's. This is immediately before the chop. So far they've averaged just over 2 oz.'s wet per plant. The first ones that are just now dry, but not cured are at 1 oz each. Of course there will be a little more lost, but overall they yielded what I had anticipated. Not what I'm use to, but what I anticipated. The stone comes on pretty quick, and will put you in your place if ya overindulge:stoned:.

Damn Bro those look sick, wish i could toke on some of that but we'll have some good Ol' C99 in due time and i'm outta smoke so we need to get them flowering soon bro.

ProGroWannabe
10-14-2007, 01:57 AM
Bigweed....take a look at Reeferman for G-13. I have not grown it. But I do believe that he goes to greater lengths than most to obtain true genetics. I believe that his are crossed with something like everyone elses G-13 though. I don't know where you'd get just G-13 by itself, or if such a strain still truly exists.

Good Luck! Let me know if you dig up some good dirt on it though.

ProGroWannabe
10-14-2007, 02:01 AM
GDS....you and I have already spoken on the matter, but to let everyone else know: I will have pics of the C99 as soon as I can get time to get them photo'd. As of this writing, mine have been in the flower room only three days, so y'all aren't missin much at this point.

GDS StonerBoy
10-17-2007, 01:11 AM
Well it took forever but i finally have some roots showing after dealing with a algae problem. The one at the very end has some roots showing as well but i just didnt take the picture. When there done they'll go straight into flower and one will be a mother.

Skrappie
10-18-2007, 12:06 AM
Well here's the last of my G13 x WW's. This is immediately before the chop. So far they've averaged just over 2 oz.'s wet per plant. The first ones that are just now dry, but not cured are at 1 oz each. Of course there will be a little more lost, but overall they yielded what I had anticipated. Not what I'm use to, but what I anticipated. The stone comes on pretty quick, and will put you in your place if ya overindulge:stoned:.


fucking wow man, those are mouth watering. And no worries about your yield man, i'm sure a little bit of that beauty goes a long way.:rastasmoke:

ProGroWannabe
10-18-2007, 12:19 AM
Yup! It sure does Skrappie. Thanks for stoppin by.

Ya likin the bubble clonin GDS? HeHe

I'm still workin on gettin those C99 pics guys and gals. It's been a little hectic 'round here.

ProGroWannabe
10-18-2007, 02:03 AM
Alright here they are:

GDS StonerBoy
10-18-2007, 02:18 AM
Alright here they are:

Those PPP off to the side are looking good. I didnt know the coco worked that well. I might have to give it a go until i can get another ph meter.

BigWeed
10-20-2007, 04:28 AM
Alright here they are:

Looking good man looking real good.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

ProGroWannabe
10-20-2007, 05:16 AM
Better pics in the morning(10/20). The room is gonna undergo a metamorphosis. Stop by tomorrow afternoon and check it out!

ProGroWannabe
10-20-2007, 10:31 PM
Well I'm finally on the short end of getting my room laid out the way I want it. I spent all day today taking down lights, moving plants out & back in, and putting up my new pot-holder shelving.

The term shelving, doesn't really apply correctly, because I created an interference fit for the pots instead of the pots sitting on a shelf.

Oh well, enough blabber from me, here's the new room:

GDS StonerBoy
10-20-2007, 11:30 PM
Thats FUGGIN nice bro! Looks like someone gets more usage out of those HPS's. Now when you get a chance all you have to do is throw some mylar on them walls and your not gonna be wasting any of those lumens.

Those beautiful budding plants wouldnt happen to be PPP would they? What size pots are the bottom plants in?

ProGroWannabe
10-20-2007, 11:57 PM
Yeah bro, the ones that are furthest along are PPP's. The pot size is just about 2 1/2 gallons. The place where I got em calls them 7.5 x 7.5---? I'd rather just see them called by their gallon capacity or liter capacity myself. Oh well,, they work. I will prolly stick with these, even though I'd like to go bigger. I just have so many of these right now, it would suck to have to buy enough of another size to get the room fully stocked.

I'm very happy with the changes in here for a few reasons. Number one... It's way more efficient now with most of the wall space covered in plants instead of the walls being bare like they were.
Number two...the plant capacity in my room just went way up.
Number three.. I can actually get the lights out of the way EASILY when I need to inspect the girls or feed.

Overall, I'm ecstatic about the setup. I expect I'll need cool tubes since my spacing is so tight, but we're gonna see if the a/c and fans can't keep the temps under control first.

It's been expensive and gonna get more so, but if ya wanna yield heavy, ya gotta let go of some dough.
I've tried it ghetto, and now I'm tryin to step it up a notch. Guess if I get busted now, they'll say "he was definitely a professional grower"--lol
I'm just a ProGroWannabe.

GDS StonerBoy
10-25-2007, 03:21 AM
Well its day 11 of flowering and the papaya has gone nuts and has male genitalia all over the frickin place he's even begun releasing his pollen. The C99 has just begun to show pistil's on all of her budsites and soon im gonna be sprinkling the love dust all over her. I think its a bit too soon but it really shouldnt matter right? If the pistils are showing she should be able to get pollinated i assume but if im incorrect someone please let me know. She's still a rather bushy chick even though i took 9 clones from her.

There currently under 4 T12 lamps until i can get the 1000 watter here and set it up. Anyway the talking is boring here's pics of the papaya and the C99.

GDS StonerBoy
10-25-2007, 03:26 AM
Some of these clones are 4 days old the others on the bottom row are a little older. The first batch have already been taken out and are now in soil.

tokr2153
10-25-2007, 06:50 AM
how long did it take you to get roots in ur cloner? i made one too and it took a real long time. lovely grow good job:thumbsup:

GDS StonerBoy
10-25-2007, 04:52 PM
Most of them start by day 7 but i have had some start showing roots by day 4. I think if you put the 2-15gal aquarium heater in there(its only 14 bucks) it helps keep the water at the perfect temp and you'll get roots quicker. I can tell you that if your water is too cold it will take forever to root like 10-14 days.

ProGroWannabe
10-27-2007, 04:46 AM
Lookin Sweeeet GDS! Ahhhhh bubble cloning...ya gotta like it huh?

GDS StonerBoy
10-27-2007, 01:14 PM
Here's a few pics of 2 of the clones that were transplanted from bubbler to soil. The first pic is of the one that isnt doing so well and im not expecting to make it. Not exactly sure what happened but it was doing well until i watered it so i'm thinking i may have gave it a bit to much nutes. It was in soil for two days without wilting but as soon as i watered he started drooping so i guess that couldve been the problem. The 2nd pic is of the oldest clone, he's been in soil for 7 days now and has definitely taken off. I was afraid to give her any nutes because of the other clone but she took off nicely after a very diluted dosage of Earth Juice grow. The other 2 clones have only been in soil for like 4 days and are still kinda stuck so i didnt take any pics but they'll probably take off around day 7 as well as this girl did!

GDS StonerBoy
10-27-2007, 01:16 PM
These are pics of the 2 skunk#1 seedlings they're about 5 days old and growing nicely. I have also germed an afghani seedling and i'm just waiting for her to emerge from the soil.

ProGroWannabe
10-27-2007, 04:13 PM
Here's a couple of pics of my Joey Weed stock C99 getting to know one another. I know the walls need to b white, but I'll get to that another day. I took a couple of pics of the C99's in the flower room, but the pics turned out bad. I tried to correct them
with an external program, but they just looked worse. So here's my breeders...

the image reaper
10-27-2007, 05:06 PM
Here's a couple of pics of my Joey Weed stock C99 getting to know one another. I know the walls need to b white, but I'll get to that another day. I took a couple of pics of the C99's in the flower room, but the pics turned out bad. I tried to correct them
with an external program, but they just looked worse. So here's my breeders...

hmmm ... you need a LOT more light, than what you're using ... CFLs don't radiate light very far, you need to be right close to your plants with them ... get white walls now, you don't have time to lose ... if nothing else, just staple up white paper, 'butcher's paper' has one side coated for water-resistance, but most anything will be an improvement ... with as little light given off by a CFL, you cant afford to lose reflectance ... good luck:thumbsup:

GDS StonerBoy
10-28-2007, 03:24 PM
Nice ProGro, you have a very healthy male and female there, should make for some nice F3's!

I've read that the C99 has 2 pheno's, a definite sativa pheno and the others more indica'ish. I had no clue of this until i was looking through the High Times issue of like 2 months ago and they had an article about it. I dont know if anyone else has heard anything about this but i definitely think mine is more of the indica pheno being that it stays short and bushy as hell!

So ProGro with you having many more than me have you seen the different phenos or does all of your more or less look the same?!

ProGroWannabe
10-29-2007, 12:20 AM
IR...Those are my breeding pair..that's the only reason they are in there as opposed to the room. I may take your advice though with a small adjustment, i.e. move the female into the flowering room till she fills out better, leaving the male where he is for pollen development. Then once she's developed a decent bud structure, I can move her into the cab. for a few days to get "what she's got comin to her" (hehe). After that is all said and done and I'm sure she has no "loose" pollen, I'll put her back in the flower room so she can develop seeds..............Let me know if you think I may run into trouble here, IR.
And the paint is coming in a couple days;).

GDS....IF, and I say IF I have an Indica pheno, there's only one in my room. It is staying somewhat shorter than the others. However, none of mine are as bushy as yours, not even the "shorter" one. Most of mine look identical to the female in the cabinet.

I absolutely PROMISE to get y'all some worthwhile pics of the flower room tonight-10/28.

ProGroWannabe
10-29-2007, 12:42 AM
I couldn't really get them isolated well tonight since the lights are off. I'll try to get some individual pictures tomorrow. Tomorrow does look like it's gonna be a busy one, but we'll git er done eventually.

Here's a few shots of the room as a whole.

Shovelhandle
10-29-2007, 01:29 AM
That's a nice big bunch of herb there, pgwb!

Shov

BigWeed
10-29-2007, 02:05 AM
I couldn't really get them isolated well tonight since the lights are off. I'll try to get some individual pictures tomorrow. Tomorrow does look like it's gonna be a busy one, but we'll git er done eventually.

Here's a few shots of the room as a whole.

Thats a real nice room man. I want to build someting like that in a few months. I got all my seeds I ordered I have the c99 and ak47 from joey weed and I have some stuff from Dr chronic. I ordered some from .....depot I got the bogglegum from them it came in yesterday but they didnt send me my other seeds I ordered from them the purps, bc god bud and bc blueberry. Maybe they will be in tomorrow. anyway those girls are looking good man keep it going.:rasta::rastasmoke::smokin:

GDS StonerBoy
10-29-2007, 03:23 AM
Damn ProGro that room is coming alone nicely! I cant wait to get mines back up to speed. Why dont you give a little rundown of all the different strains you have in there. And if its not to much of a bother, how much do you usually yield off of each of them? I gotta give it to you bro, that room has come along way and i think its gonne be going further. :jointsmile:

ProGroWannabe
10-30-2007, 03:23 AM
Shov....Thank You sir, your too kind. I'm just learnin like everyone else--from reading the grow logs of you veterans.


Bigweed...thanks! I haven't placed any BIG orders like you did, but I think in general, they usually ship orders such as yours a pack or two at a time.

GDS...I appreciate the big props. I really wanted to do something different in the way of room design. Not simply to be different but to maximize the use of my vertical lights and the rectangular shape. As you know from previous conversations GDS, I really struggled with the right solution to all of this. Well, I feel successful with the end result. Sure this could have been better, or that could've been better, but I'm perfectly pleased with the layout. Now if I can just get it all stocked, I'll be doin good;).

ProGroWannabe
10-30-2007, 04:06 AM
Strains and related info:
PPP- The PPP I have are all clones of the two mother plants that are also in the flower room now. I selected this pheno from seed-grown plants in my first grow with the PPP. I had four females to choose from. Three were structured like an main-cola-dominant indica. However, the one my clone moms were from was DEFINITELY a sativa dominant pheno without a doubt. It was an absolute monster compared to the others. It was more than two and a half times as tall as it's sisters! We're talkin almost five feet. Anyway...I kept two moms and that's where all of the PPP that are now in the room came from. There are 13 of them in there right now.
Cinderella 99 (Joey's)-I'm also flowering four C99's. They are only 2 weeks into flowering. I like them, but they are gonna be a challenge in my setup due to their bushy structure. As is obvious when you look at the pics of my room, it is VERY narrow, so a bush is probably gonna have to be lst'd inward instead of the typical lst being to spread the plant out. Right now they're really not getting TOO close to the lights. As soon as I can, I'm gonna get a decent ventilation setup designed and installed utilizing cool tubes, so plant scorching will be eliminated altogether.
Jack Herer-There is also one Jack Herer in the room. It just got cut today. Sorry I didn't get y'all a pre-trim picture, but I was in a big hurry. Things have been crazy-busy around here for the last week. It was time, so it got pulled. It is now being re-vegged. A grow-friend of mine said it was the best looking J. Herer he's ever seen and he's ran the strain four times now. So, I figured if this one looks that good, it HAD to get re-vegged.Yields

PPP- I have been getting a quarter pound wet weight on this pheno per plant. But, as most of you already know, that only equates to about an oz once it dries. The pile of buds looks bad-ass to begin with, but I trim heavy so that the buds are buds, and the trim is trim. So the pile gets considerably smaller once it's dried and been in the jar a while. I'm pretty sure that these numbers still have room for improvement in my setup with my pheno. I screwed them up on this last round by keeping the nitrogen regimen in place to long. The leaves clawed pretty bad by the time stretching had stopped. Live and learn....

C99-Don't know. First time running it.

Jack Herer-This my first time having ran this as well, and as I stated above, it's being re-vegged. I left about about 10-12 popcorn buds on it, so it would have plenty of sites to sprout new growth from. I still managed four ounces wet on it as well. I expect to keep a little more of that weight with the JH, than with the PPP. The bud structure on the JH is much tighter. We'll see.

Thanks for watching. Be sure to tune in next time for another installment of the GDS/ProGroWannabe grow show.

GDS StonerBoy
11-03-2007, 02:19 AM
Nice ProGro thanks for that info!

I was awaiting a free 1000 watt hps from my uncle that lives like 4 hours away but he hasnt had time to bring it down to me as promised so i decided to purchase my own. I ordered the valuline 1000 watter from discounthydroponics.com(only 199.99)! So i'll have that one soon and if my uncle ever decides to make the trip i'll then have 2k watts!

But until then my mother C99 is under the 4 t12 lamps. She is coming up on 4 weeks right now and she's looking good although the buds are fairly small. But i have 3 rooted clones off of her so far and 3 more showing roots in the bubble cloner, 5 more still havent shown roots.

3 of the C99 clones will be kept as mothers and the rest will go into flower as soon as the 1000 watter gets here. For right now though here are a few pics of the 1 c99 mother that is almost 4 weeks into flower and she's been pollinated by my Papaya male. Cant wait to get those growing!!!:thumbsup:

tokr2153
11-03-2007, 07:25 AM
nice grow man keep it up

ProGroWannabe
11-03-2007, 04:14 PM
Right On GDS! My little f3 seed project is well under way. Pollen sacs have started to open now. I THINK she's gotten enough pollen, but I'm not too sure. From all I've read, a little pollen goes a long way. I just wish I knew for sure. I'd hate to grow her out and realize that only a couple budsites have seeds ya know. As it is I'm basically losing all that nice sensemilla bud by pollinating her, so I really want an @ss-load of seeds. Besides, I have a grow-friend that I sort of promised some to;);).

Skrappie
11-03-2007, 04:40 PM
PGWB,

A little pollen does go a long way. If you plan on smoking some of that seeded bud, take it easy on her, you don't need 200 seeds, at least i don't think you do :)

GDS StonerBoy
11-03-2007, 05:19 PM
Right On GDS! My little f3 seed project is well under way. Pollen sacs have started to open now. I THINK she's gotten enough pollen, but I'm not too sure. From all I've read, a little pollen goes a long way. I just wish I knew for sure. I'd hate to grow her out and realize that only a couple budsites have seeds ya know. As it is I'm basically losing all that nice sensemilla bud by pollinating her, so I really want an @ss-load of seeds. Besides, I have a grow-friend that I sort of promised some to;);).

Lol, dont worry bro trust me a little does go a long way and i hope she has seeds galore:thumbsup:! I definitely pollinated this plant heavy because her only use is for seeds and i'm still probably gonna smoke her after picking all of the seeds out. She definitely wont yield much but she should still have that c99 kick! I finally have my 1k watter on the way so i'll just let my clones veg until the light gets here. Its probably gonna be like a 2 week delivery so the mother c99 will be nearly done when the others go in. Cant wait to get my perpetual up and running like ProGro's is, I gotta say bro that room is banging to say its just begun!:pimp:

ProGroWannabe
11-03-2007, 05:21 PM
Good deal Skrappie. Thanks for the input.

And no, I don't "need" 200 seeds per say, but if I'm gonna make seeds, then dammit I'm gonna make SEEDS! lol

Seriously though, I really lose a good percentage of the little space I have available by breeding these two, so I'm gonna let her have a full dose of pollen so that I'm not repeating this anytime soon. Besides a few grow friends sure would like to have some, and I don't want to give em just four beans and wish em the best ya know?

GDS StonerBoy
11-09-2007, 04:31 AM
Well i stopped to check out the Pregnant C99 today and decided i'd take a few pics of her. Her buds are still small because of the T12 lamp and the fact that there not the right spectrum for flowering doesnt help either but she's solely for stocking up on seeds so i'm not really to disappointed. She has about 4 weeks and im excited because i really want to grow out the papaya x c99 seeds.

Anyway though here's a few pics of the beautiful pregnant mother!

ProGroWannabe
11-09-2007, 09:48 PM
Here's lil miss C99 in the midst of her pregnancy (C99 f2xC99 f2 from Joey Weed).

CannabisCarl2134
11-09-2007, 09:53 PM
God Damn!!:D Plants looks knarley! How much longer to go? C99...Drool....

ProGroWannabe
11-09-2007, 10:56 PM
Carl, the C99 I have is roughly 4 weeks from finish. I don't really keep track of time, but read the trichs instead.

Here are some pics of the other C99's. I can't load them all in one post so the ones in the next post are C99's as well.

ProGroWannabe
11-09-2007, 11:38 PM
These are some random shots. The other plants with the spear-shaped buds are PPP's. They're a couple weeks from finish.

I had to put the funky "reflectors" back on the bulbs because I started seeing some issues. I'm not exactly sure what was going on. The result was massive yellowing of all the bigger fan leaves from the bottom of the plants. It was moving up the plants at a rapid pace. I believe it was attributed to a lack of nitrogen in the early stages of flowering during the stretch, coupled with the major intensity of the lights. My guess is that the plants had all the light they needed to grow at their maximum potential, but didn't have the nitrogen to support the growth at that rate. I foliar fed additional nitrogen for three days, plus added a small amount of nitrogen to their water/feed mixture. But since they were already three weeks into flower, I don't believe the uptake of nitrogen by the plants was still high enough at this time for the additional nitrogen to make a big difference. I know from previous experience that the damaged leaves wouldn't "heal", but I was trying to stop the proliferation of the damage. I believe I succeeded in that. And one of the factors, I thought, was to lower the lighting intensity.

So that's the story behind why the "reflectors" went back on the bulbs.

Anyhow....here they are:

GDS StonerBoy
11-17-2007, 03:29 AM
Ok so the 1000 watter arrived and i was anxious to get those T12's outta there and hook up the big boy! After hooking him up i took a few pics of the Pregnant C99 under the light. She's all by herself getting all that light for right now but 5 C99 Clones are gonna be joining her in the next week or two!

Here's a few pics of her! She only has 3 to 4 weeks left so hoping its not too late for those buds to put on some size under the big light!

ProGroWannabe
11-18-2007, 04:09 AM
Looking great as usual GDS! You got da skillz bro.

ProGroWannabe
11-18-2007, 04:13 AM
I've got a disheartening update folks. I've got some personal issues that have forced me to break the room down. Looks like I'm all done for now. I'll still watch the boards here, and especially this log (I am kind of fond of it ya know)--lol. Everything is all good. No legal trouble, just a big hefty sack of personal SHIT. Anyhow, peace-out for now. Overgrow the world!

GDS StonerBoy
11-19-2007, 04:26 AM
I've got a disheartening update folks. I've got some personal issues that have forced me to break the room down. Looks like I'm all done for now. I'll still watch the boards here, and especially this log (I am kind of fond of it ya know)--lol. Everything is all good. No legal trouble, just a big hefty sack of personal SHIT. Anyhow, peace-out for now. Overgrow the world!

Damn bro the room was just starting to take off! This could be good though. Now on your off time you can think about how to bring the room back bigger and better than ever! Cant wait to see you fire it up and dont worry i'll help you with some strains to fill that bad boy up!!!:thumbsup:

GDS StonerBoy
11-19-2007, 04:33 AM
Well i went check on the beautiful pregnant C99 mom and she's doing really well now that she has some real lumens on her! I started giving her some molasses today to help the buds swell. I took a few more pics and i put her some company in that room. She now has a skunk #1 to keep her company and in two weeks she's gonna have 5 C99 and 2 more skunk #1's to share the light with!

But for now here's a few pics of the Hawtty!!!:jointsmile:

ProGroWannabe
11-21-2007, 08:11 PM
She's "carrying" kinda low, doesn't that mean there all gonna be girls?--lol OK that was a pathetic attempt at a joke, I admit it.

The C99's sure have a wide branching pattern, don't they? Another thing, I'm really anxious to see how many seeds ya get from her.

BigWeed
11-29-2007, 08:00 PM
I've got a disheartening update folks. I've got some personal issues that have forced me to break the room down. Looks like I'm all done for now. I'll still watch the boards here, and especially this log (I am kind of fond of it ya know)--lol. Everything is all good. No legal trouble, just a big hefty sack of personal SHIT. Anyhow, peace-out for now. Overgrow the world!

Hey sorry to hear that man I hope things work out for you and cant wait to see you back in action just keep your head up and everything will be fine peace bro.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

BigWeed
11-29-2007, 08:02 PM
Well i went check on the beautiful pregnant C99 mom and she's doing really well now that she has some real lumens on her! I started giving her some molasses today to help the buds swell. I took a few more pics and i put her some company in that room. She now has a skunk #1 to keep her company and in two weeks she's gonna have 5 C99 and 2 more skunk #1's to share the light with!

But for now here's a few pics of the Hawtty!!!:jointsmile:

Hey GDS when will she be ready.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

Shovelhandle
11-29-2007, 08:21 PM
Gaffaw!!!
Well, what ever you gotta do... best wishes for a early comeback.

Shov

ProGroWannabe
11-30-2007, 01:24 PM
Thank You Shov! We'll get back to it, just a little unexpected hiatus.

GDS StonerBoy
12-05-2007, 07:19 AM
Hey GDS when will she be ready.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

well i chopped her and she's drying but she's only 3 ounces wet and full of seeds but its no worries she was only used as a breeding mom and she was horribly root bound. The clones of her should yield more because they wont have any of the problems she faced. I had a real nice clone i vegged for 2 months but i just decided to hit her for 8 clones so instead i'll be putting the smaller clones into flower. They should still put on some nice weight since they have atleast 3 weeks to veg. I'll place some pics of her drying tomorrow what thing i can say is the she put on some major frost!

BigWeed
12-06-2007, 06:43 PM
well i chopped her and she's drying but she's only 3 ounces wet and full of seeds but its no worries she was only used as a breeding mom and she was horribly root bound. The clones of her should yield more because they wont have any of the problems she faced. I had a real nice clone i vegged for 2 months but i just decided to hit her for 8 clones so instead i'll be putting the smaller clones into flower. They should still put on some nice weight since they have atleast 3 weeks to veg. I'll place some pics of her drying tomorrow what thing i can say is the she put on some major frost!

Way to go man I cant wait to see the drying buds pics.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

miley
01-16-2008, 05:23 AM
Is this thread over?

ProGroWannabe
02-29-2008, 05:42 AM
Hey Miley, speaking for myself, I just came back to the boards. I'll try to talk to GDS and see whats going on. I know on my part this thread was kind-of a let-down since I had to break my room down....trust me when I say no one is more sorry than me. Hopefully I can get my shit back together soon and GDS and I may try this again.