Bulster
08-17-2007, 07:18 AM
Not quite a week ago I got some clones that were rooted in rockwool. 2 Sour Diesel and 2 MK Ultra. Also have an unknown very small clone, so 5 total. All plants have received same treatment so I will cover them all for comparison purposes.
- CLones were all 3 to 4.75 inches tall, except for the unknown which is only 1 inch.
- Planted in SuperSoil with 25% perilite, says on the bag the soil is sterile and contains NPK as 0.14-0.08-0.03 with a PH of 6-6.5 but no mention of trace minerals.
- Watered with RO water at roughly 6.25 PH and 1/3 of recommended nutes with trace added. Also added some Epsom and some diluted dolomite lime. Then I got burned tips on new growth and have stopped all adding other than a little H2O2 and some Epsom.
- At first I watered too much per watering causing the water to seep down to the bottom where the roots still cannot reach it while the plants would dry out (hey, I'm a beginner). I'm now watering them more often but very little at a time. My pots are still heavy from the water down low though.
- Lighting is one 100W CFL (~6500 usable lumens) roughly 3 inches from closest plant running 24/7.
- I'm training all of them gently, hence the odd angled stems.
- Weather has been hot and my shed is not air conditioned, occasionally over 95 degrees. Humidity is typically low here also. I can't afford to insulate and buy an AC and humidifier so just waiting for weather to cool.
- clones came with Spider Mites which I detected right away and using neem oil to combat but damage was already done to older leaves.
The Sour Diesel in particular looks bad with very very little growth so far. The little bit of new growth I have gotten does look much better than the existing older leaves but are curling under and some are twisting a bit, and again - they are barely growing.
The older leaves are in much worse shape, droopy and very pale. On some of them the paleness is far more towards the stem getting greener towards the tip. But again, overall droopy and pale and generally weak and I'm not sure which way it's going at this point.
The MK is doing a little bit better in terms of overall looks and vitality but also is not really growing much, but at least not looking like it's dying. The little bit of new growth does look relatively good except for the little nute burns on the tips.
The unknown one also isn't growing and now has the burned tips too.
So, can I pull out of this by just continuing to feed nothing but water in very limited amounts? Or do I need to flush? I hate the idea of flushing because with the plants so small my soil will then be wet for a loooong time and I worry about what that will do. I just don't know if particularly the Sour Diesel's will pull through.
Also, what kind of growth should I expect? I thought these things would take off pretty quickly but eeehhh, not so much.:mad:
It's been hard to find an exact 'recipe' for newly planted clones, maybe I'm just completely f'ing this up despite all my reading. I looked at the big deficiency guide but it's so damn hard, looks to me like I got a little bit of every problem in there! :wtf:
please see attached pics, the file names should explain what you're looking at. These are Hi-Res so you can zoom all you want.
Thanks in advance,
Bulster.
- CLones were all 3 to 4.75 inches tall, except for the unknown which is only 1 inch.
- Planted in SuperSoil with 25% perilite, says on the bag the soil is sterile and contains NPK as 0.14-0.08-0.03 with a PH of 6-6.5 but no mention of trace minerals.
- Watered with RO water at roughly 6.25 PH and 1/3 of recommended nutes with trace added. Also added some Epsom and some diluted dolomite lime. Then I got burned tips on new growth and have stopped all adding other than a little H2O2 and some Epsom.
- At first I watered too much per watering causing the water to seep down to the bottom where the roots still cannot reach it while the plants would dry out (hey, I'm a beginner). I'm now watering them more often but very little at a time. My pots are still heavy from the water down low though.
- Lighting is one 100W CFL (~6500 usable lumens) roughly 3 inches from closest plant running 24/7.
- I'm training all of them gently, hence the odd angled stems.
- Weather has been hot and my shed is not air conditioned, occasionally over 95 degrees. Humidity is typically low here also. I can't afford to insulate and buy an AC and humidifier so just waiting for weather to cool.
- clones came with Spider Mites which I detected right away and using neem oil to combat but damage was already done to older leaves.
The Sour Diesel in particular looks bad with very very little growth so far. The little bit of new growth I have gotten does look much better than the existing older leaves but are curling under and some are twisting a bit, and again - they are barely growing.
The older leaves are in much worse shape, droopy and very pale. On some of them the paleness is far more towards the stem getting greener towards the tip. But again, overall droopy and pale and generally weak and I'm not sure which way it's going at this point.
The MK is doing a little bit better in terms of overall looks and vitality but also is not really growing much, but at least not looking like it's dying. The little bit of new growth does look relatively good except for the little nute burns on the tips.
The unknown one also isn't growing and now has the burned tips too.
So, can I pull out of this by just continuing to feed nothing but water in very limited amounts? Or do I need to flush? I hate the idea of flushing because with the plants so small my soil will then be wet for a loooong time and I worry about what that will do. I just don't know if particularly the Sour Diesel's will pull through.
Also, what kind of growth should I expect? I thought these things would take off pretty quickly but eeehhh, not so much.:mad:
It's been hard to find an exact 'recipe' for newly planted clones, maybe I'm just completely f'ing this up despite all my reading. I looked at the big deficiency guide but it's so damn hard, looks to me like I got a little bit of every problem in there! :wtf:
please see attached pics, the file names should explain what you're looking at. These are Hi-Res so you can zoom all you want.
Thanks in advance,
Bulster.