sea of green grow hows it work!!!

[smokinbuds21]

ive heard a lot about these sea of green grows and its kinda right up my alley i have small grow space and many little plants

how do you get the plants to grow all the same hieght?

how long do you let the plants veg for?

from what ive read theres only top colas but if you have many its worth it

ive also heard you can harvest every 60 days if everything goes right

i also wanted to know if you can use seedlings when doing this ill have to the first time but the second time will be all cloned females

ive also of heard of flowering plants when real small when doing sog style with clones can this be done with seedlings also with out taking for ever

basicly i need all the details and need to know how to set my box up and what do i need to buy?

please would love any feed back!!!!

[smokinbuds21]

maybe even a link so you dont have to explain

[blink_inc]

read, read, read. There is a ton of information that has been written again and again.

however to answer your questions:

if they are all clones from one mom they should all grow the same in a stable environment.

you can veg as little as seven days from the clippings rooting.

you can harvest in less than 60days if the strain is right.

grow the seedlings into moms and fill your space with clones in 6" square pots.

this can be done with seedlings also but you might have a problem sexing properly??. (High Times had an article recently on 12/12 from seed)

your box like everyone elses here is unique and needs to be designed for the space you will be using. read on temperature control, adequate lighting, ventilation, grow medium, nutrients, problem solving, germination, clipping and harvesting.

I'm just ansering this 'cause you probably wouldn't get much of an answer otherwise. What you ask is asked in every fifth or sixth post. If you have a specific question, posting just the one question will not only help those of us asking the same question get answers, it will help you get answers too.

good luck with your grow, you will find that there are some VERY educated people here that will give you top notch advice that is worth it's weight in pounds.

[jamstigator]

You can veg 0 days with the clones, I am reasonably certain, at least with some strains. In other words, put clones in little pot, and flower immediately, the same day. I've tried two SOG experiments now, using Nirvana AK-48. The first time I gave them 5 days after potting them, and they're 3.5 feet tall now at day 48 of flowering, even though they were at most 5" tall to start. The second time I gave them a mere 2 days after potting them, and those plants are 31" tall now, not counting the pot, at day 28 of flowering, even though they were like 3" or 4" tall to start and had had only two days to spread their roots before flowering. Freakin' amazing how big they have gotten considering how tiny they were to start.

You're going to have to experiment to find the right point for your height limitations and the strains you are working with. If you are severely height-constrained, I'd suggest flowering them immediately the first time, and work your way up from there if necessary with future crops. If height's not an issue, then it doesn't matter much I guess.

[smokinbuds21]

well im gonna try this out with clones and seedlings all plants are now the same hieght not saying they will all grow the same length but when i use the screen how far do i set them from the plants?

and how fay do i set the lights above the screen?

and is an aluuminum screen good for this?

[jamstigator]

Sea of green and screen of green are two different things. If you're doing sea of green, with many small clones, I don't think you need or want a screen. If you're doing screen of green, with like 1-4(ish) larger plants trained under a screen, I keep the screen about 10"-12" above the soil level, train the screen until it's about 2/3 full during veg, then flower. Then I let the screen fill all the way up before letting the buds straighten up, usually about a week and then I let 'em through (but this is *very* strain-dependent, some strains love to stretch way more than others).

Keep the lights as close as you can without it being too uncomfortable to put your hand where the tops of the plants are. A bit warm is okay, but if it makes you uncomfortably warm, it will the plants too.

I don't think the material of the screen matters much, if at all. I use plastic screening, but I've seen people use coat hangers, metal rods, closet organizers, you name it.

[smokinbuds21]

damn i thought you had to use a screen to get those top colas only for many young plants how do you get those plants to grow like that short veg short plant and then flower quick i thought thats what the screen was for now dont even no what to do or how to do to get all those plants with just top cola's???????????????

[smokinbuds21]

ok well i googled it and found out scrog is for one ot 2 plants and sog is for many and from what ive read you just pu the lights up and plants close as i possibly can let them grow for 2-3 weeks and then switch to flowering

did i miss anything?

please im kinda running outta time how far is the light spose to be? sence my box is only like 3 ft tall should i just put the light as high as i can get it?

[jamstigator]

If your box is only 3 feet tall, you need to flower sexually mature clones immediately. (Clones that were taken from a sexually mature female.) That's if you want to try a sea of green.

However, with only 3 feet, I dunno if that'll work very well. My clones, that I flowered at 3" or 4" in height, are now more than 31" tall, not counting the pot, after 29 days of flowering. Counting the pot, they are 3 feet tall. If that happens to you, you'd have 0" for light and space between the light and the plants, which wouldn't work.

So, I recommend Screen of Green. Put your light as high up as you can get it. Create a screen out of whatever, and put that about 8" above the soil line. Then grow your plants until the screen is a bit more than half filled with bud sites. Then flower, and if anything gets too close to the light, tie it off to the side. Once you start flowering, wait until the screen's full before letting them grow vertically, and no matter what, wait at least a week or 10 days because height is going to be an issue. I have a feeling it's gonna be pretty dang tight in there. I'd use two or three plants in smallish pots (small = not tall), but don't use seedlings, just clones of a female, because if they prove to be male, disentangling them from the screen could suck. I'd say just try ONE plant unless you're using seedlings, then I'd go with three, to better the odds of females.

If you *have* to use seedlings, and that 3-foot height is all you can use, then make small screens, instead of just one big screen, and use wire-snipped coathangers and duct tape or whatever to attach a smaller screen to each individual pot. That way, if you get a male you can just pull that pot/plant/screen combo out as a unit.

Hope some of that was helpful. ;)

[smokinbuds21]

ok so if i make screens for all my seedlings got it makes better sence that way sence no hieght your so right!!

the only thing i have regular screen a hole lot of really small holes i mean small!!!!!

so do i cut holes big enough for the shoots to come through? if so how big half inch or an inch big?

and when that screen is filled i switch to flowering or half full?

thanx for all the details on this your the best jamstigater

[smokinbuds21]

well just ran into a BIG problem where we have are grow box whitch is my friends house he cant have it there anymore hes got someone moving in has to get rid of the box should we just put these babies out side really have no choice!!! so im probley gonna just let nature take its corse!!!!!!!!! sorry and thanx for all the info i guess ill have to take up outdoor growing!!!

it kinda sucks though i think growing indoors gives better bud and safer but outdoors is fine if you know a good place!

[jamstigator]

Heh, good luck with your new outdoor grow! ;)

[Foskers]

God...so much science to this. I can't do it. I wish Marijuana was as easy to grow as:
-drops seed in hole in the ground-
...
-leaves-
...
-comes back to a beautiful 8 footer-
>.< I don't understand why it has to be so hard...I wanna grow...but everything I read is like..an insane amount of time,work, and money...none of which I have in generous supply.

[smokinbuds21]

Heh, good luck with your new outdoor grow! ;)

sorry sorry

false alarm he does not have a room mate moving in now so every thing is cool sorry jam youre very helpful and love havin you on my threads please dont quit on me

foskers what the hell is that trust me its annoying sometimes but its a great hobbie to me one of the things i ove doin is checkin on my plants i get to see them once every two days to see what they have done

if you like smokin weed and not lazy its for you!

it coulb be more of a guy thing! then again i no stinky attic is a women that knows basicly everything there is to no!

i tell you what i wish i had a women like that its good to have a fine women specaily that knows alot about something i love doing!

so indoor it is

[smokinbuds21]

jams i have another question if u havent gave up on me?

we made screens to day a foot long 6 inch wide this should be big enough i think we had 8 plants and took the 3 healthyest plants all diffrent strains

my question is we cut 6 3/4 holes in each screen thats where the main buds/stem/head's will grow through?

sence my screens arent that big im gonna veg for only 2 weeks maybe 3 depends on how fast they all grow! is this ok? and when the plant starts to grow onto the net should i tie it down to the screen and the plant will grow through the screen as needed?

[jamstigator]

Let me show ya a few pics. First, here's a pic of a screen I made with some wire cutters and a closet organizer I got at WalMart. Second is some plants using screens like that -- you can see how I attached them to pots with duct tape and clothes hangers. And finally, there's a single-screen (handmade outta wood and plastic screening) multi-plant ScroG pic a week or three into flowering.

You train them under the screen until the screen is about 2/3 full normally, but because of your height limitations, I recommend you only let it get half filled. Then start flowering, but don't let them through the screen just yet. Let it go another week or 10 days into flowering and keep training them under the screen, then let them through.

Sorry if the pics are kinda sucky; didn't really anticipate ever needing to show anyone these pics, so I cleaned 'em up best I could. ;)

Also, the droopy plants in the middle - there's a sign of overwatering. (Also get droopy like that if you underwater too.) That was my first crop ever, and I did make some mistakes.

[smokinbuds21]

ahh pictures the best thing in the world very nice for 1st i might add

you put me to shame ill give you that im using screen that like a trpe of fence or something? anyways i guess i need more holes in my screen i only have six when did you put the screen on your plants ever sence they were babys? mine are 2 seedlings a week old and one clone is 3 weeks old and growing should i let the plants just grow up onto the screen????

heres to pics so u can tell me what i need to do! and if i have to cut holes or even redu it i dont care

[jamstigator]

Yep, get 'em attached to your pots, and let the plants grow up into them. Then keep an eye out for males, and yank those as soon as you see the bananas. I don't think those screens you made are gonna work -- you need some kind of grid with 1" or 1.5" square holes, or hexagonal holes, something. They sell deer fencing (to keep deer out of gardens), plastic, square grid, for like $10 for a 50' roll. That's what I used for the larger screen with multiple plants under it.

The little screens I made were actually kind of expensive, because they want like $15 for each closet organizer drawer, but they sure are sturdy. The plus with those is that you don't need a strong material around the edges to hold the bendable stuff in the middle, because it's *all* strong; I think it's steel with a white plastic coating.

[smokinbuds21]

damn that sucks figured as much did you tie down your plants to the grid?

damn that sucks so bad what can i use i cant use like a hanger and make grid out of that? or even strong wire?

what if i use the same screen im using just cut bigger blocks like youres its pritty sterdy strong enough to hold a plant i can ensure that! and i can also use trash bag ties to tie to the screen only thing that will fit through the holes!

yea your right that screen just wont work!

[smokinbuds21]

ok well i went over to my friends house we riged some old hangers together we made it pritty strong!

lets see if i got this after i grows up on to the screen i tie it down and let it grow sideways or do i let it grow st8 up through the holes?

will other branches branch off and try to grow through the holes? or do i tie down and train it ti grow through the holes? i really ant sure how to or train it ti grow?

well heres a pic i think im just gonna tie down to let it grow side ways and let the main heads buds grow st8 up after tying it side ways it should branch off with other branches that swhat usualy happens anyways just tell me what you think

[jamstigator]

You shouldn't have to tie them at all. When they pop their heads above the screen, just gently push them back under, so they're bent over horizontal, until you're ready to let them grow vertically. The screen will hold them down, no tying needed. But if you do need to tie them down, that won't hurt anything, just don't tie them too tightly.

[blink_inc]

get chicken wire.
I used 2" and it worked fine.
In the amount of time it takes to construct your own screen, you can buy it for like 14 bucks for a 25" roll.

[smokinbuds21]

well im kinda hands on any ways i rather take old materials in the shop and garage and see what happens! anyways this screen should work fine im not worried about it falling apart or anything like that!

jams so i am starting to understand now what your sayin i dont have to tie after it grow about an inch or to above the screen ill keep stuffing under screen untill im ready and in my case like you said half full! then ill let the heads come up and flower! thanx man this is gonna be great if it works!

[jamstigator]

I think it'll work out for ya! ;)

[smokinbuds21]

everythings working out and ok now!

i am wondering if your using compact cfl's and alot of them for veg only how far should they be if i put them 6 inch's above the plant will this make it grow a little faster?

my friend also got something at the store and wanted me to ask yall if you ever heard of it theres one thing that is called SUPER THRIVE its not a fertilizer its vitamins and hormones is this stuff good? it says makes plants grow 2 times faster and sence we added this to the feed they have been doing fine and i think a little faster it says you can add to seedlings also but will just wate

the other one is called BEASTIE BUDS and one of our other friend the person that wanted the hermi so he got it we gave a little of that beastie duds and the super thrive together and the plant has been doing great!!! buds are even growing bigger now and faster now

beastie buds is 0-50-30 and it says just for flowering only just would like to know if any body has had any past with these items

jams hows everything going?

[smokinbuds21]

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