Ron Paul: Iran Attack On Within A Year

[pisshead]

and i'm willing to bet they get their 'opportunity' just when they need it...


Ron Paul: Iran Attack On Within A Year
Presidential candidate says Neo-Cons waiting for right opportunity Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet (http://prisonplanet.com/index.html)
Tuesday, August 28, 2007

Presidential candidate Ron Paul believes that an attack on Iran is highly likely within a year and that the Bush administration is simply waiting for the right opportunity, or event on which to blame Iran, before launching the assault.
"If I were a betting man I would bet that they will attack Iran before the end of this administration, which means in the next year or so," the Congressman told the Alex Jones Show today.
"The plans have been laid just like the plans were laid to go into Iraq a long time before they did but they had to wait for the right opportunity."

"The radical Neo-Cons are still there - they may have been diminished a little bit but they're still very very influential and very very powerful and they have the President's ear so I think they're just laying the plans, waiting for the opportunity," said Paul.

" I don't think the opportunity presents itself right now, I don't think we're gonna wake up tomorrow morning and have it happen unless they can blame the Iranians for something else - of course they're setting the stage for that by declaring that their Guard unit over there is a terrorist organization, so anything now is possible and they'll blame it on the Iranians and and make that excuse."
The Presidential candidate said he had "Talked to some military people and historians who knew the region," and they they told him "it would be the most disastrous thing we could do for our own sake," jeopardizing the lives of U.S. troops in Iraq and trapping them from getting out of the Persian Gulf.

Rhetoric regarding a potential military attack on Iran has heated again over the past few days, and President Bush himself stoked the flames further today when he warned of the risk of a "nuclear holocaust" (http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited/feeds/afx/2007/08/28/afx4061422.html) if the country was allowed to acquire nuclear capability.
In a speech Monday (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/280807Sarkozy.htm), French President Nicolas Sarkozy said that a diplomatic push by the world's powers to rein in Tehran's nuclear program was the only alternative to "an Iranian bomb or the bombing of Iran."
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad today stated that a U.S. attack on Iran was "impossible" (http://www.spacewar.com/2006/070828142614.mm009ask.html) due to U.S. troops being tied down in Afghanistan and Iraq. He also dismissed Sarkozy's warning (http://www.spacewar.com/2006/070828145238.sswi1sk2.html), calling the French premiere "inexperienced" and labeling his comments as purely "for the consumption of his inner circles."

[jamstigator]

I wouldn't be shocked if somebody starts dropping some big bombs on Iran. They are, after all, flouting international law and agreements. I'm pretty sure you're *supposed* to be punished when you do that, so that other countries don't start flouting international law and agreements too, causing the whole world to collapse into lawless chaos and engender a worldwide race for nuclear weapons.

They kinda seem to be asking for it, thumbing their nose at the rest of the world, giving international law the finger. You do that enough and yeah, you're likely gonna get a smackdown. Best to give 'em that smackdown *before* they have armed themselves with nuclear weapons, especially with that crazy mofo they have for their spokesman. I guess we could wait until they have nuclear weapons, but that would seem unwise to me.

[sam44]

fo real. ron paul is the bomb. im working my ass off on his campaign all the way to election day.

[jakez]

I wouldn't be shocked if somebody starts dropping some big bombs on Iran. They are, after all, flouting international law and agreements. I'm pretty sure you're *supposed* to be punished when you do that, so that other countries don't start flouting international law and agreements too, causing the whole world to collapse into lawless chaos and engender a worldwide race for nuclear weapons.

They kinda seem to be asking for it, thumbing their nose at the rest of the world, giving international law the finger. You do that enough and yeah, you're likely gonna get a smackdown. Best to give 'em that smackdown *before* they have armed themselves with nuclear weapons, especially with that crazy mofo they have for their spokesman. I guess we could wait until they have nuclear weapons, but that would seem unwise to me.

lmfao, your head is so far up your ass dude, don't forget the fact that we went to war with Iraq illegally, WE ARE THE ONES THUMBING THEIR NOSE AT THE REST OF THE WORLD. We shouldn't have even started all this shit you imbecile.

WE LIVE EVERY DAY IN THIS LAWLESS CHAOS YOU SPEAK OF, do you not see all of these politicians ignoring the law and lying and talking around the truth?

[eg420ne]

[quote=jamstigator]I wouldn't be shocked if somebody starts dropping some big bombs on Iran. They are, after all, flouting international law and agreements. I'm pretty sure you're *supposed* to be punished when you do that, so that other countries don't start flouting international law and agreements too, causing the whole world to collapse into lawless chaos and engender a worldwide race for nuclear weapons.
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WoW so the US pretty much can do what they want, eh...please put your head up to the FOXNEWS screen and yell USAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSUASUSAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSASUASUS A

[jamstigator]

I'm pretty sure the word 'international' means something like 'countries other than the U.S'. Need a dictionary? They're free online, ya know.

And yes, Iraq was obviously a mistake based on a lie - that they had weapons of mass destruction, yada yada. Why are you comparing that to IRAN? Iran *is* working on nuclear weapons and refuses to comply with international law. There is no debate about that; they admit it openly and freely. Well, they deny that it's *weapons* they're developing but you'd have to be a child to believe that, especially in light of how much information they are refusing to provide about their activities. If it's all peaceful, why refuse *any* information? In any case, you're comparing apples and oranges.

BTW, I'm a liberal; I don't watch much FAUX news, if any. Well, occasionally, for a laugh or two. But I'm not possessed of such low intelligence that I'd confuse Iraq and Iran. Yes, there's only one letter different in the names, which seems to be about as far as your brains are capable of going, but mine works a little better than that.

[eg420ne]

havent you'd heard USA is the God of the World...im sick and tired of theses criminals running rampant destorying our country and the world, they need to be stopped,. thanks to our founding fathers they put the right to bear arms just for times like this, its gonna happen sooner or later...

[eg420ne]

I'm pretty sure the word 'international' means something like 'countries other than the U.S'. Need a dictionary? They're free online, ya know.

And yes, Iraq was obviously a mistake based on a lie - that they had weapons of mass destruction, yada yada. Why are you comparing that to IRAN? Iran *is* working on nuclear weapons and refuses to comply with international law. There is no debate about that; they admit it openly and freely. So, you're comparing apples and oranges.

BTW, I'm a liberal; I don't watch much FAUX news, if any. Well, occasionally, for a laugh or two. But I'm not possessed of such low intelligence that I'd confuse Iraq and Iran. Yes, there's only one letter different in the names, which seems to be about as far as your brains are capable of going, but mine works a little better than that.
No debate abou that LOL....saids who the US and Israel, after ALLLLLL the lies our government said about IRAQ can we beLIEve anything else they say....can we, fuckin NO! NO! No! NO!.....get it

[eg420ne]

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And yes, Iraq was obviously a mistake based on a lie - that they had weapons of mass destruction, yada yada. Why are you comparing that to IRAN? Iran *is* working on nuclear weapons and refuses to comply with international law. There is no debate about that; they admit it openly and freely. Well, they deny that it's *weapons* they're developing but you'd have to be a child to believe that, especially in light of how much information they are refusing to provide about their activities. If it's all peaceful, why refuse *any* information? In any case, you're comparing apples and oranges.

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what a mess:wtf: sigh

[jamstigator]

So, just so I understand you guys, you're saying that should Iran (or whoever) gain nuclear weapons, regardless of how insane their leaders may seem, and how full of hatred for others, that this isn't a problem and that everything is hunky dory in that scenario? Your brainwaves are flatlining if you're so gung-ho on every crazy wacko in the world having nuclear weapons. Unless...are you Iranian? At least that'd explain your stance on wanting a self-proclaimed enemy to get some beefier weapons to use on us. Not to mention your lack of ability to speak rudimentary English.

BTW, what did we start with Iran? You mean when we allowed some of our people to be kidnapped by them and held for over a year? Blaming the victims there, aren't you? Or do you mean when they used a Hezbollah proxy to kill a couple hundred of our soldiers? We started that, by being blown up? Uh, okay, if you say so, then it must be right.

Hey, guys! S-C-H-O-O-L. You both must have missed a hell of a lot of it. Can't you at least work a little harder at *faking* an education? Really, it will help significantly in cutting down the number of folks who call you morons if you can at least fake it.

[eg420ne]

Mossadeq----- first and foremost, im a republican christain neo-con conservative, Torog and I go to mass every sunday.....alright thats out of the way, you dont remember the CIA & Mossadeq incident, maybe not since you're arguing for more wars, maybe youd outta look it up first...go-ahead, then we can argue for more WARS, i hope you served time= cause if not then im sending you to your nearest army req services...

[eg420ne]

So, just so I understand you guys, you're saying that should Iran (or whoever) gain nuclear weapons, regardless of how insane their leaders may seem, and how full of hatred for others, that this isn't a problem and that everything is hunky dory in that scenario? Your brainwaves are flatlining if you're so gung-ho on every crazy wacko in the world having nuclear weapons. Unless...are you Iranian? At least that'd explain your stance on wanting a self-proclaimed enemy to get some beefier weapons to use on us. Not to mention your lack of ability to speak rudimentary English.

BTW, what did we start with Iran? You mean when we allowed some of our people to be kidnapped by them and held for over a year? Blaming the victims there, aren't you? Or do you mean when they used a Hezbollah proxy to kill a couple hundred of our soldiers? We started that, by being blown up? Uh, okay, if you say so, then it must be right.

Hey, guys! S-C-H-O-O-L. You both must have missed a hell of a lot of it. Can't you at least work a little harder at *faking* an education? Really, it will help significantly in cutting down the number of folks who call you morons if you can at least fake it.
hey why isnt this dude banned yet...come on now i said things lightly b4 and got banned...lol my bad youve have to working against the propaganda to get banned or isnt the other way around, IDK .....:mad::mad::mad::mad:

[eg420ne]

come-on jamster i wasnt calling anyone any names, but youd insulted me....i dont like that one bit, cause im the that gets in trouble.......i will log out now...adios

[pisshead]

come-on jamster i wasnt calling anyone any names, but youd insulted me....i dont like that one bit, cause im the that gets in trouble.......i will log out now...adios

Comments like that are not even worth replying to.

[MajMike]

BTW, what did we start with Iran?

Our support for the Shah, a royal dictator whom we (the West) installed as their leader, and then his oppression of the people was the rallying point for anti-American sentiment in Iran.

Americans (and the other 'Western' nations) have interfered in the politics of this region since the fall of the Ottoman Empire, creating 'nations' from disparate peoples, installing puppet leaders and manipulating them ad infinitum. Americans would themselves be angry should another nation do that to us.

Note: Not picking sides in the argument, just pointing out some background.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

I don't really need Ron Paul to tell me there's going to be war with Iran, that's just pretty likely and obvious to most people I would think. Anyway, lets not forgot that PrisonPlanet knew for a fact that the US was invading Iran last October!:jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

hey why isnt this dude banned yet...come on now i said things lightly b4 and got banned...lol my bad youve have to working against the propaganda to get banned or isnt the other way around, IDK .....:mad::mad::mad::mad:

This isn't a conspiracy and a warning has been issued.......remember those from long, long ago? There is a certain process and this is strike one.

Keep it mellow Jam..............we all like to have ya around.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[medicinal]

Does anyone get the fact that Iran has a million man suicide army that would run over Iraq in 2-3 days killing every american in sight. They have thousands of tanks and heavy artillery. They might not win the air war, but they would surely fuck over US soldiers in Iraq, and if we go to Nukes, I believe the Russians And the chinese may get involved, then we go to defcon 1 and deploy our nuclear sub missles and it is over, Does anyone get this? Armegeddon! You know damn well there are Russion missle subs patrolling off the coast of the USA and by polar routes, Russian ICBMs can strike us everywhere. Kiss your ass bye-bye if we attack Iran, because like Bush, Amadinajad sees himself as the prophet for Armageddon. Unlike us, those Iranian fanatics are willing to die for their cause.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

In that case Bush's missile defense system doesn't seem like such a bad idea after all.

[FreshNugz]

Does anyone get the fact that Iran has a million man suicide army that would run over Iraq in 2-3 days killing every american in sight.... Kiss your ass bye-bye because like Bush, Amadinajad sees himself as the prophet for Armageddon. Unlike us, those Iranian fanatics are willing to die for their cause.
First part of this is...yes, it's incredibly scary to know they have like 40,000 people who have signed up to be "martyred" for their country, should it be attacked or invaded. But I think the situation is worse than Iranians killing American troops over there..they will probably try to hit America directly...
And as for the section in bold..
I don't know but i kinda get the feeling that you're saying Bush sees himself as a prophet for armageddon?? ...He's pretty religious, sure, but he is nothing compared to the Iranian president.

I agree with Jamstigator...100 percent. He speaks the truth.
We seem to share the opinion that Iraq has elements to it that aren't in the best interests of either America or Iraq...and it was done in a bad fashion..but it was done. So accept it. And try to make it the most positive thing you can.
Iran on the other hand is extremely dangerous. Hell, I don't even need a big 6-10 month propaganda machine(which i believe is increasingly prevalent, both here and in America)to convince me! I know that guy is insane. I don't need any other reason than that. He is Hitler, 2.0.
Let's make a comparison

Hitler
-hated the Jewish people, and also homosexuals, gypsies, catholics, blacks, and many other races/visible minorities who were "un-aryan".
-was a master at manipulation, and getting the international community to appease him
-killed many people.
-was the sole largest threat and cause of WW2.
*list could obv. go on....

Iranian President
-hates the jewish people , doesn't accept homosexuality, or anything not in accordance with Islamic law and custom.
-is currently being appeased to with use of sanctions, and the support of China and Russia
-WILL kill many people if we continue to appease.
-and WILL be the cause of WW3..if we do nothing.
If that isnn't chillingly similar behavio(u)r, I don't know what is.
Finally...I'd say the strongest indicator would be the way Iran communicates with countries like Britain and America...hell even Canada(Killing of Iranian-Canadian journalist Zahra Kazemi...google for more info). They just aren't rational to deal with.

And not saying it's a good thing, but it's reality that if you talk to the US and you entice them...piss them off enough...you'll get put in your place. NOT saying it's right....but they are the superpower..just the way it is.

[PharmaCan]

In a rather surprise developement today, Russia announced that it would not supply the enriched fuel that Iran needs to operate their new nuclear reactor. Apparently Russia has finally awakened to the fact that a nuclear Iran is not exactly in their best interests either.

... and Russia couldn't really care if Iran got nuked into the stone age - it would only serve to increase the value of their oil reserves.

The Chinese economy would crumble if they didn't have America to sell their products to. So China simply is not a military threat. (Any close look at China would show that their plan for dominance in the world is economic, not military.)

JMO

PC :smokin:

[eg420ne]

i got your hitler
[YouTube - SCARY VIDEO !! Bush = Hitler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkd3nYF1DZE)
YouTube - Bush Nazi Family Ties (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAxQzK_FrO4&mode=related&search=)

Hey did you alll know Bushes grandad was arrested for trading with the enemy(Germany)cant get any more closer to hitler then that...and its kinda odd the head of CIA become president(GWHB) and now his son is president, traitors formed in a family.....USA will murder itself from within, gotta take them traitortapeworms out now

[eg420ne]

really i dont care..........its gonna happen unless We The People stop these madmen in power, yes the Iranians must deal with their madman, not the USA, not anyone else, with a lil more attention and help maybe the Iranians can force the mullhas out.....then we can support a war with Syria......lol...we want war we want war we want war, so saids the good ger-americans.........

and hey what are we gonna do when the muslims force out the pakistan's leader, what are we gonna do...........USA will not mess with them, maybe give'em more money.....

[THClord]

Iran is not breaking any international law. There is no international law against building nukes. There is only an agreement that countries will get cheap uranium if they don't build nukes. But taking part of this agreement is voluntary.

Don't let the media trick you into believing they are doing anything illegal.

IMO, Iran is building the nukes out of self defense. They are just so tired of having to listen to the US's crap and being the US's bitch. They want the bomb so they can say. "Get the fuck out of here!!!"

[eg420ne]

Hey y'all do you remember this lil propaganda piece-it was laughed @ right from the start...
Iran yellow-badges fallout Unclaimed Territory - by Glenn Greenwald: Powerline: The Iran "yellow star" sham is true (http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/05/powerline-iran-yellow-star-sham-is.html)

These same people, tryin to bomb the middle-east from the arabs are very bad liars, or very good ones, its sooo hard to tell these days.....

Iran Target of Apparent Disinformation Ploy POLITICS: Iran Target of Apparent Disinformation Ploy (http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=33322)

[medicinal]

I don't know but i kinda get the feeling that you're saying Bush sees himself as a prophet for armageddon?? ...He's pretty religious, sure, but he is nothing compared to the Iranian president. ..................... Did you miss the part where Bush gets messages from God,~LOL~. He's every bit the Fanatic Ahmadinajad is, only the right wing religious fanatics see this as all right, yeah, it's just fine that our "leader", gets his direction from an invisible man that lives in the sky, ~LOL~, from his imagination. Bush is about as much a Christian as Atilla the Hun.

[FreshNugz]

Yes, I have heard him talk of his "messages from God"...but how is that negative when you compare it to:

BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Iran's president - his own words (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4616336.stm) <--source for my argument.

The Iranian President's view on....

Israel:
"As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map".

The Holocaust:
"Theh have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets.

**The holocaust just isn't a myth dude...come on. He thinks it's a myth cause they didn't fully succeed, and that is just disgusting and inhumane...

Human Rights:
We neither oppress anyone nor are we prepared to submit to anyone's oppression. We want justice, peace and security for all nations. We are defenders of human dignity all across the world.
**As Penn and Teller would say...BULLSHIT!
Acutally..they oppress Jews, women, homosexuals, and anyone who denounces Islamic laws and custom....not to mention pulling shit like taking British soldiers hostage..

And to THClord - you make good points, but don't you think that economic power can be quite as vast a strength against military? They are different powers sure, but quite related if you think of it..just a question..wondering what you think. :thumbsup:

Beliefs(re: religion)
"Belief in a saviour is universal. It is the pivot of our beliefs as Muslims and Iranians. We believe that an offspring of the prophet, may peace be upon him, will be the ultimate saviour. His name and attributes are clear. He will come and will administer ultimate justice."

**The ultimate justice is wiping israel off the map...among other things.

I have never seen George Bush say that some religious prophet will show up and wipe out a country that he hates because of its religion and culture. He simply said...Hell, Iraq is dangerous, and I'm gonna go in there and eliminate that danger"..not promised some religious figure would come do it for him. Possibly not the best analogy but it gets the point across.
You see, the US has a very apparent religious right, but unlike Islam, it does not follow the notion that you need to kill...maybe in mass amounts, to secure you..and preach that religion is the basis for such treatment. Their religion is like a way of life. To ALL of them! Here in the West, there is more of a separation of church and state. We are slowly evolving away from that.

You can still argue Bush has quite a religious emphasis, but it doesn't compare to the Iranian President's. Iran has an ayatolla...I don't think the US has an equivalent to that...correct me if wrong?

[eg420ne]

Anything for a war..

But thats alright the Iranians dictated how 9-11 should of happen.ATTACK!!!!!...next on foxnews

[eg420ne]

heres one-Turkish TV urged to censor film of Israeli soccer fans cursing Prophet Muhammad-Who ever said that Israelis were "civilized"?

A serious and potentially dangerous diplomatic incident between Israel and Turkey was prevented Wednesday, after a national Turkish TV channel agreed not to broadcast a video showing Israeli soccer fans cursing the Prophet Muhammad
Turkish TV urged to censor film of Israeli soccer fans cursing Prophet Muhammad | Wake Up From Your Slumber (http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/3244)

Hush hush lil israel we wont let a few bad apples ruin our conquest of the middle-east....