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Thinx
09-05-2007, 10:33 AM
Hi Guys hoping a couple of you experienced growers can advise on Bud Size enhancers (do they work are they worth the money).
My Last grow which was my first = 6oz of White Widow grade A smoke and of one plant. This grow is 4 plants in NFT which are cuttings of the superb mother, and I was wondering about the claims these bud enhance agents make if true. Here is my new grow,[attachment=o155999]

LIP
09-05-2007, 10:45 AM
Yes, they do work. They are worth the money.

I could go on but i'm lazy and dont bother giving advice anymore - so post this in the growing forums and someone else will give you the rest of the info.

Thinx
09-05-2007, 10:47 AM
Thanks for that :thumbsup:

WeedyBoyWonder
09-05-2007, 12:51 PM
Look up "molasses", it's more of a cooking things than something you will find in a local hydro/growshop. I hear nothing but good things about this though, and it can be fed it right up untill harvest.
Others know and could provide more information on it than myself, but a quick Google should give you all the relevant info on it.

xcrispi
09-05-2007, 12:56 PM
G/H KoolBloom rocks .
Crispi :jointsmile:

rhizome
09-05-2007, 03:18 PM
Well worth it- do you have particular products in mind?

If so, it'd be helpful to know what the base nute program is.

Thinx
09-05-2007, 04:18 PM
Okay after I think I worked out what you mean, I have used Ionic grow for Veg and Bloom for Flower. And I also have boost by ionic to be supplied as and when

rhizome
09-05-2007, 04:27 PM
Great- run the boost.

Thinx
09-05-2007, 04:32 PM
No need for bigbud or other bud enhancers then?

rhizome
09-05-2007, 04:44 PM
Gotta admit I love the Bud Blood/ Big Bud/ Carboload combo- but there's a quick $120 out the door. And you can cook stuff w/ it.

Canna's PK 13/14 is very reliable, but needs to be timed right.

Discussion of " enhancers" can get complicated and partisan. If this is your second grow, I'd keep things simple. Better to get a less-than-optimal harvest( that you could have bumped up w/ additives) than to get little or no harvest ( cause you fried stuff w/ bloom boosters.)

The Ionic Boost is unlikely to react oddly to your other nutes. I haven't used Ionic, so I can't comment on how it will interact w/ products from other manufacturers.

Thinx
09-05-2007, 05:14 PM
Thank you very much for the information And your time I will use what I have and save the money:thumbsup:

Megatron
09-05-2007, 07:43 PM
Do these bud enhancers efect taste or smell of finished product at all? Please post what your experiences are when using these bloom boosters. I have always wondered if it effects the quality of the bud. i.e. taste, smell, smoothness, ect... laterz..

LIP
09-05-2007, 09:31 PM
Do these bud enhancers efect taste or smell of finished product at all? Please post what your experiences are when using these bloom boosters. I have always wondered if it effects the quality of the bud. i.e. taste, smell, smoothness, ect... laterz..

You flush the plant for THAT precise reason.

Dr. Bloor
09-10-2007, 05:19 AM
You may want to check out some pics I just posted regarding this. Basic growing.

highallthetime
09-13-2007, 05:16 PM
I use Bcuzz Additives during vegetative stage and during bloom. They help plants not to stress thus giving you vigorous growth. Also it helps develop more flowering points ( more buds ) and help keep it all greeen !

My personal opinion is to always add those additives in the quantities stated and you will be rewarded with more , bigger and better bud. Some also boost up flavor ( sweet carb ) .

So your choice , you want bigger better tasting more yielding bud ?

:chainsaw:

HighTillIDie
09-13-2007, 05:21 PM
i use dutch master's

g/h kool bloom
dutchmaster max
dutchmaster pure

Thinx
09-13-2007, 07:26 PM
Still taking all your thoughts onboard thanks guys:jointsmile:

20dollarholla
09-26-2007, 01:32 PM
Koolbloom has given me great results, I use it from the 3rd-6th weeks during flowering. I also recommend Superthrive from seedling til flush.

cwesto
10-19-2007, 07:31 AM
I have TigerBloom right now which i plan on using during flowering for my 2nd grow, indoors 400w mh and hps, soil. what other supplemental nutrients and/or bud enhancers would work well with the TigerBloom? I saw someone somewhere talk about a mix of 1 tsp mollasasalso + 1 tsp cal-mag + 2 tsp TigerBloom, and then ocassionally sprinkle some bat guano on the dirt; does that sound like a regiment that would produce high yeilding srystaly plants? Finally does anybody have any advice for specific products for veg?

Sorry, i kno these are newb Q:'s but i just want to have a succesful 2nd Grow. Thanku everybody

growbe
10-21-2007, 01:39 AM
Molasses is great to use, but is not considered an enhancer, same goes with cal-mag and such. Since you are using tiger bloom, you might as well use grow big during veg. Try cha-ching and beastzie boys for flower which are both considered enhancers.

cwesto
10-21-2007, 03:25 AM
By beastie boys im guessing u mean the beasty bloomz. Well then what is the purpose of mollasses? should i add it too my nute solution during flowering?

growbe
10-21-2007, 02:11 PM
By beastie boys im guessing u mean the beasty bloomz. Well then what is the purpose of mollasses? should i add it too my nute solution during flowering?
Beasty boys, had music on the brain last night. Hahahahaha...
Molasses in considered an additive that is rich on carbs. Can be used throughout the grow. In flower depending on what type you have you can use it every other water with nutes. Start off at 1 teaspoon per gallon. If my plants do not need nutes, I still add it alone. At the same time I also foliar feed with a mix of kelp and molasses up until I start to see buds.
Good luck

cwesto
10-21-2007, 10:06 PM
ok, so what exactly does the app of molasses do for the plant? ive heard that it makes the buds thicker? Also how do i tell when the plants do not need any more fert? like u said growbe u used molasses alone when the plants dont need fert?

home.grower
10-21-2007, 10:29 PM
How big were your widows to get 6 Oz? how many plants? watts? method?

I use lots of stuff...

Big Bud, Overdrive, CarboLoad, (Fulvic, Humic and Potassium Silicate) which contribute to bud development when used complementary and at the right time...

Gaining a good root structure is paramount when thinking of additives... Poor rooting during veg won't prove all the benefits of additives later on and could leave you feeling like your wasted money... but with 6 Oz off a single plant (assumption) for a 1st grow I do not think you will have that kind of problem as you already seem to know what you are doing..

Good luck

cwesto
10-22-2007, 01:34 AM
ok well what can i use to help promote good root structure during veg??? i heard supertrhive works wonders on improving the developement root structure. Does anybody with experience have anything to say about superthrive?

rhizome
10-22-2007, 03:39 AM
ok well what can i use to help promote good root structure during veg???

A good oxygen/moisture ratio in yer media, mainly. And good temp. management in the rhizosphere.
Canna's Rhizotonic is, IMHO, the best root stim on the market.


i heard supertrhive works wonders on improving the developement root structure. Does anybody with experience have anything to say about superthrive?

Yep- great stuff. Careful w/ it on young plants.

smoke_and_fly
10-23-2007, 06:37 AM
[quote=cwesto]ok well what can i use to help promote good root structure during veg??? QUOTE]

every one in a while pull ur plant out and full its home with rooting powder
dont go easy on it either
peace

Opie Yutts
10-28-2007, 09:58 PM
I stand by my mixture of Fox Farms Grow Big, SuperThrive and Liquid Karma for veg. Works wonders every time.

OrganicDelight47
11-04-2007, 05:26 PM
I don't know about superthrive but micorhizae(sp) helps the roots alot and is a nice soil additive. Also, you asked about good stuff to use during veg. A rather expensive but very helpful product I like to use is called Nitrozime. It is marine algae extract and is like a natural steroid for the plants. It causes luscious growth in veg or flower. Is also nice to use during first couple weeks of flower during "strech period" to help buds get widers rather than shoot up taller. And as far as molasses, I don't even use it until flowering because that is when the buds will soak it up and it will increase yield. Hope this helps.:rastasmoke:

letsgetlifted
11-04-2007, 11:53 PM
I don't know about superthrive but micorhizae(sp) helps the roots alot and is a nice soil additive. Also, you asked about good stuff to use during veg. A rather expensive but very helpful product I like to use is called Nitrozime. It is marine algae extract and is like a natural steroid for the plants. It causes luscious growth in veg or flower. Is also nice to use during first couple weeks of flower during "strech period" to help buds get widers rather than shoot up taller. And as far as molasses, I don't even use it until flowering because that is when the buds will soak it up and it will increase yield. Hope this helps.:rastasmoke:


yo, how much molasses do u use per 3 gal res?

knowboddy
11-22-2008, 12:51 AM
Gotta admit I love the Bud Blood/ Big Bud/ Carboload combo

Bingo, that's the magic stuff right there. You can't really beat that combination of bud enhancers.


ok well what can i use to help promote good root structure during veg??? i heard supertrhive works wonders on improving the developement root structure. Does anybody with experience have anything to say about superthrive?

It's pretty much 50/50 as to whether superthrive does anything. I haven't seen it do anything so I'm a skeptic. If you want crazy root growth get some Voodoo Juice. That stuff will grow roots on a bowling ball.

Combine that with a top of the line bud enhancer and you've got a recipe for some High Times cover shots.

oSecretGardeno
11-22-2008, 07:22 PM
hey knowbody,

The last four digits of the date on each post is actually the year. You may have been a year off ... lol.

I'm just kidding buddy, I've done this so many times, I just had to say something.

-Secret