So pissed off to hear grand theft auto IV is only coming out for the Xbox 360.

[cannabis campbell]

Well apparently according to this and other sources its only coming out for the 360, your either a playstation man or a xbox man The xbox 360 is ok but I definately prefer the playstation I thought this game would be coming out for the ps3 and I dont want to have to buy a 360 just so I can play this game that i've been waiting so long for, does anyknow know for sure which consoles its supposed to be released on?

No offence to any Xbox fans out there but everyone knows the playstation has always been in the lead out of all the game consoles and when the Xbox was released the ps3 release date was postpones so they could make it even better and all games used to come out for the playstation first and then the xbox :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmFbUcK_xIk

[slipknotpsycho]

don't worry dude it's bullshit..

GRAND THEFT AUTO IV (http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/preorder/)

if rockstar had pulled the release from ps3, they wouldn't still have the ability to pre-order for ps3 on their homepage.

[sam44]

what about a pc version?

[higher4hockey]

get with the times brother...its a microsoft world and we're living in it.




;)

[slipknotpsycho]

what about a pc version?

GTA games don't usually come out on pc for a few months after it's initial release... it's coming, it'll just be awhile longer. i'm guessing somewhere inbetween july-september

[Reefer Rogue]

I can't wait to get it for my 360, halo 3 will satisfy me til then i guess.

[Seanus]

Its saying that the addons that you can download afterwards are only available to the Xbox.However, Playstation are having other downloadable content available which will be different from Microsofts.

In other words, It's individual patches/addons available from rockstar but some for the 360 and some for the ps3 which have a different story line.

Nothing to worry about, its just Microsoft trying to big the big boys.

[bluntblaze]

the first thing i thaught when i read the thread title was "shit... im gonna have to sell my ps3 and get a 360" thank god its not true.

[LimeCush]

360 is the shit!why dont you have one?get with the program.They have some KILLER games coming up!!!

[bluntblaze]

Its saying that the addons that you can download afterwards are only available to the Xbox.However, Playstation are having other downloadable content available which will be different from Microsofts.

In other words, It's individual patches/addons available from rockstar but some for the 360 and some for the ps3 which have a different story line.

Nothing to worry about, its just Microsoft trying to big the big boys.

where did you hear that the ps3 has got downloadable content

[bluntblaze]

360 is the shit!why dont you have one?get with the program.They have some KILLER games coming up!!!are you asking me?

if so.. because im a sony man and also i seen a video about up and coming features for the psn and i wouldn't want to change console.
i only got a "next gen console" for gtaIV so it doesn't bother which console has got better games.

[SirReal]

Microsoft paid Rockstar 5 mil for the exclusive release of GTA IV. Sony will be getting the game, but the 360 will have it first. Also Rockstar dropped the ball a little causing a bit of delay for the 360 version, but Microsoft representatives don't seem angry about the delay at all for some reason ot another.

[slipknotpsycho]

Microsoft paid Rockstar 5 mil for the exclusive release of GTA IV. Sony will be getting the game, but the 360 will have it first. Also Rockstar dropped the ball a little causing a bit of delay for the 360 version, but Microsoft representatives don't seem angry about the delay at all for some reason ot another.

show confirmed sources or stop spreading rumors...

cuz they've already said it will be coming out on both systems at the same exact time. the only platform that will have a delayed release will be pc.


360 is the shit!why dont you have one?get with the program.They have some KILLER games coming up!!!

yeah sony's got some killer games coming up too, both exclusive and multi-platform... haze, endwar, people are REALLY seeming to look forward to warhawk, i haven' tdone much reading on it, assassins creed, army of two, killzone 2, medal of honor airborne, blazing angels secret missions, heavenly sword... just ot name a few

by 2008, ps3 will hav ejust as many good games as 360... yes most of the gmaes out currently are shit tho... not even gonna try to argue that... not to mention i too am a sony man, and was severely disappointed by a next gen console that had a 33% failure rate... sorry, but i'm not looking to send in my console for a couple of weeks when it DOES fuck up, i'd just rather have a dependable system.

lol bluntblaze good to see you back :thumbsup: and i wouldn't sell my ps3 to get a 360 just for gta IV <.< dunno about you but i've got a pretty damn decent system (core 2 duo, 2 gig rams, 500 mb hdd, radeon x1950 pro extreme video card), i'd just wait til it came out on pc

[bluntblaze]

Microsoft paid Rockstar 5 mil for the exclusive release of GTA IV. Sony will be getting the game, but the 360 will have it first. Also Rockstar dropped the ball a little causing a bit of delay for the 360 version, but Microsoft representatives don't seem angry about the delay at all for some reason ot another.

links?

that seems like bullshit since they paid about $40million for the exclusive downloads.

[O. G. ganja smoker]

fuck the xbox 360 its an atari compared to the PS3

[Mr. Bubbles]

Sony has never really impressed me. The Xbox 360 is my console of choice right now. I may purchase a PS3 in the future, but not in the very near future. ;)

[sam44]

360s got bioshock and halo 3, which makes it the far superior console

[slipknotpsycho]

360s got bioshock and halo 3, which makes it the far superior console

halo is gay, halo 2 was gayer, i doubt halo 3 is gonna be much diffrent.... and yes i do know what i'm talking about cuz i've played them... i've also been playing fps's for many many years now, halo is nothing special... just another generic fps in the world of games... dunno why xbox owners talk about it like it's some godly game... i guess tha'ts just how pathetic most of the last gen games really were, that halo was a good game...

only game i've EVER seen on either xbox that seemed to be one of the years top games was gears of war.... out of EVERYTHING xbox has produced thus far, the only game to even get close to impressing me was gears of war...

[palerider7777]

Well apparently according to this and other sources its only coming out for the 360, your either a playstation man or a xbox man The xbox 360 is ok but I definately prefer the playstation I thought this game would be coming out for the ps3 and I dont want to have to buy a 360 just so I can play this game that i've been waiting so long for, does anyknow know for sure which consoles its supposed to be released on?

No offence to any Xbox fans out there but everyone knows the playstation has always been in the lead out of all the game consoles and when the Xbox was released the ps3 release date was postpones so they could make it even better and all games used to come out for the playstation first and then the xbox :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmFbUcK_xIk

u know i like all gaming machines, and as bad as i'd like to like ps3 it still just does'nt compare to the 360, and xboxlive no where close yes ps3 has blueray, but untill some damn good games start coming out for it i won't buy one. i mean just about every game thats on the ps3 is on 360, and xboxlive surpasses ps3 all the way around, and i will say i think anyways the ps3 graffix is a tad bit better but the load times are still just crazy long, and it makes no sense i played vf5 at my friends and just to play it took forever with all the loading it's like every round has to load for ever...but when they start getting better games i'll get one i always get every system i know when tekken6 or whatever comes out i will for sure get one thats the best fightin game ever

[palerider7777]

just to throw it out there i have yet to see a "next gen game" show up on any of these "next gen consoles" well i take that back i have seen one kindda next gen or as close to it as iv'e seen and that was oblivion all others are recycled games u know all the same old shit just a lilbit better graffix....just like gears of war was supposed to be this end all, whole new war game that was nothin but next gen and it was the same as all the other shit nothin new to me it did'nt impress me at all... sosdd i guess

[slipknotpsycho]

u know i like all gaming machines, and as bad as i'd like to like ps3 it still just does'nt compare to the 360, and xboxlive no where close yes ps3 has blueray, but untill some damn good games start coming out for it i won't buy one. i mean just about every game thats on the ps3 is on 360, and xboxlive surpasses ps3 all the way around, and i will say i think anyways the ps3 graffix is a tad bit better but the load times are still just crazy long, and it makes no sense i played vf5 at my friends and just to play it took forever with all the loading it's like every round has to load for ever...but when they start getting better games i'll get one i always get every system i know when tekken6 or whatever comes out i will for sure get one thats the best fightin game ever

you're kidding right? my games load fast, about the same that games on ps2 loaded (i've actually done the experimentation with god of war 2, i've beat it on my ps3, and then when we went on our trip i took my ps2 cuz i wans't about to risk my baby...but the loading times on ps2 for god of war 2 were ridiculous....) but yeah that says alot, considering next gen games are actually utilizing alot more data then ps2 (or last gen) games did...

and on resistance, i can go from the system completely off to being in a match and playing it (factoring in the game has to gather players to start a match, after you log on to online) in 2 minutes or less...

what games are you talking about that have huge load times(other then VF)? i've only had the chance to play 5 diffrent games thus far (the darkness, resistance, blazing angels, motorstorm, and full auto 2) and none had ridiculous load times, it was instantaneous, but i was never like "hurry the hell up and load" (and considering i'm a very impatient person, that's pretty good :p)

as for the remainder of your post, look for getting one by mid 2008, or near the end of 2008, there's a whole shitload of great games coming out BEFORE summer 2008, and there are alot more titles slated that i haven't had the chance of finding out any factual info on, other then it's name and projected release date. i'm sure a few of those will be great as well...

[slipknotpsycho]

just to throw it out there i have yet to see a "next gen game" show up on any of these "next gen consoles" well i take that back i have seen one kindda next gen or as close to it as iv'e seen and that was oblivion all others are recycled games u know all the same old shit just a lilbit better graffix....just like gears of war was supposed to be this end all, whole new war game that was nothin but next gen and it was the same as all the other shit nothin new to me it did'nt impress me at all... sosdd i guess

look up gameplay of MGS4 (there's one sorta indepth video that i know of so far, and the graphics are amazing, and it's not just another generic MGS with souped up graphics either....

end war, if it holds up (graphicly and with gameplay) will be THE game to put all fps's to shame, it's coming out for 360 as well tho

killzone 2 is supposed to be taking a more realistic fight style, which is a huge step forward if you've played the old killzone (it was extremely generic... no cars, no jumping, about 10 weapons or so to choose from, and a handful of maps) still great online gameplay tho if you can manage to find a room that isn't an explosive-whore room, unfortunately these days tho, (or last i chekced) it's FILLED with glitchers.

haze will be my game of choice until i get either GTAIV or End War

blazing angels series is sweet, atleast to me.. i was glued to that game for days straight (out of the five games i mentioned, it was actually the game i played hte most when i first got my ps3) and it's coming out with a new installation

army of two sounds to be a very promising co-op type game...

assasssin's creed... i can only say, will probably be one of the top games for the next couple of years atleast... (and if it goes to series one of the most popular series for years upon years to come, there's no doubt that will be a truely awesome game)

[Vaporize Me]

thank god i have a 360 :)

[ZeldaG.]

the first thing i thaught when i read the thread title was "shit... im gonna have to sell my ps3 and get a 360" thank god its not true.

the first thing i thout was his chatting shit :D

but it turns out his mis-informed ;)

[palerider7777]

look up gameplay of MGS4 (there's one sorta indepth video that i know of so far, and the graphics are amazing, and it's not just another generic MGS with souped up graphics either....

end war, if it holds up (graphicly and with gameplay) will be THE game to put all fps's to shame, it's coming out for 360 as well tho

killzone 2 is supposed to be taking a more realistic fight style, which is a huge step forward if you've played the old killzone (it was extremely generic... no cars, no jumping, about 10 weapons or so to choose from, and a handful of maps) still great online gameplay tho if you can manage to find a room that isn't an explosive-whore room, unfortunately these days tho, (or last i chekced) it's FILLED with glitchers.

haze will be my game of choice until i get either GTAIV or End War

blazing angels series is sweet, atleast to me.. i was glued to that game for days straight (out of the five games i mentioned, it was actually the game i played hte most when i first got my ps3) and it's coming out with a new installation

army of two sounds to be a very promising co-op type game...

assasssin's creed... i can only say, will probably be one of the top games for the next couple of years atleast... (and if it goes to series one of the most popular series for years upon years to come, there's no doubt that will be a truely awesome game)

yea i think end war will be kick ass or atleast i hope so cause im a big rb6 fan i rock vegas everyday almost i was let down with lockdown it was lame but what i mean by next gen i mean i want it to step up to the next level not a recycled game i mean look at vegas it's good and all but it still is the same as the rest of the rb6's just a lil update and the gunz are so miss matched i mean black arrow was more accurate than vegas.im just looking for something more than recycled games i guess u could say now if oblivion was online like ffx with free roam now that would be a game.i just bought 2 worlds and the online for it is sooooo laggy but it's still not free roam just matched up in like a arena type fight.and fv5 is the only one with a real long load time iv'e seen and motorstorm i thought was great but for me to go out and buy a ps3 there needs to be way more games than what they have and most of them i can get on 360 now so i'll wait eventhough my friend has a 60gig one he wants to see to me 4 250

[palerider7777]

assasssin's creed... i can only say, will probably be one of the top games for the next couple of years atleast... (and if it goes to series one of the most popular series for years upon years to come, there's no doubt that will be a truely awesome game)

and as far as this i soo hope it's not a let down it looks good but i hope it will be free roaming not leading u down a path type game but it looks damn good so far

[slipknotpsycho]

it appears to be free roaming

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wRmLrxjqsco

[sam44]

I dont think the halo games are "godly". the plot is lacking and the missions can be long and tedious. but that being said I still have a hell of a lot of fun doing co-op on halo. gears of war is pretty awseome. but bioshock, definitley is the best game since half life 2. but anyway fps are much better on PC which pwns 360 and ps3

[sam44]

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[slipknotpsycho]

I dont think the halo games are "godly". the plot is lacking and the missions can be long and tedious. but that being said I still have a hell of a lot of fun doing co-op on halo. gears of war is pretty awseome. but bioshock, definitley is the best game since half life 2. but anyway fps are much better on PC which pwns 360 and ps3

that i can agree with.... BF2 being one of the tops.

and PR, someone wants to sell you a ps3 for 250?? are you sure there's not something wrong with it? i mean unless he bought it recently, he paid 600 bucks for it... i don't see any logical reason for someone to sell it for less than half of what they paid for it unless there's something wrong with it...

but if it is fine, shit i'd take it, hell i'd buy it now even tho i have a 60 gig of my own.... probably sell it on craigslist or something for 50+ dollar profit.

[palerider7777]

that i can agree with.... BF2 being one of the tops.

and PR, someone wants to sell you a ps3 for 250?? are you sure there's not something wrong with it? i mean unless he bought it recently, he paid 600 bucks for it... i don't see any logical reason for someone to sell it for less than half of what they paid for it unless there's something wrong with it...

but if it is fine, shit i'd take it, hell i'd buy it now even tho i have a 60 gig of my own.... probably sell it on craigslist or something for 50+ dollar profit.

yea it's a friend i grew up with and he got it as trade with sum oz's of dro i don't know the whole story but he's not that into games like i am so he bought motostorm and said he did'nt like it and wants to sell it to me so he can put down on a boat he wants so i might get it but i was kindda waiting for the newer ps3 to come out.or atleast i thought i read sumwhere that a better one was coming out like the black 360 did with 120gigs in it??either way i might get it.

[slipknotpsycho]

yea it's a friend i grew up with and he got it as trade with sum oz's of dro i don't know the whole story but he's not that into games like i am so he bought motostorm and said he did'nt like it and wants to sell it to me so he can put down on a boat he wants so i might get it but i was kindda waiting for the newer ps3 to come out.or atleast i thought i read sumwhere that a better one was coming out like the black 360 did with 120gigs in it??either way i might get it.

no it's not really better, the newer models won't have the EE chip, which means less backwards compatibility... not sure of the exact numbers but instead of like a 98% backwards compatibility it'll be down in the low 80's... (until sony puts out the updates for it, incaes you don't know backwards compatibility = meaning you can play ps2 and ps1 games on the ps3)

other then that it's just gonna have an 80 gig harddrive and come with motorstorm, for 600.... while motor storm is a great game, i don't really think motorstorm and an extra 20 gigs is worth it really...

i mean you can just buy the 20 gig and if you need a bigger harddrive you can put in your own... i posted it somewhere else..


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i mean there's an 80 gig harddrive for less than 40...

a 20 gig ps3 is like 450, so for 490 you can have yourself an 80 gig, then if you add in the other aspect of the premium(motorstorm), it comes out to 540, rather then 600....

but yeah the new higher end model is only gonna not have the EE chip (not sure why) 80 gigs and motorstorm.

there is one special edition ps3 with a diffrent case...

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/01/ps3-design-red-small.jpg

but it was only won through a contest that was open to canada only... too bad too, it looks so sexy =/


edit: oops forgot this one, not sure how it was obtained tho

http://www.techepics.com/files/white_playstation_1.jpg

[KingsBlend420]

The game is coming out for PS3 and Xbox 360, but users with Xbox live will be getting episodic content that will be exclusive only to the xbox.

[slipknotpsycho]

The game is coming out for PS3 and Xbox 360, but users with Xbox live will be getting episodic content that will be exclusive only to the xbox.

read the thread, apparently so will ps3 users.....

so either way you go, you'll be getting exclusive content... (i really hope it's true too :S2: lmao... been the only real argument for GTAIV on 360 over PS3 so far....)

[t3chyo]

hey slipknotpsycho, whats up? I personally don't own any of the next-gen consoles but everypost I see from you spreads an unlogical biased opinion of the playstation 3. You seem to have nothing good to say about the xbox 360 even though its currently doing the best out of all 3 systems in the games category. Also like to point out that you say gears of war is the only game that almost impressed you? lol if that game only almost impressed you then whatever you say about any current ps3 games cant be anygood...but really what I don't get is why you defend a company soo much where they don't even know you exist? or care for that matter...meaning only defend a company if their system is actually doing good over another system in a debate...

[slipknotpsycho]

hey slipknotpsycho, whats up? I personally don't own any of the next-gen consoles but everypost I see from you spreads an unlogical biased opinion of the playstation 3. You seem to have nothing good to say about the xbox 360 even though its currently doing the best out of all 3 systems in the games category. Also like to point out that you say gears of war is the only game that almost impressed you? lol if that game only almost impressed you then whatever you say about any current ps3 games cant be anygood...but really what I don't get is why you defend a company soo much where they don't even know you exist? or care for that matter...meaning only defend a company if their system is actually doing good over another system in a debate...

then you're not looking..... i've said countless times they're both equal systems.... infact, i'm one of the few who will admit having a bias to a certain manufacturer, yet still say both 360 and ps3 are pretty much equal systems...

having said that, i don't really care how many people own a 360, or any product for that matter, just because more people own something does not make it the best in it's line...

first, although most xbox fans completely refuse the logic in the equasion it still stands.... 360 was out for a whole year before ps3... of course it's going to have more owners.... and more fans...

then, i've said it a hundred times before and i'll never stop... no matter what xbox fans say, it's still an extremely high portion of 'the better system' again, better does NOT = popularity, atelast for me.. better is quality, as it is for nearly any other thing in the world...

360's have a 33% failure rate... 1/3 will fail... what other product would anyone buy, that is widely known to have a 33% failutre rate?

would you buy a house built by a company that has had 1/3 of their houses fall to the ground/be condemned by the state, just becuase most people in the city use them? would you buy a car that that's known for it's 1 year, 33% break down rate, just becuase it has a very high sale rate? would you fly on a plane that has 1/3 of it's fleet drop outta they sky, just because it's cheaper then the alternative and most people use it? would you take a medication, even if you desperately needed it that has been known to kill 33 out of every hundred people who have taken it, just becuase it' scurrently the most popularly prescribed medication for your symptoms?

you can try and argue it's not the same thing, but actually it is...

and yes it is the only game to impress me thus far... ever other game is either on ps2/3, or PC, or it's nothing special, just a mirror image of other games on other systems

oh and as for "but really what I don't get is why you defend a company soo much where they don't even know you exist? or care for that matter...meaning only defend a company if their system is actually doing good over another system in a debate... "

all i can do is laugh... how does this have any standing? what you think M$ cares about you? all that fuck gates (who owns the company) cares about is money... that is why most type M$ rather then MS....

show me one MS product that showed M$ actually cared about it's customers, and took the steps to solve problems quickly....? i'll tell you right now, don't bother, cuz you won't find shit... they may solve problems, but it takes far longer then it should.... and it is a marketing scheme... (i mean do you honestly mean to tell me it takes nearly a year to produce a fix for it's products?)

they put out their product, and give it a long long time, for all of those who think "gee i just have to get this now, i can't wait til it's bugs are fixed" then way later, when sells slow down drasticly, they produce a fix (i.e. service pack) to get more people to think "well now it's fixed ima get it", oh but guess what? there are still numerous problems, takes them even longer ot come out with another fix, then they release it to guess what? draw in more people thinking the same thing as the 2nd group...

anyways, if you think i'm just a fan boy who has nothing good to say, you're not looking hard enough, look into the subject, i'm not gonna waste my time to post you 10+ links of where i've said they were equal and was crucified by xbox fanboys claiming the ps3 is a total peice of shit and 360 is once and for all supreme...

in short, get that 360 if you want to listen to everyone else... but don't bitch when it craps out on you, you have the facts infront of you... 360's have a 33% failure rate, both WII and PS3 have LESS than 1%...

and ps3 is coming up with the games.... the only reason this has anything to do with anything currently is becuase developers have had a year longer to put out games for 360... now everyone is comparing the games currently out like it's any indication.. you want indication fo better system?

judge the games out now for 360 to the games out for ps3 NEXT-YEAR...

[palerider7777]

then you're not looking..... i've said countless times they're both equal systems.... infact, i'm one of the few who will admit having a bias to a certain manufacturer, yet still say both 360 and ps3 are pretty much equal systems...

having said that, i don't really care how many people own a 360, or any product for that matter, just because more people own something does not make it the best in it's line...

first, although most xbox fans completely refuse the logic in the equasion it still stands.... 360 was out for a whole year before ps3... of course it's going to have more owners.... and more fans...

then, i've said it a hundred times before and i'll never stop... no matter what xbox fans say, it's still an extremely high portion of 'the better system' again, better does NOT = popularity, atelast for me.. better is quality, as it is for nearly any other thing in the world...

360's have a 33% failure rate... 1/3 will fail... what other product would anyone buy, that is widely known to have a 33% failutre rate?

would you buy a house built by a company that has had 1/3 of their houses fall to the ground/be condemned by the state, just becuase most people in the city use them? would you buy a car that that's known for it's 1 year, 33% break down rate, just becuase it has a very high sale rate? would you fly on a plane that has 1/3 of it's fleet drop outta they sky, just because it's cheaper then the alternative and most people use it? would you take a medication, even if you desperately needed it that has been known to kill 33 out of every hundred people who have taken it, just becuase it' scurrently the most popularly prescribed medication for your symptoms?

you can try and argue it's not the same thing, but actually it is...

and yes it is the only game to impress me thus far... ever other game is either on ps2/3, or PC, or it's nothing special, just a mirror image of other games on other systems

oh and as for "but really what I don't get is why you defend a company soo much where they don't even know you exist? or care for that matter...meaning only defend a company if their system is actually doing good over another system in a debate... "

all i can do is laugh... how does this have any standing? what you think M$ cares about you? all that fuck gates (who owns the company) cares about is money... that is why most type M$ rather then MS....

show me one MS product that showed M$ actually cared about it's customers, and took the steps to solve problems quickly....? i'll tell you right now, don't bother, cuz you won't find shit... they may solve problems, but it takes far longer then it should.... and it is a marketing scheme... (i mean do you honestly mean to tell me it takes nearly a year to produce a fix for it's products?)

they put out their product, and give it a long long time, for all of those who think "gee i just have to get this now, i can't wait til it's bugs are fixed" then way later, when sells slow down drasticly, they produce a fix (i.e. service pack) to get more people to think "well now it's fixed ima get it", oh but guess what? there are still numerous problems, takes them even longer ot come out with another fix, then they release it to guess what? draw in more people thinking the same thing as the 2nd group...

anyways, if you think i'm just a fan boy who has nothing good to say, you're not looking hard enough, look into the subject, i'm not gonna waste my time to post you 10+ links of where i've said they were equal and was crucified by xbox fanboys claiming the ps3 is a total peice of shit and 360 is once and for all supreme...

in short, get that 360 if you want to listen to everyone else... but don't bitch when it craps out on you, you have the facts infront of you... 360's have a 33% failure rate, both WII and PS3 have LESS than 1%...

NEXT-YEAR...

well i will say this, the reason people keep buying the 360 even though it has a 33% fail rate is because it's still a damn good machine. over say xbox iv's had 2 so far break on me and i keep all my stuff in mint cond. and i stoped playing the system altogether for about 6 mo because of the lag on xbox live but after they worked out all the kinks now it works great.and for me i love all the systems, as i love games i don't care who makes it iv'e always bought every system that comes out. sum at launch and to be honest the ps3 was the only one i have'nt pre ordered for launch pick up, i was gonna but ebgames fucked me over, + the weak launch titles that it had. so i was'nt like i have to have this now like all the others and the price was'nt a big deal for me. i still don't think it's alot of money for it as i remember my mom paying 50 bucks a game for atari games, and i remember paying 500 myself for a dreamcast at launch. well just about every system thats came out has been 400 or higher so 600 for all u get+bluray+ 60 gigs it's not high at all. i also remember paying 70+ per game for dreamcast games when it first came out. the only reason i don't have one is the lack of games and if it was'nt for rb6 i would'nt have bought a 360 at launch, as it had shit for launch titles as well. but i was so tired of xbox and the 360 was the first "next gen system" with bad ass graffix i was'nt gonna let that pass me by lol

[Gothen]

My only take on it is that I just bought an XBox 360 Elite about 2 or 2 and a half months ago ONLY because it was 100 dollars cheaper than the best PS3 out, at the time. I've found now that the price of the PS3 is 500 dollars, the version I want, at least. So, I'm selling my XBox 360 for everything I paid for it to a friend on Saturday. The same day, I plan to go and pick up a PS3. I still have NO idea as to what games I should buy, but I want a PS3.

I've been with Sony since 1996, and even though I think the price was fucking LUDICROUS, I still think that Sony has the best machine simply because of the exclusives. In today's world, almost EVERYTHING is multi-platform. So, a platform has to stand exclusively on...well...its exclusives. I've never liked Halo, and any other game that is exclusive to XBox 360 is either not for me, or similar games can be found on the PS3.

I fucking hate Sony, only because a fucking billionaire company has to charge 600 bucks for a home console is absolutely ridiculous. In NO way does sony have to price them so high to make profit, which is why I'm glad they've lowered the price.

Go all games, because both consoles SUCK!

[slipknotpsycho]

My only take on it is that I just bought an XBox 360 Elite about 2 or 2 and a half months ago ONLY because it was 100 dollars cheaper than the best PS3 out, at the time. I've found now that the price of the PS3 is 500 dollars, the version I want, at least. So, I'm selling my XBox 360 for everything I paid for it to a friend on Saturday. The same day, I plan to go and pick up a PS3. I still have NO idea as to what games I should buy, but I want a PS3.

I've been with Sony since 1996, and even though I think the price was fucking LUDICROUS, I still think that Sony has the best machine simply because of the exclusives. In today's world, almost EVERYTHING is multi-platform. So, a platform has to stand exclusively on...well...its exclusives. I've never liked Halo, and any other game that is exclusive to XBox 360 is either not for me, or similar games can be found on the PS3.

I fucking hate Sony, only because a fucking billionaire company has to charge 600 bucks for a home console is absolutely ridiculous. In NO way does sony have to price them so high to make profit, which is why I'm glad they've lowered the price.

Go all games, because both consoles SUCK!

while i do agree, you do have to take in account it has a BluRay player, which contributes alot to the price.... just look up how much a stand alone bluray player really is... :p

ok fuck it ima just list all the games worth checking out

[slipknotpsycho]

alone in the dark
blazing angels squardons of wwii and secret missions
medal of honor airborne
genji days of the blade
turok
metal gear solid guns of the patriot
brothers in arms hells highway
ninja gaiden sigma
coded arms assault
resistance fall of man
dirt
army of two
silent hill v
the wheelman
need for speed pro street
killlzone 2
lair
prototype
the outsider
warhawk
end war
the darkness
haze
heavenly sword
call of duty 4
grand theft auto 4
assassin's creed


underlined = must haves
bolded = out now

[palerider7777]

i thought the darkness sux ass the lil arm things were so hard to control

[Gothen]

I have seen how much those players are, stand-alone players. However, what other people fail to probably take into account is that Sony is selling this is an entertainment home console whatever whatever, and there are other things in the PS3 besides that bluray player. So, besides having to pay for the bluray player parts, which are probably expensive, they are putting other expensive parts in it as well. So, my point is, is that Sony probably isn't putting in bluray players that don't compare to home bluray players. When the PS2 first came out, the DVD players in them sucked; I constantly had it scratch disks and then simply refuse to play disks at all. Why? Because the hardware was all cheap, used to cut costs and sell it at a cheaper price to sell more product. I'm going to go off of a limb here and say that I think that Sony is, more than likely, doing the exact same thing with the PS3: cheaper parts, cheaper product. So, regardless of how much of a "save" it is, I'm sure that people will have to turn in their machines at their local Wal-Mart or wherever for a new one just like the PS2s.

The only thing I like about the 360s, at least the Elites, is that Microsoft is using primo parts for the Elites, parts that are, almost, guaranteed never to fail, unlike their white counterparts. The product justifies the price with the Elites. The 60 gig PS3 justifies $500.00 price tag, in my opinion. Though, I think its ridiculous they're going to be "phasing them" out and selling the 80 gig with a POS racer and selling it for *GASP* 600 bucks, AGAIN!

Edit:

PS: Thanks for the games titles, I'll probably buy...1 or 2 of those with the console, and wait/rent the others out.

[palerider7777]

i can't wait till they come out with another fight nite

[slipknotpsycho]

i thought the darkness sux ass the lil arm things were so hard to control

they were easy for me... the game starts getting really weird after awhile, did you ever get far into it?

i mostly like it cuz it's so diffrent from every game i've ever played...

[palerider7777]

[quote=slipknotpsycho]they were easy for me... the game starts getting really weird after awhile, did you ever get far into it?

i mostly like it cuz it's so diffrent from every game i've ever played...[/QUOTE

naw i just played the demo

[palerider7777]

i know a game that looked good was blazing angels 2 i played the online demo and it's pretty good

[slipknotpsycho]

[quote=slipknotpsycho]they were easy for me... the game starts getting really weird after awhile, did you ever get far into it?

i mostly like it cuz it's so diffrent from every game i've ever played...[/QUOTE

naw i just played the demo

oh, well dude alli can say is don't judge a book by it's cover...

the storyline is extremely fucking weird, (as if rising from the dead wasn't enough, but compared to the whole story line, rising from the dead is an ordinary thing)

and those arms aren't exactly the main weapon :p infact, after everything takes a weird turn, unelss you like being stealth, they don't really come into play...

and for originality factor, blazing angels is definately sweet... i own squadrons of wwii... it's a great game...

[Reefer Rogue]

33 percent failure rate, yea maybe when it first came out, but not anymore and not for a long time. More sales for the 360 means it's better. Too bad the ps3 was too slow, microsoft created a cheaper and great system a year quicker. They win. You may not like halo but so many more people do like it. There's a reason why it's the most anticipated game in while and why company's actually pay out money to the winners of halo tournaments..

[slipknotpsycho]

RR nothing personal... so don't take it that way..

33 percent failure rate, yea maybe when it first came out but not anymore and not for a long time.

DailyTech - Retailers Estimate Xbox 360 Failure Rate High as 33 Percent (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7892)



One often overlooked factor when considering a console purchase is reliability, an area that is apparently where the Xbox 360 falls short.

also take notice, this is from july 07... the failure rate is there, even consoles being shipped now, if you have evidence point otherwise, provide it.

More sales for the 360 means it's better.

first, refer to the quote above, next...

EETimes.com - Microsoft Xbox sales fall 60% as problems mount (http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/rss/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201200318&cid=RSSfeed_eetimes_semiRSS)

and more so..

PS3's two-week sales figures surge 135 percent - PlayStation 3 News at GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6175529.html?tag=latestnews;title;3)

(360 WAS top, it's rapidly failing and falling. truth of the matter is for the first year of next gen, people had two choices, WII or 360... then the failure rate hit, really impacting sales...)

Too bad the ps3 was too slow, microsoft created a cheaper and great system a year quicker.

well sure, if you want a cheaper more screwed up system, ok... just IMO here, but i'm glad sony took the time to extensively test their product and fix problems (may i cite: Failure Rate: Xbox 360 High As 33% - Sony PS3 & Nintendo Wii Less Than 1% | ripten (http://www.ripten.com/2007/07/03/failure-rate-xbox-360-high-as-33-sony-ps3-less-than-1/))

They win.

this 'war' is far from over actually... just wait... think of this as the tortise and the hare... 360 being the hare, had speed on it's side... but who wins in the story? (btw, have you bothered to look up the massive ammount of games coming out for ps3 by the end of next year? not only will ps3 rival quality, by next year, it will also rival the sheer number of games)

You may not like halo but so many more people do like it.

got me there and i won't even bother inserting my opinion (which may i say, that MANY share, even xbox owners and sony haters themselves) but hell.. everyone loved goldeneye release on 64 too... doesn't mean it isn't past the times now... i suspect the reason most still love it, is merely the attachment and keeping up with the story line... i can tell you now, if goldeneye came out with a more high def and online version for the ps2/3/pc i'd have to have it as well...

that doesn't make it a great game, only makes it a popular game which i never debated... i only debate the quality of it, not the popularity.. hell i'd be stupid to try and argue it's popularity

There's a reason why it's the most anticipated game in while

you are most certainly correct here, but not for the reason you're trying to project here... halo came out on xbox.. show me one absolutely amazing GREAT game on xbox that ps2 didn't have.... i'll honestly judge it.. but i've seen most of what it had to offer...

lots of halo fanboys because they opted for xbox and quite honestly of that system, it was one of the better games to choose from... not becuase it was a godly game, just becuase that's what there was to choose from (again, show me otherwise, i'll judge honestly, on gameplay, graphics, and originality definately is a plus [i.e. isn't a game found on other systems that they just ripped off and gave it their own twist])



and why company's actually pay out money to the winners of halo tournaments..

sorry if i'm the first to break it to you, but these gaming competitions have been around forever, and guess what? the winners always get paid... it isn't just halo, nor xbox games...


again nothing personal... just think of as an education, and i'm more than open to any you may provide, except for the parts i've stated were opinon, it is solid cold hard fact... not fan boy inspired opinion, rumor, or info heard from the grape vine.

[palerider7777]

im not a big halo fan and when halo2 was coming out it was supposed to be so much better than the first and yet it was the same as the first no diffrent and i played the demo of halo3 and i still see no diffrence it still just run and gun no strategy involved i want something with sum depth to it and halo lacks that big time.sos i say and as far as goldeneye 4 64 now that was a very good game for it's time 1 of the best i think along with a game called shadowrun for snes and i might add they really fucked up the remake of it totally im so pissed that they fucked that game up it could have been such a good game.thats why i like rb6 series so much it's tactical and not just run and gun as much as the others.and im hoping endwar will add to that

[MadSativa]

Hey CC I coulnt watch all of it but I am sure it come out for PS3 and usualy a week before the 360 version. I have already seen the PS3 package and game it self just never played it. At this years E3 their was sopposobly 3 GTA4's for play on PS3.

[snowblind]

i love this thread, slipknotpsycho, you make me laugh and i gotta respect you because of your conviction. but at the end of the day everyone has got their own opinons. i know you keep talking about reliabity and thats a fair issue, but due to that issue all 360's now have a 3 year warranty and not once have you mentioned the overheating issues with ps3's in japan, which caused a huge comotion and sony delt with it quite poorly.
as for games, i am an xbox fan, i was playstation the previous round, but there where so many mediocre games i found it to be the same with the ps2. it has to be said that xbox live is a far superior online system than playstations and this is to be commended.
you previously slated microsoft and i can understand why, it was annoying that they pushed other companies to the wayside, but a court settlement and stricter guidelines settles that. they are a massive company, but they do a lot of good. i'd just like to ask what os do you run ?
i was privelaged enough to help bug test vista before it was released, due to my job and it really is a wikid operating system. it has many advantages over xp and media center and feels like they have really listened to the customers as it is exceptionally user friendly and has many diagnostic and bug fixin interfaces built into it.
as for the games well, competetition between systems is healthy it keeps developers looking for new killer apps and keeps the market competitive. i do think and agree with whats been said before that there are no tru next gen apps, but this to me is because the majority of gamers aren't hardcore, they like sports/racing/platform games, that they can pick up and play. this is no more apparent buy the surprising success of the wii, something which i commend nintendo for, they saw a gap in the market and filled it. it has also got ot be said that on of probably the best last gen games i played resident evil 4 was orginally ONLY release on the gamecube.
there is no winner in the console race, as for all the points you raised about the 360 being the most sold, will then apply to the ps3. its about personal choice and what you intend to do.
but as for hd dvd and blu ray, well who knows. i still remember beta max and vhs, and beta max was superior in quality. i think an included blu ray is really false bonus because theres not alot you can do with it at the moment.

peace

snowblind

ps got my 360 elite today

[slipknotpsycho]

it has to be said that xbox live is a far superior online system than playstations and this is to be commended.

i'm still yet to hear how xbox live is better... i mean you pay for it, but that doens't make it better.. (the only thing i'd heard on it, was before i had mine, and it was something along the lines of being able to track your friends game to game, rather then having to add them in each game, having voice chat, being able to download and even buy upgrades/extras and download 'em straigh to the system... ALL of which is available on PSN, for free... (other then the games/extras you choose to buy, but they do have alot of free stuff as well... the buying has nothing to do with PSN, but the developers... they decide whether to put it out for free or charge you for it)

yes, microsoft did what was right by extending the warranty, but if you ask me, that shouldn't have ever been an issue in the first place.. i don't know if you can understand this, but i do not want my system to crap out, just to have to send it to the company just becuase they couldn't get it right the first time (360 also has heat issues.. matter of fact.. if you want, i can find the report on what all xbox changes when you send it in... it's quite alot... most noteably (and important concerning heat) is the heatsink...

when it comes down to it, i honestly feel 360 is a shotty system becuase microsoft pushed it out too fast...

ps3's tho, atleast here, don't have an over heating problem... and even more so, you can buy an attatchment (if you'r ethat worried about it) for 20-30 bucks that eleminates all fear of over heating... i have it, but it's not becuase i needed it, it's just that i had alot fo money to spend, and i didn't wanna take any chances... i don't even have to use it...

as for the rest of your post, i commend YOU on being able to actually discuss the subject, rather then the typical "my system owns yours" :p

and i do run vista, and as i've said, it is a very nice system, just extremely buggy (according to what i've heard tho, the first service pack, which means solutions, is coming before 2008...)

i've never used anything other then windows, but that doesn't mean i'm happy with microsoft... it's just what i started on, before i really knew anything (much less what i know today microsoft represents) and i'm far too stubborn to get used to a new OS.... actually i'd go back to XP SP2 if it weren't for 2 reasons...

1. i paid alot extra for my 'media center pc' and it's remote option (it's pretty much my entire entertainment system, i use it to watch movies, tv shows, stand up comedy, even listen to music) 2. i'm sure vista will outdo xp in time (windows has only gotten better with every installment) and i don't want to have to go back and buy vista all over, when they finally get things straightened out.


as you said tho, everyone has their opinions.... and microsoft (atleast from what i've seen) has NEVER stood for reliablity... and that is a serious problem for me... to me it'd be the same as buying a car, and never knowing when it'll actually start for you.. instead of that, i'd just pick a diffrent car..

[palerider7777]

i like all systems i don't like narrowing my gaming options down to just 1 system. there are good things about both, and slipnot ur looking for something that will never be "100%" no gaming system or anything for that matter will ever be 100%. it just won't and anything thats massed produced like gaming machines, and the fail rate will only go up.and even though there were heat issues and such with the 360, im sure thankful they came out 2 years ago or how ever sooner than ps3 it was, cause i could'nt imagine still playing xbox. i'd be bored out of my mind, and thats the thing atleast they got it out there for us to play. and have something new to do, it was long enough. xbox was out for what 5/6 years b4 a new system came out something like that, it was gettin old.

and even though there were problems with the system, i did'nt loose out u are acting as if people were wasting there money buying it. i bought 2 at launch and they both lasted a year but i did'nt loose any money i went and traded them in to walmart and got brand new ones, so no loss here and other people just turned them in to ms and got them fixed. and i don't know how into games u are but i don't see how u played without something new for so long ti'll the ps3 came out what were u playing ps2?? man that would have got old to me. i mean it's still a good system but with gaming i always like whats coming out next i like all games and as soon as the games start to pump out for the ps3 im gettin one so...

[snowblind]

good to see you rocking the vista, i love it. but it is a blatent rip of macs os 10.i run vista, linux on my pc and os 10 and xp through boot camp on my mac. gotta say there are alot of better companies out there than microsoft and im all for the freeware, but back to the cars, microsoft is like the ford of the computing world, in the sense that it brought it to the masses.

you can by those aftermarket fans for the 360, i have one on mine, in black of course. was only 15 and i considered it a worthy investment.

i didnt realise that psn was free. ive only had a breif amount of time to play with it, so it could just be familiarity that was pining me thorugh.

i will eventually have to by a ps3 for mgs4. im was really torn cus the next gen is finishing two major vide game story arcs on 2 systems that really are my favorite games, halo and mgs.

i know alot of people talk about halo and dont get it, but the mechincs of the game are superior to any other console fps i have played online. its versitile, well thought out and fun to do so. it also has a great pick up and play factor with an intense learnig curve.

reliability is a big issue, but it was ibm, i think who didnt warn them of the problems they already knew about with the architecture of the previous chip. as they had been using them for sometime. the ownus is on microsoft as they design the 360 which when u look inside is very cramped. but they have remedied it go falcon chips.

still its good to ge some healthy debate going. i get sick of reading fanboy posts. based on mindless brand loyalty

peace
ps duality owns :P

[Reefer Rogue]

RR nothing personal... so don't take it that way..

33 percent failure rate, yea maybe when it first came out but not anymore and not for a long time.

DailyTech - Retailers Estimate Xbox 360 Failure Rate High as 33 Percent (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7892)




also take notice, this is from july 07... the failure rate is there, even consoles being shipped now, if you have evidence point otherwise, provide it.

More sales for the 360 means it's better.

first, refer to the quote above, next...

EETimes.com - Microsoft Xbox sales fall 60% as problems mount (http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/rss/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201200318&cid=RSSfeed_eetimes_semiRSS)

and more so..

PS3's two-week sales figures surge 135 percent - PlayStation 3 News at GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6175529.html?tag=latestnews;title;3)

(360 WAS top, it's rapidly failing and falling. truth of the matter is for the first year of next gen, people had two choices, WII or 360... then the failure rate hit, really impacting sales...)

Too bad the ps3 was too slow, microsoft created a cheaper and great system a year quicker.

well sure, if you want a cheaper more screwed up system, ok... just IMO here, but i'm glad sony took the time to extensively test their product and fix problems (may i cite: Failure Rate: Xbox 360 High As 33% - Sony PS3 & Nintendo Wii Less Than 1% | ripten (http://www.ripten.com/2007/07/03/failure-rate-xbox-360-high-as-33-sony-ps3-less-than-1/))

They win.

this 'war' is far from over actually... just wait... think of this as the tortise and the hare... 360 being the hare, had speed on it's side... but who wins in the story? (btw, have you bothered to look up the massive ammount of games coming out for ps3 by the end of next year? not only will ps3 rival quality, by next year, it will also rival the sheer number of games)

You may not like halo but so many more people do like it.

got me there and i won't even bother inserting my opinion (which may i say, that MANY share, even xbox owners and sony haters themselves) but hell.. everyone loved goldeneye release on 64 too... doesn't mean it isn't past the times now... i suspect the reason most still love it, is merely the attachment and keeping up with the story line... i can tell you now, if goldeneye came out with a more high def and online version for the ps2/3/pc i'd have to have it as well...

that doesn't make it a great game, only makes it a popular game which i never debated... i only debate the quality of it, not the popularity.. hell i'd be stupid to try and argue it's popularity

There's a reason why it's the most anticipated game in while

you are most certainly correct here, but not for the reason you're trying to project here... halo came out on xbox.. show me one absolutely amazing GREAT game on xbox that ps2 didn't have.... i'll honestly judge it.. but i've seen most of what it had to offer...

lots of halo fanboys because they opted for xbox and quite honestly of that system, it was one of the better games to choose from... not becuase it was a godly game, just becuase that's what there was to choose from (again, show me otherwise, i'll judge honestly, on gameplay, graphics, and originality definately is a plus [i.e. isn't a game found on other systems that they just ripped off and gave it their own twist])



and why company's actually pay out money to the winners of halo tournaments..

sorry if i'm the first to break it to you, but these gaming competitions have been around forever, and guess what? the winners always get paid... it isn't just halo, nor xbox games...


again nothing personal... just think of as an education, and i'm more than open to any you may provide, except for the parts i've stated were opinon, it is solid cold hard fact... not fan boy inspired opinion, rumor, or info heard from the grape vine.

I can't be bothered rite now to answer all that, so i'm just gonna agree to disagree. I'm just glad my 360 hasn't broken yet, 33% failure rate is unnaceptable. I may end up with both consoles one day so, enjoy gaming, that's what's really important.

[slipknotpsycho]

i like all systems i don't like narrowing my gaming options down to just 1 system. there are good things about both, and slipnot ur looking for something that will never be "100%" no gaming system or anything for that matter will ever be 100%. it just won't and anything thats massed produced like gaming machines, and the fail rate will only go up.and even though there were heat issues and such with the 360, im sure thankful they came out 2 years ago or how ever sooner than ps3 it was, cause i could'nt imagine still playing xbox. i'd be bored out of my mind, and thats the thing atleast they got it out there for us to play. and have something new to do, it was long enough. xbox was out for what 5/6 years b4 a new system came out something like that, it was gettin old.

and even though there were problems with the system, i did'nt loose out u are acting as if people were wasting there money buying it. i bought 2 at launch and they both lasted a year but i did'nt loose any money i went and traded them in to walmart and got brand new ones, so no loss here and other people just turned them in to ms and got them fixed. and i don't know how into games u are but i don't see how u played without something new for so long ti'll the ps3 came out what were u playing ps2?? man that would have got old to me. i mean it's still a good system but with gaming i always like whats coming out next i like all games and as soon as the games start to pump out for the ps3 im gettin one so...

err... well we're poor so i didn't really have a choice in the matter, even if it had came out when 360 did... but mostly i played games on my PC (BF2/FFXI occupied most of my time)

it was only by a fluke that i could afford to get my own ps3.

[palerider7777]

err... well we're poor so i didn't really have a choice in the matter, even if it had came out when 360 did... but mostly i played games on my PC (BF2/FFXI occupied most of my time)

it was only by a fluke that i could afford to get my own ps3.

thats what i was guessing that u played alot on the pc i do to sometimes im on wow and 1 of my fav games on pc is aoe i like all the aoe games as there great i was gonna say that would be the only way i could wait so long on a new system is playin on pc