I'm trying to defy the odds...but

[guyfromchi2004]

My friend found some really good "dro" there was a couple of seeds in it,she decided to throw them in some dirt,a week later she was amazed because they started to grow,She gave me 3 plants,one died.I grew hydro before and I noticed a very fast growth rate compared to soil,I took the plants out of the dirt and I transplanted them to my bubbler,in the meantime I sprouted 7 other seeds that I had.Now I have nine plants in a 3 gallon bubbler(the plants that she gave me are about 4 weeks,my sprouted 7 are about 2 and a half weeks old).Right now they are under a warm 42 watt florescent that put out at about 150 and then there is another bulb which is a 15 watt flouro,They are under these light just until they get a little older and I have the 400 watt MH waiting for them alsp for flowering,I have a 360 watt HPS conversion bulb.My Ph is sitting at around5.5 to 6.0.right now it's 5.5.The TDS is sitting at 500,I have hard water coming into my house,it starts at around 350.I added 150food to bring my TDS up to about 520.Today I checked and it was floating between 490 and 500.One thing is odd that I noticed,I have an oakton ph meter I had it since last year,when I test the bubbler bucket,the measurment fluctuates badly,but when I test the ph in the ph meter cap I get an accurate reading.By my mearsurment my plants should be thriving but they are not ,they seem to be sick,could anyone give me a clue to what is going on.The ph is at 5.5 and the tds at 500.Also I am too broke to buy a RO machine and I ca't go to the store all the time buying distilled water,I let my water sit out for 24-t48 hours before use.Someone give me a clue please.I would love to taste that good ole taste of fresh homegrown herb again.TY:thumbsup:

[palerider7777]

maybe to much nutes right now?? i didn't go up to 500 ppm until the 4th week those look to young for all the nutes but i may be wrong.i would think u should add more ph'd water to bring down the nutes.

[Weedhound]

didn't we do this already??? :wtf:

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/129719-i-thought-i-doing-everything-right.html

[guyfromchi2004]

I posted it here 1st weedhound,I wasn't getting an answer so I asked again in the disease and sickness board.TY weedhound,I went and finally got ro water

[Weedhound]

Ok.....excellent. What nutes are you using? Get your CalMag, your RO water and your grow nutes together.....I personally would put my ppms at about 300 since you are starting with water at about 20. I use 150ppm CalMag and `150ppm 1 part grow nutes.

You have plants of different ages together so you'll have to be very careful about overnute/undernute. I'm honestly not sure if you can grow good plants of different ages together in hydro but IF I were going to try it I would use the 300ppms to start. You said you've been keeping your ph between 5.5 and 5.8....excellent....keep doing that. Hope this works for you but realize that you are WAY playing defense here. Good luck.

[guyfromchi2004]

I'm using hydrofarm "grow nutrients" it's about a year old.Calmag?Can I use a little bit of epsons salt?

[Weedhound]

Here's a really good link. I'm not sure what to use because I've always had CalMag but hopefully you can find out whether epsom salts is ok to use here.

International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - The Complete guide to Sick Plants,pH, and Pest troubles! (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688)

[guyfromchi2004]

weedhound,I took your advice because it did make a lot of sense.I went and got the cal-mag from the local grow store,20 bucks for a quart!Anyway I started fresh because after getting the R/O water,I didn't realize I needed a suppliment,I thought I was getting adequate micro-nutrients from my veg food,the guy atthe growshop along with weedhound says that if you are using R/O water it is best to suppliment it with "Cal-mag.The R/o water out of the jug is 5.7 10ppm I added 150ppm of Cal-mag and 150ppm of "hydrofarm grow nutrient for hydroponics" for a grand total of 310 ppm.I cross my fingers ,I will keep you'll updated,Also today I clipped off the dead growth and I am starting to tie them over,and cut on my MH bulb,I wanted to wait until they got healthy.These pics are from today before I clipped the leaves

[guyfromchi2004]

tweaking the settings on this camera so that the pic is clear

[Weedhound]

sounds good. :thumbsup: Also sounds like your hydro man is on the ball (so many of them aren't) so he'd be a good source of info for you as well in the future. Just remember......you aren't growing mj.......you're growing tomatos. ;)

I'd watch them from there, keep a close eye on your ph and see what they do. I've added a subscription to this thread so I'll be back when you update. :)


BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHA......wh. :D

[guyfromchi2004]

My plants are starting to look worse,what's going on?These plants look so life-less and dull

[guyfromchi2004]

I just took my morning measurements,my ph is 5.5 my tds is at 290,which means they are eating right?2 days ago I added 150ppm of cal-mag and 150 ppm of veg food,which brought me to a total of 310 ppm,am I underfeeding or over feeding?This is so frustrating because the other times I grew "dro",I knew less but the plants were happy,theses plants seems extremely sad in optimal conditions.:wtf:

[palerider7777]

Ok.....excellent. What nutes are you using? Get your CalMag, your RO water and your grow nutes together.....I personally would put my ppms at about 300 since you are starting with water at about 20. I use 150ppm CalMag and `150ppm 1 part grow nutes.

You have plants of different ages together so you'll have to be very careful about overnute/undernute. I'm honestly not sure if you can grow good plants of different ages together in hydro but IF I were going to try it I would use the 300ppms to start. You said you've been keeping your ph between 5.5 and 5.8....excellent....keep doing that. Hope this works for you but realize that you are WAY playing defense here. Good luck.

http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/130479-4-ft-tall-bending-them-isnt-helping-lol.html#post1610524 my grow is of 2 differnt ages about 3 weeks apart and there all doing great infact the younger ones are just about as big as the older ones so i know it works

[palerider7777]

I just took my morning measurements,my ph is 5.5 my tds is at 290,which means they are eating right?2 days ago I added 150ppm of cal-mag and 150 ppm of veg food,which brought me to a total of 310 ppm,am I underfeeding or over feeding?This is so frustrating because the other times I grew "dro",I knew less but the plants were happy,theses plants seems extremely sad in optimal conditions.:wtf:

i think with there age they don't need much, but i had mine at around 400 at 3 weeks i kept them at 300 till 3 weeks but if u add to much to soon u will burn then and it takes awhile for them to bounce back my tap/well water is 25 ppmi think the nutes say 1/4 tsp per gal is that what u used??well really iv'e read abunch of diffrent stuff on here from people like stinky, and abunch of others, and they all say diffrent stuff, but all the same if thats understandable lol. sum say to much sum say not enough, and most of what iv'e read is'nt exact.

as iv'e read everywhere to start seedlings either the papertowel or vial with water method, and to keep in a dark place. i started all my seeds in peatmoss plugs in a dome under 2 big cfls and got 100% sprouts in 3 to4 days. so it's not an exact science more of know the basics and trial&error comes into play.although iv'e also read that u don't give nutes only ph'd water for the first week or till they have a good root system showing. i started all mine under the dome and with 1/4 nutes.not to say iv'e never messed up about 2 weeks ago i changed my nutes, but not all the way i really topped the res's off and i forgot about the nutes and ph i had in there and i added the reg 15ml of ph down to 1 res, and within 3 or 4 mins my plants on that res all wilted up, so i checked the res and saw the ph was 2.8 so i rushed and brought it back up to 5.8, and they recovered but just lil stuff like that makes u remember for next time what to and not to do.

some say u have to have 100% dark some say 87% im at about 95%, as sum real dim light is leaking out of the air vent but still dark to where i can't see my hand or anything but looks more like and moon overcast or something. and there budding up real nice so it's a constant learning exp!!!! but iv'e noticed it makes me feel like the first time i started prospecting for gold, and found my first gold nugget, u get hooked and it becomes apart of ur life. as it's a feeling u get that u just know it will be with u the rest of ur life, and u won't get tired of it. it's hard to explain but they say in geology, prospecting,once u get bit by the gold bug ur hooked for life. i take that as a good meaning in life too as once u find that thing u love, u love it for life and i have been bit by the green bug now so now i have 2 loves lol.

[palerider7777]

My plants are starting to look worse,what's going on?These plants look so life-less and dull

did u cut the bottem leafs off and if so why?? oh my bad those are clones aren't they?lol

[Weedhound]

This IS frustrating. when you knew less what did you do that worked? You've got everything exactly the way you should as far as your nutes, ph, and water. How often are you checking your ph btw?

Can you tell me what your room temps and room humidity is? The last thing I can think of is how warm is the water your plants are in?

If you put in at 310 and its now 290 then yes, they are eating. How often are you having to add water? And when you do are you adding 300ppm water or plain water?

Next set of questions....what kind of lighting and how close is it to your plants?

There is something here that is missing.....but I can't figure out what it is. Any info you have helps....even if you think it's not useful.

[Help_Needed]

I'm not anything close to an expert...I'm on my first hydro grow, but I'll still throw in my 2 cents lol.

First, if I understand correctly, you've got 9 plants in a 3 gallon bubbler? I've got 6 plants in a 13 gallon DWC system and I've had people tell my that my res is too small for that many plants. Maybe they're too crowded in there? Not sure on this tho. It's just a thought.

Second, if these are in full veg, 300ppm is probably too low. I've got mine running at 600ppm using the Lucas Formula and the plants are loving it. Also, check your res temps. Even if your pH is right, if the res temps are too hot, the plants can't eat. Same with room temps.

Last you've definitely got a nute imbalance somewhere in there. I'm not good enough to tell you exactly what, but if you post in the sick plant forum, there's a guy named Ganja Guerrilla who's really good at figuring out what nutes you're missing, just by looking at your pics.

P.S. The Lucas Formula is a really simply nute program designed specifically for weed. I switched to it in my second week of growth and I'm really glad I did so.

[guyfromchi2004]

Ok when I didn't know better,I used tap water (350ppm)coming out of the tap,I always had my 2 meters (ph and tds)5.0 to 6.0,used the same food,One thing I noticed(with this grow)is when I checked the ph in the bucket,it fluctuated badly.When I took a sample of the res water that's when I got an accurate reading.Now it's different since I have switched to ro water with the cal-mag.Now I am able to take accurate readings straight from the res.My 400 watt MH is about 10 in away from the top of the tallest plant.I know that you said that the different ages concerned you but a couple of the "newest" plants are bigger than the "old" ones.The mix that I have going on now was changed 2 days ago because I didn't know about cal-mag,So I decided to start over fresh.So I haven't added any water yet,When I decide to add water it will be ph'ed ro water without cal-mag.My room that I use does not have fresh air,So I keep the door opened a lot.It's about 85 to 90 degrees in here with the door closed for 10 hrs.3 fans blowing at all times.The only difference between this grow and the last one is (1) The Water (2)the different age of the plants.2 plants are about 3 weeks older than their 7 sisters but you couldn't tell by looking at a couple of them.I will post a pic with the plants numbered and maybe that'll help us out more.Thank God for the internet.And thank you guys for taking the time to help me figure out this problem

[Weedhound]

If your room temps are 85-90 then the water must be pretty warm too and I think that may be your problem. Plants do not grow very well in temps over 80 degrees (slows down photosynthesis greatly) and if the water is too warm for your roots they won't do well either.

I thought about telling you to increase nutes but I personally would not.....I don't think that's your problem at all. When in doubt....always use less nutes which may not be great but won't kill them as opposed to too many nutes which can kill them pretty quick. They just don't look like a nute def.....I swear it looks like a ph lockout so maybe help needed has a good point going there about water temps and ph.

10 inches is usually ok for your light but just because you have sick plants you might pull it back from them a foot just to reduce stress and because your room is pretty hot itself.

[guyfromchi2004]

I just checked the ph and the tds we are sitting at 280 and 5.5

[guyfromchi2004]

my ph lockout should be fixed right?Since I swithched to the ro water,I let it go from 5.5 to 5.9.How can I fix ph lockout and how long will it take before the plants recover,should I clip off the dying leaves?

[Weedhound]

Ok..then the next res change I would take things to 400.....200calmag and 200grow nutes...in the next day or two. I think you're going to have to work on the room and water temps somehow.....not sure what your setup is so can't help you with that part.

[Weedhound]

That's the part that's weird....your ph is perfect....couldn't be more on the dot. Do you think they have improved at all or do they look worse? How about from yesterday to today...better, same, worse?

[palerider7777]

[quote=Help_Needed]I'm not anything close to an expert...I'm on my first hydro grow, but I'll still throw in my 2 cents lol.

First, if I understand correctly, you've got 9 plants in a 3 gallon bubbler? I've got 6 plants in a 13 gallon DWC system and I've had people tell my that my res is too small for that many plants. Maybe they're too crowded in there? Not sure on this tho. It's just a thought.

i doubt thats a prob now maybe later but there to lil for the res to be to lil now maybe when they get bigger it will get cramped but not now they don't have enough roots yet for that to be a prob

[guyfromchi2004]

These are from seed,i'm trying to rule the boys out and then everybody will get some space,I am a little worried about ventilation because it gets kinda hot in here,I have a window next to the light from which I can ventilation but I covered up the window with (3)3 mil bags and and couple of blankets so there isn't any air getting in or going out.Right now I don't have light leaks but if I use that window for a vent won't there be light leaks?

[Weedhound]

Well you're going to have to get fresh air in there to them somehow....especially with the heat in the room. I'm terrible at venting and air flow blah blah so can't help you there but hopefully someone else can.

Once you pick out the males....are you going to remove them or? Won't all the roots from the plants be grown together by then? Perhaps you have another idea for them?

[guyfromchi2004]

I will not veg them for long .3 weeks after determining the males.I will put 2 in a 5 gallon bucket,so if I had 4 females I would use (2) 5 gallon buckets

[Weedhound]

That sounds good....IF we can get you to that point and IF we can keep the different plants roots from growing together. Keep working on your ventilation and heat issues....I'm sure that's your biggest problem right now.

i'll be back....:)

[guyfromchi2004]

Ok,first of all.I apologize for giving out misinformation.I took a reading about 30 min ago.The tds floating between 270 and 280...That sounds about right.So when I checked the ph it was 5.5 as normal,then I decided to leave the meter in the solution for about 45 seconds,35 more seconds than usual.I normally let it sit in the solution for about 10 seconds...That's where I was wrong!as the ph sat at 5.5 after about 20 seconds it starting dropping all the way down to 4.7,Could this had been my problem?I had to think quick so I went into the bathroom and I got about 64 oz of water (out of the tap today...390!)I added it in my res,right now I am sure that my ph is at 5.7 and the ppm in the res is 290.I didn't add cal-mag nor food.

[Weedhound]

You do NOT know how that makes me feel.

I GOT IT RIGHT!!!!!!!!! Beer on me!! :D You'll need to check if often until it stablizes.....still work on your heat issues....ph is the key though.....your plants simply will not grow well in hydro unless the ph is correct.

Dude, that was KILLING ME!!! Glad you worked it out. :)

[Weedhound]

Ok....just reread...you'll need to change your rez in the next day or two....reg tap water plus CalMag is too much minerals etc.....

In a pinch you can use SMALL amounts of baking soda to raise ph and distilled white vinegar to lower it. Check the ph carefully and often.

[palerider7777]

i see u have a fan on ur ballest i do that too i would suggest getting an inline or cage fan with sum 4inch duct and setup in the room so to pump old stale air out and help get sum air in there

[guyfromchi2004]

palerider,I don't have a problem getting an inline cage fan,that is a terrific idea,but how will I do it without a light leak,outside that window is the outside and you could probalby see that bright light from across the street.So is there something I can buy to allow me to vent out and still be lightproof...Or is that an oxymoron?

[bongerstonerd00d]

Bend the duct, light doesnt go around corners very well.



b0nger

[guyfromchi2004]

Now that makes a lot of sense,that my project for tomorrow
I really need that ventilation

[guyfromchi2004]

I guess do you learn something new everyday.I knew I needed ventilation but I didn't want to sacrifice being "Light proof".I thought the light would've traveled straight through the duct,if you bend it at the right angel the light really has to fight to be visible.Yesterday after adding the 64oz of tap water to my 3 1/2 gallon rez,I noticed that some of my leaves were curling,I thought to myself,"that can't be good"I took weedhound's advice and changed the solution today.Current stats:5.5 (im positive!) I also added 150ppm of cal-mag and 290 ppm veg food,a total of 440.I really apprieciate all the time and help you guys are putting in,just so that I can enjoy some fresh homegrown buds.Thanks all

[guyfromchi2004]

I really notice the difference between good air and stale air.This is just a small fan pushing the air out..that's true.I do notice the difference in temp.tomorrow,I will go and get a squirrel cage fan

[palerider7777]

well i ment duct it to another room and keep the window sealed up or cut a hole in the wall and duct it to another room and if u can't do that cut a 4 inch hole in the ceiling and let it blow into the attic.i don't like messing with windows or anything that people would look at and say whats that for?u know what i mean.are u in an apt or house? and in the house or apt where is the room at is it close to the washer/dryer area?

p.s cause the way u have it set up there when they get older u will need a air filter as u are blowing all the tomato smell out the window and u know what that does lol

[guyfromchi2004]

that really,is the only place that I can vent but I rigged it to where you if you were trying to look inside all you would see is darkness,I am very proud to announce that today was the first day I woke up and the plants were actually not looking sick,thanks to all you'll.I am learning so much from this grow because of all of the errors I encountered.Thanks all.After this grow I think I will be ready to hand out some advice.I learn one very important thing...Make Sure The PH is what it says it is.It's almost like your plants can talk to you without vocalizing...if you pay close enough attention.Thanks all current stats 410ppm 5.3


PS When can I start flowering to weed out the males?

[Cyclonite]

They look hungry to me.....I would take the PPMs up around 700 and see how they respond.

8mlGrow-8mlMicro-8mlBloom per gallon....for flower try 4ml-8ml-16ml

[guyfromchi2004]

By the looks of my plants,they are doing 100 x better,so I guess ph is VERY important.For now on..I check my ph at least 4 times a day.They seem to be hungry little creatures.2 days ago I added 150ppm cal-mag,290ppm veg food,10ppm of baking soda(ph was at 4.8)which brought me to a total of 450ppm,today when I checked the res it was sitting at 380ppm so they eat fast and they eat a lot...As for the question about having 9 plants in a 3 gal bucket, I'm not that good in cloning and one time I remember just growing one plant,Man that plant got huge,I let it veg for almost 2 months(it was a beast)it was about 3 ft high and about 5 feet across,everytime I looked at it,my mouth would water because I thought I was going to get about 2 to 3 pounds off of that plant,enough for me to never have to depend on a shady character on the street again.So one day I decided to do the flower thing,then it happened!It was a boy!So now I am taking a different approach.Everytime I check for the ph and tds I untangle the roots (which isn't a very hard job)I will start flowering soon to weed out the males,then I will go back into veg.Can I start now (flowering to determine males?)...Since changing the res 2 days ago,I have added 1 drop of ph down...when I did my morning test I was sitting at 4.6 and 370ppm,I added a pinch of baking soda,now I am sitting at 380ppm 5.6

[Weedhound]

They do look much better....good. If they are knocking the ppms down that fast then Cyclonite is right and its time to up their chow.

I was taught by my hydro man to use 50/50 CalMag and grow nutes up until you turn them to 12/12. So if you put them on 600....300 would be CalMag and 300 grow nutes. I'd try the six hundred and see how they do.

They look much better but I'd probably give them a week to recover from all the excitement and get a little more nutrition under their belts before you turn them.

[guyfromchi2004]

These plants are fantastic!It seems like when growing,there is always "something" else to buy.I have an oakton ph meter.I got it last year,I didn't replace the probe yet,and I am getting funky readings.When I test my water,it will say (ie...)5.8 and then after a couple of seconds it will flip to 2.5 and then it will alternater between 5.8 and 2.5.I am thinking that I may need to replace the probe....50.00!Have anyone else had this problem?This ro water seems to acidify the longer it sits.My plants are incredibly hungry and thirsty creatures.I added about 2 gallons of ro water since changing the res last week...bought my ppm down to a 150.So I added 150ppm cal-mag and some food which brought my ppm up to 530.When I change out the res on friday I will up the ppm to 700.Must get ready for work now

[Weedhound]

They're looking really good.....yes, sounds like you need to replace your probe. You can buy some very inexpensive ph testers at your pet store for aquariums (NO fish ph adjusters....only testers for fish ok) and keep them as a quick back up and calibration set.

Oh yeah, there's ALWAYS something else to buy. :thumbsup: Have fun. :)

PS...keep your ppms up to the correct level and the plants will grow faster and be happier. (when you add water add your nutes and adjust ph to it first) ;)

[Weedhound]

I just reread something else you posted....putting them into flower and then re-vegging them will cost you about a month of time with them going back and forth and I dont know if the stress could cause problems later so I'd think about that for awhile to be sure you want to put the time and energy into that.

[stinkyattic]

I think you may be a little iron deficient in those last pics.
What are you doing for micronutes? I'd give them a foliar feed a couple times with some GH micro mixed according to instructions, or another micro supplement like Algoflash.

[guyfromchi2004]

hey stinky attic,Did you see the pic with my "tools".That's all I have.I don't know what Gh nutes are.Does that stand for "general hydroponic?"I don't want to use a "3" part fert.Isn't my powder fert any good?As for the micronutes,my fert says that it contains all of the micronutes I need.Plus,Thanks to weedhound I am using RO water.I think it would be cheaper for me to just buy a system,Might look on Ebay for one.My growshop sells 2 kind,One for 199.99 and the other for 299.00.Both are spendy,Just when I thought the lights were going to the last expensive thing I will need!!!So I will shop around ebay for one,Give me some examples of a cheap but good Ro system.I must start flowering soon!

[guyfromchi2004]

I haven't "seen" you guys in a couple of days and I am here to update.First,I went and got a new probe for my ph meter.made a hell of a difference!I had to go into flowering,I thought I would be able to keep the roots from getting tangled,there is no way.They grow too fast.I am starting to think,maybe I shouldn't have put 9 plants in that 3 gal bucket.2 plants died.Leaves me with 7.The 2 died because of my laziness and carelessness.The water evaporates at a swift pace.I was down to about 350ppm when I decided to start flowering.It wasn't time to change the res so I added 300ppm of cal-mag and flower food with more ro water.I do have a question though.I notice Cal-mag label states "2-0-0"...So is this good to use throughout flowering or should I switch to something else? Here are some pics from today.2nd day of flowering

[Weedhound]

DONT LOOK SICKLY NOW DO THEY!!!! :thumbsup: Well, I can see why when you had those sad little pups you thought they'd be controllable. HA!

If you use R/o or distilled water.....you need your CalMag. All the way through. :)

[guyfromchi2004]

I'm really starting to understand this PH/PPM thing.I've notice that when I top off or make new solution,My ph starts at about 5.4.It drops to 4.6-4.7 everytime.Ro Water,Cal-Mag,flower food.So now I decided to start the ph at 6.1 and see if I will end up with 5.2.I won't know until I check tonight when it will be "daytime" .I use regular hydro flower food,it's a powder.What are the advantages of the 3-part fert compared to the kind I use?what other suppliments should I buy during my flowering phase?

[Weedhound]

Honestly I've only used one type of hydro nutes from the very beginning (botanicare pro blend products) so I'm really NO help about 3 part nutes. I've heard very good things about the results of using KoolBloom but seriously all I know about it is the name of the product.....never used that one either. :(

sorry......:(

[guyfromchi2004]

This is the 5th day of flowering and there isn't any sign of any type of flowers,Everyday I am starting to realize that 9 plants in a 3 gallon bucket was absurd!I will never do that again!3 would be the max!5.9 840ppm.Here are some pics from yesterday and today

[Weedhound]

LOL!!!! Now you know its absurd.....guy....can I ask you something honestly.....this is not a dis but I really want to know. Back when I asked you...I'm pretty sure I said something about that not being a good idea.....what made you discard that information?
Again....I'm really NOT trying to be mean.....ie......what can I say to the next guy like you that will get him not to do that? Does that question make sense?

PS They are looking stunning.....fucking stunning..... GREAT job. :thumbsup:

[Weedhound]

Ps....Can take up to 14 days to show preflowers.....;)

[guyfromchi2004]

Weeshound,I don't take that as a diss...at all.I listened to what you were saying but the damage was already done.Once,I grew one plant.I gave it all my love and attention,it turned out to be a male.So I told myself,"this time it won't happen,I have 9 of them"That was the 2nd dumbest thing to do (the dumbest thing is planting one plant).I will tell the next person willing to put more than 3 plants in a 3 to5 gallon bucket...good luck,you will need it.Lesson learned weedhound

[Weedhound]

Thanks....you are not the only one who's done it.....I had to laugh at the size your little "babies" now....they have become quite the monsters.. :) I remember being pretty amazed by how much mine grew on my first grow too. :thumbsup:

[r0k]

Any idea what strain it is?

[guyfromchi2004]

Well 3 of the plants were seeds from the Best herb I ever had...as for the rest of them,your guess is just as good mine.Can I just make up a name?...I think I will call them "raspberry mutt-dro x2"...lol

[guyfromchi2004]

I have good news and bad news...First the bad,I will have to sacrifice one plant because it is damaged.It never recovered from the early transplant.It is so small,therefore light doesn't reach it too well compared to the other plants.Despite everything I've been told my 2nd biggest plant is a girl!Ialways thought males showed first.This plant is one of the two that my friend started...I really didn't have too much hope for the two she started because she started them in dirt,in my previous grow...when I tried placing dirt plants in my bubbler,I would get the slimy roots.Not this time.I really need to figure out how to make a bubble cloner now

[guyfromchi2004]

ok,I haven't spoke to you guys in a while,Well first of all,I was curious to how a "hermi" looked.I saw how one looked firsthand!I couldn't believe it!I started with 9 plants,I think 2 died of natural causes and ignorance combined,3 were confimed males,1was a hermi.That left me with 3 confirmed females in a black 5 gal bucket.Current stats 1010 ppm 5.6.about 18 days in flower.Should I get some better flower food than what I have because when added with the cal-mag I have 12 30 18,is my nitrogen too high compared to my "P & K?":greenthumb:

[Weedhound]

Got some pretty girls going there....good work. :thumbsup: What are you using for your bloom nutes?

[guyfromchi2004]

hydrofarm bloom nutrient 10-18-30,cal-mag 2-0-0

[guyfromchi2004]

Day 27 of flowering,I have this stuff called "monster bloom" 0-50-30.I added almost 800 ppm to my rez,I didn't add any of my regular flower food.My question is...Am I supposed to add this "monster bloom" with my cal-mag and flower food? Here are some pics from this morning

[guyfromchi2004]

any idea,how many days left ...note:I do not want the "couch lock" effect.Even while smoking,I have to be productive,so I will need a "clear" high.about 18 more days perhaps?