My 3800watt perpetual grow plan

[turborunner03t]

I want to grow 30lbs collectivly over a years time. I have $20k to spend and if someone would write me a plan I will start a big grow log start to finish.

[stinkyattic]

HAHAHA wouldn't we all.
Write you a plan? It doesn't work like that- do your research, come up with your own setup, and we will critique it.
Have you ever grown before?

[turborunner03t]

I'm sorry I should have known better. :(

[fatsax]

30lb thats like 13,14 kilo aint it...greedy greedy boy :thumbsup:

[stinkyattic]

heres the deal.
If you know your shit, you can pull down a gram per watt per flower cycle (2 months).
You get 6 cycles a year.
It's simple algebra after that.. but you need to be totally on top of your game.

Actually you could do that with 2 x 1000hps...

[scott9116]

$20 grand can buy an ass load of seeds and equipment. If I could spend that much I'd like to get alot more than 30lbs a year. For that kind of cash you could buy 30lbs of weed. Good weed at that. I have an idea: you give me $20k and I'll grow you 30lbs a year!

[Unknownfigure]

$20k would be enough to buy the best equipment, all construction of grow rooms, sterilization of grow rooms, seeds, and it might be enough to power all of these monsters in a year. Of course, if we're talking 20 grand, you should just get a solar panel or four and try your hand at generating your own power for the grow.

[PharmaCan]

Take a look at this thread:

http://boards.cannabis.com/growroom-setup/31194-sealed-room-3lbs-light.html

It's got everything you need to know.

PC :smokin:

[kdspecial]

I would take 30 bucks and buy a good Book.....

Any of the popular "Grow Cannabis Books" they all have plans etc in them..

kd

[turborunner03t]

I was thinking about the 2kw for flower with 6 harvests a year. I'm thinking about 60 plants in flower at a time. what type of lighting should be used for veg? and how big will the mothers need to be for 60 clons every 2 months?

[stinkyattic]

Read the link in my sig.
Scale up as you see appropriate.
Keep 6 mothers in 3 gallon pots. Expect that clone survival rate will be less than 100%.

And finally, have you ever grown before?

[Pass That Shit]

$20 grand can buy an ass load of seeds and equipment. If I could spend that much I'd like to get alot more than 30lbs a year. For that kind of cash you could buy 30lbs of weed. Good weed at that. I have an idea: you give me $20k and I'll grow you 30lbs a year!

I'll take it. Where should I send the check? :jointsmile:

30lbs of quality bud has a street value of $240K where I'm at, I'll give you $20k for growing it. ;)

[fsunoles]

Dude with that kind of cash you should be able to achieve that if not then more. That's like 2.5 a month I believe. Just grow high yielding Indica strains/crosses. I have seen people achieve 2 to 8 oz off one plant. So if you grow 60 plants with goodlighting you can do that.

I warn you though be aware of what you are doing with that many plants. Last factor is your grow experience wich will most likely make you or brake you:hippy:

[turborunner03t]

I really would like to see 30 lbs a year so I have coome up with this grow plan to get me close. Ideas and critics are welcome. This will be a perpetual grow so I will have to first grow 6 white russian mother plants to 5-6 months of age. There will be 2 rooms in the grow. One room with the light on a constant 18/6, and the outher on a constant 12/12. in the 18/6 room the 6 mothers will be kept under a digital 400watt hps light. 60-80 clons will be kept for 2 months under florecent shoplites. Then vegged for 2 months under a single digital 1000watt hps light. The plants will then be put in the flowering room consisting of 2 1000w digital MH lights. The plants will be topped 2-3 times during growth. The plants will be grown in soil. All the lights will be digital and hae light movers on them. I was planing on 1 or 2 squrrel cage fans for each of the rooms with a activated carbon filter. Humidity will be kept in check with cliamate control and I will use a small window unit to cool each room if necissary. All walls are painted flat white. This is my plan folks how do you think it will do for my expectations? I am considering using a co2 burner but am not sure because the grow room air will filter to the rest of the house.

[bongerstonerd00d]

You need to make a few changes to your design, well, actually a lot of changes. You might want to shoot for 3 pounds this year after you figure out how to properly set up your rooms.

3800 watts is going to draw aound 35 amps. Have you thought of that and how to supply it for starters?


b0nger

P.S. DO NOT USE A C02 BURNER AND VENT YOUR GROW ROOM BACK INTO YOUR HOUSE. YOU MIGHT WAKE UP DEAD IF YOU DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[turborunner03t]

the 3800watts wil be suppled by the mighty wall. I wont use co2 as you confirmed my fears. Im confused about the 3 lbs? what do you mean whats wrong with the plan.:what:

[romdog11]

i wouldnt use the MH to flower your plants. I would use the HPS to flower your plants. Use your MH for the veg cycle.

[Suspectelite]

i wouldnt use the MH to flower your plants. I would use the HPS to flower your plants. Use your MH for the veg cycle.
I agree with romdog, also if you wanna get a little closer to your goal, you should get rid of veg cycle & go with the Sea of Green method. it requires alot more smaller plants, but it helps maximize yield, ALOT! Also it costs more to veg a plant then to bud 1 so, getting rid of veg stage would save you about 20% of the cost to grow your pot.
Peace

[bongerstonerd00d]

Turbo, in other words you are going to veg your plants for 30 weeks ? Clones root in 2 weeks max, then they are in "veg" stage. So you are going to give them 30 more weeks ?

After 30 weeks of veg, you'll need to be growing in an unused airplane hanger. And 2000 watts will be like you pissing on a 200,000 acre forest fire.......useless! For 70-80 plants with 30 weeks veg time you would need 200 or more 1000 watt H.P.S., easily.

All this in soil ? Do you own a tandem and a Bobcat? You're going to need it. Do you even have an idea of how much soil your are going to have to dispose of after each grow ? Those plants are going to be 10 feet tall and need to be in 55 gallon drums with that kind of veg time.

Maybe you should try to grow 4-6 plants and figure out some things before you try this "dream grow" of yours.

You need to snap out of it and get back to reality. You cannot do what you want for now, period. Hell, you dont even know what lights to use for what cycle. But you expect 30 pounds a year.........nope!

This thread is a waste of server space!


b0nger

[cture]

Try to search for Tranoble posts, he states that harvests 3 pounds per 1000watt light in 1 flowering cycle. He is the best in sea of green I have seen on this forum. At the moment I have 4 x 56watts lamps philips super tld 80 (around 30 bucks for all) for aero cloners, mothers and clones themselves. Using only this you get at least 40 clones from each seed within 3 months. Then transplant clones in to your grow. By the time the first cycle is finishe you will have enough to start of second flowering cycle. So you will be able to flower your clones 3 times before the end of the year.
If we take half of Tranoble's harvest and your power of lighting 3800w we will receive 5.7 pound per cycle, but you will have 3 cycles, so your overal harves will hit 17.1 pounds. If luckyly you will do well in all these three growing cycles you will get 34.2 pounds. But without the apparatus he uses you should aim for 10 pounds.

[jamstigator]

Given a couple of years to solve the problems that will come up, 30 pounds does seem doable with that much light. The first year or two though, probably not. Especially if he's flowering with 2000 watts of MH and vegging with HPS. Heh.

[stinkyattic]

the 3800watts wil be suppled by the mighty wall.

Most 'mighty walls' can't support the kind of amperage your grow would demand.

You're going to need to get a pro in there to set up an electrical system capable of running all those lights, plus the climate control systems- I draw more juice to run my a/c units than I do to power my lights. Think about that.

Is this going to be your first grow EVER? Why do I think I have asked you this before, twice, wiht no answer? If it wasn't you, but instead another would-be cashcropper.... I'll ask again. Have you ever grown a significant indoor crop before? Your light questions make it seem like you haven't. You MUST start small. You can expand your grow, but the first couple cycles are for learning, and you WILL make mistakes. You can't afford to screw up when the stakes are as high as you plan to make them.

Do your learning on a 1-2k grow that you can safely run off 'the mighty wall' without blowing out your friggin electrical panel...

[stinkyattic]

I merged these threads because, sure enough, the same advice was being given in both...

[the image reaper]

if I was running a huge grow-operation, the LAST thing I would do, is post Grow Logs, or draw any attention to myself ... scary enough, when you only have a half-dozen plants going ... :smokin:

[orangeman]

Wowee $20 grand!? I could see my self having a superb excellent grow room for under 2 grand lol! I really can't wait to see your log bro. And I dunno much to say, anything I was gonna say has probably already been said. so...good luck :thumbsup:

[AustinMan]

Do you guys hear the police sirens comming? Because I do:wtf:

[Opie Yutts]

if I was running a huge grow-operation, the LAST thing I would do, is post Grow Logs, or draw any attention to myself ... scary enough, when you only have a half-dozen plants going ... :smokin:

I was going to comment, but two posts sum it up. The above is one,

[Opie Yutts]

And this is the other:


You MUST start small. You can expand your grow, but the first couple cycles are for learning, and you WILL make mistakes. You can't afford to screw up when the stakes are as high as you plan to make them.

Do your learning on a 1-2k grow that you can safely run off 'the mighty wall' without blowing out your friggin electrical panel...

[turborunner03t]

sorry about the mh hps mix up i was :rasta:. anyway the clones will be put under the 1k to veg asap then put into the flowering room. this isn't my first grow but I have recently gone from outdoors to inside.

[turborunner03t]

oh i will also spend some $$$$ on upgrading the electrical amperage.

[Tomthehippie]

And this is the other:

i agree.

[home.grower]

$20,000?

How big is the space?

[stinkyattic]

Well I think you are nuts.
But that's just my opinion.
Of that 20,000 you have, expect to spend up to 5,000 of it on a proper electrical panel and heavy gauge wiring. Tell the electrician that you are a potter and will be running a kiln off it. Don't forget industrial rated time clocks- the plastic plug in ones are NOT safe for a big draw like that.

[Suspectelite]

if you have enough money that you can just blow 20 grand on tryin to grow bud, why dont you just do somethin small for yourself & buy yourself somethin, like some killer to smoke while you wait for your own to grow

[turborunner03t]

all I will need to do is put a few extra circuts in I have done it before.

[stinkyattic]

all I will need to do is put a few extra circuts in I have done it before.

This frightens me.

What are you running the new circuits off?
Do you have more space on your panel to add breakers?
Are you an electrician?
Is the main feed to your panel heavy enough to handle the total draw?

PLEASE people, don't create fire hazards.

[jamstigator]

Yeah, I'd recommend a professional for all the electrical stuff. Can't risk any mistakes there. Well, you *can*, but lives are at stake, so not advisable. I've seen some horrifying electrical accidents. Saw one guy get fried so bad his fingers on one hand were fused together, had to have them surgically reseparated. He never really got the full use of that hand back.