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Inferius
09-04-2007, 11:08 AM
1. Have you seen Thank you for Smoking?
In the movie he makes note of a very basic understanding that no argument can be absolved through the immaturity of basic opinion or black and white social consciousness moral identity.
"If you argue correctly, you're never wrong."

So I ask you this: How can a human being understand Anything outside of it's own mind, without first completely understanding the ACT of understanding, itself, as well as the nature of it's own psychological progression, mental roadblocks, or lack of empathy?

If philosophy or religion was so "right", then why are there so many? Do you really think that so many people would worship something unless it made internal sense? What about holy books? Why would someone go around writing lies?
Everything you've read or learned in school first originated within the mind of someone else. Why would they want to lie to you? What purpose does it serve to spend hours upon hours writing falsehoods?
If I asked you directly, honestly, why did you seek out religion, what would be your answer?
Be honest with yourself. Were you afraid of something?
What desire led you to castrating your own brain?


Psychedelicious chemicals such as thc or *whisper* lsd are hardly a normal empathic experience. If you were 9, never had sex or drugs of any sort, could you empathise with someone's description of a high?
Like the matrix, noone can tell you what it is or what it feels like to be High. You have to experience it for yourself.

So, If am telling you, right now, that psychedelic chemicals can lead you to actual intellectual revelations beyond anything your normal waking consciousness can "visualize" or empathically imagine, and that all the universe can be explained within the period of the hour/s your awareness goes through "ego-death", and that the divine flesh of our ancestors was nothing at all like a peice of bread and some fermented grapes, but instead a multitude of chemicals that naturally occured on the earth, that rather than induce hazy addictive euphoria, helped you learn the very actions and interpretations of your own brain, the metaprogramming you indulge on automatic most of the time, to better deal with and understand reality and death and time and love, will you seek them out?

Or will you aspire to the fear that leads you nowhere but where you've always been, right behind those eyes, questioning, insecure, waiting for the inspiration to live life exactly how you've always dreamed?

Coelho
09-06-2007, 01:15 AM
Man... i understand your point very well... as it seems that our views are much alike, in this respect.

jdmarcus59
09-06-2007, 01:48 AM
1. Have you seen Thank you for Smoking?
In the movie he makes note of a very basic understanding that no argument can be absolved through the immaturity of basic opinion or black and white social consciousness moral identity.
"If you argue correctly, you're never wrong."

So I ask you this: How can a human being understand Anything outside of it's own mind, without first completely understanding the ACT of understanding, itself, as well as the nature of it's own psychological progression, mental roadblocks, or lack of empathy?

If philosophy or religion was so "right", then why are there so many? Do you really think that so many people would worship something unless it made internal sense? What about holy books? Why would someone go around writing lies?
Everything you've read or learned in school first originated within the mind of someone else. Why would they want to lie to you? What purpose does it serve to spend hours upon hours writing falsehoods?
If I asked you directly, honestly, why did you seek out religion, what would be your answer?
Be honest with yourself. Were you afraid of something?
What desire led you to castrating your own brain?


Psychedelicious chemicals such as thc or *whisper* lsd are hardly a normal empathic experience. If you were 9, never had sex or drugs of any sort, could you empathise with someone's description of a high?
Like the matrix, noone can tell you what it is or what it feels like to be High. You have to experience it for yourself.

So, If am telling you, right now, that psychedelic chemicals can lead you to actual intellectual revelations beyond anything your normal waking consciousness can "visualize" or empathically imagine, and that all the universe can be explained within the period of the hour/s your awareness goes through "ego-death", and that the divine flesh of our ancestors was nothing at all like a peice of bread and some fermented grapes, but instead a multitude of chemicals that naturally occured on the earth, that rather than induce hazy addictive euphoria, helped you learn the very actions and interpretations of your own brain, the metaprogramming you indulge on automatic most of the time, to better deal with and understand reality and death and time and love, will you seek them out?

Or will you aspire to the fear that leads you nowhere but where you've always been, right behind those eyes, questioning, insecure, waiting for the inspiration to live life exactly how you've always dreamed?
number one Ive seen the t shirts that people were that says thanke you for not smoking, you said somthing about a movie, just so I can clearly understand the statement that you are trying to make. may I ask is that a movie you were refering to? regarding
the statement "thank you for smoking"? and if it is a movie what is the name of the movie? I would like to see it. is that the name of the movie "thank you for smoking"? it seems to be the motavating
factor behind your post, which seem interresting. so to better understand where you are going with this thread, please give me more info. Thank you I,ll look forward to mabey seeing a good
movie???:)

Pass That Shit
09-06-2007, 02:21 AM
number one Ive seen the t shirts that people were that says thanke you for not smoking, you said somthing about a movie, just so I can clearly understand the statement that you are trying to make. may I ask is that a movie you were refering to? regarding
the statement "thank you for smoking"? and if it is a movie what is the name of the movie? I would like to see it. is that the name of the movie "thank you for smoking"? it seems to be the motavating
factor behind your post, which seem interresting. so to better understand where you are going with this thread, please give me more info. Thank you I,ll look forward to mabey seeing a good
movie???:)

JD,
Are you familiar with google? Type in "thank you for smoking" and you will get all the info that you're asking about.
If you don't know how to find google, it's right here Google (http://www.google.com)! :D

I Justburn 247
09-06-2007, 02:26 AM
JD,
Are you familiar with google? Type in "thank you for smoking" and you will get all the info that you're asking about.
If you don't know how to find google, it's right here Google (http://www.google.com)! :D

or you can just tell him it's a movie.. It's a movie bro.

and yeah it's pretty funny but dry humor if you like it. great premise and almost informative..

Stay high

Pass That Shit
09-06-2007, 03:28 AM
or you can just tell him it's a movie.. It's a movie bro.

and yeah it's pretty funny but dry humor if you like it. great premise and almost informative..

Stay high

I'm not sure if you know it or not, but JD has expressed several times that he's not too experienced with computers. It wasn't dry humor. I was trying to help him find the info that he wanted. The original poster already said it was a movie, so the link was for him to learn more about it. Like who directed it, the actors, production date, etc, etc... So he can decide if he wants to watch it or not! :jointsmile:

jdmarcus59
09-06-2007, 04:03 AM
thanks guys for the help, I got sign off now and go take care of busness before this day winds down, but I,ll go and check it out in the morning, if the movie is out iam going to watch it, I saw some guy wereing that t shirt the other day, and people were standing around talking about it it got me interrested, and then when I saw this post I thought um.
Ill post back when I got info to respond to Inferius qustion........by the way Inferius why are you banned? I didnt think you could still post if you get banned? otherwise what is the perpose to being banned?..........mods?

Coelho
09-06-2007, 04:31 AM
Yeah... thats weird... i never thought that a banned user could post...
It seems much like talking with the dead... :eek:

jdmarcus59
09-06-2007, 02:37 PM
Yeah... thats weird... i never thought that a banned user could post...
It seems much like talking with the dead... :eek:

the talking dead lol, I like that. mabey that should be the name
for any of us that get banned, in fact lets start a new thing.:thumbsup:

jdmarcus59
09-06-2007, 02:41 PM
the talking dead lol, I like that. mabey that should be the name
for any of us that get banned, in fact lets start a new thing.:thumbsup:

MODS cowboy up with the answer?:)

jdmarcus59
09-06-2007, 02:59 PM
yea sounds like it is going to be a fun mind twister lol.