Drug test next week

[BWG]

Ok I'm kind of worried, I have a company that wants to hire me and I smoked Monday and Tuesday of this week. I smoked a lot on Tuesday. Before that I smoked maybe 3 - 4 times over the last 4 weeks. I started smoking again about 4 months ago and combined have smoked around 1/3 of a oz in that time.

Anyway my drug test is the middle to end of next week. I'm 5'10 225lbs but am a bodybuilder and have fairly low bf levels of around 10% or so. I've been drinking a lot of water and doing a ton of cardio to try and sweat it out and burn the fat the THC is stored in.

So what are my chances of being clean in 7 - 10 days. I think they are very low and I'm thinking of using the wifes piss to pass. Just worried about keeping it at the right temp.

[Zcomp]

Your chances aren't all that bad.
Lets see now......
We only care about the last 4 weeks.
you said you only smoked 3-4 times in the last month = about 12-14 Days to get clean
then you smoked Mon and Tue(how many times??) = anywhere from 6-14 days to get clean.
If you could provide exactly when in the last month you smoked and how many times I could give you a more accurate estimate.
I only know cause I've been drug tested hundreds of times and I always push the limits. I've failed some and passed others. I failed using those system cleaners after 2 weeks of not smoking and I passed after smoking earlier that week. All my tests have been court appointed so diluted was not an option(dilution = failed).

[killerweed420]

If you really want the job I would either use the wife's piss,if your absolutly sure she's clean and hasn't taken any prescription meds or pickup some quickfix.If its a really important job its not worth the risk of testing positive.

[FakeBoobsRule]

Don't listen to Zcomp. Why, because every body is different.

THC half-life varies from 0.8 days to 10 days, depending on the person. It depends on gentics, body fat percentage, diet, physical activity level, smoking history, etc.

"We" as Zcomp puts it, aren't just concerned with the last 4 weeks. You smoking history is very important.

Drinking lots of water days and days before the test won't help flush you out. Very little THC metabolites are eliminated through sweat. What is important is calories burned. Being a bodybuilder your basal metabolic rate is probably higher than most because of extra muscle mass so that is good but it is about calories burned not how much you sweat.

You may be clean in 7-10 days and you may dilute but I would use your wife's urine and sub and in the meantime practice, practice, practice. Choose your container and practice with 2 ounces of water. Get it to temp then secure it and check the temp at 30 minutes, 1 hour, 2hours, etc. When you get it consistently between 90-100 degrees, repeat on the day o the test. Make sure you read the substitution sticky. Killerweed gave you some good advice too.

[BWG]

I took maybe 15 hits on Tuesday and 8 - 10 on Monday. This stuff is really strong.

The few other times before that in the last 4 weeks was maybe 4 - 8 hits each time.

On top of this I'm on a few pain killers from the doc. Oxy, Vikes, tramadol + a muscle relaxer and anti inflammatory. I don't know if these would make me fail for something else?

Sounds like I'll be using the wifes piss as I really need this job. I bought some heat packs as well, for your back. Will they keep it at around 100 degrees combined with it being stuffed in between my legs?

[FakeBoobsRule]

Some of those heat packs are too strong. I find they are really only useful when you need to heat your sample up more quickly than with body heat alone. Practice with body heat alone and I'm sure you will be surprised at how much heat your body gives off.

Your prescriptions will not cause false positives.

[Zcomp]

FakeBoobsRule,
Your right about everyone's body type being different, but I wasn't trying to give him a 100% date to be clean. I was just gonna give him exactly what it took my body. I don't think you can discount hundreds of tests over the course of about 12yrs with a simple "dont listen to zcomp"
you said yourself "THC half-life varies from 0.8 days to 10 days, depending on the person. It depends on gentics, body fat percentage, diet, physical activity level, smoking history, etc."
right so if subject A has low body fat, high activity and a light smoking history then they should lean more towards .8 Days per high.
My calc didn't account for such a short half-life, It accounted for 3-10 days per high given what I already read about this person.
You also said yourself "Being a bodybuilder your basal metabolic rate is probably higher than most because of extra muscle mass so that is good but it is about calories burned not how much you sweat."
Thats exactly what I read, and as such I'm gonna go head and assume that he fits the average smoker profile that gets THC low enough to pass in 30 Days. Not like a high bodyfat person and there 45 Days.
In fact you just ended saying the same thing as me "you might be clean in 7-10 days".
I'm not trying to come off with attitude towards you fakeboobs, I just don't understand why you would flame my answer only to state what I already did?

[BWG]

I'm going to test my self, but I'm probably not going to do that much as everywhere around here sells at $15 a test.

I got my 2oz bottle time to start testing the heat, the main thing I was worried about with not using a heat pack was my drive, 50 minutes to this hospital and I'm sure they will want me to test around there so I will need to keep the piss warm for at least 70 - 90 minutes. Maybe longer.

it sucks not being able to smoke I just bought a 1/2 oz

[FakeBoobsRule]

My calc didn't account for such a short half-life, It accounted for 3-10 days per high given what I already read about this person.
That's not how half life works, it isn't 3-10 days per high. Do you understand what half life is? I'm sure you will google it before you answer it if you don't but it doesn't mena that each high is eliminated in 3-10 days, far from it.


In fact you just ended saying the same thing as me "you might be clean in 7-10 days".
That's not what I said or meant. I wasn't agreeing with you at all just. I said "may" and it was supposed to be understood as you may, you may not be clean, who knows for sure. I thought it made sense but you misunderstood it.


I'm not trying to come off with attitude towards you fakeboobs,
I just don't understand why you would flame my answer only to state what I already did?

I will tell you why, because despite taking his muscle mass, activity level, smoking history, no one can predict or estimate with any certainty because we know nothing about his genetic make up. Genetics play a huge role in THC metabolism and even if he was at 2% body fat and rode a stationary bike for 2 hours a day he might still have a half-life of 10 days because of genetics. The liver actually metabolizes and eliminates more THC than the kidneys and genetics play a huge role in liver function. I never try to estimate pass or failures except for those who haven't smoked in a very very long time or those who have smoked once and hadn't smoked in months. I call those 1 time highs and still I give disclaimers. I wasn't trying to flame you either I just wanted BWG to see my post and what I thought. You sat there and started off saying "we" don't care about anything but the last 4 weeks. Well speak for yourself, I do care about his smoking history beyond the last 4 weeks. Then you were trying hard to give him an estimate. Your calculations were fuzzy math at best and obviously they don't always come out right as you said you have failed some tests. I never tried to pin down a number, I said that his increased muscle mass was probably increasing his basal metabolic rate but I never tried to give him a range of days it would take for him to get clean. Guess how many tests I have failed in the last 15 years? Then despite all the info I gave him, I stil told him to use his wife's urine. Did you say that? NOPE!

The way I answered his question and the way you answered his question was completely different.

BWG, again, the point of practicing isn't to slow the temperature drop, it is to learn to keep your sample's temp at 90-100 degrees indefinitely. You just don't realize how much heat you give off. I have carried a sample for hours and not even worried about how slow the lab techs were taking as I sat there in the waiting room forever.

[BWG]

Well I practiced with just body heat and the water temp was 97.6 when I stuffed it down there and I took a reading every 30 minutes. The temp actually went up 1 degree, I feel very confident now.

[BWG]

Ok guys, they want to do a blood test and a piss test. Do i need to worry about the blood test? I have until Friday at 10am. I really need this job it's $25 a hour.

[killerweed420]

No problem on the blood test and if you're subbing for the UA you should be good to go.
Good Luck on your new job

[BWG]

Thanks, do you know if they will be able to tell if the piss and blood don't match up. Is the Piss being from a women a issue?

[FakeBoobsRule]

No its not an issue being from a woman or else I wouldn't have told you to use it. There is a search feature and the substitution sticky you really should use. For instance, the blood test only has a detection window of about 72 hours and has been answered many times before as well as gender of the urine donor.

Nothing out of the ordinary should show up if they run bloodwork and the urine from someone else. The bloodwork might also be for other than drug testing.

[dawninthemorning]

Some of those heat packs are too strong. I find they are really only useful when you need to heat your sample up more quickly than with body heat alone. Practice with body heat alone and I'm sure you will be surprised at how much heat your body gives off.

Your prescriptions will not cause false positives.

When looking at heat pads the BEST is the ones for the feet (to be put in work boots and such) made by heatmax-they only get to 104. Or the ones that get be directly applied to skin, these also have a good temp.

[IIQuickSilverII]

Well I practiced with just body heat and the water temp was 97.6 when I stuffed it down there and I took a reading every 30 minutes. The temp actually went up 1 degree, I feel very confident now.

very conforting post as ill be in the same boat tomorrow morning.....
yes... nervousness is kicking in.... GOOD LUCK !!!

[BWG]

very conforting post as ill be in the same boat tomorrow morning.....
yes... nervousness is kicking in.... GOOD LUCK !!!

Yeah less than two days. getting nervous.

[jeffman]

Yeah less than two days. getting nervous.
Good Luck, You have all the info...:D

[killerweed420]

Yeah just be careful on the heat pads they can heat it up too much.Thats why I take a digital thermometer and stuff it in my sock to make sure the temp is right.

[BWG]

Ok a few more questions I didn't see answers to in the sub thread. I got my wifes pee in the fridge now and it's 6:05pm, the sample will be taken around 11am tomorrow. I see the thread said it will be ok the freezer but will the pee be ok in the fridge for that long? I'll be leaving around 9am tomorrow.

[killerweed420]

I'm sure it'll be fine for that much time in the refrig.If you've got your technique down you should be good to go.Good Luck.

[BWG]

Leaving in two hours, I'm also getting a physical. Hopefully they don't ask me to strip.

[BWG]

passed, worked great and was so easy. And I feel good about it.

Would have posted last night but I was so high I couldn't move.

[jeffman]

Congrats...:smokin: Still Winston