Have you ever activated your weed?

[Coelho]

Well... there is a lot of discussion about this subject. Several threads teaches how to increase the potency of the weed, activating (decarboxilating) it in the microwave or in the oven.
Several people (including myself) tried it and reported positive results. But there is also people who says thats only placebo effect, or even pure BS.
So, what do you think?

[slipknotpsycho]

BS.... if you could just activate weed, youw oudln' tneed to cook it in fat, you could just cook it then eat it... when it's heated (microwave, oven or by fire) it releases vapor that contains pretty much the only reason anyone even likes weed (cannabiniods, thc w/e) if there's not fat to capture it (vaporizer works on the same principal actually) it goes in the air and you don't get it, therefore you just wasted your weed..

it's placebo, period.

[4twentE]

i activate it with fire

[Coelho]

You two are fast... i didnt had even finished the poll options and you already had posted... damn...

[iNHALE.xHALE.]

well idk about the placebo thing because only after i was feelin it was i informed that the trees where activated..it wasnt like i was feelin completley shit faced, but yeah there was a noticable diff.

[RhinoGrowUK]

I activate it with my bong and my clipper !!! I wouldnt dare 'Spactivate' my smoke !!

[rocktheganj]

uhhh... what is "activating" your weed?

[Snorbel]

It's pure chemistry, it's not placebo.

THCA -> THC (decarboxylation) occurs at room temperature, but much more efficiently at hot, sub-vaporization temperatures

The efficiency of heating(activating) depends on how well the cannabis was cured and how much THCA it has before you smoke it.

The heat of the flame should cause this process to occur, but I believe it also destroys some molecules. I just can't find an article.

This is most important when making green dragon because it is the only time the cannabis is heated, whereas smoking and cooking involve heat.

[Coelho]

Well... until now, most people voted in "WTF is activating weed"... so it seems i should have explained better the subject of this poll... so there is some threads about this:

http://boards.cannabis.com/experiences/93506-how-increase-potency-mj.html
http://boards.cannabis.com/experiences/129654-activated-weed.html
http://boards.cannabis.com/experiences/129839-microwaving-your-bud.html

[BobBong]

Does that mean you're throwing everything you smoke in the microwave? I mean.. if it works so well, why not do it ALL the time?

[LIP]

Havnt tried it yet, but for now im staying with BS.

I'm going to give it a shot tonight - but i admit im expecting it to be a waste of time.

[Kai as a kite]

I don't know, I wish there were more conclusive studies or something, because there are a lot of people on both sides. I've done it before, and after sharing a bowl with my roommate, we were spaced. But I've also tried it with different weed, and it didn't really do much.

[LIP]

I think it's more placebo than anything.

[WeedyBoyWonder]

It's not a placebo IMO, because it's backed up with scientific evidence that its converting THCA into THC or someting like that. If people would try it before knocking it, then that would be good considering we should all be open minded people considering this is a Cannabis forum and we oppress the worlds haters.

I found it gave me much more of a head high. It made the high feel much 'cleaner', lighter and generally not so groggy after a session.

I put pretty much all of my weed in the oven now.

[imitator]

I notice the difference between my mic'ed bud and my non-mic'ed bud. I mic about 3/4 of my bud, and leave the other 1/4O alone just so I can enjoy the original taste and high from the stuff, and the difference is notable for sure.

It works best with lower grade weed, as the properly cured high quality stuff has already done the majority of the THCA -> THC conversion. I can take low end mids and get wrecked out of my mind on a single bowl, when it normally takes me 5-6 bowls to get that high. But high end stuff just seems slightly different, not alot, but noticable because the high changes slightly.

And we ruled out the placebo effect in my apartment because we would take turns with bowl packing on putting in mic'ed or non-mic'ed weed without letting the others know which it is, and seeing if the others noticed or got higher, and without fail every time, they were able to tell if it was mic'ed or not.

[imitator]

Havnt tried it yet, but for now im staying with BS.

I'm going to give it a shot tonight - but i admit im expecting it to be a waste of time.

I thought the same thing, but was curious and tried it. I figured I was going to feel like an idiot who just wasted weed in a microwave, but was pleasantly suprised when I couldnt get off the couch for two hours off of a bowl of mids.

It will dry up your weed some more, obviously, so it burns quicker, but the smoke is a bit smoother. I can notice a difference in the taste between mic'ed and non-mic'ed sometimes, but its very subtle, and I cant always tell the difference taste wise.

[nightlight]

BS.... if you could just activate weed, youw oudln' tneed to cook it in fat, you could just cook it then eat it... when it's heated (microwave, oven or by fire) it releases vapor that contains pretty much the only reason anyone even likes weed (cannabiniods, thc w/e) if there's not fat to capture it (vaporizer works on the same principal actually) it goes in the air and you don't get it, therefore you just wasted your weed..

it's placebo, period.

actually when you heat it at a temperature lower than that which the thc and cannabinoids vaporize for a certain period of time it transforms alot of the non psychoactive thc into psychoactive thc. i have done this many times and had great results each time. the microwave is iffy, but throw your bud in the oven for 10 minutes at like 160 degrees you are set.

[silkyblue]

Ive been activating my own stash
for medicinal purposes now for 7 approx. years,

no difference in studies done in my lab
for apothecarys and anecdotal remedys

:jointsmile:

[olliegrow]

its works perfect for me almost evey time, put some herb on paper, stick into microwave for about 20 seconds then smoke. I notice right away it smokes better and its stronger, goes stright to the head like a gong...lol...try it and see for yourself, works on shwag and high grade but better when a little fresh.

[imitator]

actually when you heat it at a temperature lower than that which the thc and cannabinoids vaporize for a certain period of time it transforms alot of the non psychoactive thc into psychoactive thc. i have done this many times and had great results each time. the microwave is iffy, but throw your bud in the oven for 10 minutes at like 160 degrees you are set.

Ive done the oven thing, and it definitely changes the smell and taste some, almost fruity flavored with my stuff.

The microwave isnt too bad, Ive found that 20-30 seconds per 1-2 bowls works really well.

[LIP]

I've tried it, and to me, no differnce. It actually seemed like harsher smoke for me.

I didnt expect it to work - and it didnt.

Not for me, that's for sure.

[imitator]

I've tried it, and to me, no differnce. It actually seemed like harsher smoke for me.

I didnt expect it to work - and it didnt.

Not for me, that's for sure.

Just curious, you normally smoke highs right?

[LIP]

Just curious, you normally smoke highs right?

High's in what context? High grade weed, or sativa dominant?

[slipknotpsycho]

actually when you heat it at a temperature lower than that which the thc and cannabinoids vaporize for a certain period of time it transforms alot of the non psychoactive thc into psychoactive thc. i have done this many times and had great results each time. the microwave is iffy, but throw your bud in the oven for 10 minutes at like 160 degrees you are set.

well that would explain our diffrencing in opinion, i was assuming yal were talking about 'activating it' at the same tempature as you would use to vaporize bud or cook with it....

i still don't think it'd really work (or make much of a diffrence), but if it's cooked at lower tempatures, it's alot more plausible..

[imitator]

High's in what context? High grade weed, or sativa dominant?

High grade weed.

Ive noticed the effects were much less noticable in high quality weed. I would imagine its because they cure it alot better, which means the conversion of THCA -> THC has already taken place to a large extent.

I have noticed a large difference when you are doing it to mids or lows, I have actually gotten completely wrecked off of two bowls of lows that were mic'ed, and most times I quit smoking out of boredom before I get that high on lows.

[slipknotpsycho]

High grade weed.

Ive noticed the effects were much less noticable in high quality weed. I would imagine its because they cure it alot better, which means the conversion of THCA -> THC has already taken place to a large extent.

I have noticed a large difference when you are doing it to mids or lows, I have actually gotten completely wrecked off of two bowls of lows that were mic'ed, and most times I quit smoking out of boredom before I get that high on lows.

well since i all i ever get are high-schwagg to low mids, i'll do my experimenting the next time i get some bud.. i shall post my results.

[Jouryokujin]

It's not a placebo effect, but if your bud is already well-cured this will do nothing.

[r0k]

BS.... if you could just activate weed, youw oudln' tneed to cook it in fat, you could just cook it then eat it... when it's heated (microwave, oven or by fire) it releases vapor that contains pretty much the only reason anyone even likes weed (cannabiniods, thc w/e) if there's not fat to capture it (vaporizer works on the same principal actually) it goes in the air and you don't get it, therefore you just wasted your weed..

it's placebo, period.

You're off on that one, buddy. When THC is heated up in the oven, it transfers vapors or whatever into the peanut butter. That's why it has to be organic peanut butter..

[slipknotpsycho]

You're off on that one, buddy. When THC is heated up in the oven, it transfers vapors or whatever into the peanut butter. That's why it has to be organic peanut butter..

er... and it has to be organic peanut butter why??? becuase of it's high fat content.... exactly what i said.

[nightlight]

well that would explain our diffrencing in opinion, i was assuming yal were talking about 'activating it' at the same tempature as you would use to vaporize bud or cook with it....

i still don't think it'd really work (or make much of a diffrence), but if it's cooked at lower tempatures, it's alot more plausible..

you smoke mostly mids right? i would strongly suggest this if that is the case.

[Gothen]

Okay, well, my take on this is somewhat complicated. I don't at ALL believe I'm smarter than anyone, but just through my course in psychology we've been learning about how studies are actually conducted. After reading two of the three posted threads, results are clearly inconclusive, in the most conclusive ways.

Now, what all these threads have done...is create CHAOS! Now, everyone who is skeptical will try it with skepticism in mind; those who have read the testimonies of those who say, "It worked! It is amazing!" will go into with a bias, as well, thinking, already, that it will work for them. So the people who don't believe it works, will have it not work for them, simply through the power of their brain. Same goes for those who think it will work.

I think, personally, that it may work, HOWEVER I also believe that it may not work. What I'm saying is, until there is actual scientific study done on the matter, we'll probably never EVER know whether this really works or not. The chances of THAT happening is...well...I don't think there are any chances of that happening, =(.

Personally, I took a small nugg, I microwaved (because I've never purchased or needed tinfoil) for 30 seconds, after breaking it up, of course. No real smell at all, and no real difference in the smell or taste of the weed. In terms of effects, I was highly skeptical going into this experiment because of my past knowledge, or heresay, perhaps, that microwaving cannabis only destroys THC content. But since I just bought a quad, I figured a nuggie wouldn't hurt. I think that...it may actually have made me more high. I mean...

I'm biased, basically. I didn't want it to work, but...I think it might have made me a little more high.

[slipknotpsycho]

you smoke mostly mids right? i would strongly suggest this if that is the case.

yup and like i said, i'ma try it next time i get the chance.

[MadSativa]

its works perfect for me almost evey time, put some herb on paper, stick into microwave for about 20 seconds then smoke. I notice right away it smokes better and its stronger, goes stright to the head like a gong...lol...try it and see for yourself, works on shwag and high grade but better when a little fresh.

I agree bro, but I have never used the micro, heres instructions it has been posted already but I realy think every one should try this. Like it says some try smoking like this and never smoke any other way after. In other words they think not activating your herb is a waste of herb, I know its is crazey but I know alot of people from Amsterdam, Vancouver who are smoking the dankyest herbs in the world all day every day and they think like this????? Try it mabey you too will change the way you soke herb. I definitly notice a differance, weather potency has increased I dont know.

blog.myspace.com/MadSativa (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=157279645&blogID=264776952)

[OZO]

You know Iâ??m activating! :thumbsup:

I have been doing this for years. If I have enough time I will always throw some buds in the oven.

[olliegrow]

IT WORKS!! But mostly with fresher budz, shwag and HG has to be a little mosit still in order to work. Ive tried it multiple times with old brown dry stuff and didnt get much change. I use a microwave for about 20-21 seconds on high. Oven works but takes me too long. Try it cant hurt but dont burn your budz..peace

[Coelho]

Well... there is some time since the last person voted, so i think most people already voted, and so i can analise the results.

Most people (21/62) didnt know what is activing (decarboxilating) the weed.

From that ones who actually did make the experiment, there were:
7 (36.8%) that had excellent results and went far higher.
7 (36.8%) that reported noticeable difference in the high.
5 (26.4%) that percieved no difference.

This process of decarboxilation works well in schwag/mids or fresh harvested bud, but makes small difference to high quality or well-cured bud. That would explain why some people reported no difference, while some people reported great increase in the high.

Also, this process increases only the amount of THC, and not the CBD. As the THC is which causes the sativa "high" effects, and the CBD which causes the indica "stone" effects, probably the ones who reported that the high were different, but not stronger were the ones who smoke indica ones.
A good indica have a large amount of CBD, and few THC. Decarboxilating it will result in an increase of the amount of THC, thus increasing the sativa-like character of the weed, changing the kind of the high, which was initially indica-like.

I think this results can be considered a "scientific" (under the limited conditions of a small number of votes) proof of the efficience of the method. It works, under the apropriate conditions.

If you did make the experiment yourself, please tell how it was!
And happy activating! :thumbsup::rastasmoke::jointsmile::stoned:

[WeedyBoyWonder]

This process of decarboxilation works well in schwag/mids or fresh harvested bud, but makes small difference to high quality or well-cured bud. That would explain why some people reported no difference, while some people reported great increase in the high.

Also, this process increases only the amount of THC, and not the CBD. As the THC is which causes the sativa "high" effects, and the CBD which causes the indica "stone" effects, probably the ones who reported that the high were different, but not stronger were the ones who smoke indica ones.
A good indica have a large amount of CBD, and few THC. Decarboxilating it will result in an increase of the amount of THC, thus increasing the sativa-like character of the weed, changing the kind of the high, which was initially indica-like.

I back that 100%, and some more.

EDIT* Oh yea, thanks again for introducing this to me

[blunt smoker]

Well... there is a lot of discussion about this subject. Several threads teaches how to increase the potency of the weed, activating (decarboxilating) it in the microwave or in the oven.
Several people (including myself) tried it and reported positive results. But there is also people who says thats only placebo effect, or even pure BS.
So, what do you think?

I agree that it is ONLY the placebo effect. A lot of things today are believed due to the placebo rule. Though it does not hurt to have a placebo.

Studies show that a placebo actually does increase the effect of a specific substance (weed being this case). This is so because since you are believing the substance's effect is being increased, it usually does. :pimp:

SO, even though the microwave example is probably a placebo.. who cares? It'll still increase the effectiveness of the THC, but ONLY if you believe it is.

Toke on tokers, toke on.

[Coelho]

It'll still increase the effectiveness of the THC, but ONLY if you believe it is.

Well... there is a lot of people who believed that it would not work, but did make the experiment anyway, and reported positive results. I dont think it fits in the definition of "placebo"...


EDIT* Oh yea, thanks again for introducing this to me

You are welcome! :thumbsup: Keep going higher and higher! :stoned::rastasmoke::jointsmile::abduct:

[OZO]

I agree that it is ONLY the placebo effect. A lot of things today are believed due to the placebo rule. Though it does not hurt to have a placebo.

Studies show that a placebo actually does increase the effect of a specific substance (weed being this case). This is so because since you are believing the substance's effect is being increased, it usually does. :pimp:

SO, even though the microwave example is probably a placebo.. who cares? It'll still increase the effectiveness of the THC, but ONLY if you believe it is.

Toke on tokers, toke on.

If it is placebo then it does not increase THC. In this case it is not placebo I donâ??t have to believe it works because chemistry makes it work. Some of us are long time smokers and can easily tell if this works or not especially when tolerance is high. The only reason people doubt this method is because they donâ??t understand it.

[mfqr]

If it is placebo then it does not increase THC. In this case it is not placebo I donâ??t have to believe it works because chemistry makes it work. Some of us are long time smokers and can easily tell if this works or not especially when tolerance is high. The only reason people doubt this method is because they donâ??t understand it.

Well said.

[blunt smoker]

If it is placebo then it does not increase THC. In this case it is not placebo I donâ??t have to believe it works because chemistry makes it work. Some of us are long time smokers and can easily tell if this works or not especially when tolerance is high. The only reason people doubt this method is because they donâ??t understand it.

I'm not saying it is actually increasing the THC, but one is believing that it is.

[blunt smoker]

Well... there is a lot of people who believed that it would not work, but did make the experiment anyway, and reported positive results. I dont think it fits in the definition of "placebo"...

That's a different story.

[WeedyBoyWonder]

I agree that it is ONLY the placebo effect. A lot of things today are believed due to the placebo rule. Though it does not hurt to have a placebo.

Studies show that a placebo actually does increase the effect of a specific substance (weed being this case). This is so because since you are believing the substance's effect is being increased, it usually does. :pimp:

SO, even though the microwave example is probably a placebo.. who cares? It'll still increase the effectiveness of the THC, but ONLY if you believe it is.

Toke on tokers, toke on.


I tried putting my bud in the OVEN, with a totally open mind. I didn't hope and want it to work so badly the high I had after smoking was a "placebo", thats bollocks. If it didn't work, I wouldn't have cared either way, I just wanted to try it.
Besides the fact it has scientific stuff backing it up, like the conversion of THCA (a non psychoactive substance) to THC (a psychoactive substance)... clear as day to me that this does actually work.

[CheeseOnToast]

So wheres all of the "science" coming from? credible links please. I want to read through every equation , all the theory, every page, from an author who actually knows what they are doing.

[Gothen]

So wheres all of the "science" coming from? credible links please. I want to read through every equation , all the theory, every page, from an author who actually knows what they are doing.


Exactly! Thats the way I feel about it. There is absolutely no scientific evidence to prove any of this, and the fact that people all over these topics are just spouting "conversion of THCA" to "THC" is, to use an English term, complete BOLLOCKS! (...did I spell that right??)

[imitator]

Exactly! Thats the way I feel about it. There is absolutely no scientific evidence to prove any of this, and the fact that people all over these topics are just spouting "conversion of THCA" to "THC" is, to use an English term, complete BOLLOCKS! (...did I spell that right??)

I dont have the science behind it, but I do have personal experience and the fact that everyone I have introduced to this has started smoking their bud that way all the time.

Have you tried it yet? Just a bowl of some mids that you normally smoke, microwaved? If not, how do you know it doesnt work?

Like I said, I cant provide you with scientific evidence, others might... but how about the "One Bowl Challenge"? Try a bowl microwaved for 25 seconds, and smoke it, and see if you notice anything.

Considering that you are a neighsayer, the placebo effect shouldnt really be a problem, and in the end, whats the worst that happens? You wasted all of 25 seconds to microwave a bowl's worth of weed, and you get to come back here and say that everyone was wrong.... you cant really lose on that challenge.

[CheeseOnToast]

haha, yes, thats how you spell bollocks :P

Someone probably wondered if he could get people to nuke their bud by telling them it increases potency. Then one person has believed it worked because they wanted to believe it, and confirmed it. And now we have a chain of people saying it works.

Anyone can throw a fancy scientific term into a sentence and say it works. So far there hasn't been a link to anywhere that explains this "transformation", and a vague summary at best.

Once someone gives me a paper on the process from a credible author ill consider believing it, maybe even trying it.

[imitator]

haha, yes, thats how you spell bollocks :P

Someone probably wondered if he could get people to nuke their bud by telling them it increases potency. Then one person has believed it worked because they wanted to believe it, and confirmed it. And now we have a chain of people saying it works.

Anyone can throw a fancy scientific term into a sentence and say it works. So far there hasn't been a link to anywhere that explains this "transformation", and a vague summary at best.

Once someone gives me a paper on the process from a credible author ill consider believing it, maybe even trying it.

While that seems a bit silly to refuse to try something so simple and harmless, thats your choice, and more power to you man.

Ill light up a nuked bowl tonight in your place, because in the end, it doesnt matter how you do it, as long as you have fun while you are doing it. :thumbsup:

[CheeseOnToast]

btw is that a baby-burger in your avatar?

[imitator]

Its a baby sub-sandwich.

Two week old baby too, some of the most tender baby money can buy!

[CheeseOnToast]

Thinking about it, any changes would be much more noticeable if done with hash. As hash contains more THC, it also contains more THC-A. This would mean that the jump in THC content would be much greater.

Someone should put some hash in the oven 122F for 8 minutes or 200F for 5 minutes , and then compare it with the un-"activated" hash.

This would produce a more definitive result, for those who are looking for one.

[LIP]

Thinking about it, any changes would be much more noticeable if done with hash. As hash contains more THC, it also contains more THC-A. This would mean that the jump in THC content would be much greater.

Someone should put some hash in the oven 122F for 8 minutes or 200F for 5 minutes , and then compare it with the un-"activated" hash.

This would produce a more definitive result, for those who are looking for one.

You've got more chance of just vaping it away. Personally i'd NEVER try with hash. EVER.

[CheeseOnToast]

You've got more chance of just vaping it away. Personally i'd NEVER try with hash. EVER.
not at 122F, thats nowhere near vaping point.

[LIP]

not at 122F, thats nowhere near vaping point.

My bad. I thought i saw C.

I still wouldnt try it with hash though.

And when i tried it with bud it did nothing in the slightest - because it was cured. But people shouldnt be buying fresh bud in the first place - unless they want to be ripped off.

[imitator]

My bad. I thought i saw C.

I still wouldnt try it with hash though.

And when i tried it with bud it did nothing in the slightest - because it was cured. But people shouldnt be buying fresh bud in the first place - unless they want to be ripped off.

There is a difference between cured, and properly cured.

Most mids arent taken care of near as nice as high quality bud, so its not cured to its full potential.

[LIP]

There is a difference between cured, and properly cured.

Most mids arent taken care of near as nice as high quality bud, so its not cured to its full potential.

It's a shame it's on the market. Thats supple and demand for you though. No, actually, it's JUST prohibition. If it wasnt illegal people wouldnt be able to make a quick buck from it.

[imitator]

I had some asshole that I shared this with start selling his stuff he got as higher quality then it was, because he microwaved it.

I promptly told every one of his customers what he was doing, and how to do it, and solved that problem right there.

It takes all kinds, and I can honestly see people not properly curing the bud if they are mass producing medium quality things, and trying to get it out on the market quickly.

[Coelho]

Thinking about it, any changes would be much more noticeable if done with hash. As hash contains more THC, it also contains more THC-A. This would mean that the jump in THC content would be much greater.

Someone should put some hash in the oven 122F for 8 minutes or 200F for 5 minutes , and then compare it with the un-"activated" hash.

This would produce a more definitive result, for those who are looking for one.

Well... i think it may not work. If you mean hash oil, which is made extracting the resin from the weed with some suitable solvent (butane, ether, acetone, alcohol, etc), it wont work because the THCa (which is transformed in THC by decarboxilation) is NOT soluble in that solvents. So, when you extract the resin, the THCa remain in the plant material.

(from Robert A. Nelson: Hemp Husbandry ~ Cannabinoid Chemistry ~ Extraction (Ch 6) (http://www.rexresearch.com/hhusb/hh6thc.htm#HH62))

Cannabis must be dried before it is extracted, because it is not possible to remove more than 50% of the cannabinoids from fresh material. THC-Acid is difficult to extract. If you plan to convert the THCA to THC, the plant material should be thoroughly decarboxylated by heating it under nitrogen at 105° C for 1 hour before performing a solvent extraction.

Thats why the weed is decarboxilated before extracting the THC , as you can read in the Green Dragon recipe, for example.

Anyway, i myself use a similar process in my hash oil. I put it into a very small glass with boiling water, and heat it for 2-3 hours, adding water to keeping the level the same, when the water evaporates.
The reaction which occurs in this case is not decarboxilation, but isomerization. The CBD (which produces the indica stone) is isomerized to THC (which produces sativa high). As this reaction is harder to happen, it needs more time to be complete.

And, for everybody who asked for some "scientifical evidence"... there is the link from where i learned this processes:

Robert A. Nelson: Hemp Husbandry ~ Cannabinoid Chemistry ~ Isomerization (Ch 6) (http://www.rexresearch.com/hhusb/hh6thc.htm#HH63)

Enjoy, and happy activating! :thumbsup::rastasmoke::stoned:

[Coelho]

BUMP for this thread! Always there is new members, and they should know this wonderful technique... :stoned:

[trainwreck530]

bro what are u talking about man herb is already activated. im not sure what ur talking about. ive hit the vap a few times.

bummer deal on 'activating' or lacing bud. :( if youre smoking dank u shouldnt have to put stuff in ur nugs, keep it kind


DONNY:stoned:

[imitator]

I think you didnt take the time to really read this thread trainwreck.

The "activation" process is really not much more then properly curing the bud you are smoking. Its part of the reason why high quality bud doesnt get near as much effect from the process as mids and lows do.

The process's that are happening in the microwave/oven are the same things that happen over a longer period of time while curing your bud. People dont take the time to properly cure mids and low's, therefore, you can increase their potency by this method.

You arent putting anything into the weed. You are initiating a chemical reaction, which results in THCa being coverted into THC.

I would recommend to you that which I have said to everyone else... give it a try. You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain. Right now you are disregarding it without any proof that it wont work. So give it a try, and if it doesnt work, then you have the proof you need, if it does work, then you just found an incredible technique for use on mids and lows.

[Non]

no it does something to the weed. the heat probably changes the structure of the thc chemically, giving a different high. a more 'stony' high maybe.

[Gothen]

Heeyyy, I had to vote again; I tried it again, and with completely different results.

See, the cannabis I was using before was some high mids, so the effects weren't much different.

However, tonight I tried it with much different weed; it was complete shit weed, almost brown reggs that didn't even get me high. I was bored and decided to just throw it in the oven because I didn't really think anything was going to get me high until Tuesday when I get paid and can buy some more middies. However...I'm high now. Real high, off of two hits of that regg weed that I was smoking BOWLS of before to get a buzz.

I think it does work now, even though I don't want to believe it does, I have to admit I'm actually HIGH now.

[GoldenFerret]

ive activated my weed, sort of as a trial around a month back. just to see. i used some mids, i had an ounce total, but put 2grams in to use for a blunt. i used the microwave. in order to do the experiment well, i microwaved 2 grams and rolled a blunt. the day before, with the same ounce, i just rolled a blunt, didnt "activate it at all". my smoke buddys did not know about activation, or that i had done anything to the second blunt. the non activated blunt, after bieng smoked, all three of us were high, but just a normal mids high, nothing special. when i brought out the next blunt, of the activated mids the next day, and smoked it, all three of us were blasted off of our asses, and we smoke a 40 bag of mids (7.1grams) in a day easy. easily smoke over an ounce of mids a week. well, i figured i might have a placebo effect because i knew what i had done to the weed, but my two friends, said they were 1'st time high again. i truely believe it works, and works well. try it, even if its just a bowls worth, to see for yourself!

[Chaotixxx]

I did this twice since reading this thread. The first time I sat there in the dark chewing gum for 2 hours. Second I dont even remember. Definitely made these middies better.

[trainwreck530]

ok im a little confused. heat deteriorates THC. so how does this work? you said something about curing.

im glad to see you guys arent lacing your shit :thumbsup: haahaha!!

this interests me. sure, i smoke really KIND bud. but i also buy 'outdoor' midgrade. its cheaper. dont get me wrong its stony, just not killer. so id like 2 learn more. peace


DONNY:stoned:

[Coelho]

Depends of the amount of heat, and the time you heat it. Heating it for much time (several hours), or too much (more than 200C or 392F), will indeed destroy some thc.
But, heating it for small periods of time, of at "low" (<350F) temperatures wont do any harm to it.
And, about the curing: the process of curing allows the THCA to be transformed in THC naturally. But it takes a long time, so we make it faster heating the weed.
Note that high-grade weed, or well-cured weed will not have its potency much increased by this process, as its already cured. But, with mids, or homegrown, this process works wonders!
Try it, and im sure you will enjoy it. And good luck! :thumbsup:

[Perp]

All decarboxylation means is drying and curing. That's why it is most noticeable with fresh/wet weed. Decarboxylation occurs naturally as you dry your weed. You can heat it up if you want to decarboxylate faster.

This quote is from Ed Rosenthal and can be found here:
Decarboxylation (http://cannabisculture.com/articles/2794.html)


Marijuana produces THCA, an acid with the carboxylic group (COOH) attached. In its acid form, THC is not very active. It is only when the carboxyl group is removed that THC becomes psychoactive. When marijuana is smoked, the THC behind the hot spot is vaporized as the hot air from the burn is drawn through the joint or pipe bowl to the unburned material. The liquid THC and other cannabinoids have a boiling point of between 180-200° C (355-392° F). Before they turn gaseous, at around 106° C (220° F), the carboxyl group is released from the molecule as carbon dioxide and water vapor.

You will be extracting the THC using low heat in the commercially made Coldfinger Extractor. (They have a very interesting online catalog at *edited out commercial site*). The THC will not reach a temperature in which decarboxylation takes place. However, if you plan to vaporize or smoke the extract decarboxylation will take place as the oil is used.

However, it is easy to make sure all the THC is decarboxylated and is at full strength before it is extracted. Although decarboxylation takes place rapidly at 106° C, it proceeds at a more gradual pace by placing the cannabis in a room with low relative humidity and room temperature. As the temperature rises, the rate of decarboxylation increases.

Cannabis can also be placed in a food dehydrator to remove the carboxyl group. Although the heat in the food dehydrator doesn't rise to 106° C, the temperature is warm enough to promote drying and the release of the water and CO2. When the marijuana is crispy and brittle you can be assured that the carboxyl group has been removed from the cannabinoids and they are ready for extraction or removal from the plant material.

Here's some more:
Frequently asked questions (http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/faq/12-heating.htm)


# Franjo Grotenhermen
In the plant the cannabinoids exist mainly in their carboxylic forms as cannabinoid acids. However, the phenolic form of THC is responsible for the psychotropic and the most medicinal effects. Decarboxylation (separation of CO2) to the phenolic form occurs readily over time, upon heating or under alkaline conditions.
The ratio of THC acids (THCA) to phenolic THC has been reported to range between 2:1 (Africa) and >20:1 (Switzerland) in leaves and flowers of Cannabis sativa. In plants grown in Middle Europe (United Kingdom) from Moroccan, Sri Lankan and Zambian seed stocks the THCA/THC ratio was 17:1 compared with 2:1 in the plants from the original areas (Africa, Asia). In hashish (cannabis resin) the THCA/THC ratio was reported to range between 6.1:1 and 0.5:1, the latter in hashish from India. Thus, the percentage of phenolic THC of all THC in cannabis products varied between less than 5% in cannabis leaves grown in Switzerland up to 65% in hashish from India.
Cannabis products with a high content of phenolic THC (e.g. hashish) may be very potent without heating, but usually the potency of cannabis products is considerably increased with heating (smoking, cooking).
Modified according to: Grotenhermen F. Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of cannabinoids. Clinical Pharmacokinetics 2001, in press.

[TheBubbler]

it definatly works. just put it in the microwave for 10 seconds then in the freezer for 15, itll come out bone dry, and you will get more high cause after it dries out it should bust up pretty fat. definatly gets more out of your weed if its damp at all

[Gundari]

thumbs up to this thread, i don't have anything to try it with at the moment, but i plan to give it a try in the future.

[matthiasj]

I'm going to try putting some in the oven in a little bit to test it out. I few weeks ago i put some in the microwave and i think it made me higher, more of a "up" high, not so down and stoned. I'll post back soon

[worm]

I've been hitting bowls all day today (woo sunday) and this time I decided what the hell, let's throw it in the microwave for 15 seconds first. If I was judging based on this test only it definitely works. Because I'm really baked, and I've been smoking this same sized bowl all day. Haven't been this high yet.

[kathman]

When its in the microwave does it stink it out? Thinking of trying this tomorow =D

[TheDefiler]

Someone probably wondered if he could get people to nuke their bud by telling them it increases potency. Then one person has believed it worked because they wanted to believe it, and confirmed it. And now we have a chain of people saying it works.

Anyone can throw a fancy scientific term into a sentence and say it works. So far there hasn't been a link to anywhere that explains this "transformation", and a vague summary at best.

Once someone gives me a paper on the process from a credible author ill consider believing it, maybe even trying it.

Here's some science for u....from Cannabis Culture magazine!

Decarboxylation (http://cannabisculture.com/articles/2794.html)