View Full Version : So how do you know when you need rehab?
DebuteMachine23
08-22-2007, 04:48 PM
Has anyone ever been to rehab for weed? Could you share your stories? Just considering some hypothetical options here.
Matt the Funk
08-22-2007, 04:50 PM
If weed is only making your life negative. It's time to take a break. And if you can't, i'd consider counseling over rehab, even though there is counseling in rehab. Just go to a normal counseler, or drug one. Doesn't matter.
Jadian21
08-22-2007, 04:52 PM
Rehab would be necessary when/if you decide you want to stop doing something and don't have the personal willpower to stop, or if said drug is negatively impacting your life in whatever ways.
It's really a personal choice thing though, you put someone who doesn't want to be in rehab into rehab and it probably won't mean a damn thing once they get out.
Chronisseur
08-22-2007, 04:53 PM
If you could give a little background I may be able to help or atleast save you some time!:)
xcrispi
08-22-2007, 04:53 PM
1st time you have to ask yourself subconciously if you have a prob. or not is a pretty good indication .
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:
13thirteen
08-22-2007, 04:55 PM
Well I never went to rehab for strickly weed, but I was sick with a painful disease for 16 long years and took alot of narcotic pain meds and after so long on them I became totally dependant on them and had to go to rehab to detox off of them. I have been clean off the pills for a while now and only smoke and I don't think smoking effects my daily life in a negative way like the pills.
igot4cheep
08-22-2007, 05:00 PM
I don't bleave in hypothetical qustion. Do you think you need rehab for weed?
Purple Banana
08-22-2007, 05:08 PM
When your song about going to rehab is in the Top 40 charts for over two weeks...
Why would someone go to rehab for pot? If you feel like you don't like it anymore, just quit...
Jadian21
08-22-2007, 05:29 PM
Some people don't have the willpower to quit anything.
And I've seen plenty of people who would benefit greatly from laying off the pot for a while who simply give excuses like "You can't get addicted to pot" or "at least it's not <insert other drug here>".
The fact is weed isn't for everybody, and some people do get some form of addiction or another. It's a matter of the affects it may be having on your life and if that's something you want to change.
DebuteMachine23
08-22-2007, 05:32 PM
See heres the thing. Me and Miss Mary Jane are madly in love. So in love, that almost all of my time is dedicated to her. Or thinking about her, or when I get to have an intimate session with her. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love Mary Jane. She just isn't giving me the space I need. So what should I do?
Jadian21
08-22-2007, 05:35 PM
Are you ditching work/class/responsibilities to get stoned? Are you spending more money on pot than you should and thus coming up short on bills? Do you plan to go do something productive and then get stoned and do nothing instead?
If you're answering yes then put down the pipe for a while and see if the pot is enabling you to make excuses for not doing these things. If you're still lazy, broke, and unhappy, then shit start smoking again because then at least you'll be high, lazy, broke, and unhappy.
iNHALE.xHALE.
08-22-2007, 05:48 PM
-when you feel that you cant function normally withought a substance and feel not only phisically, but also mentally dependant on any substance..
but never been to rehab just for weed...
The Colonel
08-22-2007, 05:59 PM
I went to rehab for only weed,,
but that was only because the court
agreed to expunge my charges if i completed
rehab. so i guess i didnt have to go to it
but im happy i did because i have no record now.
I Justburn 247
08-22-2007, 06:31 PM
you cannot become physically dependent upon weed like most other drugs but you CAN become mentally dependent meaning pretty much that you like to smoke a little too much and it becomes an issue in your life that affects other responsibilities. rehab is primarily for destroying physical dependencies and all that. if you think weed is hurting you then you really need to just stop for a while or decide how you can smoke and still be responsible ya know?
Stay high.
420MissHighTimes420
08-22-2007, 06:58 PM
when your hurting yourself and the people around you because of the drug
or your giving bjs for weed hahhahaah
smoke it
08-22-2007, 08:01 PM
you should consider rehab when a drug starts to keep you from living your life
burnable
08-22-2007, 08:26 PM
you cannot become physically dependent upon weed like most other drugs but you CAN become mentally dependent meaning pretty much that you like to smoke a little too much and it becomes an issue in your life that affects other responsibilities. rehab is primarily for destroying physical dependencies and all that. if you think weed is hurting you then you really need to just stop for a while or decide how you can smoke and still be responsible ya know?
Stay high.
this is a common rationale that really makes no sense. Certainly you can be physically addicted to weed. If not so, analgesic medicinal properties of weed would be nonexistent. How would it help with physical pain if it didn't carry the risk of physical addiction? Does it only treat psychosomatic disorders? Hell no.
The reason you can separate weed addiction from addiction to other drugs is because weed addiction has mild short and long term effects (for most). You could compare it to coffee addiction or a food addiction (both are physically real). But one can carry on these addictions and function in a relatively normal way and there's no stigma attached to those commonplace things. I believe weed would be the least harmful of these common addictions, though.
Also, the perceived physical need for a fix with stronger drugs is more extreme than that of herb.
fasterspider
08-22-2007, 09:37 PM
Rehab for weed? Insane thinking.
Rehabs are for drug addicts that need to gain a foundation to live in society without drugs and or alcohol as your crutch.
I went to a rehab right from 5 months in jail because I was a full on drug addict and the rehab helped me gain the footing I have under me now.
It is almost 7 years and I still do not do drugs but, I would never think of rehab for weed. I smoked weed in the rehab for being a drug addict.
Weed has kept me from being an addicted to narcotics type of addict for a long time.
BabyFacedAbortion
08-22-2007, 09:42 PM
you go to rehab when the judge tells you it's that or jail.
edit:
Weed is not a physically addictive substance. That's like going to rehab for cigarettes. While you CAN go, because it's a drug and illegal, you probably won't get much out of it. They brain-wash you with programs not far from the 12-steps, and completely fuck with your head. Unless you honestly believe that pot is controlling your life, counseling or even just a smoke break would be more effective and less costly.
geonagual
08-22-2007, 10:03 PM
So, your asking for a divorce from Mary Jane.....if your asking yourself this question, then please seek help, divorce mary jane and never come back to this board again.
psteve
08-22-2007, 10:16 PM
No reputable rehab will even admit you for just weed. If you think you're addicted to weed, they will refer you to a psychiatrist.
It just isn't addicting.
psteve
08-22-2007, 10:18 PM
this is a common rationale that really makes no sense. Certainly you can be physically addicted to weed. If not so, analgesic medicinal properties of weed would be nonexistent. How would it help with physical pain if it didn't carry the risk of physical addiction? Does it only treat psychosomatic disorders? Hell no.
The reason you can separate weed addiction from addiction to other drugs is because weed addiction has mild short and long term effects (for most). You could compare it to coffee addiction or a food addiction (both are physically real). But one can carry on these addictions and function in a relatively normal way and there's no stigma attached to those commonplace things. I believe weed would be the least harmful of these common addictions, though.
Also, the perceived physical need for a fix with stronger drugs is more extreme than that of herb.Bullshit. Pure bullshit. Ask a doctor.
GotWake88
08-22-2007, 10:27 PM
Cannabis is not physically addictive. What physical withdrawal symtoms do you experience? Tremors? Seizures? Dysentary? That's what physical addiction does. Maybe the reason you can't quit is because you truly do not want to. If you sit on your ass and watch TV for a month straight, then up and decide to quit watching TV, life in the real world might seem less interesting also. Same goes for bud. That said, its puffin time for me.
if you have to go to rehab for weed, you have less will power than the guys who appear on to catch a predator. if you think you are doing it too much dont do it as much or stop. youll be bored with daily activity for like a day or two. that is about as bad as quitting weed is. it isnt worth quitting anyway reallybut if you have to it shouldnt be a big deal
Chronisseur
08-22-2007, 10:48 PM
There's a fine line in between the views of burnable and PSteve. You may be "dependent" on the weed relieving your pain, but it's not pain CAUSED by an addiction. The physical dependency is less than that of an avid coffe drinker.
My advice...low regimne of ibuprophen and a new hobby. One of the most important things for quitting smoking, will be to fill your time with other activities.
Good luck buddy!
burnable
08-22-2007, 10:56 PM
There's a fine line in between the views of burnable and PSteve. You may be "dependent" on the weed relieving your pain, but it's not pain CAUSED by an addiction. The physical dependency is less than that of an avid coffe drinker.
My advice...low regimne of ibuprophen and a new hobby. One of the most important things for quitting smoking, will be to fill your time with other activities.
Good luck buddy!
I can go along with that.
The stuff I said actually is based on what I've heard from doctors. Doctors disagree though, especially with addiction. The surface is just getting scratched in that area.
nightlight
08-22-2007, 11:07 PM
See heres the thing. Me and Miss Mary Jane are madly in love. So in love, that almost all of my time is dedicated to her. Or thinking about her, or when I get to have an intimate session with her. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love Mary Jane. She just isn't giving me the space I need. So what should I do?
you should stop thinking of cannabis as an individual.
Chronisseur
08-22-2007, 11:13 PM
you should stop thinking of cannabis as an individual.
That is actually good advice! The more you continue to personify weed, the more of an emotional attachment you build.
MadSativa
08-22-2007, 11:21 PM
You know you need rehab when you are doing drugs.......at least drugs that you cant stop doin...........herb is rarly a rehab drug infact I dont even like to call it a drug........most people dont call cigarets or coffe or sugar drugs but yet they are why do we have to call the cannbis plant a drug it comes from the earth and is not refined to some kinda DRUG. Even the cola plant is good for you only when refined and made into something else is it a DRUG. People in Chile drink and chew cola leves every day and when foriners go to Chile Peru they first thing they give you is chocolattte not chocolat but a drink with coco and cola leves it helps to aclimate you to the climate and it is like coffe its is not addicting as coffe yet is is the bad Drug????????????????????Rehab this question belongs in a forum for real DRUG users not Cannabis smokers
the joint meister
08-22-2007, 11:23 PM
weed is not adicting, stop spread the lies and start spreading the love!
peace out TjM
burnable
08-22-2007, 11:44 PM
I should be more diplomatic in my choice of words. In fact you could probably just insert the word "dependence" for every time I typed "addiction" and there wouldn't have been such polarizing responses. I tried to use the word 'addiction' in a context that it would perhaps not have all the baggage and stigma that comes to mind when thinking 'meth addiction'. Simple words are not boogey-men, but that's how people respond sometimes.
I meant that a weed 'hobby' is benign. It often doesn't require revision or prohibition and certainly not rehab, in the same sense that coffee dependence wouldn't require those things.
I also tried to de-segregate physical and psychological addiction. What does it matter what kind of an addiction it is? The point is what deleterious influences abound and how your relationships to people and to life are affected? Fortunately with weed, those are usually not even considerations.
geonagual
08-23-2007, 03:44 AM
I smoke weed daily...
Purple Banana
08-23-2007, 03:57 AM
Trust me, I have used both Rx opiates and weed for painkillers.
Weed is not physically addictive.
savagepossum
08-23-2007, 04:13 AM
Some of you people are in serious denial, even though you are fighting against ignorant and closed minded people your becoming exactly like them by denying any possibility of addiction even though at the end of the day it comes down to personal experiance.
I have first hand seen people who have straight up given up on life and just don't care anymore and spend there whole time smoking weed and buying weed to escape there own personal problems and suddenly lose any previous ambitions they once had.
there are ALOT of people for which weed is bad for and only a few who can handle it and use it properly in moderation.
psteve
08-23-2007, 04:51 AM
Some of you people are in serious denial, even though you are fighting against ignorant and closed minded people your becoming exactly like them by denying any possibility of addiction even though at the end of the day it comes down to personal experiance.
I have first hand seen people who have straight up given up on life and just don't care anymore and spend there whole time smoking weed and buying weed to escape there own personal problems and suddenly lose any previous ambitions they once had.
there are ALOT of people for which weed is bad for and only a few who can handle it and use it properly in moderation.
:rolleyes::tin foil hat:
Where do you get your information?
What studies are you citing when you say cannabis is addictive?
Sorry mate, but your personal 'experiance' doesn't hold much weight compared with a professor of toxicology (my former doctor) who says otherwise.
Your friends with the self treated depression are not addicted. It's a fact, no denial involved. I have done the research, and there is no credible study citing any addictive properties of cannabis.
Period.
MadSativa
08-23-2007, 05:05 AM
Some of you people are in serious denial, even though you are fighting against ignorant and closed minded people your becoming exactly like them by denying any possibility of addiction even though at the end of the day it comes down to personal experiance.
I have first hand seen people who have straight up given up on life and just don't care anymore and spend there whole time smoking weed and buying weed to escape there own personal problems and suddenly lose any previous ambitions they once had.
there are ALOT of people for which weed is bad for and only a few who can handle it and use it properly in moderation.
haha your friends are week minded or mabey the they are just like u said they dont care anymore.........here dude we all care(we care about this dumb ass prohibition and we car about our countries and we car enough to make money to keep life movin )and smoking weed does not give you an escape where do you escape too???? your thinkig of alcohol not herb.....if you run out of herb tomarrow youll just be like damm wish I had some herb but if your using other things even alchohol if u run out tomarrow mor thatn likely if the adiction has hit you, you are gonna find a drink weather its spit in a glass or robbing the liquor store you will need your fix herb does not do this... if it does its not the herb its whatever someone put in it that your now hooked on
Purple Banana
08-23-2007, 06:17 AM
Weed can bring out parts of people's personalities that can already be evident BEFORE they smoke weed- usually they were a good bit lazy before weed, and weed can accentuate that behavior, but to claim weed is physically addicting due to an observation made on a certain type of person is baseless. What about the other people with higher education, the university professors, doctors, teachers... Surely you can't make the same claim about them.
Maggz
08-23-2007, 12:39 PM
you need rehab for weed if it's affecting your relationship with your children and/or family in a negative way, or if you hit your all-time low, whatever it is, be it prostituting your goodies for weed money or stealing $$$ for weed .. THEN you know u might have a problem..
if ur just lazy & love getting high , well .... thats natural, but have some self control and take control of ya life. no need for REHAB lol, shits expensive too. fuck that.
burnable
08-23-2007, 11:53 PM
Weed can bring out parts of people's personalities that can already be evident BEFORE they smoke weed- usually they were a good bit lazy before weed, and weed can accentuate that behavior, but to claim weed is physically addicting due to an observation made on a certain type of person is baseless. What about the other people with higher education, the university professors, doctors, teachers... Surely you can't make the same claim about them.
couldn't agree with you more there. You also reinforced my comment about how a weed habit is benign and can be maintained responsibly by stalwart people (including profs, doctors, etc.)
If a person has the predisposition to binge and get hooked on something, they'll find something to do it with. Unfortunately for us, sometimes it's weed that they abuse, which shouldn't reflect badly on weed, but only on themselves. It's what I meant when I mentioned junk food and coffee. It's often not the substance itself, but the loser hiding behind it trying to escape something that needs reform.
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