Using Rain Water when Possible

[Tox]

It's pouring so hard here right now i couldnt pass up the oppurtunity to get some fresh rain water for my plant :D

[stinkyattic]

Don't forget your calmag plus!!!
And test it for pH- rainwater often contains sulfuric and nitric acid in concentarions high enough to register low pH. This comes from combustion of fossil fuels in the area where your local weather systems originate. For example, upstate New York suffers acid rain from factories and city smog originating in the 'rust belt' on the south shores of the Great Lakes.

[Tox]

I live in idaho so i dont think i have to worry about acid rain too much :D

[rhizome]

Umm- a fair amount of the smog in LA originated in China, and the smog where I live originates 500-1500 miles away.

Idaho's not a differant planet.

[Tox]

everytime i check the weather channel the air condition is excellent here.

[the image reaper]

DON'T use rainwater ... simple ... rainwater is distilled water, condensed in the clouds, and picking up pollutants on the way down ... since it is distilled water, it has no calcium, no magnesium, or any other necessary minerals ... :smokin:

[Tox]

i have to let my tap water sit for 3 days before i use it anyway, which makes it pretty much distilled anyway

[stinkyattic]

No it doesn't.
Tap water carries dissolved minerals such as calcium, magnesium, sodium, and potassium, along with most commonly nitrate, phosphate, bromate, and other ions. Allowing it to rest doesn't remove the minerals.
These are at levels safe for human consumption but my interfere with a hydroponic system.

[rhizome]

mmm... fair amount of crap is never going to precipitate/offgas/oxidize, no matter how long it sits.

Is your tap water supply really bad?

[twoguysupnorth]

i just about responded the other night. rain water it self is clean, it doesnt absorb minerals and such till it goes through the ground. i almost got pissy with rhizome because he lives in a heavily polluted valley on the other side of the mountains. then you have dessert climate.?

[stinkyattic]

Rain water doesn't absorb a significant level of minerals (Ca, Mg) while it is still in the atmosphere, but it DOES absorb pollution components.
Desert climate doesn't help you. If you live in an area where your storm systems come from elsewhere (as we all do actually), look to the origin of your weather patterns.
Storm systems don't originate in desert areas- there's little water to evaporate into the atmosphere to begin with!
And finally, did you know that PCB contamination has been found in measurable amounts in the tissues of people everywhere on Earth, even in very remote areas away from industry... stuff travels, and travels FAR, carried by thermal currents in the oceans and atmosphere.

[twoguysupnorth]

right, this was a thing about having a little to drink and not explaining myself correctly. i was talking about la in particular but the whole of the rockies stopping alot of rain and smog even, on the west coast side. some places will be cleaner than others but i dont think anywhere is free of chemicals that we have pumped into the air or ground. i dont think im coming off much better now so i will stop. sorry.

[stinkyattic]

True. There are certainly some far cleaner spots!
But hey, a nice IPA FTW... hops being, after all, cannabis' more socially accepted cousin... :D

[Earthy Dank]

True. There are certainly some far cleaner spots!
But hey, a nice IPA FTW... hops being, after all, cannabis' more socially accepted cousin... :D

Stinky attic...... Will you marry me??? You have over ten thousand (10,000+ ) posts. Give me your knowledge right now!!!! But seriously.. Props

[stinkyattic]

Oh geez... I don't come with much in the way of a dowry....

[rhizome]

What're you talking about?!!

30+ strains...

[whatsthatsmell]

she only comes with a stinky attic.... not to bad imo..... oh...and bathroom.... (meaning she has clones on the back of the toilet) LOL

[Weedhound]

well well what.....how did we come accross THAT tidbit of information......hmmmmm? :D

[whatsthatsmell]

ancient secret .... i'll be happy to share tho... http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/132618-not-sure.html

[Weedhound]

In honor of our beloved Stinky.....I will not take apart that "ancient" statement.... :D

[stinkyattic]

naw there's a pic in the link that whatsit posted up there ^^^
Pardon the ugly paint; my house was apparently previously inhabited by color-blind people... I am not sure why the guy at the paint store would have allowed anyone to purchase that color though... :wtf:

[Weedhound]

Your house too? It IS amazing what some people will not only look at.....but deliberately do things that are just plain horrible to look at as well......:smokin:

Come to think of it.....the entire 70's was like that.......:D

[whatsthatsmell]

shag carpet anyone?

[Weedhound]

shag carpet anyone?

in orange......with the avacado refrigerator

[whatsthatsmell]

where's the rake?

[stinkyattic]

I have the harvest gold short-shag, which, as some of you may recall, I started ripping out- oh- back in JULY, lol!!!!
It went great with the flourescent salmon pink walls in my living room! Those are now GONE. Buttercream with white trim ftw... I want to be able to sell the place someday... :wtf:

[Weedhound]

Buttercream sounds nice......and makes me hungry... :thumbsup:

[Chronisseur]

in orange......with the avacado refrigerator

...and brown panelling! Hey WH, I cant rep you again yet! what a pita! Im not as crazy as you think though;)

[stinkyattic]

Im not as crazy as you think though
That's not saying much; I'll bet she thinks you are entirely out of your gourd! :jointsmile:

[Chronisseur]

HEY! Thats enuff outta you!...:D
Go chat?
I was tryin to explain a strange light setup to WH earlier but we got cutoff!

[Weedhound]

I can't rep you either......I tried.....damn....I didn't even know I liked you.....much less repped you :D

Stinky has it if she has yours...I trust the Stinkmeister......:)

[Chronisseur]

...:wtf:


....and I thought we were buddies:(

Ill get it in a min and write ya!;)
(YAAY paneling!)

[Weedhound]

I'm thinking back.....about a crack...from a young whipper.....about grandpa......

[Chronisseur]

Hmmmm?...Oh yeah! I remember that OTHER Chronisseur that got banned for bein' a jokester! Member when I kicked em in the nuts for bein' mean to you?:D

...well boy am I glad we straightened THAT out!;)

[Weedhound]

What DID I rep you for? Should been for the blast to the nuts....:D

Like elephants.....weedhounds never forget.....:wtf:......

talk to you soon. :stoned:

[Weedhound]

hotmail

[smoke_and_fly]

rain water is fresh and clean and i disagree with anyone else who says otherwise

[rhizome]

Umm...

OK- we'll ignore the research (http://www.springerlink.com/content/f74422u65n082827/), then...

[twoguysupnorth]

:angry3: rhizome, you are no doubt intelligent but you live in the armpit of the USA. i'll have my beer now. lol. but honestly what do you think is cleaner? the ground on which we stand (that gets watered by all this rain?) or the rain before it falls to the ground? you either have city water or you have a well, or bottled water, where does that come from? i honestly dont know what your stink is about this kid using rainwater. sorry.
BTW. pepto pink and country blue should be stricken from the color wheel. JMHO

[rhizome]

No stink at all- he/she should use any water source that he wants to. Those would be his/her plants, and he/she should use whatever he/she wants.

My point was to dispell the myth that rainwater is clean- it isn't, and hasn't been since we discovered coal as a fuel. The large scale use of chemical pesticides sure as hell hasn't helped.

And when I see statements like...


rain water is fresh and clean and i disagree with anyone else who says otherwise

...well, that's just misinformation, and faith-based at that.

Rain water is no panacea for water quality problems- it has issues all it's own, and they're getting worse.

When people say that they live in a rural area, and that therefore they " don't have to worry about acid rain", again- they're misinformed.

I don't care what water this individual chooses to use- I just want them to make an informed choice.

By the way- I actually live in a quite bucolic area which is transitioning from primarily agricultural to mixed use ag/suburban- and our local farmers are quite aware of the decline in rain water quality. Thousands of miles from LA.

[the image reaper]

Rhyzome is correct ... as a photographer, I'm well-aware that tourists to the Grand Canyon are encouraged to buy their photographs from the Gift Shop, because it is virtually impossible to take good photographs of the Canyon, the years of smog from L.A. has permanently 'hazed-over' the Canyon ... and, it has been this way for quite a few years ... I don't advise against rainwater for it's pollutants, I don't recommend it, just because you have to add calcium and magnesium, plus the hassle of gathering it, so why not just make it easier, by using other water sources ?? ... :smokin:

[twoguysupnorth]

i know, it is already a problem with national monuments in the u.s. and a huge prob. with the other monuments that are a thousand+ yrs old in rome. i wasnt really disagreeing about the problems with water. just that you couldnt use it.

[Tox]

;):bigsmoke::i feel stupid:

[stinkyattic]

Rainwater, before going into the groundwater supply, has to percolate through the ground- sitting in a swamp for a while really does a lot to clean it up; the plants can use some of the chemicals in it, and some species can even uptake and bind organic compounds and heavy metals.

[Tox]

very interesting stinkyattic....

[smoke_and_fly]

rain water is perfectly fine unless u live in the city
where do u think all water comes from
ill drink rain water until the day i die and use wont live any longer than me even if use drank bottled water with a ph of 6.5
pfft i get worked up over this crap
peace

[420freedme]

I use ac, dehumidifier water, and rain water.

most cities get their water from rivers and lakes. just google your local water com. it's all there what's in the water.

human poo is listed on everyone. no poo in the sky?

very few get well water, and well water translates to hard water, soft water, or whatever ferts and pesticides the farmer had run off his tobacco.

acid rain is the reason you test ALL water sources ph and ec. aquafina anyone?

please do not take offence. this is IMHO&exp.