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Ulysses
09-04-2007, 06:57 PM
Hi everyone,
I have come across a great book, which many of you have probably already read. It is “The emperor wears no clothes”, by Jack Herer (Welcome to Jack Herer's Home on the Web (http://www.jackherer.com/index.html)). It describes very well what the reasons behind prohibition around the world are.
We learn in detail of the interests that the paper, the oil, the pharmaceutical, the alcohol industries have in common to press on politicians to forbid a plant which itself has a great variety of uses. It becomes clear why hemp is dangerous to them: all investments and profits in those fields would be lost. Net theory explains how a synergetic action among different powers is possible.
But what is even more clear is the power that we, as citizens, have. For a “Marihuana lover”, it should be compulsory knowing what's behind those wonderful, fat buds. The edonistic use of hemp is what we have in common, but it shouldn't stop at that level. Each of us should be able to accurately debunk each of the lies we commonly hear when talking of Marihuana.
I have been thinking for a while that we could do more than just planting our own. If each of us (here in Italy, where I live, statistics talk of ten millions smokers) dropped a hemp seed everytime he/she smokes, there would be an invasion of plants. They would grow on roofs, on sidewalks, in forests, in woods, in countrysides. It would be very hard to control the spread.
Of course, this should not be the only thing to do. Information and knowledge about hemp should be spread, too. Firstly, by us. This means that we should make an effort to actually know by heart all that has been written about hemp, all the studies that have proved it is a great plant, one who's been with mankind as long we have walked.
Here in Italy, old people can recognise a hemp leaf on the spot, because many of them used to grow it, and live through it. From one day to another, it became the evil plant that must be avoided. In twenty-thirty years, the majority of people has ended up believing it. I don't mean we should stop people in the street and annoy them by talking of the prodigies hemp may do, but rather, that we should be as informed as we can, and drop truth as much as seeds. In this way, creating the basis for a common knowledge and, more, re-estabilishing a true common sense regarding hemp, we could eliminate the misconceptions that have been propagated by a few individuals for their own benefit.
It is not only to have free puffs. It is for the sake of truth. We have been told we'll end up as drug addicts, as brain-damaged, as lost souls, because self-growing does not make money. At the same time, we all risk from fines to jail, on the basis of pure lies. Well, not all of us. For the few lucky ones who's “made it”, it usually fetches up with a fine, then a brief media storm, then silence. Here in Italy, there have been a few scandals with cocaine trafficking in the Parliament, but nothing has happened, showing a two-sided way of acting. Involvments of the Bush family in drug trafficking have been silenced, and the journalist investigating in it, Gary Webb, “committed suicide” by shooting two bullets in his head. Meanwhile, we talk of the lack of press freedom in Russia.
If hemp plants started to grow everywhere, people would ask themselves why. And to avoid to be labelled by mass media as “a bunch of idiots” or, worse, “terrorists”, information should be there, too. Granitic information, not just a few words.
A spliff is not just a spliff. A seed is not just a seed.
For the moment, I am deciding to remain anonymous, as in my country is illegal to self-grow, and I have clearly made statements about my doing it.
This is my seed, I drop it, I hope it grows. Not onanistically, I wish.

texas grass
09-04-2007, 07:01 PM
i have the ebook but have not read
from your little summary i will read soon
thanks
as i hit some kali mist outa the glass on glass bong

stinkyattic
09-04-2007, 07:02 PM
This comes up over and over and over and over ad nauseum...
If you drop a seed, GO BACK AND KILL MALES.
Ima be PISSED if my crop gets pollinated by rogue males from some foo' down the street.
And as Rhizome pointed out only just in the last couple days, "How about if every person on these boards and all their freinds actually voted? All that tossing seed around is gonna do is bring back paraquat- (just google it.)"
Until we get legalization, we're just TAUNTING to government. And they will respond as they have in the past.
Go vote.
Keep your male plants away from my sinsemilla.

Ulysses
09-05-2007, 08:43 AM
stinkyattic, you're right. I'm actually having a lot of arguments with people I know who don't want to vote because they feel it's useless.
But also, how do you think governments are going to legalize hemp, if it is not something we fight for?
You know, here in Italy we have the church, mafia, american strategic interests (look how many NATO bases we have, and recently they just enlarged one, in Vicenza, without even considering citizens requests, which where: we don't want it). The list isn't finished, we also have one man owning more than half of the media power. So, basically, it is not going to happen. They won't legalize it. USA started hemp proibition and, so far, the italian political class has always been more than happy to accomplish Americans' will. Mafia owns the drug market, and has a few men working for itself in the government (see Berlusconi's allegations, but not only those, it is a fifty years long story, actually longer).
Church has lost its power, but takes a lot of money from "rehabs", and has always been against any individual choice.
Media never talk about hemp, unless it is to say it leads to heroin; a few months ago, they even said the story of hemp, even if in just 30 seconds, and you know how the service ended? They said it makes people become schizophrenic and leads to heroin.
So, how do you actually think that who's in charge for us will ever consider legalizing hemp, if not by making it visible? It must be a process that starts from us.

Ulysses
09-05-2007, 11:34 AM
More of the same initiative

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Soft Secrets Forum :: View topic - Drop A Seed Initiative (http://www.softsecretsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2601)
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Marihemp: Politics: Drop A Seed Initiative (http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/msg1x109062.shtml)
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Soft Secrets Forum :: View topic - Drop A Seed Initiative (http://www.softsecretsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=23691#23691)
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Mariuana.it Drop A Seed Initiative (http://www.marihuana.it/modules.php?mop=modload&name=Splatt_Forums&file=viewtopic&topic=33495&forum=33)
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http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-com-lounge/132148-drop-seed-initiative.html
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angry nomad
09-05-2007, 12:33 PM
Ulysses, that is some deep disco shit. Weed can really open up your eyes. I don't understand how it works, but for some reason, I can the voice of the universe more clearly. When you speak the truth of the madness of Prohibition, and the reality of global conspiracies, it resonates with all spirits. But, do we choose to hear it, is the question.

Ulysses
09-05-2007, 04:19 PM
Wow, what a wonderful place this is....
I appreciate your polite way of discussing.
Ok, put it this way. You say there are no involvments by paper industry, pharmaceutical industry, oil and alcohol industry. Fine. How do you explain prohibition, then? How can you actually explain that, from one day to another, a plant used for centuries became illegal? How do you explain that the medical institutions were not considered when they voted?
You prefer to have it illegal, then. You prefer to act hiding as a rat. Risking jail for something that is not a crime. There are two reasons, I think: you either want to see yourself as a rebel, or you make money out of it. I once had a friend, with whom I smoked my first spliff, some 15 years ago. He started to sell hash and, suddenly, he started to say that legalizing would not actually be good to him, 'cause he would not make money out of it. You're from the States. You risk even more than I do, smoking pot. Do you see yourself as a criminal for that? Would you like to go to jail for that? Do you think that any of your presidents will it ever make it legal, to save your ass? So why is it illegal, then?
Here in Italy, they made a law for which, you either smoke pot or sniff cocaine, you end up in jail. Do you know what happened? Cocaine sells have risen.
You may want to have a look at these.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb_%28reporter%29">Gary Webb (reporter) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb_%28reporter%29)
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<a
href=2http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/webb.html">The Dark Allience - Gary Webb / SJMN Series (http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/webb.html)
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<a
href="http://www.narconews.com/Issue38/article1359.html>Narco News: Dark Alliance: Day One (http://www.narconews.com/Issue38/article1359.html)
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stinkyattic
09-05-2007, 04:23 PM
I'm moving this to activism, where it belongs.

Purple Banana
09-05-2007, 05:28 PM
Right on, SA. NO MALES! I am a feminist ONILY when it comes to weed, keep the females :D

I have a similar DAS initiative in my area, and I ALWAYS go back and pull the males, as do many guerilla growers. I'll grow a crop on a well-known trail hidden a bit, pull the males, and let it be. If someone happens to stumble across it? Great! They can take all they need.

Tea Party
10-03-2007, 06:51 AM
This comes up over and over and over and over ad nauseum...
If you drop a seed, GO BACK AND KILL MALES.
Ima be PISSED if my crop gets pollinated by rogue males from some foo' down the street.
And as Rhizome pointed out only just in the last couple days, "How about if every person on these boards and all their freinds actually voted? All that tossing seed around is gonna do is bring back paraquat- (just google it.)"
Until we get legalization, we're just TAUNTING to government. And they will respond as they have in the past.
Go vote.
Keep your male plants away from my sinsemilla.

Stinky, will you please tell the yahoos at outgrowbigbro.org this. They are in the number one slot on the High Times top 40 this month. There will be ditchweed pollen blowing into everybody's closet/attic before you know it. This idea was obviously thought up by a group of men.

We tend to think everything exists only in the visual realm. If pot can be seen everywhere, then it is bound to be legal, right? It can be seen everywhere already--go look in your neighbor's sock drawers.

Also, we (Men) tend to throw seed around no matter what the situation and whether it requires doing so or not.:D It is our way. We are nothing but a bunch of seed tossers. We try meditation, exercise, anything...but we still want to toss seed. This is our job.

And another thing: prohibition did not come to an end because everybody was cooking up their own gin in the tub. It ended because the public got sick of all of the jail and violence that goes along with it. VOTE, YOU MOTHERFUCKERS! AND FORCE AT LEAST ONE OTHER PERSON TO DO THE SAME!...and when I say vote, I mean for DR. RON PAUL...because political movements grow from seed just like weed grows from seed, and DR. PAUL will not bleed your weed...

slipknotpsycho
10-03-2007, 01:07 PM
i still fail to see how this would help....

showing direct disobeidnace immediately triggers a control response... seems to me that if we did this, the govt (local, state, or federal) would see that they're not enforcing the laws strong enough and would in turn, increase them....

i mean i understand the logic behind it, but that'd oesn't mean it'd work, infact i think it'd just backfire.... it would trigger a stronger response on finding grow ops, followed by busting major dealers and working their way down to the buyers... they'd do anything to let their prescence known...

they know they can't control it... don't ever think that they don't realize it... their logic is crack down, and the 'more sensiblie' ones will see possible future consequences and stop... while the rest are 'habitual offenders thta can't be rehabilitated or use reason and need to be locked away'

law actually isn't based on punishment, it's based on preemptive strikes... the laws are there not to punish those who do wrong, rather help influence others to STAY out of trouble... now i have a feeling someone might try to twist that statement and say i support the laws... but i don't.. i just look at things realisticly.... law is really based on preemptive strikes... the punishments are there to show everyone that it's not just like having a parent mad at you, if LEO just blew hot air, people would take them even less serious then they do now...

Tea Party
10-03-2007, 10:15 PM
Instead of throwing seeds into parks and strangers gardens, just knock on their door and offer them a joint instead. The only cure for the fear of weed...is smoking weed!