First Grow from Bagseed w/Pics

[miley]

Hello all. After reading everyones posts for a week or so I finally decided to post some pics of my plants. These plants are from bagseed and are about 5 1/2 weeks old right now. I have 4 plants this old right now but only have pics of the 2 for right now. Like I said they are from random bags i've had over the last few months. Mainly becuase i didnt want to shell out the money for good seeds and mess everything up on the first try. These plants were started under 24/0 light under 2-48" flouo's with cool white bulbs. Thats it. They have been getting a standard garden fert once a week under measured so not to over fert. The last 3 days i have cut the light to 20/4 and tonight switched it to 16/8 with hopes of starting flowering soon. I am pretty sure these are standard Indica's but would love someone to either confirm that or correct me. Also I have included one close up pic of what i think is a preflower. Please let me know if that is correct and if it is too early to tell sex yet.
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/500/medium/plant1b.jpg
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/500/medium/plant1.jpg
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/500/medium/Plant3and2.jpg
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/500/medium/preflower.jpg

[Matt the Funk]

I think they look good haha

[socialistpete]

You should have had them on 18/6 the whole time. And generally speaking commercial weed is more sativa.

[miley]

R U sure pete? I actually heard the opposite to both things you said.

[highallthetime]

They look pretty good , 2 me .
Healthy and GREEN ! :D
They look like one strain I used to Grow ( afghani # 1) :rasta:

Are you budding or still on Vegetative stage ?

Keep it up

:thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

looks like a nice indica, Miley. Can't tell yet, but I'll guess that it will be a female.

Sho

[mjdragon]

Hel Miley, nice pics.:thumbsup:

In answer to your sexing question, I would bank on that being a female (well i'd put £10 on it anyway :)) Mine looked exactly the same and they were all female preflowers.

Now i'm no expert on this (or anything else when I think about it :jointsmile:), but I think its a regular indica, due to the broad leaf structure. I believe sativa's have a more narrow thin leaf, but I could be wrong on that one.

Ditch the aluminium foil BTW, you'd be better with flat white paint.

All looks great anyway. Keep us posted!

[miley]

Hey Highallthetime. Thanks for the reply. Got 2 days for veg left to finish the 6 week grow then switching to flowering on thursday. Afgani 1 huh. sweet.

Hey Shovelhandle. I sure as hell hope its a female its the biggest one i got so far. Should have some more pics posted soon.

Peace,

[miley]

Hey Mjdragon. I hope your right about the sex. I have 4 plants going now so i am hopeing to get at least 2 females. I'll get to the hardware store and get some white paint but just figured the foils gotta at least be helping a little bit.

Peace,

[growin then tokin]

like most of the people here, im no expert, hell, im not even in kindergarten, but it was my understanding that fems had long thin preflowers, and males had groupings of short stubby preflowers.
but then again, i dont know for sure
and i dont know what hes talkin about, my grow area is lined with tinfoil and mine are doing just fine as far as i know

[xxxhazexxx]

they look really nice and healthy well done,they look like an indica to me or a cross indica-sativa the leaf blades are to wide to be sativa

[miley]

Hey Thanks guys for checking out the pics and for the advice. I'm with ya on the foil thing. I read that it causes hot spots but as long as you got a fan blowing through there it shouldnt be a problem. Starting flowering ttommorow. Hooray!!! More pics coming in a few days.

Peace

[the image reaper]

Congratulations !, nice healthy looking plants you have there ... remarkably good for a first grow ... :thumbsup:

[miley]

This is week 6 for my four plants and i have cut the light back tonight to 12/12. Got some good pics of all the plants for ya. Here is my biggest plant it is about 14 inches tall right now.
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/667/medium/P1week6-1.jpg
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/667/medium/P1week6-2.jpg

Plant 2 isnt as lush as plant one and is 10 inches tall. I think the lack of size may be the fact thats it's root bound in that small cup but i dont wanna waste the effort now transplanting it. I'm just gonna sex it and if its a female then i'll get a bigger pot.
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/667/medium/P2week6-1.jpg
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/667/medium/P2week6-2.jpg

PLant number 3 looks nothing like the other 3 and i assume it is an indica sativa mix. Its rather short about 8 inches and has a wider wing span on its bottom fan leaves. Anyone know what it is?
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/667/medium/P3week6-1.jpg
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/667/medium/P3week6-2.jpg

Plant 4 is a stout little thing but is only 6 inches tall. It was in a quart milk jug right before i transplanted it and snapped this pic. Hence the claw like leaves. At least thats what i think. Though short it is very dense with lots of potential bud sites.
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/667/medium/P4week6-1.jpg
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/667/medium/P4week6-2.jpg

I snapped some more pics of the preflowers on plant 1 and sharpened them quite a bit w/ photoshop. Thinking its female anyone agree?

http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/667/medium/preflower1.jpg
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/667/medium/preflower2.jpg

Lastly here are 2 pics of the 6 plants i started 2 weeks ago. Same veg as the first 4. 24/0 with 1-48" Fluro with cool whites. I have an experiment i'm gonna try on one of them tommorow. More on that too come.

http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/667/medium/Group1week2.jpg
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/667/medium/Group2week2.jpg


Comments welcome!:D

[hempnation]

i think its too early to tell yet, looks promising tho, keep up the good work

[jamstigator]

Looks like a female, but I'd look for more/longer pistils to be sure, probably coupla days or so.

[miley]

Quick update. Finally was able to get some 4' warm white tubes for my shop lights. Had to goto 3 different stores to get them. Gonna swap one into each of my 2 shop lights tonight. Today is day 2 of flowering and i am hoping to see some little hairs soon. I bought a 10x loupe to help me see better but its totally worthless so I ordered a 30x one. New pics in a few days.

Peace

[miley]

Well today is the start of week 7 for my first 4 plants and week 3 for the other 6. The first 4 plants have been in a week of 12/12 now and I am pretty sure plants 1 and 4 are males. I freaked last night when i saw the balls and posted pics in the grow lounge forum. Several members confirmed them to be males so tonight i will take care of them. They were my favorite 2 plants too. bummer :( Its ironic because the only child i have i hoped would be male and wasnt(still love her anyway) but i wished for female plants and got males. Karmas a bitch. I'm gonna go do some chopping tonight and rearrange my grow space and get some pics.

[Earthy Dank]

What kind of lights are you using?? 2 48" floro's??? You need HID

[miley]

Just 2 dual bulb 48' shoplights each with a cool and a warm bulb. I have a dual cfl with reflector coming in soon. Wish i had the room for and could afford better lights but my grow space is not suitable for anything other than what i have. More pics in a few hours.

[miley]

Well here are the pics from the execution I held tonight. Though not chopped yet they've been getting chewed on for a few hours now. Bring on the carnage! More pics of my other plants in a bit.

[miley]

With the demise of my favorite 2 plants tonight I have decided to take the other 6-3week old plants i have and put them under 12/12 tonight. I know its early but I have read several different things on here that say its ok and its not. I need females! Dammit. First 2 pics are of my 6 young plants ready to enter 12/12. They are looking pretty good except the one in the cup is lagging cause i accidently knocked the cup over 2 weeks ago.

Plant 2 is still really lanky and probably should have been topped and transplanted by now but I am just gonna wait till it shows sex.

Plant 3 the more sativa hybrid looking plant is really loving the extra space in the closet now thanks to the death of "her" brothers. Last pic is a close up of its pre flowers. Any thoughts people?

[Earthy Dank]

if you plan on flowering those guys you are going to need alot more light... The benchmark is 50 watts per square foot of grow area. You have maybe 80 watt? Look for a bunch of those 42w 2900k CFLs. Those work graet for flowering.
Get about 6 and thats a 250w CFL. They have y adapters so u can put 2 in one ballast and they sell cheap socket ballast at home depot. The more light... the bigger the buds..

[Earthy Dank]

Well here are the pics from the execution I held tonight. Though not chopped yet they've been getting chewed on for a few hours now. Bring on the carnage! More pics of my other plants in a bit.

Becareful you are training your cat to chew on weed plants... That might not be such a good idea... he may get addicted.

[Bree1978]

Becareful you are training your cat to chew on weed plants... That might not be such a good idea... he may get addicted.

IA, you'll be super pissed when your kitty starts taking off with your sack. I had a cat that liked to do that, I'd wake in the morning and my shit would be gone and all that would be left is the baggie.

:jointsmile: Bree

[FireTheft]

nice job....
some people may argue with me on this one but I am not a fan of switching the light cycle of plants throughout the grow from 24/0 to 18/6, etc etc....like you did. messing with the light cycle can induce hermies. next time do 18/6 and when you're ready to switch to 12/12 give them 36hours of total darkness and then go 12/12

[Earthy Dank]

nice job....
some people may argue with me on this one but I am not a fan of switching the light cycle of plants throughout the grow from 24/0 to 18/6, etc etc....like you did. messing with the light cycle can induce hermies. next time do 18/6 and when you're ready to switch to 12/12 give them 36hours of total darkness and then go 12/12

This is only a problem during flowering... you can switch it all you want in veg. And its better for the root system to have a night period so 18/6 is better.

[miley]

Hey Earthy and Bree. Thanks for the replys. I currently have a double cfl w/ reflector coming and will head to wally world or Lowes soon to get a couple more y adapters. Thanks for the advice. I need girls first though so I can get some buds. Kinda explains my lack of motivation to get more lights. As far as the cats, they dont have access to my grow room or my stash. I know cats like plants in general and figured y not let him try a bit before I cut the males down. I mean hell i put 7 weeks into them someone might as well get something out of them. Hopefully I see some female pubs tonight. Finger crossed.

[miley]

Hey Fire thanks for the response. I think earthy is right about the light cycle not mattering in veg but I didnt realize that the roots need dark so next grow I will take that into account. I havent seen a hermie yet just regular males.

[miley]

Well lights came on in the grow room a few hours ago and I just poked my head in to check on them and think Plant 2 might be a male. :( Not 100% sure so i'm gonna give it another day just to be safe. For some good news i just ordered 10 papaya seeds from Nirvana seeds. Cant wait to start grow #2.

[KushMaster5]

you have beautiful thing going there miley...

[miley]

Today is midweek 7 total and mid 2nd week flowering and finally got all 4 flowered. Plant 1 and 4 were killed off a few days ago and tonight plant 2 was killed as it ended up having balls. :( But plant 3 the wide ass sativa looking one showed "Her" pubes today!!!! :) I got a pic of her and a few up close pics for you all. So out of the first 4 plants I got 3 males 1 female. Thats ok though didnt really want to grow out to many of the bagseed plants anyway since I have some papaya seeds in the mail! More pics of all the plants on wednesday. Since it turned female and is the only survivor of the first wave of plants I have decided to name her Candice. Picked that name cause i had a huge thing for Candice Cameron from full house back in the day. lame huh. Hang loose.

[miley]

Just a quick update. I finally got my dual cfl's w reflector. I put 2 warm bulbs in it and am gonna stick it in the grow room tonight for my female. Can anyone tell me if this would be a good light for the price?
FLUOREX HIGH INTENSITY GROW LIGHT CFL HPS HYDROPONIC - (eBay item 190145253096 end time Aug-31-07 20:39:48 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/FLUOREX-HIGH-INTENSITY-GROW-LIGHT-CFL-HPS-HYDROPONIC_W0QQitemZ190145253096QQihZ009QQcategory Z42225QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[Earthy Dank]

Just a quick update. I finally got my dual cfl's w reflector. I put 2 warm bulbs in it and am gonna stick it in the grow room tonight for my female. Can anyone tell me if this would be a good light for the price?
FLUOREX HIGH INTENSITY GROW LIGHT CFL HPS HYDROPONIC - (eBay item 190145253096 end time Aug-31-07 20:39:48 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/FLUOREX-HIGH-INTENSITY-GROW-LIGHT-CFL-HPS-HYDROPONIC_W0QQitemZ190145253096QQihZ009QQcategory Z42225QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Yeah thats pretty cool.. it isnt THAT strong but its better than ur average CFL... IT puts out 5k llumens... thats pretty good... I would look for HPS though if ur serious about growin.

[miley]

Just another quick update. My small fungus gnat problem has escalated a little bit so tonight I sprayed them down with soapy water and covered the soil with sand. Dont really wanna use any pesticides unless absolutely needed. More pics to come tommorow.

Peace

[miley]

The benchmark is 50 watts per square foot of grow area.

I finally got motivated tonight and decided to figure out my square footage in the closet i am using. Its just 2 - 2 bulb shop lights leaned from the floor onto a ledge 32" tall. They are on like a 30 degree angle measured length wise across the floor is 38". The width of the 2 shop lights plus the reflector that closes it in is 16".

So if ya figure 38" long x 32" tall X 16" wide i came up with 11.33 cubic feet. Then that number started looking really big to me and i thought about it and finally figured out that i didnt take into account the 30 degree light slope. 11.33 cu ft is the total footage of a square box that size not a triangular one. So i sketched out a pic of it(when i was in school i never figured drafting class would come in handy but i must say i was wrong) and I figure that i have at least 1/2 less cu ft because of the angle of the light. Then i came up with 5.25 cu ft that sounds alot better to me. If the above quote is correct then I should need 280 watts to reach the bench mark. Right now i have 4 - 4 foot fluor tubes at 40 watts each and a dual cfl with reflector with 2 - 25 watt bulbs for a total of 210 watts. So i am about 70 short. I am gonna try to get one more dual cfl and finish the crop with that and see what my yield is. Now that you can understand what i am growing in i'm sure you can understand why i have no room for lights. Also this setup is pretty stealthy which i like. If my calculations arent correct feel free to correct me please.

[miley]

I recently read a thread titled something to the effect of "$18 First grow good results" so I had to check it out. The dude started out at that total but as the weeks went on 18 bucks turned into over 500 or something like that. This made me decided to keep a tally on my total expenses for this grow. Due to my lack of grow space and lack of funds i am trying to keep this grow as cheap as possible but adequate enough to get decent results. I know alot of people are gonna say i need way more lighting but i just cant do that right now. I am gonna get another dual cfl soon but that will probably be it. I'll finish this grow with that setup then evaluate the situation depending on the yield. I basically
started from scratch with this grow and needed to buy alot of stuff. So heres the list.

Bagseed - free

Lighting
4 foot shop light without bulbs from trader horn - $10
4 foot shop light found in basement - free
cfl ballast with reflector and Y adapter for 2 bulbs from ebay - $30
2 - 4 foot warm white fluro tubes from a local hardware store - $14
2 - 25 watt cool white cfl bulbs from ebay - $15
2 - 25 watt warm white cfl bulbs from eaby - $15
2 - 4 foot cool white tubes found in basement - free
GE Light Timer from ebay - $12

Nutes
1.5 lbs Miracle Grow tomato food for veg from wally world - $4.50
2 lbs Bloom food (cant remember the brand now) from wally world - $4.00
1 pint epsom salts from wally world - $1.00

Misc
5 - 1 gallon pots from wally world - $5
Pruning shears from wally world - $5
aluminum foil - free
40 lbs Hyponics potting soil - $4
tap water thats let stand for 24 hours - free
extension cord laying around the house - free
power strip laying around the house - free
small spray bottle from wally world - $1.00
10 x jewelers loupe from ebay - $8.00
30x jewelers loupe from ebay - $12.00
2 - 6 inch desk fans from dollar general - $12.00
cardboard from random boxes used for light barriers - free

My total so far not counting electricity is $152.50

But the initial costs will get better and better with every crop because all that will mostly be needed are seeds and ferts.

[miley]

Well the start of week 9 is finally here. I cant wait to see the buds develop on candices hot ass. lol. I'll start ya off with a few pics of the new seeds i got in the mail today from Nirvana Seeds. 10 Papaya and i got 5 free Haze x Skunk 1. Is anyone familar with that strain? I'm gonna hold off a bit on germing them basically because of lack of space and figure i better make damn sure with these bagseed plants that i know what i'm doing. Anyways, i placed my order on August 29th and paid with a credit card and received them today. It took less then a week. The seeds are alot smaller then i expected them to be. The bagseed i am growing now, its seeds were twice as big. Anyways total for the 15 seeds cost me $30.

Next are some pics of Candice. She seems to be happy as can be but i didnt get to fert her yesturday because i am letting her dry up a bit to get rid of fungus gnats. Not sure i am gonna do it tonight or wait another day. She loves that new dual cfl setup that i have pointed right at her mid section. Here are some pics of her pubes 2 weeks into 12/12. Shes got about 6-10 sets of pistils showing right now.

Heres my 2nd crop that is a total of 4 weeks old today and 1 week in 12/12. No signs of preflowers yet but i havent really checked them well. I figure its gonna take at least another week for them to show. Then after I sex these 6 and kill the males i probably will germ my new seeds since i'll have extra space. I've starting transplanting these plants slowly one by one over the last few days.

I stopped at Wally World today and hopefully got the last few supplys that i will need but i doubt it.

2 - 1 gallon pots - $1.00
1 - 10lbs bag of Hyponex potting soil - $1.00 (the other 40lbs i bought early are the same brand)
Black twin fitted bed sheet - $2.50 to cover plants during the dark period
24" T8 Fluro ballast with a 17watt grow bulb - $10.00

Total for today $15.50
Total for grow $168.00

Peace

[miley]

More pics

[metalirock]

ive seen that dual cfl reflector on ebay also...it would been a lot cheaper to buy the two and make it urself.

[miley]

Midweek 5 update. I finally got to sex some of the younger 6 plants i have. So far i got 2 males which have been taken care of and 1 female. I should know the sex of the other 3 in a few days. Although i dont hope for males i'm happy to have the extra space in my closet. I'll have another update tommorow night with some pics of the plants.

Peace

[miley]

Today is the start of week 4 of flowering for Candice. My post last week was titled "Week 9" but was incorrect it was actually week 8. She was vegged for 5 weeks before starting 12/12. A few days ago she was looking sad because of me cutting her water down because of those damn gnats. She got a good drink today with bloom ferts and molasses. Hoping she starts to put the buds on soon. She is the lone survivor of the first 4 plants I started.

On to the 2nd wave. These plants were vegged for 3 weeks and are starting week 3 of 12/12 tonight. After killing 2 males last night i discovered another this evening and it got the axe and I am suspecting that another one is male but am giving it a few more hours to change my mind. That puts my ratio so far at 2 females 6 males 2 unsure. I think i figured out why i've been getting so many males. My temp has been fine through the entire grow(80f-85f) but i never measured the humidity until last night and it was at 85% last night and at 95% tonight. So i'm gonna get my ass in to town tommorow and get a dehumidifier. I have decided to name the newest female April. No reason why just like the name.

I purchased a 16oz jar of molasses yesturday for $3.00 and that brings my total to $171.00

[miley]

Pics of April

[miley]

Quick update. I think the 2 plants i am unsure of are female now. I can definately see pistils on both plants but they have 2 weird circlular looking things on them. They dont look like pollen sacks but not sure yet. Hope they arent hermie. Gonna give em a few more days to be sure.

Wally world didnt have a dehumidifier that would accommodate my grow rooms size or my budget so I got one of ebay along with a few other things.

32 oz portable dehumidifier with shipping - $49
15" used desk lamp with shipping - $8.50
Dual bulb Y socket adapter with shipping - $9.00

Total for the day - $66.50

Total for grow - $237.50 (damn) My goal is to keep total initial start up costs under $300 for this grow.

I am gonna use that lamp with the Y adapter and use the 2 - 25watt cool cfl bulbs i already have in it for supplemental lighting on the lower parts of the plants.

[miley]

I just noticed that no one has posted on here in almost a week. Does anyone care about this log or am I just wasting my time here?

[whatsthatsmell]

i just saw this post and will be following ya miley, keep up the good work. What was your experience with getting the seeds, i was thinking of going to Canada and getting some but i wasnt sure if the mail order thing works all that well... let me know your thoughts and keep posting.... :thumbsup:

as for your cats, last thing you want to see is coming home one day to find your cats sitting on the couch with a bag of cat snacks on one side, your plant clippings on the other holding the ps3/xbox controller fast asleep sprawled out.....

[420F4i]

I just noticed that no one has posted on here in almost a week. Does anyone care about this log or am I just wasting my time here?

I read it, but i dont really know anything as Im just a beginner, so I dont have anything to contribute. Keep posting, you've already taught me that I should start checking my humidity :pimp:

[miley]

Hey Smell thanks for the reply and for keeping tabs on this grow. The seeds i am growing now are just bagseed i've saved over the years but i recently purcahsed seeds from Gypsy Nirvana's Seed Boutique. I got 10 papaya seeds and they sent me 5 free skunk crosses. I ordered off their site with a credit card and the seeds came 5 days later in a very discreet package. I am gonna put 4 of them into germ tonight and see how it goes. I'll get pics as soon as they sprout.

Hey 420 thanks for the response. Definately check your humidity once you get into flowering. I dont think its such a big deal in veg as long as your between 50%-90% but once into flowering it is important that the humidity be no higher then 65% and down to 50% during the last few weeks.

Peace

[Black0ut120]

Ya keep us posted on the Papaya, I'm seriously considering that for my first grow...

Nice setup btw

[miley]

as for your cats, last thing you want to see is coming home one day to find your cats sitting on the couch with a bag of cat snacks on one side, your plant clippings on the other holding the ps3/xbox controller fast asleep sprawled out.....
That would be sweet "Smell". I'd sit down next to em, hit their pipe, grab the other controller, and whip their ass at the game. lol.

Hey Blackout. Definatly will keep ya posted on the papaya. THanks for the props on the setup even though most experienced growers will argue with you but its all i can afford and fit in my space right now. As long as you can produce 50watts per cubic foot your ok and i am almost there.

[PopaBean]

I care about this log.
Please...keep up the good work.

They look nice!!!

[miley]

Hey Popabean. Thanks for the support. It nice to see that people are actually checking this grow out. I am not claiming to have the biggest or best grow here. What am i trying to accomplish is a decent to nice crop from bagseed with easy to use and cheap lighting on a tight budget. Hopefully if all goes well this can be a nice example of how easy it can be for regular joes to grow dope.

Peace

[miley]

Well heres tonights quick update. I got a small one bulb socket with cord and a clamp from my brother today. I threw a 25 watt cool cfl in it and made a hillbilly reflector with a soda can cut in half. That brings my total wattage up to 252. Right now that makes me 28 watts short of 50 watts a cu ft. I have another dual cfl socket coming in the mail this week and that will put me over 280 watts and past my bench mark.

After watching a video on you tube about using co2 while growing I decided to try to make my own small co2 bubbler. Dont know if it will helps the plants at all but its neat and I felt like macgyver while i was making it. lol. All it is is a 5 oz baby bottle that I cut 2 square inch holes in toward the top. Thats it. For the first test I used 2 tps of baking powder in the bottle. Then I took the nipple and stuck it inwards into the bottle and let it rest there. Filled the nipple up with white vinegar and let gravity do its thing. It took about 5 mins for it to completely drain and about 15 mins to stop bubbling. I was pretty happy with how it worked. Like i said before i dont know if it will help but wtf didnt cost me anything except 10 mins of my time.

Over the last week i have been trimming a few of the lower shade leaves off the plants every few nights. This is allowing the light to reach all the lower bud sites on the plants and the lost growth of the removed leave is quickly replaced by new undergrowth that looks great. It also allows for better air flow which helps alot in this stage of growing.

Well i discovered tonight that the 2 plants i was unsure of are females for sure. Definitely see pistils on them but I am gonna keep a close eye on them for a few days just in case they decided to go hermie. I named them anyways. "May" and "June". I decided to stick with the month theme i started with april. Since i only have 4 plants now that are all over 1 foot tall and because my main lights are on a slope i decided to lay June horizontally across the floor. This will allow her to use the wasted light towards the front of the grow room and she should develop really good side growth. Just hope its not too much stress on her. Time will tell. Not worried though if she does go hermie.

Since I put 4 papaya seeds to germ tonight I decided I better get another veg light. Mainly beacuse all my other lights are in the flowering room now. So i got on ebay and got a FLUOREX 65 WATT CFL HIGH-OUTPUT LIGHT. It's compact and puts out almost as much light as my shop lights. It should work well for seedlings.

Total for light with shipping - $36.50
Total for grow - $274.00
Money left - $26.00

If i can get at least 2 ounces from this grow it will pay for itself. Keep your fingers crossed.

[Black0ut120]

Ya my setup is kinda ghetto as well but for starting out, I don't see the problem with fluorescents, they are cheap and get the job done.. I have one 42w CFL right now and am picking up another today, I'll probably add a dual 26w CFL setup strictly for side lighting.. as soon as I get my bagseed to germinate I'm ordering some papaya and start my SoG... good luck with yours I'll be checking back regularly to see ur progess!

[PopaBean]

Hey Popabean. Thanks for the support. It nice to see that people are actually checking this grow out. I am not claiming to have the biggest or best grow here. What am i trying to accomplish is a decent to nice crop from bagseed with easy to use and cheap lighting on a tight budget. Hopefully if all goes well this can be a nice example of how easy it can be for regular joes to grow dope.

Peace

Anytime...It is threads like this that motivate people to stop smoking commercial mexicali schwag and do their own thing.:rastasmoke:

Keep up the good work:hippy:

[miley]

Hey Black out its ok about being ghetto. My grow started out like that and pretty much still is. Theres alot of info on here saying that all things need to be a certain way and they do to an extent but just because you dont have a super sanitary grow room and no hid lights doesnt mean you still cant get a good crop. I mean it definitely helps but is not always necessary. Keep me posted on how its going. Good choice on the papaya as well. I have no experience with it yet but what i have learned is that it is an easy to grow plant that flowers quickly stays short. I'll get pics of mine up as soon as they sprout.


Anytime...It is threads like this that motivate people to stop smoking commercial mexicali schwag and do their own thing.

I'm with ya on that pope. I mean how many first time growers actually have the money to go all out on the first one. I know damn well i am tired of over paying for the shitty weed thats mostly available in my area. 5 more weeks and i'll have my own good shit hopefully.

[miley]

Well it only took 2 days and all 4 of my papaya seeds sprouted using the standard wet paper towel method. I put them into their first containers today and hoepfully that new light i order gets here before they break through the soil. Cant wait to get some pics of them for you. Should i just post pics of them in this thread or should i make another grow log specifically for them? Let me know.

[ProGroWannabe]

Naa. I'd say to post em here. But thats just me. Got anymore eye-candy for us?--lol

[hoghuntr76]

been following your grow cant wait to see some updated pics. keep up the good work I think your doing a great job. Peace

[miley]

Hey guys thanks for the intrest in this thread. I'll have new pics for everyone tommorow night. I stopped at wally world and a pet store today and got what i believe to be the last few supplies that i need. I hope so because i am over budget now. Also, the movable desk lamp i ordered from ebay came in today but I am still waiting on the other light and dehumidifer which i need like now. I've decided to just start another log for my papaya grow just to keep the 2 separate.

Black sheet from wally world for veg room- 2.50
3 outlet adapter from wally world - 1.50
2 pack of ground adapters from wally world- 1.50
3 pack of 26 watt cfl bulbs from wally world - 7.00
Clamp light with 7 1/2" reflector - 6.50
ph test kit from wally world - 5.00
2 oz. ph up from pet store - 4.00
2 oz. ph down from pet store - 4.00

total for trip - $28.00
total for grow - $302.00

[PopaBean]

Hey guys thanks for the intrest in this thread. I'll have new pics for everyone tommorow night. I stopped at wally world and a pet store today and got what i believe to be the last few supplies that i need. I hope so because i am over budget now. Also, the movable desk lamp i ordered from ebay came in today but I am still waiting on the other light and dehumidifer which i need like now. I've decided to just start another log for my papaya grow just to keep the 2 separate.

Black sheet from wally world for veg room- 2.50
3 outlet adapter from wally world - 1.50
2 pack of ground adapters from wally world- 1.50
3 pack of 26 watt cfl bulbs from wally world - 7.00
Clamp light with 7 1/2" reflector - 6.50
ph test kit from wally world - 5.00
2 oz. ph up from pet store - 4.00
2 oz. ph down from pet store - 4.00

total for trip - $28.00
total for grow - $302.00

You might have a little trouble with the PH adjuster from the pet store...I read somewhere that it is designed not to make drastic changes...You want the stuff from the flower store.

[Skrappie]

Hey Miley, Looking nice man, I cant wait to see what a monster your little lady will turn into. When do you plan on popping your store brought seeds?

[miley]

Hey Popa. Btw sorry for calling you pope before it was a typo. Though i did laugh when i re-read it because I have a cat named "The pope" lol. Thanks for the heads up about the ph adjuster. I checked my tap water today and it was 7.3 so I used 3 drops of the ph down to 1/2 gallon of water and that bought it down to 6.8. I am gonna test it several more times tonight just to make sure.

Hey Skrappie thats for stopping by. I cant wait till shes done. Just paid $70 for another crappy 1/4 tonight. :( I sprouted 4 of my papaya seeds 4 days ago and last night all 4 reached the surface of the soil. I just finshed constructing my veg room in the corner of my closet tonight and they will be left in there for 3-4 weeks depending on how fast they grow.

Peace

[miley]

Here are the pics as i promised. This is the start of week 5 of flowering and the 10th week total and Candice is starting to get pretty tall and thick. Even though i trimmed some fan leaves she filled that space already. Hope she doesnt get much bigger. I noticed yesterday that some of her leaves are curling under a bit. Any ideas? My dehumidifier came in today. Thank god! My humidity in there tonight was 91% so hopefully i can get it down real soon. I got pics of the Papaya tonight to but i will be posting them in another grow log http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/134079-papaya-oh-mya.html#post1650548 . She got about a half gallon of bud ferts with molasses last night. Anyways here are the pics of Candice.

[miley]

April so far is very tall and skinny though her under growth is finally starting to grow in. She is a little behind her sister May in flowering but thats ok. Her leaves are starting to curl a bit like Candice's and I think it either has to do with the humidity or the lights are a bit to close to them. I'm gonna give her a dose of bud ferts and molasseses tonight and see if that perks her up.

[miley]

May has really turned into a sexy bitch in the last week. Cant believe i thought she was hermie. Anyways, shes getting lots of pistils at all the major internodes and on top. I cant seem to see any problems with her other then where my cat took a chop at her. You guys were right. I left the door propped open and blocked a fan in it to air it out a bit. Left the room for 5 secs and they had the blockade down and snuck a bite of her. Lesson learned.

[miley]

Shooo last one. June is my little experiment that kinda had to be done. I was running out of space in my bloom room and decided to lay her on her side to take up less vertical space and utilize more of the light that was being wasted. It definately shocked her a bit but shes reaching for the sky again and starting to form more pistils. Its a total son of a bitch watering her though. I'm gonna water her tonight with ferts plus molasses and trim off some of the leaves that died from being under her. This should encourage the side growth to grow better.

[whisky]

nice grw man, great thread with all the input.

[hoghuntr76]

nice grow going.. looks like there coming along rather nicely. can wait to see them in about two more weeks
keep up the good work

[miley]

Hey thanks for the replys guys. I cant wait to see em in 2 weeks as well!!!

[miley]

Tonight is midweek 5 of flowering for Candice the other girls are midweek 3. Everything seems to be going good for all of them except for the claw leaves that Candice and April have. My humidity is still crazy ranging from 85% to 94%. My dehumidifier has been running for 48 hours now and hasnt really brought it down at all. It better get its ass working though. My 65 watt cfl finally came in today. When i bought it i figured on using it in the veg room and moving some of the 25 watt cfls to the flower room but due to the size of the light and mounting conditions i have decided to put it in the flower room. That leaves my Papaya plants still with 75 watts of cfls in the veg room but now the flower room has 317 watts which is over the 50 watts a cubic foot rule. More pics in a few days.

Peace

[cannabis182]

How much is your plant smelling? Cause im gonna be doing a bagseed grow very soon and

i need to know how much its gonna stink my room up, but ill only be growing 1 plant

[miley]

Hey Canna182. Right now they dont really stink at all. Like when i open the closet door i get a whiff of that plant growing smell but its definately not stinking the house up or anything like that yet.

[Skrappie]

Still looking nice man, the plan you topped over seems to have took a turn for a better. IT has adapted very well.

[cannabis182]

yeah looks great i got this thread bookmarked, checking in everyday

cheers bro:thumbsup::jointsmile:

[miley]

Thanks Canna!

[miley]

Well here are this weeks pics of Candice. She is starting to seem a bit sad as her leaves are still curled. I scoured this site for info but there are a bunch of things that can apparently lead to claw leaves. She's almost at the end so i am hoping I can nurse her though another few weeks. I am disappointed at all the faster her top cola is growing because her sister May has already passed her by and is 3 weeks younger. Humidity in my room is finally starting to drop a bit but is still around 85%. Hopefully i can get it around 60% by the end of next week.

[miley]

April is doing well but still isnt putting the buds on yet. She got really tall in the last few weeks and I am just about out of space in my grow room. Unlike Candice and May, April has yet to form her top cola. Anyone know why she would be behind?

[miley]

June is looking healthy and still reaching for the sky. Like her sister April she has yet to develop a top cola. I believe this might be from the stress of being laid sideways. Other then that this experiment is working out well for me and she is taking up alot less vertical space. Wish i could have put her in a bigger pot but ran out of time and space.

[miley]

I saved my sexiest bitch for last. May is continuing to grow pubes and the top 2 sites are forming one large site. I think after harvest I will either try to regen her or will clone her because of her fast growing trait. She also grew straight up which saves a bunch of space in my room. Cant wait till shes done!

[Skrappie]

May looks wonderful. I got a very fast, really strong plant that i hope is female. I hope it turns out like that!

[miley]

Hey Skrap! Thanks for stopping in again. She does look delicious. lol. I made a mistake on the title of her last thread this is actually the start of week 4 of flowering for her.

[miley]

Its the start of a new week for the girls and I am glad that this grow is ending soon. Judging from how she looks now I think its gonna be a few more weeks before she is ready. Shes got a few amber pistils but nothing major. She is growing well and her buds are starting to plump up a bit. Hopefully they explode with growth soon. Last night she got more bloom ferts and molasses. Trichs are starting to appear but dont have heads yet and are clear. Anyone have any ideas of how much longer shes gonna take? I'm guessing 2-3 weeks.

[PopaBean]

WOW....the 4th pic is amazing.

Looks great!

Keep up the good work.

[miley]

Heres the new centerfolds of my sexy bitch may. Trichs are really starting to form now and have heads already. Her buds are still growing but havent taken off yet. Shes got a few amber pistils but not enough to get excited over. She also got bud ferts and molasses last night to perk her up for her pics.

[miley]

Well heres April. Not too much to say about her. She finally started getting her top cola but its still very tiny. She has a bit more side growth then May and more bud sites. She got bud ferts and molasses last night and I finally am starting to see trichs forming on her leaves.

[miley]

Heres June. She is still growing well and finally getting her top cola. I dont think I am gonna get very much off her but I already put this much time in her might as well see it through. Bud ferts and molasses last night for her.

[Call Me Steam]

This is great. Keep it up. Thinking of starting my own plant or two soon, and it's great to be able to watch from start to finish. Do you have any pictures focusing more on your set up? I'd be interested to see how it's all put together.

[miley]

Hey thanks Steam. Nice Mr. T avatar. lol. Takes me back to my childhood watching the a-team and rocky. A few pages back I listed all the info on my setup dont have pics though. Its pretty ghetto but its working good so far. Though my humidity levels suck ass.

[Call Me Steam]

Mr T is just about the greatest person alive.

[Call Me Steam]

Been looking forward to updates. How's the grow going?

[miley]

Hey Steam. Its going well. The girls got ferts tonight and are looking better every day. I'll have new pics of them tomorrow.

Peace

[pastetea]

Hey,

I've been looking at your grow and it looks great so far. I might be starting my first grow soon. I'm a bit worried about the smell to, when the buds start sprouting, does the stench increase drastically?

Got any important advice for my first grow? heh :)

Keep up the good work and I'll stay tuned! :jointsmile::)

Cheers!

[miley]

Hey Pastetea. Thanks for stopping in. The smell so far is not bad at all. Actually not really noticeable. It depends on the strain that your growing as far as smell goes.

Keep tabs on your humidity, temp, and ph from the very start and dont tell anyone that your growing that doesnt need to know. I've had friends over that i really wanted to show my plants to but it just wasnt worth it. If there arent any benefits from telling someone then dont tell them. More pics in a few hours.

Peace

[miley]

Here is my big girl. She is starting to fill out her buds but her tric production isnt very good yet. About 1/3 of the pistils are amber now but i still think its gonna be about 2-3 before shes ready. Shes starting to use the nutes in her leaves as they are turning yellow. I removed a few that were pretty much dead. I'll probably give her one more shot of ferts next week then just water after that.

[miley]

Heres my sexy bitch. May is by far my favorite plant and is growing faster then all the others. Her top cola is getting really fat and even the smaller buds at the bottom of her are looking really good. She gets more and more amber pistils every day but still has a ways to go to be ready. She has alot of fully formed trics but they are still all clear. Most likely she'll be ready in 2 weeks right on schedule. Enjoy the pics.

[miley]

Heres April. Her top cola is looking better every day but still not really great. Shes got some trics on her but none that are fully formed yet. Not many amber pistils yet either. I figure its gonna take her about 2-3 weeks to finish up.

[miley]

Heres my sideways plant June. She is way behind all the other girls and is gonna be a few weeks for sure. I thought about just getting rid of her but hell i put 9 weeks into her already might as well finish her off. Her cola is still trying to form and no tric production yet. I am figuring that instead of harvesting all the plants at once i'll do them one at a time as they become ready. It should go Candice, May, April, and June. By the time June is finished up my Papaya plants should be starting to get big and the extra space in the flower room will help them greatly.

[horror business]

Great looking plants! It inspired me to start some seeds, and get back to growing again. Can't wait to see updates.

Peace,
:rasta:

[Earthy Dank]

Looks like its been getting hot around the tops of some of those plants. The "upside-down canoe" leaves mean they are stressed from heat. And high fertilizers will make it worse...

[whisky]

hows it going man? shame they havent produced much. candice and may though look tasty. sometimes best bud is small tight bud for smoking pleasure, im sure they will taste great and have a cool high.

the problem is probably because of the lighting. you use floros right? you should get compact floros and several of them. for flowering 2700K temperature bulbs for vegetative 6500K. there great they keep the plants small and tight buds. there what i use on mine.

man i cant read your thread while being high :jointsmile:your avatar makes me think that you are the cat and its talking about its weed plants, hehe. cool cat, i love cats.

[no1169nn]

I'm kind of a newbieee. But I have read alot. Alummium foil only reflects 50% of the light when perfectly set up (no bends, creases, etc.)and also heats up. Use Alummium tape. Also, I find you spend a lot of money on things you could buy for much less if you went to the store. Goto somewhere like Home Depot, you'll find the V connectors for 1.50$ there.
I hope this helpped. Great grow by the way! Too bad you had so many males :(

[miley]

Hey Horrorbiz. Glad to hear that you've been inspired. Let me know if you start a log.

Earthydank. I think my plants have those leaves because they are rootbound. Temps under my fluros are usually 75-85 and never get higher the 90 degrees. I've never heard of the ferts doing that either just that the tips of the leaves will get burnt.

Whisky. I do have a mixture of warm and cool bulbs. 2 - 40 watt cool white t8 tubes, 2-40 watt warm white t8 tubes. 4 - 26 watt warm cfls, 1 - 26 watt cool cfl, and a 65 watt cool cfl. I dont think my yield will be terrible but its not going to be any more then a few oz's at best. But hey regardless of what i yield it will be cool to smoke bud that i have grown. Sensi too boot. It's been a long time since i've had any good sensi. Thats funny about the avatar. Cats are cool 75% of the time. lol.

no1169nn thanks for stopping by and for the info on aluminum foil. Read about it a few times already and have been told a few times already. What you see is just whats left of what i hung up a while ago just havent taken it down yet. Besides anythings better then nothing and as long as air is moving the heat shouldnt build up too bad. I agree with ya that i did get hosed on that 1 y adapter but pretty much everything else i got cheap or at regular prices. Cant get much cheaper then wally world man. Didnt really care about having so many males now that the 4 females i have have grown up. 4 is the max of my flowering room right now so it actually worked out nicely. Cant wait for these girls to finish up.

[1puff2puff3puff]

Been reading your posts, they are GREAT!!! Keep us posted!!!

Good luck

[pastetea]

Hey Miley,

I'm following your other grow to, their both looking great.
I'm starting my first grow within' the next few weeks.
Should I have my plants vegging in 1/2 gallon bags till it's time to flower then transplant them to 3 gallon pots?
Let me know what you think.

Keep up the good work and keep us posted! :)
Cheers! ;)

[spongebobsmokepants]

I am currently growing also. mine just started. yours are looking good.
:thumbsup:

[miley]

Hey 1puff2puff3puff and spongebob. Thanks for stopping in and checking out my logs. Let me know if you start a grow log bob.

Thanks for the props Paste. Those bags would work fine but you could get away with smaller containers for the first few weeks. I have had good success vegging for 3 weeks in small containers then transplanting once they show sex to bigger ones. This saves me alot of space in my room. Let me know when you get your log going man.

Peace


Oh p.s. the girls got water and molasses tonight and last week i picked up a dozen 1 pint mason jars for curing. Cost me $9. I believe that brings my total to $311.

[IForgotAgain]

I just wanted to say...and this has nothing with growing cannabis...



Miley your cats are cute as hell and I am a huge cat fan.



I wish I had a kitty again...I mean I have a cat and she's tight as hell but I remember when she was a kitty...I love kittens cutest god damn thing in the whole motherfucking universe!


I'm sorry I'm high and I keep thinking how cute your cat is in ur avatar and now Imma go chill with my cat..haha

EDIT: Drop by my growlog and keep track of my progress...No new pics until tomorrow but I really do need help cause I get lost sometimes and no one is around to help =(

And tell your kitty that my kitty says hi:stoned:

[miley]

Hey iforgotagain. Cats are pretty cool and you must have been really high. lol. What is the title of your log? Tell you kitty that my kitty says hola!

[IForgotAgain]

Mine is "First Closet CFL Grow. Feedback Appreciated.

I should put a link in my sig but I've been lazy...easiest way is goto member list and Im on page 9 of the "I" section...just goto threads started and its there.. =)

[whisky]

Check mine out also ;) the 2nd one in the sig. My mother doesnt like cats and didnt let me keep it. When I get my own place Ill have cats and dogs all around the place.

[smokedaddy]

nice grow miley :thumbsup: so how r the ladies doing ? going 2 start a grow soon myself just waiting 4 my beans 2 arrive ;) great first grow :) smokedaddy:rastasmoke:

[miley]

Hey Smoke. Thanks for dropping in. What kind of beans are coming? Are you going to do a log on here?

[miley]

Well tonight candice got a watering of just molasses and water. This is gonna be the start of her 2 week flushing time. The other girls all got ferts and molasses though. New pics tommorow night.

[miley]

Well I'm gonna give Candice at least another week till I chop her down. She put on alot of trics this week and theres alot more orange hairs. Trics seem to all still be clear. I cant really tell the difference between the clear and milky so I am just gonna wait till i see a few amber ones. Her main cola and side buds are really swelling up and i'm happy to see that.

[miley]

May is still getting sexier by the day but i figure that its gonna take her about 2 more weeks. I had to put a stake in her pot to keep her from swaying and falling over. That would be bad. She got her last week of ferts and will get just molasses from now on. I'm hoping she completely fills in with buds and is one long bud from top to bottom. That would be sweet.

[miley]

April is looking very sad and i believe is super pot bound. lol. Besides that her buds are starting to look very good. She made alot of progress this week and is looking alot like Candice. Shes got just a few orange hairs and not many trics yet so its gonna be a few weeks at least.

[miley]

June is still looking very scrawny and i think i might know why. I am starting to think she is more sativa then indica. Her fan leaves are very slim and her buds are coming very slowly and arent packed very tightly. I may be wrong but if i'm not shes gonna take alot longer to flower then the other girls.

[SmokeyTokey]

Looking real good man...I like seeing this 1st grows. They are very inspirational.

[miley]

Hey Smokey. Thanks for stopping in. Cant wait till these chicks are ready to harvest.

[IForgotAgain]

Dammit Man Pray that mines a female!!!

Enjoy the buds they look smokealicious:jointsmile:

[bron.y.aur babe]

Yeah, I would say that June has a lot of Sativa in her.. those are some skinny leaves. But I'm sure she'll fill in nicely over the next few weeks! :)

You're gonna get some good smoke off of those bitches. How tall is May?

[miley]

I'm praying for you Iforgotagain. Just remember males show first. I'm gonna take my time with these plants then dry them properly and cure them so I get the most out of it.

Hey Bron thanks for stopping in. Glad you agree about her being sativa. May is 18 inchs tall.

[miley]

Well after thinking about it for a while i decided to transplant June into a bigger pot. I know thats not a good idea during flowering but shes far enough along that i believe she wont turn hermie. Because she is sativa I figured with the long flowering time she would need alot more room then just that soda bottle and it was becoming a big hassle watering her. Plus the dirt from the bottle was spilling all over the floor. I did a pretty good job and it went pretty smoothly. She's sitting at an angle now but has turned her top cola toward the lights a few hours after.

[miley]

Just gave all the girls water tonight. Candice got just water and molasses for the 2nd straight week and is starting to look really good. I'd say she has 5-10 days left. Her leaves still arent yellowing and dying off yet though.

The other 3 girls all got bud ferts and molasseses in heavy doses. They are all still at least 3 weeks from being done. I wish they would hurry. Pics tommorow night. :thumbsup:

[miley]

Well Candice is nearing her end...I hope. It shouldnt be much longer though till harvest time. She hasnt gotten any veg ferts for a week and a half now but still isnt sucking the nutes from her leaves. Her trics are still clear but her top cola is really looking good. :thumbsup:

[miley]

My girls still getting bigger everyday.

[miley]

April has been putting the buds on over the last week and should have a decent yield when shes done.

[miley]

Well is my sativa girl June. She was transplanted a few days ago and is doing fine. I am amazed at the number of fan leaves she has and how tightly packed together they are. Judging from the pace she has been going i think its gonna be another 4-5 weeks till shes ready.

[nosaj]

how tall do you say this thing is?

thx

[Robin_Goodfellow]

pretty sweet man, keep up the good work!

[miley]

Hey nosaj. I would guess that June is between 17-19 inches.

Thanks for stopping in Robin.

[Call Me Steam]

Pretty awesome! :thumbsup: Keep it up.

[miley]

Tonight all the girls got bud ferts and molasses except Candice she got plain water again. After watering her I decided to take one of her small buds and sample it. It weighs 2 grams wet. I am gonna pop it in the microwave for a bit then try it. New pics of all the girls tomorrow night.

[b0n3ZA]

awesome grow man.
It's amazing how fast these plants grew. Small and compact in a short period of time :>
My baby's are twice the size and havent started budding at all yet. But they have shown their sex. I guess it's because I'm growing outdoors and I don't have control of the lighting :<

Oh well... great grow :D

[PdoubleOTY]

beautifullllllllllllll....GOd i cant wait to have big ol buds growing in my closet! good luck man, enjoy that harvest!

[miley]

Hey Bon thanks for stopping in. Must be nice being in SA where you can grow outdoors all the time its freaking 42f here right now. Your right about it taking longer outside which it will but your plants will be trees by the time their done. I've heard of people pulling pounds off of 1 good plant outdoors. What you are seeing now are the preflowers. Pull all the males now but depending on the light schedule you may not even be into flowering yet. MJ plants show sex even in 24 hours of light once they are old enough. They wont actually start flowering until they get into 12/12.

Hey Pdub. THanks for checking my grow out. Are you growing as well or just thinking about it?

[miley]

This is week 10. I have been waiting for the last 2 weeks for her to be ready but shes still not yet. She gets more and more orange hairs every day but still hasnt reached the 75% range yet and continues to keep growing buds. Her trics are starting to get milky but none of them are amber yet. Her top cola gets bigger and bigger every day and is almost as round as a beer can.

[miley]

Heres my sexy bitch who should have finished up this week but as you can see by the lack of orange hairs its gonna be awhile. Other then that she looks really good. The weight of her top cola has prohibited me from moving her around because I dont want to break it off. Almost all her bud sites are touching to make a soild stick of buds.

[miley]

April is now officially past due with no signs of being ready to finish up. She is also looking very sad from being pot bound. I feel bad but shes just gonna have to run her course that way. It shouldnt hurt the bud production at this point. The buds are looking very good though.

[miley]

Week 9 for June my sativa. She seems alot happier now thats shes in a bigger pot. She has continued leaning which is good because theres no way i could fit her under the lights if she was straight up. Buds are looking better but still very skimpy. She better get her ass in gear!

[Call Me Steam]

The girls are looking good. Let us know how the sample of Candice was. Keep it up!

[whisky]

very nice those buds look awesome:thumbsup:

[SeaOGreenies]

DaNG bro, just go spend 10 bucks on pots. You can get a good size for buck. I like square so they all fit together.

[tokr2153]

sick grow man my plants r about half that size i hope i get some nice buds but i dont thin i can wait that long but good grow

[miley]

Hey Steam. The sample wasnt bad but i tried to dry it in the microwave and burnt it. I still got a good buzz off it though.

Thanks Whisky.

Hey Seao. If you woulda read a little more in this thread you would know that I dont have the space for bigger pots in my grow room. Though I do like the idea of the square pots.

[StemSeed]

Don't be affraid to push those pots together to make room for more plants. All you really need to add is better reflection, and more lights if possible and switch to big square pots. which is all pretty inexpensive.

but im loving the grow. if anything it should be a fun project to grow that simple bagseed :smokin:

[jtvision]

Haha the anticipation - Im interested what you will yeild.
How do you plan on curing?

[miley]

Hey JT. Thanks for stopping in. It's about time I get a legitimate question instead of people with hardly any posts or rep telling me what i need to and dont need to to do. Sorry had to get that rant out. I plan on curing in glass mason jars for at least a week.

[miley]

Tonight was the big night. I actually didnt have much of a choice. I completely ran out of room under the lights for Candice and my dope supply is under 2 weeks so it had to be done. She coulda have gone another day or two but that just wasnt feasible. I didnt see any amber trichs but most of them were milky and fully formed. Some also were leaning to the side a sign of degradation. I'd say that about 2/3 of the hairs were amber on most of the plant. From soil to her top she was 22". I tried my best to weigh it wet but my small scale made it a pain in the ass. I came up with a total of 4.43 oz's. If I lose 75% of the weight in drying that still leaves me over an oz which isnt too bad. Her buds are gonna stay on newspaper and dry for at least a week and then go into the jars to cure. I cant wait.

[miley]

Pics

[Shovelhandle]

That sounds like a plan, Miley. Pick 'em as they mature and let the rest go on for a while.
Good pics.

Shov

[zebulon]

Nice work buddy:thumbsup:.....looks really nice, but i think you should def. cure longer than a week...i used to cure 1-2 month....
but if you have nothing to smoke...

[klondike_bar]

im coming into this late but damn, those are sexy plants. hope my girls can do half that.

love seeing logs tho, fills in the gap between a vegging plant, and a fully grown one.

before seeing a flowering one made me go wha? just looking from it to my scrawny one where you can see a stem and all the leaves....lol

[miley]

Hey Zeb. I do plan on curing longer then a week. What i meant was i'll give the first batch at least a week before I break into it and let the rest go till I need it.

Hey Klondike. Thanks for stopping in. Your plants will be fine just give them alot of tlc and follow all the advice you've learned from this website. I checked other peoples logs all the time when my plants we're still in veg and it gave me hope because they do fill out quite a bit in the last few weeks.

[klondike_bar]

looks like it. i entered flowering at 13-16inches, and many ppl seem to do it at 6-12 inches. guess i got bit more height...

[CannabisCarl2134]

Congratulations Miley! and Happy Marijuana Smokin' >_< Later Brotha.

[Hydroponic Cabbage]

your plants look beautiful; I'm only 3 weeks into flower, but I don't don't think my plants are going to look anything like that. Good job :thumbsup:

[miley]

You should be just fine Klondike. The bigger they are the more bud they will produce. You should finish around 25-30 inches when done.

Hey Carl. Thanks for stopping by. I cant wait till I get to blaze some my homegrown.

Hey Hydro. Thanks for the checking out my girls. They love attention lol. Like I told that one dude earlier just do everything by the book and give them lots of tlc and you'll be fine. Oh and only handle them and move them when its absolutely necessary. Hope that helps.

[miley]

With the death of her sister Candice, May has now become the center point of the grow room. She is now a week overdue with no end in sight. Her bud production has seemed to slow a bit but 90% of her pistils are still white as well as her trics being clear. Hopefully she ripens up soon.

[miley]

Here's April still looking very sad and pot bound but it should only be another week or 2 max before harvest. She has passed May on the next to harvest list.

[miley]

Heres my sativa bitch June still going strong. She's still weeks away from harvest and I vow never to grow out a sativa again after i finish her off.

[klondike_bar]

You should be just fine Klondike. The bigger they are the more bud they will produce. You should finish around 25-30 inches when done.

Hope that helps.

thanks. actually tho, my tallest at 3 weeks flowering is 24 inches on the dot right now, and adding over 2 inches a week!

[miley]

Even better klondike. Once they form their top cola I noticed that they stop growing upwards and focus on bud production. Usually around week 4-6 of flowering this happens.

[tokr2153]

lookin good man let us know how the smoke was from the first harvest. I'm currently in day 10 of flowering, so far i only have one female. Waiting for the others to show sure signs of sex. :thumbsup:

[Forwhat420]

looking good!!!!!!!! might i add that it looks like you may be using a little too much nitrogen. excess nitrogen is known to cause over vigorous growth as well as prolong harvest. Other than that keep up the good growing!!!!!!!

[miley]

Hey Tokr. Will do about the smoke report. Congrats on getting a girl and i'll cross my fingers for ya on the other ones..

Hey Forwhat. Thanks for stopping in. Not sure about the nitrogen thing because all my girls get is a standard bloom fert and molasses.

[miley]

Since I messed up trying to dry that first bud in the microwave and not catching a very good high from it I decided to try it again. I found 2 of the very small buds that had stems that broke not bent meaning they are dry. I didnt weigh them but looking back now I wish i would have. The 2 buds gave me about 3/4 of a bowl which I got about 5 good hits from in my 12" glass bong. It tasted a bit like hay which I expected since it hasnt been cured yet but after about 3 mins from the last hit I was blazed. It was a heady high which I expected since I harvested early and amazingly the high lasted for 3 hours. Normally from 1 bowl I stay high only for like 45 mins. I'm gonna give one more smoke report after the buds have cured for a week. Its still gonna be a few more days till they are done drying.

One thing I have noticed is that the buds are not packed very tightly and are light and fluffy. I'm gonna make sure I push the other girls a few weeks longer then I did Candice.

[miley]

May is still going strong but I over ferted her a bit last time and she has some burnt tips on her leaves. Other then that shes still going strong but has at least a couple weeks to go.

[miley]

April is finally starting to get ripe and got her last shot of ferts last night. Shes still going strong though packing the buds on and I believe might yield more then Candice did. I filled her pot up to the top with soil to give her roots a bit more room to grow till shes done. She only has a few sun leaves left and those few look really bad.

[miley]

I'm starting to think that growing out June is a bad idea. She is going to take at least another month which sucks balls. The papaya plants that I have growing are only 4 weeks into flowering and already passed june up. If shes not done by the time they are shes gonna get chopped at her current state. That being because I am planning on shutting down my grow room for a few months after the Papaya are done. Not 100% set on it yet but leaning toward it. I have plans to do a decent sized outdoor grow in the spring and if the supply i get from my grow can hold me over till then I wont need to grow.

[whisky]

you could just pop june entirely into a pan and make cannabutter... no sense smoking that when you got the others...
speaking about others ...
ooo wajakkaaa...oooo senseii.... :jointsmile:
keep cool. may, dont get too big!
whisky:)

[Shovelhandle]

I would forget about quantity and figure that it will make up in quality. Grow it out all the way. Everything else looks so fantastic...

Sho

[smokenss]

may and april make my mouth water:D.just wish my plants were flerther along im in week 3:(

[miley]

Candice's long journey from seed to my pipe/bong has finally ended. After drying for 10 days I put all the buds into mason jars to cure. I still have a bit of dope that I bought a few weeks back left to hold me over long enough for it to cure a bit. I'll just smoke it as I need it and let it cure as long as I can. I've tryed it twice since my last report and I must say its pretty damn good. I got the scale back out before I put it in the jars and came up with a dry weight of 0.80 ounces which kinda disappointed me because wet it weighed 4.43 ounces. Thats an 82% drop in weight from wet to dry. I wish now that I could have let her go for another few weeks but I didnt have a choice. I definately wont make that mistake with her sisters. I cant complain though i got over 3/4 of an O off one plant on my first attempt.

[zebulon]

Looking gr8....nice work:thumbsup:...
That third pic. whit your cat is such a good picture...:jointsmile:

[hydrocannabis]

gr8 job miley.:D

[cwesto]

Miley, May is a very sexy girl. I would kid-nap here and we would never be seen again :D. Keep up the good work bro

[apathy24]

mad props to you on this wonderful grow!! smoke 1 for me:jointsmile:

[miley]

Thanks everyone for all your kind words and for following my log. It definitely makes it worth while along with having some awesome bud to smoke.

Had a problem arise 2 days ago. One of my cfls not in a hood decided to fall into Aprils top cola. It had to have been there for at least a few hours before I discovered it. It burnt a nice section of it which pisses me off but I did some research and from what I found out she will grow more buds on top of the burnt ones. I hope thats true. I'll have some pics of it in a few days for you all.

[SantaClawz]

Looks very nice. I'd smoke your weed.

[miley]

Hey everyone. Sorry i didnt get any pics up last night but i'll try tonight. No promises though. Something major has come up in my personal life and I just havent been able to do it yet.

[miley]

Here's May still putting on more and more buds. I noticed tonight that alot of her pistils are now amber. The time is drawing neigh. The few fan leaves she has left look like shit though. They have ugly yellow and brown spots on them. I've also noticed that her top cola is growing alot faster in certain spots. I think this might be due to me not rotating her under the lights for awhile.

[miley]

Heres April a few days since the accident with the cfl. You'll notice the burns on the side of her top cola. Other then that she keeps chugging on with her end being in site.

[miley]

June is finally starting to show some buds from under her thick skirt of leaves. But nothing to write home about. Her top cola is still very dinky and shes better get a boob job or something to speed this along.

[miley]

The time finally arrived for April last night. She probably could have went another week but her sisters needed the room. It didnt take long to harvest her and get the buds laid out. I kept some of the leaves that were close to her buds that had trics on them. It makes good fatty rolling material and theres no sense in wasting it or making it into hash which is a pain compared to this. Aprils top cola seems to be alot fatter then Candices and I am curious as to what it will look like after drying. Total wet weight was 4.47 ounces and should dry to just under an ounce. I'll let it dry on the newspaper rotating daily for 7-10 days then into the jars to cure until I am ready for it. She was between 22-25 inches tall (i forgot to measure before chopping). Vegged for 3 weeks and flowered for 12 under 303 watts of flourscent light.

[miley]

Heres my sexy May starting to look not so sexy anymore but I dont care i still love her. lol. I've decided to chop her next week once Aprils buds are done drying. I'm gonna scratch the idea I had to regen her due to the fact that shes all buds and has only a few crappy looking leaves left. No sense in wasting some buds trying it. Shes been getting straight water now for about a month and should be clear of nutes.

[miley]

Here's June. Shes finally starting to look like shes getting some buds but still doesnt need a bra yet. lol. Most of her leaves are starting to yellow a bit so I am gonna cut the ferts back. Shes still got a ways to go. Is Sativa bud really worth this wait?

[miley]

Here are the dried bud shots from April. It ended up weighing 0.83 ounces. It was dried for 8 days and put into the jars. I havent tried it yet but it was a really pungent smell thats shocking at first. I hope some of that dissipates during curing.

[miley]

Shes due to be harvested in the next few days.

[miley]

Shes still going.

[Shovelhandle]

Wow, this is a pretty long grow, Miley. You did well waiting this plant out. (almost 3-1/2 months of flowering!) I will be curious as to how you like the smoke. BTW, are you that cat in the avatar?

Shov

[miley]

Hey Shov your right about this being a long grow and that is definately a downfall of growing with just flouro's. May's gonna be harvested soon but June will definately push on for a while longer. As well as the Papaya and the Skunk x Haze plants I've got going. The smoke from candice is great and all my friends keep asking me who I get it from so they can get it. I havent told them about my grow and dont intend too. As far as they know I get it from "some guy in town". They have smoked it with me though and loved it. And yes I am the cat in the avatar. lol. Do you know how hard it is to grow weed without thumbs? lol.

[Shovelhandle]

My present grow, http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/129752-shov-s-christmas-grow.html is also all flourescent lighting. 394 watts of warm white. I expect that at eight weeks most will show some cloudy tricomes. I plan to pull one or two of the more mature plants at this point. The other six plants I plan to let go until they show aproximately 25% red and 75% cloudy. I hope it won't take but 10-12 weeks of 12/12 total.

At what point will you harvest your plants, and do you use the tricome color to determine this?

Thanks,

Sho

[JackHerer]

LOL cats 'n' weed aye used to have a cat that loved rolling in the weed. Whenever I got a delivery I had to lock him out the house till I sorted it unless I wanted an indica x cathair, he also loved the exhaust of bong hits would probably have sucked one up himself if he could have covered the carb hole.

Also had a kitten I chased all around an apartment building with an 1/8 of black hash proudly sticking out of its mouth. The wee thing thought it was a game & it was quite funny.:jointsmile:

[miley]

Hey Shov. I checked out you grow again and its looking awesome. As far as harvesting goes my first 2 plants were harvested a few weeks earlier then I wanted to because of lack of space in my grow room. I have a 30x loupe but its really hard to see the difference between clear and cloudy trics so i've been going by the pistil color and by how the plants are doing. The one thing I could see with the loupe was when the thc was starting to show signs of degradation. This is when the fully form tric starts to lean over. Just before turning amber.

Hey Jack.

Cats are pretty awesome but can be a big pain in the ass as well. Depending on how many ya got. I give my cats my male plants and leaves I get off the females. They love it. Though most dont like pot smoke blown in their face a few dont mind it and get stoned with me. lol. I have one that when it was a kitten it liked to hide in my open dresser drawer. So I blew a big bong hit in the drawer and shut it with him in there for a bit. He came out ran around like crazy for like 15 mins then passed out in the corner it was hilarious.

[hydrocannabis]

UR buds look killer.

[JackHerer]

Hi Miley hope those buds are doing well. Bit of a delay finding it but was holding of replying till I found the pic of Woody aka Woodstock having his share of a bong hit. His favourite sleeping place was my guitar cases. The pic has survived a couple of decades odd & several moves which looks like water damage, should still be able to make out the smoke.

There is an article in the December 2007 issue of High Times about getting pets stoned, worth a look for the photo's alone.

[SFGurrilla]

IA, you'll be super pissed when your kitty starts taking off with your sack. I had a cat that liked to do that, I'd wake in the morning and my shit would be gone and all that would be left is the baggie.

:jointsmile: Bree

And one stoned ass cat.

[miley]

May finally got the axe last week. She was cut and all the bud left on her main stem until it dried for a week then I snipped the buds off and put them in the jars to cure. Total dry weight of her buds was 0.82 ounces. I'll post a smoke report on Her and her sister April once i get around to trying it. I'm still smoking the first plant I harvested a month ago. Stay tuned for that.

Hey SF thanks for stopping in.

Awesome pic of your cat Jack. Theres nothing better then sharing some dope with your favorite feline. lol.

[hydrocannabis]

dammmmm. :D

[miley]

Here's my last plant from my 2nd wave of bagseed plants. Once she finishes up that will be the end of this thread. This is the start of month 4 of flowering and I must say it definately wasnt worth the wait. Junes buds are very small and dont have many trics on them. Oh well. She fell into the lights last week and burned her top cola. I'm gonna let her go another week or 2 but thats it. Shes not gonna stay upright much longer because of the huge lean shes got going on.

[miley]

I'm honestly not sure how much longer June is gonna hold out. I've been saying its gonna be the next few weeks for like 2 months now lol. BTW i'm drunk off my ass on Jack Daniels. Woo hoo. Anyways, this is week 17 of flowering for June week 20 total. She is starting to get close to being done. I know that for a fact. Her bottom buds have 75% amber pistils but her trics are still clear. Though she doesnt have many trics at all. And I'll say it once again I vow never to grow out a Sativa again. This bud from her better blow my freaking mind to make it worth all the hassle she's given me. On another note I have smoked all of Candice and half of April while may is still curing. I must say that Candice's bud was very good. A bit better then April's. And Candice was the best smelling of the 3. What i have smoked of April has been good but like i said not quite as good as Candice. The one thing i have noticed about both of them is that the buds werent very tightly packed and they burn very quickly. I think this may be due to the fact that they werent quite ready yet when i harvested them. I am gonna take my time with the Papaya I have growing now and see if they will pack more tightly. Stay tuned. Especially you Skrap. lol.

[pokherking]

Great Job ! Miley, i have really enjoyed reading and checking in on your grow, and i'm glad to see all has gone well, i give congrats to you and thank guys like you who post logs for others to learn from, i imagine it takes some time to put it all together, thank you.I am in the process of my first grow and encountered some problems in the begining but sorted them out and grew 5 healthy plants, unfortunately it was bag seed and 4 out of 5 were males, anyways i wanna post a pic and see what u think of her, the pics aren't great sorry but she is just at the end of her 3rd week in flower and she gets Alaska Morbloom(0-10-10)with a small bit of fish fert, and molasses.She is under 6- 4ft. fluro tubes , 1- 42 watt cfl and a 29 watt cfl, good ventilation and in a small but tall closet. crap now i realize i can't post a pic for some reason, there is no option at the bottom of the page to insert attachments

[miley]

Hey Pokhering thanks for dropping in and for the props. I'm glad to hear that my log has inspired people to grow especially using flouresent lights. The reason you cant post a pic is because you have under 50 posts on here. Just go post like a mofo and you'll be able to post it. Cant wait to see.

[pokherking]

i posted some pics in the indoor growing section if you wanna have a look, the first post pictures suck but i got my camera figured out and there are some good ones on there

[miley]

After 3 weeks of vegging and 18 weeks of flowering i've finally cut down June. She could have went a tad bit longer but the weight of her cola was making her lean so bad I was afraid she would fall over. That as well as most of her leaves were starting to die off and looking really nasty. Like i stated several times in this log i swear i will never grow out another sativa. Not only do they take forever to grow but they are a super pain in the ass to harvest. I didnt get a wet weight on it because it took me so long to harvest her that I didnt get time to. I will post a dry weight in a few days before I put it in the jars to cure. This log will be coming to an end soon because June was the last plant left in this grow. I still have to post a smoke report on May and now on June when the time comes. I'll also post some dry bud shots of June before it goes to cure.

[pokherking]

This might be a stupid question but i can't seem to figure out how you grow ur plants like that, how do u get all the bud sites to run up the main stock like that????? And not have branches shooting out with bud sites on them ???I thought it was just the strain but it looks like you have the same looking plants with different strains,,,, any help ??? i would like my plants to grow like that but i got this, any my plant takes up way more space than the technique you have going there

[Mr. Clandestine]

Like i stated several times in this log i swear i will never grow out another sativa.

That was going to be my first, and only, recommendation. 18 weeks of flowering? That's tedious.

Besides that, enjoy enjoying the fruits of your labor. She looks tasty! :thumbsup:

[miley]

Hey Pokherking sorry it took me so long to respond. There are a few reasons why my plants grow the way they do. I believe due to the short veg time, small pots, and lack of space in my grow room. Also, I think having all fluorescent lighting might have something to do with it.

[Shovelhandle]

miley, great finish to June.
I had one plant that had that single cola look this grow. It was the only bubblegum. Usually my bubblegum plants grow like Christmas trees, very wide and branchy. This run she had 2 weeks less veg time as the onthers (still, six full weeks). Plus,it was the only plant that I didn't crop the top, just the underneath branches.

Shov

[miley]

Here are the dried bud shots of June. Her total dry weight was 0.66 ounces. I was kinda disappointed with that but i think some of it is because i let her dry to long. Oh well. Better then nothing. I'll be posting another reply with the smoke report from May soon.

[Bodom Children Of]

budlicious! :smokin:

[miley]

Thanks for the props Bodom. I finally tried out the buds I got from May and I must say they are pretty kick ass. They have a really great piney smell and its even better after you grind it in a grinder. I gave a small bit to my brother for his Bday and he was really impressed with it. May is definitely my favorite smoke so far from the plants I have raised and harvested. I wish I could let everyone on this forum try it but alas I cant. Its all mine lol.