Shov's Christmas Grow

[Shovelhandle]

Yah, Christmas is coming, so I decided to start a grow that will be curing in time for the holidays.
This morning I mixed a batch of soil using promix potting soil, vermiculite, perlite, and worm castings. I filled 24 or so two cup pots, topped off with plant starter mix and planted some Bubblegum as well as some seeds from my last grow which were bagseed Y, bagseed Z and Foxy Seeds Afghani x BOG Medley. The X and Y plants were polinated with the Foxy Seed plants. They are put under four T-5 54W lamps for now.

I'll put up photos as soon as things sprout.

Shovelhandle

[AustinMan]

Sounds interesting. =] Keep us updated.

[JohnHerer]

:thumbsup:

[D Rock]

Boy these T5's are gaining in popularity. Good to see. Cant wait to see pics of this grow sounds interesting.

[Shovelhandle]

D Rock sez..."Boy these T5's are gaining in popularity. Good to see. Cant wait to see pics of this grow sounds interesting."

I posted the first log in this "new" forum last year and followed up with another. Both use the T-5 HO lamps. They were not the best grows efficiency wise but I found it acceptable, for sure! Really not bad at all!

sho

[Weedhound]

Wheres some photos and an update.....????:wtf:

[stinkyattic]

Neat, Shov- do I recall correctly that your last grow was harvested on the 4th of July? Or am I hallucinating your holiday grow timing?

[Weedhound]

Really? What a sly little devil you are shov....;)

[canuck grower]

stinky: I think shov is a fellow canuck for some reason. I could definitely be mistaken. An early July harvest makes sense for both canucks and 'mericans anyway though.

shov: hmmm. anything sprout yet? :)

[Shovelhandle]

I do have about 40-50 sprouts in 20 pots and I've already picked out a dozen or two weeklings. (as usual, look at my other logs in the first weeks. Must be because I come from a very large family) <G>

I'm taking good care of them and I will photo them as soon as I thin them into one per pot.


Sho

[Weedhound]

Culling the herd eh? What's the herd usually end up being after the weaklings are gone from 40-50 seeds?

[miley]

Cant wait for the pics man!

[Shovelhandle]

Weedhound sez...
Culling the herd eh? What's the herd usually end up being after the weaklings are gone from 40-50 seeds?
It was probably more like 80 seeds. But I will cull down to a dozen and then hope I have room for them all until they show sex. I hope for six to eight plants to mature.

[Weedhound]

Wow....that's some heavy duty culling there. What are some of your criteria for seedlings....how do you decide which ones to keep etc....Obviously the heartier ones but what else do you base your decision on?

[stinkyattic]

I know Shov's not a 'Nuck... His local climate however means he might as well be.

[Shovelhandle]

See my post in Basic Growing "What ate my Bubblegum..."

I repotted 18 plants. Sorry to say, I only have one good bubblegum right now.

Criteria...hmmm, I know what that is <G> I save the strong, kill the weak and infirmed! <G>. Well, the BG seeds are commercial seed stock, so I plant and cull less of them. The other seeds I have plenty to play with.

Sorry, no pics yet. I'm very busy, going out of town and coming back with my daughter for a few days visit.

Later

Sho

[canuck grower]

I know Shov's not a 'Nuck... His local climate however means he might as well be.

heh, and with my local climate i may as well be a yank. :)

[Shovelhandle]

Photos aren't the best... I think the soil is too hot. I used last grow's soil and it had lots of flower nutes. I did thin it out with new vermiculite, perlite, worm castings and early potting soil. The plants that are making it now are tough. Pretty much got each variety covered pretty well though. I'm sure it's gonna fire up nicely soon. <G>

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[Stealth331]

I enjoy reading these. I will follow.

Never grown but man oh man ...I've read enough to get a degree... lol

Thanks for sharing!

[Weedhound]

Well Stealth it's certainly never too late to START growing.... ;)

[Shovelhandle]

Hey, Buh-wheat! <G>

[Shovelhandle]

The "Z" and the Afghani by Foxy Seed plants are doing the best. There is relatively little nute burn on these plants. There are aprox 16 going right now. I had to start the bubblegum again since they couldn't take the spicey soil mix.

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SHO

[Weedhound]

they've grown quite a bit since your last photos Shov....looking good. :thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

thanks, weedhound It's been a week since the last pics.
...btw, what kinda animal is that in your arms and why is there tarantula in it's mouth?

Sho <G>

[Weedhound]

That's a tarantula-eating hyena there Shov. :D Good eye on your part for recognizing that right off the bat. :thumbsup:

That's ALOT of growth for one week....good job. :)

[Shovelhandle]

I re-hung the (2) 2 lamp x 4' T-8s and (1) (4) lamp x 4' T-5HOs
and transplanted a dozen plants into larger 2-3 gallon planters. I also FIMed these 12 plants (foxyseed afghani, "Y" and "Z" types). Most have 6 or more nodes. I usually wait until the sixth week but this is almost the end of the fifth week this time.
The (4) little bubblegums, I just moved them into two larger pots. Then I watered 'emall in with Neptune nutes.
After all this I moved out all the small pots an swept up the loose soil and dust.

I usually post photos on Friday, so stay tuned. <G>

Sho

[Weedhound]

What is a Y and Z type?

[Shovelhandle]

... were unknown "bag-seedlings" from last grow (finished in time for July Fourth..<G>) They were grown alongside with Foxy Seed's Afghani X Bog Medley and were polinated by the same. The results were decent enough to continue the line. We think that the Foxy Seed produced the slightly best herb of all...it's close though!

Anyhow...here's the photo, Weedhound!

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Shovelmaster

[Weedhound]

THey look very happy. Nice tight and short nodes. :thumbsup:

[stinkyattic]

They look wonderful! And the ducky is excellent. No wonder Weedhound showed up; she's doing a waterfowl welfare check!

[Weedhound]

Wow I didn't even SEE that duck.....now that's a hell of an example of blending in with the enviroment :D

[Shovelhandle]

But, did you see the "glow in the dark" frog behind it?

Shov

[Chronisseur]

Hey Shov! Comin' right along, eh?
It's lookin' like I'm gonna take a run with the same blood. Personally, I may not keep a log, but would be more than happy to share a tip or two! Nice work thus far, I'll definately check in from time to time. :thumbsup:

[Weedhound]

Lol, is that like a superball frog?

[Shovelhandle]

I don't know about superballs but you can squirt water with it <G>
I'll see if it will come out next photo update.

Shov

[SDK SLAYER]

Hey Shov...looking good dude....keep up the good work my man....check out my Aussie Growers thread down in the AU section....I'll be popping in from time to time to keep ya'll updated on what's happening in my part of the world :thumbsup: I'll give you a hint....JTR....Northern Lights#5 x Haze....and many more....:giggity: :woohoo:
:hippy:
Slayer

[Shovelhandle]

Five and a half weeks since planting the seeds and I've got female preflowers on two plants, both are Foxy Seeds afghani hybrid (I need a better name for this variety, Stinker). Tomorrow when I water I'll re-arrange so I can keep a good eye out for other developements.


Sho

[stinkyattic]

but.. but.. it's not stabilized yet!!! It's not worthy of a name! Its close relative got the name 'Foxy's Dream' but still a work in progress.

[Shovelhandle]

ya well, officially, I guess there's plenty of tight-assed protocol to the naming of the strains but I'd rather be able to call it something and have the people in the know, know what I'm talikng about. Dig? We just call is the afghani hybrid, I guess that's ok but no credit to the work done.

The plants are in their sixth week. The FIMed tops are starting to heal. And, I stripped the bottom three or so nodes from the bottom. I've been feeding Fish emulsion and fish/seaweed emulsion.

There are two Afghani hybrids (I lost the photos while editing...duh!), both show female pistils like this...
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Here's a pic of the four "Y" plants. No sign of sex yet.
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And, here's five "Z" plants. No sex here either.
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The Bubblegum plants are but three little runts only a couple of weeks old. No pics this time.


Shovelhandle

[Shovelhandle]

I think the "Picture Posting Machine" is broke. I tried to insert my photos in the last post and it posted dead links.
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Well, here they are, in order!

Sho

[Shovelhandle]

Watered today and checked for preflowers. Now both Afghani and two "Z" plants (out of five) are verified females so far. No males have shown yet.

Shov

[ProGroWannabe]

Looks like those girls have a good caretaker! Keep 'em comin Shov.

[Shovelhandle]

It's been 8 weeks and time to flip. However, I just picked up a nute pack from Technafloura Plant Products so I fed them the menu as shown. The 12 or so plants take 4 gallons of water with "BC Boost", "BC Grow", "Thrive Alive B1 Red", and a foliar feeding of "Thrive Alive B1 Green".

While the plants are dripping and drying I will swap out the (8) 4' 5000K flourescent tubes for the 3000K Flowering Stage lighting.
I will use plain water for the next two feedings and go to the Technafloura Flowering Stage products.

Have any of you tried these products and have an opinion of their value?

Thanks,

Sho

[ProGroWannabe]

Sorry I can't help ya there Shov. Never used em. Where's the pics? lol No pressure though, no pressure.

[Shovelhandle]

I have to cull the crop. Too crowded in the 3' x 4' space.
I had been waiting to cull male plants but each of the 12 plants to show sex have been females!

Here are the remaining four plants. They are looking pretty fine, but haven't shown preflowers and like I said, too crowded so out they go.
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Sho

[Shovelhandle]

A couple of other growing points of interest. I also trained the remaining plants. Kind of lst but the way I do this (usually outdoors) is to fold the long branches right over. Now the plants are taking over a larger footprint of light but more of the bottoms of each plant get better light too. Bottom line, everything is as crowded as before.

Also, Last night I noticed that the light timer had not shut off. It was broken. So I replaced it with a spare and since I had (thought that I had) started 12-12, I wasn't sure how long I was on 24-0 Definetly only a day or so. So I set it up for 6 am-6 pm lights on starting tomorrow am. So, the plants will have a dark period for about 30 hours before they start into flowering stage.....again. : )

The (4) culled plants are just too nice to ditch outright, and I'd like to see if actually, all 16 plant are females (indoors they are 12 for 12 so far...no males!) So, I put the four plants in a cold frame. They will have to go 8 weeks at least to maturity and in Vermont this is doubtful, but we've had some weird weather lately, so here goes!

I'll post a pic of the two Afghani plants at the end of this week or so.

Shov

[Weedhound]

What's a cold frame?

[Shovelhandle]

a cold frame is like a low-rise greenhouse. Just a wooden frame sitting on the ground with a pane of glass on top. It keeps the cold night air from the plants and heats up the soil nicely during the day.

Sho

[Weedhound]

Ahh...thank you. Bummer about those 4 beauties you had to toss. Next time ship those babies my way and I'll find them homes....:D

[Shovelhandle]

The Premier strain is Foxy's Afghani x Bog Medley
Here are two females.
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Other good strains are the "Y" and "Z"
Here's one Y and four Z females.
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Also a Premier strain is our Vermont Bubblegum. This seed bred stock is still very potent herb and a favorite. These are weeks younger and have not sexed as of yet...fingers crossed!
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Shov

[Weedhound]

Gorgeous Shov. Excellent work. :thumbsup:

[ProGroWannabe]

You've definitely got some bushes there Shov! They look like they're lovin life so far.

[Shovelhandle]

Bless your little hearts!
I still have a serious crowding problem to deal with. Imagine those nine plants are in a 3' x 4' space with 352 watts of flourescent tubes? They are stuffed...what to do, what to do?

Sho

[Weedhound]

ha ha.....they'll blow your walls out Shov......:eek:

[ProGroWannabe]

Sounds like a SOG to me.....ummm maybe not on purpose, but a SOG none-the-less!?!

[Shovelhandle]

ha ha.....they'll blow your walls out Shov......

the "walls" are nothing but cardboard stock with mylar. : )
but, I added a 250 watt HID. I still may have to 86
some more plants or branches i n the future.

Sho

[Shovelhandle]

The grow is two weeks into flowering now. I've continued to thin the crop and now have only 8 female plants (no males), but it's as thick as it's ever been.

This is a "Z". As I posted early on, I FIMed the Zs, the Ys, the Afghani hybrids. About two weeks ago I bent them over kind of like a LST but not so much on the "L" (light). I have four Zs and one Y.
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This one is an Afghani hybrid, there are two of these varieties.
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And this is a Bubblegum from seed. I've only one of these. It was started a few weeks later than the others. The other BG was the only male that sprouted this grow. I did not FIM or train this plant either. I'm hoping for good weight from this one as BG is my fav amongst these varieties.
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Thank you for your kind attention,
Shov : ]

[ProGroWannabe]

Lookin good shov. That Bubble Gum looks especially good!

[Shovelhandle]

All's progressing pretty well.

Here's the Bubblegum
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Here's one of the Afghani hybrids.
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Thanks for the nice thoughts...
Sho

[stinkyattic]

Wow! They look beautiful. The Afghani X needs a bigger pot soon.... :D

[Shovelhandle]

thanks.
off topic...I'm kickin back with a new mc parts catalog (wish book), burnin' a couple of bowls of afghani and drinkin' Tim Wakfield Knuckleball Wine. heheh

Sho

[ProGroWannabe]

And not a friggin care in the world huh shov? lol

[Shovelhandle]

26 days of flowering.

Here's a picture of the afghani taken in the back yard. There's one other afghani that looks the same as this one. Notice the bigger pots!
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One of the four "Z" plants (again, they all are identical)
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Here is the only Bubblegum I have going this grow. It is smaller than the others as it is a few weeks younger.
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There are still a total of eight plants and they are all very healthy. I watered them with a little molasses this morning and gave them a little foliage feeding with B1. The temperature stays around 80º during light hours and down to the 70s at night.

Sho

[Weedhound]

They look absolutely wonderful shov!! :thumbsup: How much molassas due you use in watering them and how often do you add it?

[Shovelhandle]

Of course you can see that the plants are in soil.
Anyhow, I use 2 tablespoons to the gallon. And at this time I can feed each of the plants 2 quarts of liquid at each watering. I water every 2-3 days.
And like I said, I'm using two gallons (2 quarts each for eight plants = 2 gallons).
The plants will probably not get much "thirstier" from this point on, maybe three gallons every other day.
I have a cycle of three. Nute - Molasses/Water -Plain Water.
I'm using a technofloura nute program.

Thanks for asking.

Sho

[Shovelhandle]

I just re-read my last post.
I'm pretty wrecked, had a bowl for lunch LMAO!
Im not sure it makes sense. <G>

shO

[ProGroWannabe]

Makes plenty of sense shov. And wow those girls LOOOOVE you. They really have great color.

[Skrappie]

Shovel, I'm doing a very simular watering.

molasses only, ferts and molasses, water only.

I think having a rotating watering schedule goes a long way in making sure the girls don't get too much of a good thing.

[ProGroWannabe]

I think having a rotating watering schedule goes a long way in making sure the girls don't get too much of a good thing.

If more soil growers would truly understand that Skrappie, they'd save themselves a world of grief, huh?

[Lucky_13]

:thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

Week 13.
Here's a weak photo of one of the "Z" bagseed plants. It was FIMed and has many, many 4-5" buds all around the plant. Top branches were also bent/broken over to keep even lighting all around the plants. They still keep growing nice and green.
Other than one Bubblegum, the rest of the plants all look like this one. Tomorrow they get another dose of flowering nutes.
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Sho

[Shovelhandle]

All eight loves are doing nicely.
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they're all in there. I sure <G>

Shov

[ProGroWannabe]

Just beeeeeautiful shov! Are you running a combination of flowering bulbs and veg bulbs, or all flowering bulbs?

[Shovelhandle]

Right now, the lamps are all soft white light from 3000K -3500K.
The veg lamps I used were 500K-6500K.

I accidentally cut off a short bud last week. waiting patiently for it to dry out. : ]

[smokenss]

how many lamps r u using shovel

[Weedhound]

Shov toss that bud onto something warm like your tv or fridge and it will dry out faster (just gentle heat)

Your plants are AWESOME big HEALTHY beasts. I see a VERY happy X-mas coming your way. :thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

I put it on the back of the stove as my wife made chocolate brownies with a solid chocolate bar center. The Bud dried out, I rolled a dube and smoked it. It was potent enough , but tasted for shyt, really. <G>
Howeva, I don't have to smoke that (thank God) The afghani BOG from last grow is grand!

Shov

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Looking very nice!!!

I am about a month behind you. I am doing a similar grow but larger in plants and space. It is nice see what I am in for and plan ahead.

[Shovelhandle]

Thank you, boys and girls! I'll keep posting weekly updates.

Shov

[tokr2153]

nice girls hope my girls look as good as yours:) i'am in day 34 of flower and they're looking promising but keep us posted

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Shov,
What is your flowering nute formula?
I want to see if I want to incorporate in my grow.
thanks in advance.

[Shovelhandle]

I picked up this assortment package of BC products (http://http://homeharvest.com/hydroponicnutrienttechnaflora.htm)

Shov

[stinkyattic]

Heya Shov, just checkin' in! Don't forget to let me know if you ever venture south...

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Shov,
I hit that link and comes up invalid address, could be me though, but can you check
thanks

[Shovelhandle]

Technaflora Plant Products - Recipe For Success (http://www.technaflora.com/recipe.php)



Try that. Look at the package at the bottom of the page, that's what I'm using. My past two logs have details of their nutes too (different).

Sho

[Shovelhandle]

TechnaFlora Hydroponic Nutrients at Home Harvest Garden Supply (http://homeharvest.com/hydroponicnutrienttechnaflora.htm)

here'

Sh

[Shovelhandle]

Here are a couple of attempts at bud-closeups.
These first two are Afghani/BOG hybrid from Foxy Seeds.

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These two buds are "Bag Z"/ Afghani/BOG.

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I will definetly harvest something (at least 1 or 2 "Z" plants) after eight weeks to cure in time for the holidays. The rest I'll harvest at their peak.

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

hey, Smokenss. Sorry, your post snuck by me. I have a 3' x 4' are with one (4-lamp) 4' T5HO fixture, two (2-lamp) T8 fixtures and a 42W CFL. All are warm white, at this time.

Shovelhandle

[Weedhound]

Those look SWEET!.....Starting to drool alittle....:)

[frontman]

Nice thread Shov been following your progress..looking VERY good....and well looked after.:thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

thanks :]

I'm hoping that the two afghani will put on some weight in the next couple of weeks. Heck, I wouldn't mind if they all bulked up a bit more. But the "Z girls" really seem to have lots more bud mass at this point.

I transplanted the late starter, Bubblegum, into a 5 gallon bucket and watered with a low dose of root stimulator and Trive Alive B1 Green.

Shov

[whisky]

those look marvelous :)

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Looking very nice!

[Shovelhandle]

Photo update the plants are into there 7th week of flower, almost 8th. It's been pretty cool in the grow area, 67º - 75º. Growth could be quicker, but the plants look health, dropping lots of yellow and brown leaves.

Here are the two Afghani and a 'ghani bud.
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Here's a "Z" plant and bud.
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And, here is the top of the bubblegum.
I hope to have a growth spirt here, as this is my favorite "tea" and this plant isn't going to be a huge producer. A week ago I took off some bottom popcorn and dried it. I just puffed some and it is fuckin' A. <G>
(ya, I know I just pinched a bud of it last week) :p
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Shov

[bud luv]

howdy shov.

BG not a good producer? Or just that plant/pheno specifically? I have an "interest" in some BGs right now. ;)

[Shovelhandle]

I've grown a few generations of Bubblegum. I'm sure that the nutes were not a negative fator in this grow.

Thanks for the question, budluv.

Shovelhandle

[Shovelhandle]

sorry, too high. lol...

umm... No the genetics for bubblegum is very good. The BG just had a late start with this grow.

[bud luv]

lol right on bro. I'm a first time BG-er

[dodohead]

lookin great, any new pics of this great green christmas bud?

[Shovelhandle]

I usually post pics weekly, around Friday. This week I'll be out of town. There is one other variety that I've not posted a pic of. Maybe I'll try to get a shot up today.

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

Yo, I be all wet. There is only three varieties. No pics until this weekend or so. Sorry.

Shov :stoned:

[Skrappie]

ride shovel ride on your mystery ship...

those are high quality plants from good growing shov'

the training on the first picture in post #94 is BEAUTIFUL.

[JackHerer]

Good growing Shov your buds are always nice & your logs interesting.

[Shovelhandle]

I decided to try and get some of this grow ready for the holiday. Yup, a little late but I can't rush now. The plants have flowered for 8 weeks. The Zs have some cloudies showing so I am going to pull two of them this week.
Today I flushed all 5 Zs and aerated the soil using a garden trowel around the edge of the buckets and lifting the soil up. Most plants seem to like this, especially in wet conditions (such as flushing). They are back in the garden to dry for a couple of days before I put 'em in the dark/warm for 36 hours before I harvest.

I tried to take some pics but I was too shakeeey but here's a couple.

a 'foxy seed 'ghani bud
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bubblegum top
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"Z" buds
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The Patch
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Shov

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Very nice!!!!!

You came out with an awsome grow shove!

Was wondering how it was going been awhile since your last post.

Mine are just starting to bud have 6 to 8 weeks to go.

[Shovelhandle]

Thank you, JG. I wish I could take the time to photograph the plants better... Lazy about that, I guess. Your logs are doing very well too, Bub! It sure would be fun to share our stashes with each other here in the Grow Log Forum, but I guess we'll have to just smoke our own and pretend. lol

BTW, the best weed from my last grow was the afghani x bog medley from Foxy Seeds. It really works well (it got better after it cured for a few months too). I used a male to germinate with the fems of the same Foxy seed as well as the "Z" bagseed plants. So, these plants all have those genes except for the bubblegum. I can't wait until the crop is finished (cut, dried and cured for a few months). I just hope that I have enough stash to last that long. <G>

Shovel

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Well looks like your going to have a MERRY CHRISTMAS and a VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR :)
and I am going to really enjoy the Superbowl!!!

BTW I started another log for my second crop from the clones of my first crop and some seeds of another strain.

[Shovelhandle]

BTW I started another log for my second crop from the clones of my first crop and some seeds of another strain

Yup, Seen it, it's gonna be a good one!



Was wondering how it was going been awhile since your last post.

Well, I do make a pic post each week, I think...

16 Weeks (http://http://boards.cannabis.com/1753964-post104.html)

Week 15 (http://boards.cannabis.com/1742507-post94.html)

Sixth week of Blooming (14 Weeks) (http://boards.cannabis.com/1735467-post87.html)


Week 14 coming up (http://boards.cannabis.com/1728153-post72.html)

32 days of flowering (http://boards.cannabis.com/1722804-post71.html)

Week 12 (http://boards.cannabis.com/1714480-post63.html)


Week Eleven (http://boards.cannabis.com/1709263-post59.html)


Whoa, I think you know where this is going? LMAO!

Stay Tuned!

Sho

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

YUP I see where your going I am going to do the same unless called for or I get board. :)

[hydrocannabis]

all of UR stuff looks great to me.

[SantaClawz]

Mmmmmm....afghani...
Your grow is a thing of beauty, nice to have a variety.

[Shovelhandle]

The temps in the grow have been 10º lower than normal. I'm using 100% flourescents with electronic ballasts, so not much heat there. This has effected the grow as some of the buds are smaller and growth is slower. For the size of this grow I could add an HID ficture but no funds for that. A 1500 watt electric heater with fan and t'stat is overkill. So, I got a heavy duty GE Halogen 70W flood lamp. This will suply some additional lighting and lots of heat!
I have a couple of themometers set up, so I'll see how it's working out.

Thanks,

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

The Z-ghanis are not as ready as I wanted, so today I put the one plant having the most difficulty with the cool/dampness into the dark for 36 hrs preharvest. I changed the 70 W halogen flood for a 100W and that brought the temp up to 70-75º. Much better. Inspection with a microscope shows 50/50 clear and cloudy trics as well as a little bit of red spots in some.

Here's a photo of the one little Bubblegum in front of four of the Z-ghanis.
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Shov

[MVP]

Great problem solving with the 100W flood, and that Bubblegum looks yum-yum tasty!

MVP :jointsmile:

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

You got me salivating.
AWSOME job Shov!!!

How tall are they?

[iriebowl]

looks great shov. by the way im thinking bout harvesting this week and was wondering what the all dark period before harvest does?

[smokenss]

they look fucn gr8 top job shov:smokin:

[rottenfork]

they are some fat buds shov, good job how long more you going to give them? a week or two ? they look just about cooked haooy christmas eh!!!

[Shovelhandle]

Garden temps have been 75-85º lately, that's real good.

I have the first plant trimmed and hanging after 48 hours of darkness as suggested by BOG, Jorges and other smart peeps, some say it's an old wives tale.

How tall are the plants? Well, they have been broken over, so they aren't as tall as they would otherwise be. I'd say 18" average but they would have been 36" had they been left alone. Why did I do this? To keep the buds closer to the lights.

They look just about cooked in some photos, but under the microscope the trics are still 50% clear. The hairs are mostly dark though. They have been flowering for nine weeks, I think most of them will need 1-3 more weeks, especially that Bubblegum.

I don't think I will have any of this ready for the holiday, but luckily I still have stash from the last indoor grow (my summer/outdoor grow was stolen).

Thanks for the kind words,

Shovelhandle

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Sorry to hear about your summer grow being stolen, Nothing pisses me off more than having my plants stolen. I have had it happen too. So to counter a compleat loss, I now do several small to medium size gardens in differant locations far enough apart so if one is found they won't find the rest. This year I hope to do a bumper crop outside with cloans.

Also thanks for the reply I was wondering because mine are slightly taller 20" to 28" tall right now at the end of their 3rd week of flower. This gives me an idea of what to expect.

again great work shove!!

[MVP]

I don't think I will have any of this ready for the holiday, but luckily I still have stash from the last indoor grow (my summer/outdoor grow was stolen).

Thanks for the kind words,

Shovelhandle

People that steal other's grows should be tied and quartered IMO. Sorry to hear about your loss, I hope 2008 brings you many enjoyable smokes...

[Weedhound]

Stolen?? What FUCKERS!! Sorry to hear that Shov. Got some REALLY nice afgahnis going there....beauties. :thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

I know it...gull darn varmints, I tell ya! I'd like to grow one nasty plant that looks killer except...with no buzz
tastes like shit
smells worse than shit
it gives ya the shits
makes you break out
gives ya itchy elbows, loose stools, sore nipples, limp dick and shit for brains.
any good ideas as to working this wonderful hybrid out? teeheehee

Sho

[Weedhound]

I'd get a security thing.....cross the line.....a flame thrower pops out.....BAM! Just a little pile of ash where your thief used to be....:D

[Shovelhandle]

Anyway.... Here's today's pics.

This is one of the five Z Bagseed x 'Ghani/BOG Medley by FoxySeed. It's the smallest specimen of the five.
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This is the Bubblegum, it's still thriving!
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This is the Bubblegum on Cannabis. Any Questions? LOL
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Shovelmaster

[hydrocannabis]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOW. looks like kick ass weed.

[Shovelhandle]

I hope so, Thanks!

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

One ounce, dry of really Super Seedy Weed.
I don't believe it! :mad: I had the one plant start to show male and I 86ed it pronto! WTF!

Oh well, last grow the most potent plant had the most seeds (a lot of seed!)

It dried so quick as the buds were very light and fluffy, so there is very little odor right now. It's in a glass jar and may moisten up a bit overnight.

Shovelhandle

[Weedhound]

That bubblegum sure DOES look de-LICIOUS as well. :thumbsup:

[sarah louise]

Just wanted to say how much I have enjoyed reading your log so far, sorry to hear about the first one harvested though, that's a bummer :(

Thanks, you've really enthused me Shov. :D

Sara Lou.

[Shovelhandle]

And I just put another Z'ghani into darkness. It was pretty far along as far as it's life cycle yet the trics are not amber at all. At least there will be little trimming to do as there are next to no leaves left at all. I'll post a pic when I harvest it tomorrow evening.

So the count is, two Foxy Seed 'ghani, three Z'ghani and one "tie-dyed" bubblegum left. LOL.

Shov

[MVP]

I love this part of growing - getting to see the flowers. Can't wait to see the pics...

[Weedhound]

Yeah.....WHAT"S TAKING SO LONG??? :D

[atsar]

that's bad news,seedy weed,could one of your plants maybe have turned hermie?most people stop examining their plants closely once they've confirmed they're female,
on the bright side you have plenty seeds for the foreseeable future
looking forward to some new pics

[Shovelhandle]

LMAO... Igonantolya allready! :mad:

I post pics at least once a week, usually Friday or so. I'll post the next Z harvest tomorrow morning, K?

Sho

[Shovelhandle]

Actually, atsar I take the plants from the grow and carefully inspect them all the time. The seeds from that first plant will not be saved. It wasn't a great specimen. But like I said, myself and my friends have no problem smoking seeded weed...once we get all the seeds out. I'll have to find an old LP jacket and put a cotton t shirt over it (just like the old days) to roll the seeds away. <G>

Sho

[Weedhound]

Friday?? OMG.....i'll DIE of waiting before then....:D ;)

[smokealot123]

ya me 2:thumbsup: man sry 2 hear about the stolen plants, happend to me last summer as whell, but i know who took them, not saying any more shit:D

[Shovelhandle]

Another Z 'ghani is cut.

[attachment=o170891] [attachment=o170892]


I'll update the others on Friday, I swear! : ]

Shov

[hydrocannabis]

that looks so dam bad ass. WTH. she looks great x 100.000.000.

and what size of pot is that.

[Shovelhandle]

The odor of this plant is a lovely sweet piney smell. The plant curing right now smells more like a mild fruity-sweet smell.

Mmmmm good!

Shov

[stinkyattic]

Nice, Shov! Those are really dense looking nuggets. Check PMs. :D

[Shovelhandle]

The pot is quit larger than my 3 gallons but not quite as large as a 5 gallon. The pot has seen it's last crop. the lip is half gone and there are cracks in the middle of it. lol

I also used six gallons and 2 gallons with decent results

Sho

[xcrispi]

The tiedyed B/G looks really sweet Shov.
Do you think the cold temps atributed to this , or a dif. cool pheno ?
Keep up the good work man and Happy Hoildays !
Peace Bro.
Crispi :noel::noel:

[Shovelhandle]

Here's the plant au natural
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Here's the plant with the color buttons diddled.
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Shovelhandle

[Weedhound]

So Shov.....never knew you were a diddler....:D

N-I-C-E buds!! LOVE to get that in my stocking....:thumbsup:

[smokealot123]

nice fat nuggs shovel, your weed looks mint:thumbsup:cant wait till update:jointsmile:youve done an amazing job !

[fUNKYcDOG]

nice pics ^

[cmasfca]

I admire your grow, sir :)

You could diddle my buttons ;)

[MVP]

Has it been snowing inside your grow area? Nice frosty pics ya got there... :thumbsup:

[smokenss]

shov uv done a top job there mate those r gr8 plants :smokin:

[Shovelhandle]

Trimmed the partially dried Z'ghani.
The buds and the trim were both put in paper bags and put back to dry.
[attachment=o171100]

Yes, this plant is also loaded with seed. Ya know, I don't see too well, maybe I need new glasses. :confused:


Shv

[Weedhound]

Shame about the seeds.....(they aren't all female....ARE THEY?) cause that is some BEAUTIFUL looking bud right there. Making me drool.....:thumbsup:

[miley]

Hey Shov. That bud looks great. Bummer about the seeds. Oh well. You'll be good on seeds for awhile. lol. Did you end up with a hermie? Is the xmas grow ending after xmas?

[Shovelhandle]

I dunno, never seen a male flower except for the one male showed the first week of 12-12 and it got tossed asap. I certainly have all fems. They are budding real nice. We'll see tomorrow.

Shov

[cmasfca]

Oh man, I have to wait until tomorrow? :(

[smokenss]

show us today its my birthday plz;)




:smokin:

[Shovelhandle]

Well, Happy Birthday young fella! hehe (ya crazy fuck...lol)

Really nothing so wonderful to see, really. I'll do my bes'

Shovelhandle

[Shovelhandle]

Hello folks.
Here are photos of my six plants an hour ago. There are two Foxy Seed Afghani Dream x Bog Medley, three bagseed refugees crossed with the prementioned Foxy'ghani and one pure Bubblegum.

Here is a little bit of Z'ghani budage. Mmmm sweet.
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Here's the real good 'ghani x BOG cross.
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The Li'l Bubblegum Tree that Could!
The US Dollar bill is a hair over 6".
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Shvl

[Shovelhandle]

The up-load utility flaked out. I'll post again tomorrow. [attachment=o171404]

[cmasfca]

The links aren't working Shov! I want to see them :(

[Shovelhandle]

Here's some Foxy Seeds "ghani Dream x Bog Medley" 'speriment.
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Here's good old bubblegum, though a little wee honestly.
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Shvl

[Shovelhandle]

some Z'ghani plants...I like them pretty good last time, now they have the 'ghani x BOG Medley cross...Hmmm

[attachment=o171413]

Shv

[MVP]

I am liking what I am seeing here... that cross looks pretty interesting.

Nice job Shov!

[JackHerer]

Same like that purple colour in the cross.

[Shovelhandle]

I trimmed a third Z'ghani plant today. Still watering the remaining 2 Zs, 2 Foxy' ghanis, and the bugglegum.

Shvl

[Shovelhandle]

Same like that purple colour in the cross.

Jack, I hadn't seen any hint of purple in the five "Z" plants. Maybe you mean the Foxy Seed Afghani Dream X Bog Medley cross?

Anyway, this morning I was inspecting the remaining five plants and one "Z" has a lot of purple showing on her, more than any of the other plants! The positive power of suggestion, maybe?

I jarred up the second Z plant this am. Less seeds, weighs about an ounce and a quarter. The third Z plant I pulled is trimmed and hanging to dry.

Thanks for your inputs, folks!

Shvl

[MVP]

Be sure to give us a smoke report Shov... BTW, curious on how long do you cure your buds? Everyone one is different but I thought I would ask.

MVP :thumbsup:

[MidknightToker]

what i would like to know is how much bud you get after all this is done

[Weedhound]

I would like to know where the celebration is going to be held.....:D

[the image reaper]

hell ya ! Shov's grow rocks ! . what else could ya expect from an old biker ? :thumbsup: :jointsmile:

[Shovelhandle]

Curing takes 4-6 weeks but the herb seems to get better after that. So, the smoke reports would be down the road a while.

Probably a half pound all trimmed and cured.

WH, I'm still celebrating the last grow!

Thank you ,All.

Shov

[Weedhound]

Well where were all of us while you were celebrating.......?? :D

[Shovelhandle]

I'm in Vermont, US celebrating life each day! I assume each of you are doing the same where ever you are. I'm gonna head down the road to my bro-in-law's to light one up soon. Se you there? LOL

Have a very happy day and please, careful on the roads.

Shvl

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Merry Christmas Shov,

Great grow, you are a great insperation for me to achive similar results.

Thanks and may you have a great New Year.

[Shovelhandle]

Thanks, Season's Grootings to y'all too!

Today I jarred the third Z plant and put the 4th into darkness ready to dry in a couple of days. So far the first three plants dried out to 1 - 1¼ oz each. I checked the bubblegum and it's just starting to show a couple few amber trics. The other two 'ghanis are still putting out fresh bud, slow but steady. We are now in the 11th week of flowering!

Sho

[hydrocannabis]

yah UR buds look killer. SH.

[miley]

Merry Christmas Shov. You'll have to give me a smoke report on that bubble gum once its done curing.

[Shovelhandle]

Well today I put the last (5th) Z into it's 36 hour pre-harvest darkness and hung the 4th Z out to dry. I think the two Foxy Seeds afghani hybrids and the Bubblegum will be harvested within the next week, which will be 12 weeks of bloom cycle (more than the advertised eight weeks). They are starting to show amber a little bit.

I will be curious if the Bubblegum has seeds like the Z plants have. This would be an interesting hybrid as the BBG is not a hybrid and has been growing here for years.

The initial smoke report on the first Z plant (which was the smallest) is very positive. Brother pretty much loved it, and he's a fussy pot connisseur! It really does need to finish curing, though I thought that it is pretty potent herb. I think that I will start smoking on it and put the little bit of 'ghani I have left from last spring/summer grow away for a bit. I have about 5-6 joints worth left.

Thanks,

Shvl

[Shovelhandle]

11 weeks, a long blossom time, huh?
Well, I have all the Z plants drying or curing and I think I'll shut down the lights on the Bubblegum and the two afghani x bog plants this weekend. There are a few amber trics, still some clear trics but mostly cloudy ones. Some afghani buds are still putting out pistils though...what do you all think? Harvest or wait another week (12 weeks)?

Bubblebum
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Afghani bud
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Thanks,

Shvlhndl

[Weedhound]

Shov,

Send me that plant immediately and I'll let you know after I've smoked it :D

[foodsy]

Shov,

Send me that plant immediately and I'll let you know after I've smoked it :D

This. I wouldn't mind having a bit of ganja, been a few months since I've had any extra money for it :( I will hopefully have some soon though :jointsmile:

Great grow!

[Shovelhandle]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
Shov,

Send me that plant immediately and I'll let you know after I've smoked it


WH, I think the best thing would be for us to spit the difference. yah, I'll harvest next week and just smoke it here when it's cured.

Thank you!

Sho

[Shovelhandle]

Hey Foodsy! I have a few friends in Wisc. But they don't smoke anymore, drat!

Shovelhandle

[Weedhound]

DRAT???? I haven't heard that word in YEARS.......!! :D

[Shovelhandle]

I pulled the buds from the stalks and put into a paper bag to finish Very nice purps!

I'm gonna sign off as I'm listening to Bob Marley Live at the Rainbow and I and I inspired to smoke a spliff and enjoy Jah music, mon.

Irie

Sho

[Shovelhandle]

The (2) afghani and the Bubblegum are picked and drying. Some trics are still clear, but after almost 12 weeks of flowering....wtf.
It should be pretty good. Here are some of the Z'ghani buds that have been curing. Each photo is one of the plants and weighs a little over an ounce. I have three others curing. Two of these are nearly two ounces. Taste test is positive, nice smooth smoke and great stoney high.

[attachment=o172882] [attachment=o172883]

SHVO

[Weedhound]

You sure you don't have a light leak around somewhere???

[Shovelhandle]

I'm sure, it's dark as a dungeon. This is my third grow there too, though the temperature ranges were lower than ever this time until I corrected it.

Thank you,

Sho

[Atkeni]

Maybe your growroom has a ghost that is stressing them :wtf:

glad they pass the quality test :)

[Shovelhandle]

Here are the final three plants dried, trimmed and canned.

Bubblegum doesn't seem to have ANY seeds. I forgot to weigh this but it's just short of an ounce.
[attachment=o173304]

One of the Foxyseeds Afghani x BOG from seeds I grew out last grow.
Yes, it is very purple.
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Another Foxyseeds Afghani x BOG but not purple.
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All Put Up. Total, well over eight ounces.
[attachment=o173307]

[Shovelhandle]

Oh ya, the Bubblegum looks fuzzy, it is actually super-frosted!

I'll update with better photos and smoke report when it's cured.

Shov

[Balkey]

I see you have the microscope I just picked up. I can't seem to keep my hand steady enough! Seems to be more useful in viewing individual trichs than a cluster hahaha. Maybe a little too powerful, BUT still fun to use!!!:stoned::stoned:

Nice stuff you got there!!! Good job!

[Shovelhandle]

Balkey,
Try putting some little leaves, calaxes or bugs, etc on a table and practice working with it (buy some batteries : ] )

Thanks,

Shvl

[Farmer Rich]

Shov,

What power is your microscope and are you able to examine the flowers with it while growing? I stopped by the local hydro shop last week looking at one and was skeptical that it would be useful for me. I also wear reading glasses, which kinda makes looking at detail a bitch anyway.

Man, very nice grow! Enjoy the crop!!

:thumbsup: Farmer Rich

[JackHerer]

Try putting some little leaves, calaxes or bugs, etc on a table

Thats what I do as well since the shakes is way to much to freehand check out a plant. When I got the scope someone else here ad posted about trimming off small leaves from top, middle & bottom of the plant then check them on a convenient flat surface.

Lovely buds there Shov, on the hunt for some nice colourful plants I can do myself.

[Shovelhandle]

Thanks Rich,
I have to clip tiny pieces of the bud off and view them on a table. I wear glasses and have to take them off to use the scope, it's a bitch.
The little microscopes are $14 or so in Radio Shack and are adjustable from 60X to 100X.

Irie

Shovl

[Shovelhandle]

Just like Jack does. : )
Thanks, Jack.

Shvl

[Shovelhandle]

I packed up my bowl and took a hit. Smoke is mild and smooth. No expansion or choking.

Look at the picture (please enlarge). Lots of frosting!
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I took two more hits, now I will wait for a bit.

The afghani-bog trial
The afghani x bog I tried yesterday was great! I smoked up a bowl around 10 am, did a bunch of chores, shopping, went swimming laps for an hour and was still WRECKED at 2:00 pm, I shit you not. Not the most couchloak, dibilitating high, but a strong head buzz that really hangs in there.

I expect that the Foxy version is even better, though the yield and bud size was slightly less/smaller.

And even better yet, I expect this bubblegum to be a winner.

I'll report on this bubblegum and the foxy-afghan x bog another time.

Thank you, I'm buzzed <G>

Shov

[smokenss]

that bud looks very nice :thumbsup:(is that a couple of seeds in the top right corner?)



:smokin:ss

[miley]

That bud looks awesome Shov. Keep up the good work.

[Shovelhandle]

yes, smokenss. I was pleased to see a few beautiful seeds in the Bubblegum buds. Only one plant in the grow had a million seeds, the others have two or three seeds per bud, or less. I understand that these seeds are likely feminized as the therory is that there must have been a hermie in the grow (that I never noticed). The bubblegum crossed with the afghani will likely produce very nice plants sometime.

As far as the taste test...I got called to work by a client, which was a real buzz kill. Smoked some with my bro last evening and we thought that it was real good ; )

Thanks,

Sho

[Shovelhandle]

Just about three Ozs of Foxy's Afghani Dream x Bog Medley, which I self pollinated last grow for seeds.

Smoke testers say... Very excellent buzz, wicked long lasting too.. One plant was purp one wasn't. This grow I crosses the afghanis with the Bubblegum. I think that should produce an outstanding smoke,


[ATTACH]

Your pal, Shovelhandle

[cmasfca]

Props to you sir, that is an amazing looking yield :thumbsup: :)

[Weedhound]

Beautiful......that purple almost looks to pretty to smoke.....ALMOST. ;) :thumbsup:

[zebulon]

Awesome looking plants and a really great color...nice work Shov....:thumbsup:

[Sauce]

it appears to me you had a great x-mas huh lol, that afghani and bubble gum both look dank

[miley]

That purple bud is freaking awesome. How the hell did you get it that color Shov? I cant say that I've ever seen purple bud. I've seen purple leaves on plants but not buds.

[Shovelhandle]

Hi Miley,
They purple color seems to be a trait passed on to some phenos of the afghani from my bag seed grow and the Foxyseed Afghani hybrid. It's funny, half will have the purple leaves and later on purple buds, other plants will be nice and "green-tan".

Bubblegum may turn purple outdoors from the autumn cold but I've not had any purple from the indoor plants.
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Although I've kept each plant's harvest separate it takes a lot of smoking for me to report on the quality, since it's ALL GOOD! <G>

Shov

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Beautiful looking buds Shov. I have never seen purple like that before, now cross that with some Blueberry we may be on to something:)

[Ganj]

sweet grow-log, shovelmaster...i'll try to remind myself of it when i am able to grow a plant or ten, then again this thing will have already been lost in the enormous server of cannabis.com, so that's all!-it's all i have to say to you, my good sir. so carry along now. smoke your good bud and laugh and sing and be joyous all around! this log is complete. that is a fact. spelled out for you. THERE IS another fact you may not be cognizant upon the completion of your first log and that is of the many logs to come by you in the future. FACT. you are beginning another project, correct? what more is there to see by shovelmaster, eh? as the crowd slowly reels you in...you had things worked out from the beginning, saying things like "they're gonna love me," and "watch how they suckle and drool at images of my superb grow." what kind of sadistic, pot-smoking illusions are you pulling on us, shovelmaster?

[cmasfca]

sweet grow-log, shovelmaster...i'll try to remind myself of it when i am able to grow a plant or ten, then again this thing will have already been lost in the enormous server of cannabis.com, so that's all!-it's all i have to say to you, my good sir. so carry along now. smoke your good bud and laugh and sing and be joyous all around! this log is complete. that is a fact. spelled out for you. THERE IS another fact you may not be cognizant upon the completion of your first log and that is of the many logs to come by you in the future. FACT. you are beginning another project, correct? what more is there to see by shovelmaster, eh? as the crowd slowly reels you in...you had things worked out from the beginning, saying things like "they're gonna love me," and "watch how they suckle and drool at images of my superb grow." what kind of sadistic, pot-smoking illusions are you pulling on us, shovelmaster?

Pass that shit! :jointsmile:

[Shovelhandle]

glad you like my third grow log here.
I been laid up in hospital last week with total shoulder replacement. My next grow may not start for a couple of months so I have time to think on it. I really like all three varieties of the last grow, so I don't know...

I did make a ball of hashish from some of the trim of that last grow. Nice, strong and expanding. Though I think it was only a couple of grams. Still have most of it. can't photo right now, tooo sick.

Have a great day.

Sho

[stinkyattic]

Best wishes for a quick recovery!
I'll bet you are going to have a GREAT grow this spring with all the time to plan it. The last one is just... STUNNING.

[Shovelhandle]

thanks for the props and well wishes. what do you think of the two foxy seed second gen (here) plants? one light colored, one purple? I'm sure the quality will be top shelf, as it was last grow. thanks

sho

[stinkyattic]

I think they look delicious. That purple bud is just stunning. You didn't happen to save any cuttings of her did ya?
I am happy to see how well they performed in Northern New England. Those 'ghanis are sure hardy!

[yiGity]

oooo eeee damn those purpz are loookin mighty tasty... btw what does "drat" mean?

[Shovelhandle]

Afghani Dream x BOG Medley which I grew from back-crossed seeds.

I grew out two of these plants and side by side they grew identically. ...until they were in flower and showed color.

Here is one of the young plant which produced more of a green/gold colored bud
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Young green budded plant.

Dried green/gold colored bud
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Sho

[Shovelhandle]

Foxy Seed plants that I grew out, inbred and from those seeds I grew these "foxy seed" plants. (If you are confused, try being me!):stoned:

Here is the second plant that will produce purplish leaves and buds.
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Here's a purplish young plant.
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And here are the young purple buds.
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And the dried buds. Nice mild pull and tastes smooth.
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I hope you enjoy these couple of pics. The herb is very nice.
The gold bud is all smoked but the purple jar is full. <G>

Sho

[Shovelhandle]

Nope, just some seeds of each color variety. : )

Sho

[ProGroWannabe]

Shov, I'm really sorry to hear of your shoulder replacement. Major joint work is a horrible thing to endure. I missed most of your christmas grow unfortunately, but due to your regular updates, I was able to catch up upon my return to canna.com.

Has recovery been kind, or are you still in the process of recovering shov?

[Shovelhandle]

Thanks, PGW
My shoulder feels fine, though I'm not supposed to do anything with it yet. I do passive range of motion exercises. This week I start pool therapy, which is wonderful as wife and I practically swim every day.

Hey, Stinkyattic,
Did you see the photos of the two Foxy Seed plants posted on this thread on 3/3/08 ? Did that answer your question on the color of the plants and the dried bud? Also, no clones, just some seed. I'll probably try to grow some out someday.

Sho

[ProGroWannabe]

Shov....it's good that you have such a love of swimming. That may be the very best thing for joint issues.

Also, it's nice to see that you are working the BOG genetics. I still see BOG seeds listed in a couple of places, but obviously they're always out of stock. I think I came into the internet growing scene too late to get in on BOG gear. Any rumors of BOG coming out oof retirement?

[SnSstealth]

just found this shov...and DAMN man...good on ya!grow any of the seeds from the purplish girl? very beautiful plant man...
whiskeytango

[Shovelhandle]

just found this shov...and DAMN man...good on ya!grow any of the seeds from the purplish girl? very beautiful plant man...
whiskeytango


uhhhh, that was some time ago. lol I planted all those seeds from that grow. They are outdoors and in three states. I'll likely never get back to most of them. Some are in hospital parking lots, peoples back yards, etc. All only known to me (and some to my wife). I do have a bunch of the seeds (not feminized) from the previous grow that the purple Foxy phenom came from though. Someday, maybe. I have a few seeds (feminized) from the purple pheno Bubblegum hybrid. That is some great weed!

[SnSstealth]

I knew it was old...just giving you props on a HELLA grow...belated of course....lol
whiskeytango