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giggy
09-06-2007, 12:35 AM
smokey, LabCorp makes you keep the door open while you piss? omg I hope this isnt true... Is this what they do at all LabCorps for all UA's? :wtf:
giggy
09-06-2007, 08:08 PM
walt, what was the procedure liek at LabCorp? I have a test coming up soon and i'm freaking out... Im substituting and I have a good method and i've been practicing... Im just a little (actually a shitload lot!) worried about the procedure at LabCorp... How long did you wait after walking in the door before dropping your sample? Did they make you wear a gown? did they stand by the door and make you keep it open while you pissed? If you could recall your experience that would be great!!
giggy
09-08-2007, 04:40 AM
from what i've read on these boards it sounds as if you'lll be fine. but, what were the circumstances on you failing in february? also, i'm confident they do not hold past failed tests against you. (atleast I know this to be true with Labcorp). also, what was the procedure like at labcorp? i've never been there and have only tested once with the ncaa but I also have a test coming up soon. How long did they make you wait once you entered the door? were you in a closed bathroom? did they make you wear a gown? sorry for flooding you with questions...i'm just freaking out...ive been freaking out the past two weeks actually... But, to answer your question, i am confident they DO NOT hold past positive readings against you!:jointsmile:
giggy
09-08-2007, 04:46 AM
mmmm "a Labcorp exam performed by a Concentra center" so im guessing that you werent at an actual "labcorp" center? omg i'm freaking out...
hehmke
09-08-2007, 04:55 AM
She made me sign a form and gave me a cup to go into a bathroom w/ no sink. I had to lock my wallet and keys up and empty my pockets. the toilet had blue water in it. the door was closed and she wasnt around.
Also my sample was my third of the day from what Ive read your first void of the day is the most concentrated.
giggy
09-08-2007, 05:06 AM
so when youre in a labcorp for a pre-employment drug test, does the cup they supply you with come with a cap? i'm asking because i have a pre-employment drug test coming up and I plan on subbing... Ihave a good plan and have been practicing! i'm just worried and bugging out and just trying to cover all angles...
giggy
09-08-2007, 05:09 AM
thnx for the info hehmke. does the sample cup they provide come with a cap or top of some sort? :stoned:
FakeBoobsRule
09-08-2007, 12:06 PM
Since you are kind of hijacking other threads and double posting, I gave you your own new shiny thread all to yourself to keep everything together.
Are you asking if the specimen cup the collection center gives you has a cap on it? No, it is wide open with about the circumference and diameter of a can of soda and about 3/4 as tall. It has a spout to make pouring out of the cup and into the vials the collector will pour the sample into. Those then usually have flip down lids but you won't be peeing directly into them.
giggy
09-08-2007, 02:10 PM
thnx FBR :thumbsup:
killerweed420
09-08-2007, 07:03 PM
If you have to substitute and they are trying to leave the door open try for a few minutes and tell them you can't pee.They will either hold you there for a certain amount of time to try again or release you to come back latter.When you come back put a small hose on the quickfix so you can our it in the collection tube without being noticed.
The DOOR is supposed to be closed.Myself I would just try to make like I was trying to piss a couple times and then tell them I just can't piss with people watching.This is NOT a failure of the drug test.
giggy
09-09-2007, 03:10 AM
when i read in certain threads to "invest and practice with a digital thermometer" does that mean to actually take it in with me to the drug testing center? I have one, a baby one, and I practice with it all the time...basically just testing the temperature after the sample has been crotched for 15 min. I dont know though, it beeps when I turn it on and it beeps again continuously when its done making its reading... I think somebody would hear it :wtf: FBR, any thoughts?
giggy
09-09-2007, 04:23 AM
my pot loving friends, also...what are the chances of there being a thermometer on the side of the sample cup they provide? I'm curious because right now im really worried about keeping the temperature in right range...94-98? I will have a foot warmer wrapped in 5 layers of toilet paper rubber banded around my sub container... im just curious because through my practicing I find that the temp after 15-20 min is around 99.5 degrees...but if theres a temp strip on the side of the sample cup then I should be good!...right?! :stoned: :( :wtf:
giggy
09-09-2007, 04:26 AM
im freaking out and I can't sleep at night worrying about this :(
SmokeyDude
09-09-2007, 05:08 AM
I was freaking out too and not sleeping well -- What an anxiety nightmare -- I passed though (so I think as my company finally told other people I'd been hired) -- All of that anxiety may not have been worth it though... I think I'm good -- Now all they can do is tell me to leave -- I hope they don't but my test was Tuesday morning and I'm still employed... Try not to freak out too much -- ;)
giggy
09-09-2007, 06:18 AM
smokey, do you remember any temp strip on the side of the sample cup? if so, does it jsut rread the initial temp when it enters the cup or can it fluctuate? thnx smokey :)
killerweed420
09-09-2007, 09:14 AM
All the labcorp tests I've done always have a temp strip on the side.
I would NOT use a thermometer that beeps.I hide one in my sock to double test my quickfix after I pour it into the cup.
I use the thermometer becuase if the sample is a little high or a little low you can't tell by the temp strip.If its a little high you can blow on it if its a little low your screwed.
FakeBoobsRule
09-09-2007, 01:45 PM
Giggy, you are doing it again. You are kind of hi-jacking threads as you are posting the same question in multiple threads. Be patient!!!! Be patient!!!! Don't expect a response at 2 in the morning everytime. Then you even asked one member to answer your question and they haven't been on in months.
Using the search feature or reading some posts would have given you the answer about beeping thermometers and temperature strips. First use a little common sense. Do you think they actually dip a thermometer into each sample or do they have something on the outside of the cup to keep possibility of contamination down to nothing? Would it make sense to dip a thermometer into each sample, expect the collector to clean it so that the next sample isn't contaminted by a possibly previous dirty sample? How many people would try to use this as an excuse for a positive. Do you think they use those expensive infra red thermometers that you can point at something and get a temp? Do you think they don't check the temp at all. Just some thoughts.
As far as "investing in a thermometer" that means to use to practice before you go in to the test. I don't even use one anymore but if you are new to it, you do trial runs at home till you perfect the place to secure the container and how to secure it and you use the thermometer to check your results. Some people take them in with them but this is very rare and useless. You only have 4 minutes in the bathroom so what good is it going to do you to know before you pour it in the cup that you are hot or cold? Stick it in the microwave? Throw it in the freezer? Oh, wait you're in a bathroom LOL :D!!!! I know killerweed said they used one but why? The strip is what they are going to go by so why use a different measuring device? Those strips are pretty accurate anyway.
The strip will change as the temperature changes.
Calm down and just practice at home with trial runs. You will be surprised at how much body heat you give off and you don't have to play mad professor with paper towels and toe warmers. Practice makes perfect and gives you confidence too. Now quit posting and go PRACTICE!!! ;) :thumbsup:
SmokeyDude
09-09-2007, 02:53 PM
Yeah, Giggy, like killer and FBR say, there was a little black strip on the side of the cup -- After giving my specimen the strip started having some colors on it in little circles with had temperatures in what appeared to be 2degree increments -- mine was around 94 -- 96 as far as I could tell. -- Regardless of the temp though, the guy KNEW my urine was coming out of me -- He made me stand there with the door 'cracked' open -- And I had to go so bad you could easily hear what I was doing.
giggy
09-09-2007, 04:34 PM
thanks for the info guys :thumbsup: gosh I hope they are nice to me and let me shut the door and everything... :wtf::( :jointsmile:
giggy
09-11-2007, 02:32 AM
ok im freakin out... I keep practicing with my bottle and actual urine (lol) and foot warmer. after having it tucked for 15 min I check the temp and its usually around 98.5 to 99-100... i'm getting worried :( if my sample is around the high 99's when its in the cup will I be able to drop the temp. safely by blowing and swirling it around while watching the temp strip on the side of the sample cup? will it be safe to help the temp drop with out them knowing the actual temp when it first enters the cup? i'm freeeakin outt!! :(
jeffman
09-11-2007, 04:04 AM
ok im freakin out... I keep practicing with my bottle and actual urine (lol) and foot warmer. after having it tucked for 15 min I check the temp and its usually around 98.5 to 99-100... i'm getting worried :( if my sample is around the high 99's when its in the cup will I be able to drop the temp. safely by blowing and swirling it around while watching the temp strip on the side of the sample cup? will it be safe to help the temp drop with out them knowing the actual temp when it first enters the cup? i'm freeeakin outt!! :(
Not to worry, Thats exactly how You cool QF. Blow and swirl check temp on cup...Each blow and swirl should drop it about a degree.
On the other hand...As a Casino Worker in Las Vegas I once had a on the job accident and did not have time to use the QF heat pad. I was in the bathroom and the QF in My fruit of the looms was around 93-94 degrees. Acceptable but Casino Security was involved so I couldn't take any chances...
What I did was to rub My finger on My pants (Quietly) till it was hot and I would hold My hot finger on the temp strip. I did this three times and the strip went to 96 and I submitted it and they looked and put a check in the temp box on the form and I new I was going to collect workers comp.
Winston
giggy
09-11-2007, 05:58 AM
you're the man jeffman :thumbsup:
killerweed420
09-11-2007, 05:58 AM
Yep its better to be little high than low.Cool idea there jeff.I would have never thought of screwing with the temp strip itself.
jeffman
09-11-2007, 02:03 PM
Yep its better to be little high than low.Cool idea there jeff.I would have never thought of screwing with the temp strip itself.
Thanks Killer and Giggy and Your not kidding. Too cold is not only a waste of QF and money but should You get a chance to re-test You will be observed.
giggy
09-22-2007, 02:28 AM
AH HA!!!
anyways, I had my test yesterday and all went well. I want to thank FBR and everyone else who gave their advice, tips, & info.
Let me give some details incase some needs some help in the future. so i get to labCorp, my clean sample crotched whcih my buddied supplied me with 2 min. before I walked into the labcorp door... So I get in there and she has me sit in the waiting room for about 5 min, which was ok cus I had a foot warmer wrapped in toilet paper rubber banded to my sample bottle. I found that heating a foot warmer for 5 min. exactly and then wrapping it around a 3 oz. bottle and having this sample crothced for 15 min will keep the temp.a consistent 98 degrees for 15-20 minutes. Also, I wrapped the toilet paper around the foot warmer 8 times...eight layers on each side. anyways, i get in there and after 5 min of waiting she has me intital and sign some spots she highlighted on the CoC and then after that gave me my bottle with a marked line. She said I had 4 min. She had music playing and the moment I walked in the bathroom someone called the office phone so i thought to my self "niiiiiiice". So in the bathroom they have a sink and toilet, nothing was blue and there was no tape...but there was a table making the substitution easy. I was in and out of the bathroom in probably less than a minute. Anyways, once I get out...this is where it gets weird, she hands me a long tube and tells me to fill it up to a certain line and cap it...once I did that she told me to take the rest to the toilet and dump it and clean the cup out (lol wtf). She didnt eve bother to check the temp...just wrapped the single tube ina plastic bag and did something with it...so I thought that was weird. but anyways, I want to thank everyone who helped me especially FAKEBOOBSRULE! :thumbsup: now I guess i just have to wait and see if my buddies piss was actually clean which im 99.99999% sure it was.
thank for the help everyone! :thumbsup: :hippy: :rasta: :D :jointsmile: :)
giggy
09-22-2007, 03:15 AM
does anybody have any insight on what this could mean? the labcorp person not splitting the sample and only using one tube... thanks for the replys.
killerweed420
09-22-2007, 05:11 AM
I believe they only do the split sample for DOT qualified positions.Sounds like everything went perfect for you.
I actually got called up today for a supposed random.I work in DOT sensitive job so they do the split sample.I didn't bother to sub because I had checked myself last night and was clean.It had been a week since I'd smoked.
FakeBoobsRule
09-22-2007, 05:59 PM
Killerweed you usually give great advice here but they use the split sample for more than just DOT testing. :thumbsup:
Giggy, read post 14 in the following thread.
http://boards.cannabis.com/drug-testing/130360-some-questions-help-needed.html#post1637253
giggy
09-24-2007, 01:16 AM
ahhh I see, thanks for clearing that up FBR :thumbsup:
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