What's jail or prison like???

[EternalOverdose]

IF anyone has been to jail or even prison could they share thoughts about it?
Is it like the movies?
is it all that bad?
do u 100% have to join agang?
do ppl get fucked up by other inmates or is that just TV?
TV makes it look so fun

[jaGerbom]

I think this is a good idea for a thread and it'll be pretty interesting to see some answers but i definitely dont think TV makes it look fun.

[420_Spaceman]

It's hell... 6 days a week you sit in da same spot... you may come across weed once every 2 weeks... you can't piss in privacy... or shit.... it's hell for real

[jaGerbom]

ok im being very serious here but TV and movies always put a lot of emphasis on the whole shower scene. what goes on there. Do you just shower and get out, or is there some funny business going on?

[Unknownfigure]

IF anyone has been to jail or even prison could they share thoughts about it?
Is it like the movies?
is it all that bad?
do u 100% have to join agang?
do ppl get fucked up by other inmates or is that just TV?
TV makes it look so fun

To answer your questions in order...

It is sort of like the movies.

Yes.

You don't neccassarily have to join a gang, if you either know enough people or can defend yourself pretty well you will survive. It just depends on what type of hate people have for you. Sometimes, it really is in your best interest to join a gang, but if you can beat alot of peoples asses, you eventually start to get a little respect. Or, if the ass you beat happened to be a high-ranked AB or MM head, you might end up getting killed. It all depends.

Yes, people get fucked there.

You think that sounds fun? Go to prison, come back, and tell us how it went. Guarantee you that if you go in there with the "Let's have fun!" mindset you will most likely end up being beaten by the people that are doing 25 or life. It's not fun at all. You don't really have any freedom, and in some prisons, even the guards rape you. Guard brutality is not uncommon in prisons at all, and since they use nightsticks, pepperspray, tasers, and they even put on SWAT gear, if they want to pick on you you are pretty much fucked and you can't even hit back because hitting that gear would hurt you more than it would them. And forget about thinking a prison-quality shank would go through a SWAT vest. So you are completely defenseless against the guards. But I gotta tell you, I'd rather do a 5 year US sentence than a two month Indian or Afghani sentence. Still, it's not fucking fun (unless you like being beaten and being everybody's personal bitch)


Edit: And about the shower scene, in the showers, alot of jumps happen. That's when you don't have anything to hide, so it's easy for alot of people to rush someone and kill them (especially with a fresh bar of soap) Some common weapons inmates use are a few hard bars of soap inside a sock, and a quick swing across one's head and he's be OUT. Shower rapes aren't actually as common as you'd think...atleast, they aren't that common down here.

[420_Spaceman]

ain't no damn funny business! If you drop da soap, it's OVER... that shyt iz real... i said fuck i didn't use soap! i ain't tryin to impress no body... i was seein da same people err day!! ain't no need for bein clean lol... but you have to be scared for your life at nite, in da mornin and pretty much 24/7....

[ganjzilla]

ok well i kno a little about this because my cousin got 2 years in county for possession of marijuana with intent to distribute (lived in a commonwealth VA) and had a lb and some change on him...and my uncle got 26 in state pen for cocaine distribution...county jails arent fun but much more easy to deal with then state...cuz u only go to state pen for large charges so everyone there is doing real time, murderers petafiles rapists gangbangers u name it their there...drugs run the show there, gangs own the drugs so yea tvs right in that sense, typically if u stick to urself ull be ok but u never know if these people were all the way on the rocker to begin with they prolly wouldnt be in the penitentiary

[HighTillIDie]

most jails don't suffer from gay sex issues, only in prisons where the long staying gentelman are looking for a soul mate... in fact an average jail is homophobic... you shit infront of other people... and the jail couldn't care about your court case, if your innocent, of if you have pnemonia

[geonagual]

I got 3 words of advice...

Dont get caught...

[cavmanfotwent]

watch alaskas most dangerous prison ( i think thats what its called ) it will give you a good idea. kinda

[fasterspider]

I spent 7 years in the California Dept of Corrections with the #J-15260 arrested March 3rd 1994 for forgery and convicted of Grand Theft. I dis-charged my parole on January 19th 2000 and in that 7 years that was only supposed to be 16 months with a 3 year parole, I managed to get busted 7 times and found out the hard way how prison sucks ass.
When I was doing my 4th parole violation in Tahachapi prison, I got into a fight with a Nazi Low Rider and beat him down so I could have my jaw broken by another Nazi Low Rider because I did not take the dive and cower to a man that I knew was a homosexual punk on the street and a wannabe tough guy in prison.
I refused to roll with a gang when I did my time and was respected for it, especially after my incident with the NLR prison gang.
I have been in county jails from here to New York's Suffolk County Jail in Riverhead and can tell you this, being incarcerated sucks more than anything I can imagine and is no place for anyone that has any kind of morales.
Since I quit doing drugs and drinking alcohol, I do not get into trouble with the law and my life is great. All my friends know of my past and do not hold it against me because I was a different person then. If you can consider a useless piece of shit drug addict a person that is.
Prison/jail sucks and you do not want to go there, trust me on that.

[Anubis10012007]

If people choose to engage in violent behavior or choose to steal, there will be consequences for it because they are real crimes and they deserve to be in jail with people of their own kind. I don't tolerate that shit myself.

I don't believe people should be in prison for drug use though. Drug "abuse" is a health concern and not a criminal matter. Hold people accountable for their actions and not for what they put into their body. Arrest the people who are killing others over turf so they can sell their crack.

Although prison is crowded with drugs, violent people do not smoke weed. They wouldn't be violent if they did.

When I get into an argument, it is all verbal and never physical. I never resort to violence. The violent ones are the people running and smoking crack and shooting heroin and speed. Happens all the time and its a shame.

If i were a federal judge, drug prohibition laws would be struck down immediately because no one deserves to be in jail simply for using or possessing personal amounts of any drug. But if you're high on crack and your robbing people, than your ass is going to jail.

BTW, you can generally tell people who are of "lesser character" too. Sometimes you really can tell a book by its cover.

[slipknotpsycho]

it's not like the movies portray it being.... and for those who haven't went they all have this picture in their head of how it's going to be, and it's nothing like that....

it is hell.... it's boring as fuck, and you will have to fight unless you wanna get punk'd the whole way through your stay there.... even if you know you won't win you better fight back, even they beat your ass and they know they can, if you fight, they find someon else, who won't fight... someone they can walk up to and take their tray and they won't say shit....

but DO NOT go up in there like you're some hard ass... as that will draw everyone on you like flies on shit... stay quiet, do your time, fight when you have to, other then that try to stay to yourself... and never EVER snitch for any reason... even if they aren't involved, pretty much everyone in your unit/cell block will hate your ass and take ever oppurtunity to maek your life a living hell if they know you're a snitch...

[king of the world]

jail is pretty easy but boring as fuck.

i have never been to prison but from what i heard, you dont want to be in there.

if your soft, cant fight, and or nice you will get punked out or theyll beat your ass.

[partyguy420]

it's not like the movies portray it being.... and for those who haven't went they all have this picture in their head of how it's going to be, and it's nothing like that....

it is hell.... it's boring as fuck, and you will have to fight unless you wanna get punk'd the whole way through your stay there.... even if you know you won't win you better fight back, even they beat your ass and they know they can, if you fight, they find someon else, who won't fight... someone they can walk up to and take their tray and they won't say shit....

but DO NOT go up in there like you're some hard ass... as that will draw everyone on you like flies on shit... stay quiet, do your time, fight when you have to, other then that try to stay to yourself... and never EVER snitch for any reason... even if they aren't involved, pretty much everyone in your unit/cell block will hate your ass and take ever oppurtunity to maek your life a living hell if they know you're a snitch...

snitching in jail is worse then snitching some one out on the streets.... about a week befor i got out of jail... i was bunked up with a guy... and he was always pissing me off... well... i called him a fucked up fucking idiot... and he got all but hurt about it... and ran off basicaly crying and told the guard...

well latter on, after rec, the guard came and pulled him out of our cell(they rarely pull you out of your cell after rec, during the guards break unless your going down to see the nurse...(it takes 2 minutes to get to the nurses office, and 2 minutes back...) this guy was gone for about 1 minute... and he came back in and said god damn that nurse is fucking stupid... and thats when i was like ok... im flushing all contraband right now.... and so i flushed my pens and penciles... the set of dice i had in my room.... the monoply boat... a few paper clips.... and 2 sets of cards(your only alowed to have one deck of cards in your cell were i was locked up at) and about 30 seconds after flushing the last card... they opend my cell... and serached it.... and i got put on lock down, because i told the kid as i was flushing everything, that if he said something to the guards... and they come in here and question me about anything, im kicking your ass... well he told them i said that... i got serached... they took the phone numbers of a few homies(2 of them back because i said that they were my cusians numbers, and the rest of the numbers i had were of people that were in my unit) but anyways, i knew i was getting out soon... so i didnt do anything about it... but i had 2 friends that were looking at 5 years...(the most i would have done was a year and got out because they droped a charge down to 3rd degree instead of 2nd degree) but anyways... while i was on lock down, my homie, who was looking at 5 years already, just beat the shit out of this kid... for snitchiing on me...

but personaly... im not sure what prison is like... ive only been in jail... wich is way different from prison... but i would have rathered of gone to prison... from what i hear the food is better... you have more free time...in the one i would have went to, you are alowed to have a CD player... they have a school were you can actualy get a GED... or become a certified welder....

[not_the_kitty]

One of my friends got out of prison like a year ago after doing 3 years for robbing a mcdonalds. What he told me was pretty much like stuff off of Lock Up or whatever its called on MSNBC. He always wanted to play speed or card games when we were smoking and had nothing to do, he said he would hustle people for snack cakes playing cards. He never said anything about fighting but he is the kind who wouldnt admit to getting their ass beat. When he was getting out everone punched him in the arms until they were bruised, he said that if he got sent back the that prison that eveyone would do the same thing but on his face.....and he got sent back a few months later....too bad for him, thats why you got to check in with your PO. But I never asked him about any sexual shit that went down cause I didnt want to piss him off, But he said that his cell mate liked this one diet infomercial where the girl had a really big ass in her before picture. Overall it sounded like he had a pretty shitty time. I think it would suck ass to go to prison but I dont think I would be dead either, Im not afriad to fight even if Ill lose as long as I dont look like a bitch.

[king of the world]

[quote=partyguy420]about a week befor i got out of jail... i was bunked up with a guy... and he was always pissing me off... well... i called him a fucked up fucking idiot... and he got all but hurt about it... and ran off basicaly crying and told the guard...[QUOTE]

for some reason i dont believe this. this sounds like kindergarden not jail. guards dont give a fuck if some one called you names.

[slipknotpsycho]

well he never said the gaurd did care.. :p

just that he ran off crying to the guard.

[king of the world]

well he never said the gaurd did care.. :p

just that he ran off crying to the guard.

he did not say that they cared but he said he got put on lock down for talking shit to someone else

"they opend my cell... and serached it.... and i got put on lock down, because i told the kid as i was flushing everything, that if he said something to the guards... "

guards over there must have a lot of time

[FoTwenny]

It's not so bad. You get to lift weights, take long showers, write up appeals, lift weights.



Actually I wouldn't know. That was from a Pee Wee Herman movie.

[slipknotpsycho]

he did not say that they cared but he said he got put on lock down for talking shit to someone else

"they opend my cell... and serached it.... and i got put on lock down, because i told the kid as i was flushing everything, that if he said something to the guards... "

guards over there must have a lot of time

it depends really.... if it's a small jail gaurds usually do take preventative steps to prevent fights... after all, fights mean paper work for them...

but if it's some huge ass jail, like harris county jail... they don't care... they may prevent one fight, but then there are 50 others that happen reguardless... huge jails pose a problem of preventative measures since there is just so many inmates.

[couch-potato]

I did an overnight in the slammer once as a Juvenile, I kept pissing off the officers because I kept staring at them and smiling. I wouldn't want to go to prison. Don't act like your tough shit and saying it looks fun. Watching the prison scenes in American History X was more than enough for me because that shit is real.

[4twentE]

Ne'r been to prison but been to jail several times. I imagine prison would be worse simply because you're in there for the long haul whereas jail is only 30 days or less in most cases. In jail there's less to do. When I went, we had 30 people in one room. There was 1 TV, plenty of cards, a couple sets of dominoes, pens, paper and a book cart once a week. It was still more boring than watching grass grow. They were the longest weeks of my life. One time I snuck about an ounce of tobacco in with me. I lived like a king in jail then. Got in a fight over it cause some dude thought he could punk me out of it. But I kept my goddamn tobacco. That shit's more valuable than platinum in jail. So fights are common, but not the butt rape, gang violence, and other shit you see in real prison.

Overall, I'd say jail is fairly accurately portrayed, but not prison. I faired alright by keeping to myself. In prison, (i'd imagine) you can count on your folks to help you a little in a bad situation. Once my tobacco ran out, so did my "friends". However fun it is, don't make friends in jail. Don't get numbers from people in jail and call them when they get out. You think they'll keep you out of trouble? You'll wind up right back in there with 'em. But if it's so fun looking, go ahead.

[Nation_1ne]

he did not say that they cared but he said he got put on lock down for talking shit to someone else

"they opend my cell... and serached it.... and i got put on lock down, because i told the kid as i was flushing everything, that if he said something to the guards... "

guards over there must have a lot of time

I got the impression that partyguy420 had upset the guy, so he then ran off to tell the guards that partyguy420 had items that were not allowed, or exceeded a quantity that they were limited to. Which is why he flushed all the stuff away because he knew that the search was gonna' happen and he had been breaking the rules.

[Oleg]

I think it would be cool to tell someone that I was in jail/prison even though I've never been there. I mean, it's prison. Prison means that you may be a criminal, and criminal stuff is cool. I mean, people may commit crimes like rape or murder simply because it may be a natural desire for a human being to do so. I never murdered or raped anybody, but I know it would feel natural for me to do that. But at the same time, of course, I would be scared of the possibility of being raped or beat up in a prison.

[hippy lettuce]

D'ya think you're bad or summets? crime isn't cool, being a criminal isn't cool and going to prison would not be cool lol and it's def not gonna sound cool saying you've been there once you've grown up and actually want a proper job...you'd end up regretting it.

[jaGerbom]

I think it would be cool to tell someone that I was in jail/prison even though I've never been there. I mean, it's prison. Prison means that you may be a criminal, and criminal stuff is cool. I mean, people may commit crimes like rape or murder simply because it may be a natural desire for a human being to do so. I never murdered or raped anybody, but I know it would feel natural for me to do that. But at the same time, of course, I would be scared of the possibility of being raped or beat up in a prison.

I'm finally starting to see why other people dont like our country.

[king of the world]

ive been there but i would never brag about it, im kind of embarassed about.

[mfqr]

Prison is like a big phallice: truly an eye-opener.

[The Colonel]

I went to jail for the first time 2 days ago,,, and for 12 hours I was locked in a cold ass cell with only a concrete bench to sit on.. the whole time people we slamming on their cell doors, and i can tell you it was not a fun expirience.

[ocbornandrazd]

no time right now but I'll be back.I served 2 terms in Cali,all drug related,even got a poss in prison,idiot,that was me.First term in 94 last term i paroled in '97 and ran till 2005.Went to college,methadone so I had proof of testing clean and also did something positive.As always,I got caught and sat for 2wks in LA Co.,miserable.Lost 25lbs.I';; telll you the rest,fill in blanks of prison life.Matter fact I just saw an old cellee of mine on "Arrest & Trial".Puppet was her street name.Thinking of her I cried because I know she isn't the same person today.I have some brutal stories from Cali Womens Prison.Ya want to hear some?Let me know,otherwise I will not bore you.

[rantingsweed]

I have some brutal stories from Cali Womens Prison.Ya want to hear some?Let me know,otherwise I will not bore you.

do tell

[Lankan Lion]

If you like smoking weed don't go to jail unless your willing to drop up to a bill for an eight of schwag

also dont go to jail if you dont like getting your teeth knocked out, shanked, being forced into organized fights for gambling or getting everything you own jacked. If you're going to jail you better know how to fight, and how to keep to your own damn self

[biggerbuds1000]

going to prison fucked my head up,thats why i have to smoke the shit now

[4osiris]

If you are-or act like a bitch on the streets then nine times out of ten you will be treated like a bitch in prison. Hold your own at all times and even gang members will respect you in or out of prison. I've been to prison three times(assault on a peace officer;assault on a peace officer;drug trafficking,having weapons while under disability). I've given the Ohio Department of Corrections seven years of my life and I am constantly vowing to give them no more. I was even locked down during the prison riots of '92. And you could imagine the shit I had to deal with from COs being in prison for harming one of their fellow officers. It's a mental thing 24/7 You gotta stray strong! Peace!

[RhinoGrowUK]

Well jail in the UK is a fuckin joke , and yes unfort i have been there , all for a good cause of course ; GANJA !

If anyone in the uk thinks you get your teeth knocked out, shanked, raped , all that other shit in UK jails, then they obviously have not been.

Anyone been to butlins ?!?!? then you've basically been to a UK jail !!

[RhinoGrowUK]

oh yeah , and gay boys in prison get their fuckin head kicked in !!

[pass_the_dubbie]

Never been to prison and I prey I never have to. Ive been looked in a cell at the local station for the most of a day and of course was let go since I never did anything in the first place. The place stank of piss, was freezing and was very disorientating.

[4osiris]

And also in my opinion. You as an individual must set certain principles and standards that will follow you where ever you go-including prison. Yes! Even ex cons have character. It takes you a long way. I don't involve myself with incarcerated individuals' spouses. I don't disrespect elders. I don't play homosexual jokes(because it entices violence)and I'm not homophobic. I don't ridicule and prey on the meek, and my list continues. I'm a Cleveland, oh native(GOTRIBE!). And where I come from the streets represent prisons and vice versa. Hell! You can even establish a covert relationship with female COs and bypass the Gay Scene all together by having the female officer pull strings to have you work(bullshit 15 cents a day)around her for up to 12hrs a day. Sometimes even cleaning the showers just waiting for the opportunity to give her some penal pleasure! I've done it. And trust me there are some BABES working as prison guards nowadays. Homosexuality in prison is optional, being there is not. But overall I choose freedom and family.Because once its said and done that's all that matters the most. Just remember that your manhood is all that you have once you're stripped of everything. And it's definitely worth dying for any place any time! Guards Up! Emotions Down! Peace.

[Boomhauer]

well u dont have to join a gang but u do have to stick to ur kind
dont try and act hard cuz thats just asking for someone to hit u up always watch ur own back never trust no one even ur best friend be cool with ur celly but never trust him
mind ur own business n keep ur mouth shut
the soap part alot of jails have done away with bar soap and use liquid
all showers are different some are inclosed some are wide open theirs no stalls
never make the cook mad ull never know what u get in ur food
never bow down to someone
and if ur one to get raped in their make sure u kill that fool the next day and dont say shit bout it all ur cellys wil know even most of the guards and always stick to self defense
the list goes on its differnet everywhere but the codes are generally the same
and no its not like the movies where it looks all fun and shit u have some good days and some bad but then u remember whats on the otherside girls parties friends then u remember ur stuck inside no woman no privacy and no security no life and u sit their and ponder about what the fuck did i get myself into and it eats u up u get angry easier
but shit u really want to know the get ur self locked up

[SyndicateJuggalos17]

do ppl get fucked up by other inmates or is that just TV?
TV makes it look so fun

HAHAHA those look funny by each other...

no don't go to prison or you'll get wrapped up in toilet paper and set on fire.... ok maybe not but i dont think they would send criminals to a place thought of as "fun"

[PHATTY LUMPKINS]

Well I have been there as well. To the tune of, well let's just say over a Decade STRAIGHT!! IT SUCK'S BIG TIME. If you like showering with other dude's, shitting while people are walking by your cell. watching your back, in the chow hall, the rec yard, or just in general movement around the joint. And not to mention losing EVERY RIGHT, you ever had. Oh yeah. and not to mention that with all the click's and gangs. You better be able to handle your self if it comes down to it, because you will be tried by SOMEONE WHILE YOUR THERE. my advice would be to keep your mouth shut, mind your own business. do not trust anyone, cause if you do something that is against their rules. Your good freinds in there, who are extremely jealous over your abilities to make it work for you, are usually the ones who will RAT on you. Now i dont want to hear any holier than thou responses from those of you who disagree about breaking the rules in prison. The rules change every day, and usually not to benifit the Inmates. So ANYONE who say's they have been there for any length of time, know's the real way a Max security joint is ran. If you think It's cool go out and catch you a case, do your time then come back and let us know how much fun you REALLY HAD IN THERE.

[TheGreenBuddy]

no time right now but I'll be back.I served 2 terms in Cali,all drug related,even got a poss in prison,idiot,that was me.First term in 94 last term i paroled in '97 and ran till 2005.Went to college,methadone so I had proof of testing clean and also did something positive.As always,I got caught and sat for 2wks in LA Co.,miserable.Lost 25lbs.I';; telll you the rest,fill in blanks of prison life.Matter fact I just saw an old cellee of mine on "Arrest & Trial".Puppet was her street name.Thinking of her I cried because I know she isn't the same person today.I have some brutal stories from Cali Womens Prison.Ya want to hear some?Let me know,otherwise I will not bore you.

Let me hear!

[Iguana]

It will largely depend on the prison system you might be in, and even the particular institution you might lock at. Forget the movies. It's real life.

[twitch]

I think this is a good idea for a thread and it'll be pretty interesting to see some answers but i definitely dont think TV makes it look fun.
at no point in time is jail/prison fun

i spend a week in county but i might be seeing the pin real soon if my lawyer cant prove i didn't do it.
anyone been in a texas prison? let me know how much that sucks..

[higher4hockey]

I did not write this. but i think its a pretty good read.




Above all, you must realize that you'll be a prisoner like all the others, reduced to just a number, and no better than an illiterate Cuban whore or white trailer trash.

Never, EVER become involved in gambling. It’s a death trap, as sure as walking into an aryan fest with name badge that says zog.

NEVER involve yourslef with punks. Do not have sex with punks, do not associate with those who have sex with punks, etc. Many an inmate has been killed by a jealous boyfriend. This may not seem like the shiny happy egalitarian thing to do, but believe me, neither is dying.

NEVER invoke debts you cannot repay. It is best not to invoke any debts period. When you first enter any institution, you will be approaced with 241 offers. Meaning that the person will front you 1 item (pack of cigs, commisary food, whatever) but you will have to repay them two. This is a classic trap for unexperienced inmates. If you smoke, quit. If you want items from the commisary, etc. wait until you have money on your books, or your in a position with your prison job that you can run your own hustle, and have items to barter with. The basic rule, is to NEVER take ANYTHING on credit. This will get you killed or seriously injured or TURNED OUT and pimped to pay your bill real fast.

NEVER use drugs in prison, of any type. I will make an exception for Marijuana, because it’s not addictive, but again, ONLY smoke it if you can pay for it. Take NOTHING ON CREDIT.

NEVER collaborate with the hacks against a fellow inmate, and NEVER give any information up about another inmate.

If you are arrogant to other prisoners, you'll alienate them and create many enemies. This could prove fatal.

Always be respectful and polite to other prisoners, regardless of how weird they may act or dress. First, because you don't know who or what they are, and second, because respect and personal dignity are the most valued possessions left to a prisoner.

Never tell another prisoner what to do or give anyone orders. Don't tell the noisy ones in the law library to be quiet. Prisoners deeply resent being bossed around by another prisoner. Their likely reponse -- even to a polite request -- is, "What are you, a fuckin' cop?"

Never stare at another prisoner for more than a second or two. He may be a walking powder keg, set off by an intrusive stare. He may either assault you on the spot or wait until darkness. Even if he doesn't kill you outright, your face will never look the same again.

Avoid anyone offering to “take you under their wing” or help you out. Generally, they are booty bandits, or Jailhouse pimps running a well thought out and practiced game against you.

Your first days


Entering prison for the first time can be a frightening experienced The noise level is what strikes you and it is unlike any noise that you have ever heard before. It's human noise and clamor. That, coupled with the sight of those dreary bars, made me think, "Man, what have I gotten myself into here?!" When you have entered prison, you have entered a world unto itself. Each prison is different. What applies to one prison certainly will not apply to another. Generally, certain common things will take place. You will be taken off of a bus or other transport, and led into the prison. While this is taking place, other inmates will be “sizing you up”, and jeering at you, trying to intimidate you through fences, windows, etc. Keep your eyes forward, do NOT respond, and ignore it. Period. Once you are inside the prison, you will have to go through any number of humiliating experiences. You will get your photograph taken for your commisary card. You may be questioned. You WILL be strip searched. This is a very impersonal, and not at all private procedure. You and your fellow new prisoners will be hearded together like cattle, and then made to form a line. You will be forced to strip, and stand in line, sometimes for more than an hour. When it gets to be “your turn” in the line, you will have to raise your arms, raise your feet, spread your ass (to make sure you have no contraband hidden up there), raise your penis/scrotum if you are a male, open your vagina if you are female, etc.

After this process is done, you will generally be issued your staples. Your prison uniform, your blanket, etc. and sometimes a sack lunch. Then you enter the prison.

Nothing generally happens at first, but it will. You can count on someone paying you a visit, or someone stepping to you while you’re eating and trying to take your food, etc. Unless you are sexually threatened, or you feel that your life is in SERIOUS danger, it is best to fight. Fight hard. As hard as you can without weapons until a hack comes and stops it. This will gain you respect. It won’t keep you from having problems ever again, but there is no shortage of people who are so scared that they will submit to just about anything. If you are not one of those people, you’re less likely to have a problem. This stuff is usually a power issue, with someone who has some inner cowardice and wants to punk out someone to look/feel harder.

If you are stepped to sexually, or you feel like you run the risk of death, than do whatever you can to protect yourself. It is better to kill a predator than to be their prey. The other option, is to become chattel. Someones slave, who they can pimp out for money, drugs, commisary items, etc, and this is more often than not the case.

If you are ever raped, there is a certain way this horrible situation must be handled. People who have never been to prison think it can never happen to them. Don’t ever think that. You have to have it firmly set in your mind, and make sure others know that you realize you are not superman, and that it could happen, but it will never happen twice. If you are raped, you HAVE to kill the attacker immediately (or as soon as possibly) afterwards. This will prevent it from ever happening again. No piece of ass is worth dying over, and predators will move on to easier and more complacent victims if they feel like you have the will and fortitude to kill them if it happens. Often, if you show a willingness to fight, other inmates will help you out. This may come in the form of them telling someone not to fuck with you, to providing you with shanks/other weapons to kill the individual, etc.

Some people are of the notion that it is better to accept rape, or giving up your food, or any other type of submissive position, especially if you are a short timer and will be getting out soon. This is absolutely WRONG. First, you have a right to live as dignified a life as possibly. Secondly, if you are EVER sent back up, or catch more time whle you’re inside, or are transferred to another joint, your rep will follow you, and you will be destined for a life of a lot more of the same. This type of situation also almost ALWAYS has a snowballing effect. It never stops at something simple. Make one concession and you’ll be making them for the rest of your life (however long or short that may end up being!).

For brothers (especially) and sisters who are bi-sexual or gay; Do not engage in a submissive punk relationship, even if sucking dick is ok with you. The life of a prison punk is no life. I have seen grown men forced to wear a mixture of cool-aid and vaseline on their lips like lipstick, walk talk and dress like a woman, and I have even seen a “punk” killed on the spot for standing up to piss. We are skinheads, and we are revolutionaries. It is better to die than to live under that type of tyranny. There are always people in prison who want to have sex, and it’s not going to be a problem for you to find someone to get with, if that’s your thing.

Prisons are classified by security levels (Maximum, Close, Medium, Minimum). You will have different rules and types of people according to what kind of prison you find yourself in.

Although each prison is different, there exists three basic groupings in all prisons. This social strata consists of the administration, guards, and the prisoners themselves. Each group operates according to its own set of rules and values, while there exists an interplay between the three, and none being totally independent of the others.

The administrators of prisoners are usually people with years of devoted service in the penal system. Some are educated in the science of penology, but for the most part they are persons who came up through the ranks as guards. After taking a number of college courses, or gaining a degree in some social science, they were granted their positions and titles. At the higher levels of penal administration can be found a bit more educated persons who are more devoted to the penal system. These are the warders and people who help make policy decisions. In this modern day, they are usually Black people. For those who understand the negative consequences of incarceration, their appointments to those positions can be recognized for what it is, a divisive tactic. Normally, they are no more than mere figureheads who do the system's bidding.

Rules in prison are formulated to either antagonize or placate prisoners, but their main purpose is to control. The guards are the people who enforce the rules. They act as middle-men between administrators and prisoners. As prisons and people in them differ, so do guards. Some are real professionals. They respect other human beings. They spend eight hours at their jobs and go home. Others are the worst types of people. Dirt poor and barely literate, they exist in a no-man's land between welfare or prison for themselves. They deal in contraband and are capable of brutal acts (including murder) against prisoners. Most are former military people, ex-cops, or people who couldn't qualify for police departments. They thrive on having authority. Some hold memberships in racist organizations and Masonic orders. Suffering psychological problems, their world-view is negative, and that is how they generally view most prisoners.

The most difficult part about having contact with prison administrators and guards is that they usually operate from a set of preconceived notions about all prisoners. For them a textbook example of a prisoner is dumb, petty, passively or aggressively homosexual, scheming, and manipulative. Their manuals generally describe all prisoners this way. They tend to lump all prisoners into these categories. Accordingly, it would be safe to lump them all into one category as well. Expect them to be indifferent, authoritative, and brutal you. When you encounter an administrator or guard who is different, consider it a rarity.

Prisoners come from a variety of backgrounds. Prison is a confined place, packed with living bodies of every shape, color and size. You will find yourself closer to other human beings than you have ever been before, many of whom you won't like. When conditions are crowded, there is a natural tendency for people to band together for mutual protection as well as friendship. Most prisons are divided by groups. These divisions occur along racial, religious, and ideological lines, as well as gang affiliations. The administrators and guards usually know who's who, because they are kept abreast of the inside goings-on by their inmate informants.

There exists a class of people who are "at home" inside prison. They were conditioned for prison life from childhood. Starting out in juvenile correctional facilities they later made the transition to youth reformatories and adult prisons. They are totally inept as criminals and have been incarcerated any number of times. They are institutionalized and would rather be in prison than out. By conditioning, prison's safe, controlled environment is best-suited to them, a place where they are clothed, fed, and told what to do. Outside life is too difficult to grapple with for these individuals.

For another class of people, prison is a kind of homeless shelter. They don't necessarily want to be in prison, but in a sense they are forced to be. Unskilled, homeless and destitute, they enter jails and prisons for an array of minor crimes to be fed and rested-up. Prison gives them a needed break from homelessness and crack addiction. For them a six month to a year sentence is a heavenly blessing. They aren't criminals in the real sense but men and women who have been forced by economic and social conditions to take the easy way out time and time again.

For yet another class of people coming to prison is an occupational hazard. Crime is their vocation and they take coming to prison all in stride. It would be incorrect to type them as institutionalized, because they long for the free world. They make no excuses for what they did and openly discuss what they will do once back out on the streets. They intend to gang bang, rob and peddle dope. Their time inside prison is just an extension of their criminal lives on the outside. Many continue to profit from vices while in prison.

ASSOCIATIONS


In everyday life, whether we find ourselves in jail or out, associations are important. We are often judged by who we associate ourselves with. The old saying, "Birds of a feather flock together" holds true. Because of the close proximity, you will be judged more harshly by your associations by others in prison. We are assumed to be of a particular character or to engage in certain activities by whom we associate ourselves with. Associations are of two types, positive and negative.

One of the first steps toward change and self-improvement is to begin to choose positive associations in our prison environment whose influences will benefit us in the long run. One good look around will tell you that there is very little actual thinking going on in our prison environments. The real thinkers are few, and that is what makes them noticeable. You will find these persons taking full advantage of the educational and vocational opportunities made available to them. They use their time wisely preparing themselves for their lives in the free world. These are the best associates, and we can usually benefit from their insights and accept their advice.

There are others who are leaders of gangs and various other factions inside prison. In love with a feeling of power over others, like actors, they play-out roles in their own little Godfather movies. They control the drugs, gambling, extortion, and other vices inside prison. Their manipulative abilities are usually honed by years of jailhouse experience. They know all the right buttons to push, and they orchestrate others in doing their bidding. Needless to say, nothing positive may be gained from these associations.

As previously stated, the choices in our associations holds itself out to us daily. I recognize that peer pressure plays a part, also, especially in a close environment such as prison; however, when most people see a person take a definite stand to do something good, they will usually respect it. The same is true for ourselves. We must take that firm stand to take on associations that are right and in our own best interest.

TIME UTILIZATION


In doing time in prison, time is the essential factor. Our physical lives are measured by seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months and years. Time measures our physical lives; therefore, we should begin to measure time and become time conscious. In this way we can utilize our time in prison and work it to our best advantage.

If you look around the prison you are in, you will see a lot of time being squandered. Valuable hours of each day are being wasted senselessly in useless pursuits. There is no harm in recreation, but when entire days are spent playing board games, cards, basketball, and watching television, then priorities have to be questioned.

An objective evaluation must be made of each and every activity that we engage in. We can determine if the activity is beneficial to us by its end results (what we actually benefit from it) and how much of our time is devoted to it. An hour game of cards or chess can be enjoyable and relaxing, but when these games last up to four or five hours, then it has become a waste of time. - The same stands true of basketball. (Don't dribble your life away.) None of these recreational pursuits can change our lives or prepare us to be stronger revolutionaries who can go out into the world to face life's challenges.

The most senseless use of time in prison has to be constant television watching. There are adult men in prison who watch cartoons and soap operas for hours each day. They know all the soaps' characters, plots, and can figure all the possible scenarios of upcoming episodes. They live through the tube. They call television the "Boob Tube" because it will make you dumb if you aren't already. Its shameless, naked images will poison your mind and spirit. Its fantasy will rob you of all original creative thinking abilities. Constant television watching develops the dangerous habit of always wanting to be entertained, which causes laziness.
Television is a no-no. Cut out television for one month and you will be surprised at what you can get accomplished in that time. Knowing how to manage time properly is important in everyday life. When we learn how to get the most out of our days, we will come to know a real sense of satisfaction and accomplishment. There are only twenty-four hours in a day. The more you begin to actually do the clearer it becomes that there never is enough time to get things done. Then you will understand the value of time.

Here are some suggestions for successful time management: develop the habit of getting up early. This can be a plus. All that is needed is an alarm clock and a little will power. Think of getting up early as getting a jump on the competition. When the rest of the world is just waking, you'll be up, cleaned, groomed, dressed and already in full motion.

Begin to make daily schedules. Think of yourself as someone with a lot to do but limited time. At night before going to bed, list all you want to do the next day. Keep this list with you and check off things off as you do them during the day. Review the list at night to see what you didn't get done. Put what you didn't do on the list for the next day.

Set short-term and long-term goals. Goals are objectives and life doesn't have much purpose without them. In order to attain your goal, you must formulate a plan. For instance, your short-term goal may be to get a G.E.D. in six months. Your plan to obtain that goal would be to study for a couple of hours a day. Beyond this, your long term goal could be to earn an Associates Degree in two years. As your plan, you would set a pace for your classes in that two year period of time.

Our time in prison should not be wasted. It is time in our lives. This is the best time that we can possibly have to develop ourselves in all ways. We're being fed, clothed and housed (in my case "warehoused"). There are no bills to pay, no job to go to. To gain as much knowledge, awareness and skills as we can should be our primary objective. If the capitalist system has given you a lot of time, then you should leave prison with a college degree or several good skills. Get the best out of the situation and don't let the situation get the best out of you. This is how to "beat the system" and walk away ahead of things. You can do all of this by learning how to use time effectively.

Your Mental Health


Prison will destroy you mentally if you allow it to. Being in prison can be one of the most degrading experiences in life. It seems that degradation is the main purpose of prison. Dress codes, serial numbers, buzzers and bells, strip searches, inadequate privacy and lists of rules too long to remember are used as means to humiliate, tear you down and annihilate you psychologically.

Having a strong mind helps one to survive the rigors of prison. This calls for having a positive mental outlook in spite of the circumstances. Prison is a negative place. Probably some of the most negative thinking on the planet takes place inside of prisons. There are many broken people in prison who suffer from defeatism. They have failed in life because they never really try. When they see others attempting to make positive strides, they often criticize but never encourage.

Never count yourself amongst the losers. By keeping a positive outlook you will have the advantage in any situation. It can be quite difficult, but at some point all things face opposition. As prison can be one of the worst possible situations there will be many obstructions to your progress. In developing and keeping a positive mental outlook, you will remove your first and greatest obstacle --yourself.

Having a strong belief in yourself is vitally important. You must believe in yourself, that you can change your condition, that you can be a better human being. Believe that you can get out of prison and be a good father or mother or husband or wife and be a productive part of your community. You must believe in yourself. Hardly anyone else will.

How you see yourself determines how you see the world and others. Having a strong and clear mental image plays an important part in self-development. How do you see yourself? What is your self-concept? If your conception of yourself isn't strong, do you at least have some notion of the kind of individual you wish to become? Consider these things.

Thoughts are powerful. They create and give new life and can cause death. Never allow fear, anxiety, anger and doubt to run riot in your life and exert rulership over you. Negative thinking will defeat you. Be filled with confidence and optimism that problems will be resolved to your benefit. Have thoughts of patience and fortitude. Clear thinking is the best thinking there is.

Worry is the most senseless use of mental energy. I have seen others worry themselves until they become so overwhelmed that they give up all hope. We should not worry over things we have no control over. A pending appeal, a woman, unruly children at home, the skinhead scene on the streets, etc are things we shouldn't worry about. We have to realize that what is to be will be. You don't want to end-up dependent on some drug like Thorozene for your peace of mind or having some medical problem due to worry. Save yourself a lot of grief. Place focus on the improvement of your mind.

Knowledge is power. There is a vast difference between a learned person and a fool. The more one comes to know the more sensible the person will act. Education is the key. Prison will bestow the precious gift of free time to allow you to obtain knowledge and useful skills. Sublimate your energies toward gaining education and skills that can be used once you are released from prison.

Reading is fundamental.. The slave holders knew that an educated slave wouldn't make a good slave. When you look at the low reading levels of Black, White and Latino working class children and the general condition of mental slavery, we find ourselves in today, it becomes obvious. Valuable knowledge is contained in books. There are books written on every subject. When you desire to know about something, find it in a book. Books can open whole new worlds.

Reading can be a waste of time if you don't know what to read. Books are the plates on which mental food is served. Will you eat a nutritious, well-balanced meal or will it be Mac Donald's? Like looking at a menu, the choice is ours as to what we feed ourselves mentally by what we read.

Education without culture will only make an educated slave. Find the truth of history contained in books. Historical reading is the most rewarding and has a profound effect upon the psyche.

Do a great deal of reading to cultivate your mind. Developing a reading program will help. If you're not a good reader, then keep reading and you will surely improve. Never be intimidated by the number of pages in a book. Start with short books and work your way up. A steady diet of two books a week can't help but improve you.

Your Physical Health


Prison will destroy you physically if you allow it to. It would seem that is its purpose, to make you grow old, run you down, and cause you to suffer from ill-health. Knowing some steps to take a protect your physical being will help you get through prison.

Prison is a dirty place. Most prisons are old. Some date as far back as the civil war period. The drab condition of buildings over-crowding makes prison a fertile environment for pests, rodents and diseases transmitted by human contact

Physical cleanliness is essential. Always be clean and groomed. This is the first step in keeping yourself healthy while in prison. Personal cleanliness enhances self-esteem; plus, it makes a positive statement to others about you.

Concentrate on the total cleanliness of your immediate living environment (bed area, cell, etc.) Always keep dirt and dust to a minimum. Now I'm sure at some point in our lives most of us have had some contact with those "brown cousins" and prisons are full of them. But, learn to be intolerant of roaches. If you roll over and see one crawling up the wall at three in the morning, then get up and kill it! Along with rodents, they carry all kinds of diseases.

Physical contact is nearly impossible to avoid because of the close proximity of others. Probably one of the first things you will realize in prison is that everyone isn't clean. Some people are just downright funky. Besides filthy habits and bad personal odors, common diseases carried by others could range from TB to A.I.D.S. Watch what you touch and never drink or smoke after anyone. If you're in a cell with someone else, then keep a window cracked at all times to maintain an air flow. Avoid constant coughers.

Abstain from the use of cigarettes, coffee and all drugs. Those things are bad for us health-wise. Besides that, you don't want anything that is habit forming, something that you just "gotta' have" the first thing each morning. The use of habitual things robs us of our independence. We need to develop independent thinking for when we get out. Habits stifle growth toward independence.

Food is life. Most food in prison isn't food at all but what I call "filler". It has no real life substance in it and is used to fill your belly and keep you quiet and complacent. It comes canned and dehydrated, then usually gets boiled beyond taste or fried. The meat is usually ground up because of its inferior quality. Lots of potatoes and plenty of pork. Pork is the worst meat for human consumption because it's full of parasites. You'll find that because of the food people in prison suffer from many stomach ailments. As a general rule, eat less and you will be better off.

Fresh air and sunlight is essential to life. If you have access to movement outdoors then stay outside as much as possible, even during the winter months. Get lots of sunshine and breath in as much fresh air as you can. Also, it has been proven that the sun has a positive effect on human emotions and physical health. Physical exercise each day will keep you in good condition and help to relieve stress. One of the best things that we can do is stretch. Stretching keeps the body flexible. Some form of martial art would be beneficial. Prison can be an unpredictable place. Anything could happen, so it's best to keep yourself at ready.

Getting proper rest at night is important. Prison can preserve your youthful features, because you aren't constantly on the go as free persons are. You can walk out of prison not having aged much physically. Proper rest with regular exercise and a good diet will carry you through. Always get a good night's sleep.

Your Spiritual Health


Prison will destroy you spiritually if you allow it to. The experience of being locked-up can make you bitter beyond compassionate feelings for other human beings. You can easily lose what moral values you have in prison. The prevalence of evil and vice inside prison can rob you of your spiritual life if you are unaware. Man is composed of mind, body and spirit (or soul). The three are connected and form life as we know it. We know that mind exists because we think most of the time. We are certain of our bodies because we see it and have the sense of touch. But what about the spirit or soul? When we become better attuned to ourselves we know of its existence, because we "feel" it.

Constant prayer and/or meditation is the essence of spiritual life. It is man's way of calling upon and giving praise to the one great force of all the worlds. Whatever name we choose to call it, be it "Allah~ or "Yahweh" or “karma”, we must know that it is even above names.. Prayer helps us to understand our relationship to Creation and to other human beings. Prayer is the spiritual food that nourishes the human spirit.

Charity is a means of fulfilling our duties to our fellow human beings. If our-Creator is one, then His creation is one as well; therefore, it becomes our duty to act in the welfare of others, to want for others what we wish for ourselves. If we desire peace, security and happiness, then we should always extend those things to others. It is better to give than to receive. There are blessings in giving and, when we give, we will always find that we still always have enough for ourselves. A smile, a kind word, encouragement and a helping hand are all forms of charity.

Fasting is a way of purifying ourselves. By short periods of fasting, we can rid our systems of toxins, develop inner-discipline and focus our attention toward our spiritual selves. Fasting not only places us in contact with our spiritual essence but grants us at least a momentary mastery over the desire for food. It will also grant us an exact understanding of the deprivation that others in the world now suffer daily and evoke feelings of empathy within us.

Pilgrimage is a form of spiritual migration. It is a way of transcending beyond the cell, the fences and walls, those man-made barriers which stand between us and physical freedom. To perform a spiritual migration each day is to know true freedom. We all need a spiritual link to something, be it a church, temple, mosque or a distant place. It would be helpful to have persons in those places who pray daily for our well-being. It is in those directions that we should place our attention and travel spiritually each day.

Each one of us has the right to believe as we choose. Let there be no compulsion in matters of religion. Religion is social. Its purpose is to bring people together before Creation, but most often it divides them. On the other hand, spirituality is personal. It is how we relate to Creation and how we live. Spirituality lies deep within.

[NORAD58]

My avatar was taken in front of Cousin Strawberry's house from the movie Up in Smoke.


FASTERSPIDER dropped some serious knowledge on us just now. However, that Cousin Strawberry's house avatar is really the only thing Im going to remember for a real long time. You rock, dude.

PS-You look like a stoner version of Russell Crowe...no disrespect. :thumbsup:

[biggerbuds1000]

prison in the uk still sucks balls, being locked up 24 hours a day and eatting the shit they serve up and being treated like a little kid is no fun at all,anyone who can say they dont mind prison and think being in there is a joke is a JOKE :rastasmoke:

[shamrok16]

i think you should go do something to get arrested and go to jail, then come back on to your thread in a few months and let us know how it was. experience is gold

[OLDE ENGLISH '800]

jail/prison sucks try to stay out of one unless you have no life and feel like being treated like a caged dog

[Markass]

Monday I got arrested for having 1 gram of marijuana; I went to jail and they put me in with what I would call the peaceful guys who were just doing their time so they can get on with their lives...Was it really that bad? No, but sitting there thinking about being in a place, and not getting to leave..that's the bad part..Oh, and another thing, I'm only 18 and having to piss in front of guys who are two and three times older than me is a bit of an awkward feeling..

I'm not a criminal, the only law I break is smoking marijuana..it sucks I have to go to jail for something like that, but all I can do is be as careful as I can...

[psychocat]

IF anyone has been to jail or even prison could they share thoughts about it?

I can only speak for English prisons but I would advise you to try to stay out of any prison.

Is it like the movies?
Sometimes I suppose.

is it all that bad?
I hated the boredom of it and of course the limitations.

do u 100% have to join agang?
Gang culture doesn't really exist in English prisons like it does in the US but one on one fights happen all the time. I got attacked by a guy with a massive pipe wrench in the workshop . I saw him coming and sidestepped him , I tripped him over and pounced on him while he was face down. I was grabbed from behind by the screws (guards) and I got a kicking from them in solitary as did the other guy. I still have no idea why he attacked but I think I might have told him to fuck off when he asked me for snout (tobacco) the day before.

do ppl get fucked up by other inmates or is that just TV?
Yes, you'd be amazed how inventive cons can be when it comes to weapons.

TV makes it look so fun

If your idea of fun is watching your back 24/7

[StickyfingahZ]

I aint never been in prison or jail,but Once I went to my freinds house and his uncle just got out of prison,he was there for 25 years....he was an old dude,and all he could talk about was how he wished he was back in there with his freinds......talkin about what he would be doing right now if he were there and what they would be havin for dinner...it seemed like he missed being in prison.:wtf:

[psychocat]

I aint never been in prison or jail,but Once I went to my freinds house and his uncle just got out of prison,he was there for 25 years....he was an old dude,and all he could talk about was how he wished he was back in there with his freinds......talkin about what he would be doing right now if he were there and what they would be havin for dinner...it seemed like he missed being in prison.:wtf:

People get institutionalised and can't cope on the outside , they need the regime and the simplicity of not having to think for themselves. It gives responsibility to authoritites , it means no bills to pay , food every day and a lack of social expectations.
For some that's easier than freedom.

[Tony1234567890]

TV makes it look so fun

I've been in both jail (90 days) and in Federal Prison (6 months) and I've done house arrest for a year.

It's not like the movies. It's far more serious and not quite as agressive. Prisoners are separated. They ask your sexual prefrence because gays are kept together. They ask you religion and they try to keep all religious groups together. They go by your offence and if you stole fifty bucks while pick pocketing an old lady you are not going to be bunking with a murderer. Respect EVERYONE, Under estimate NO ONE, and if you are white don't go starting shit with black just because you are white. Make sure the leader of your group has yoru back or else you will be disciplined by your own people. Chill.

You do NOT have to join a gang. Unless that's how you roll. You can't be one of those guys with a shaved head and gang signs tattooed on yoru skull and then expect not to be in a gang. On the flip side you can't be a guy who works for the Geek Squad and then expect to roll up and be with the South Siders eating at their table. Stick to your own the first week. You see somebody who is cool, be cool. You see somebody who is a dick, stay away and don't fuck with him. Lions don't associate with deer, snakes don't hang around and chill with birds. If you're a bird, kick it with the birds and stay clear of the lions. It's a jungle, no shit. YOU DO NEED FRIENDS, but not a gang. if you'er not in a gang, don't join one because you'll be the bitch. LITERALLY!

YES! People get fucked up by other inmates. Not as often as you see on TV. If you're cool and you respect EVERYBODY and if you don't wreak of bitch, you'll be fine. Most people just want to serve their time and get back out there. Most people. be careful, never disrespect ANYBODY unless you are going to back it up with a nice beating and then have the backup to not to get murdered while in the shower or during chow. Chill.

Fun? I'm 6'5" 325lbs and can bench close to 400 pounds. I'm Italian meaning I'm white so I can be in the Wood Pile (whites) yet I'm also dark so I can join with the South Siders (Mexicans) just depends on who I want to roll with. Once you make up your mind, you can't switch and it's got to be done in 5 minutes. I was scared. I cried. Not sleeping with a woman by my side, not kissing my kids, not being able to wake up and drive my Mercedes to the corner store to get a diet coke when ever I felt like and not being able to watch TV, listen to the radio, go out side, take a shit without 50 people watching me, not being able to jerk off when I feel like it, not being able to take a nice hot shower ALONE when you feel like it, not being able to eat when you want, not being able to eat what you want, not being able to eat how much you want, not being able to call yoru friends and go to a drive thru when you're bored, not being able to do anything except sit and think! That's fun?

Bro, if that is your idea of fun then I suggest you go write a note saying "PUT ALL THE MONEY IN A BAG BITCH OR I"LL KILL YOU!" and drop it off at your locak bank. You'll be having fun in no time!

[Htown2007]

Oleg, please dont refer to telling people you got out of prison. Makes you look like a slumb, and its not funny, I cant even get a job now. I got locked up and charged as an audlt at 17, then sent to prison for 3 years, and got out after 2 years, I left on parole after 2 years. At 18 years old it was hell let me tell you. People try and punk you everyday, and just wait untill your about to get out. Thats when they try and get you, so you get yourself in shit and do more time. I got charged with intent to distribute cocaine with posession over an ounce.

[Tony1234567890]

I'm a monster in size and I look very scary. I have a crew cut (#5) and I have a goatee about 5" long. I could pass for Tank Abbot's big Italian Brother. I STILL GOT TREATED LIKE A PUNK! Until I body slamed one guy (about 225), it was a fully straightened arms body smal, more of a "toss" and I was jumped before I got to fly ontop of him. I "earned" my respect and nobody ever messed with me ever again.

I spent six months praying that dude doesn't come stab me during shower/chow/day room.

[psychocat]

I'm a monster in size and I look very scary. I have a crew cut (#5) and I have a goatee about 5" long. I could pass for Tank Abbot's big Italian Brother. I STILL GOT TREATED LIKE A PUNK! Until I body slamed one guy (about 225), it was a fully straightened arms body smal, more of a "toss" and I was jumped before I got to fly ontop of him. I "earned" my respect and nobody ever messed with me ever again.

I spent six months praying that dude doesn't come stab me during shower/chow/day room.

And it isn't just the guy you're watching out for, it's anyone who is associated with him too.

[hubrock]

up here jail, or detention time, is 2 years or less. if you are doing more than 2 years, your doing fed time.

jail is the orange jump suits, nothing to do. prison can be alot better than jail, or alot worse. it can be a good as fishing on a dock, or as bad as 23 hrs a day in a basement cell by yourself.

rape is a risk in prison, but not really in jail.

thanks to the wonders of plea bargains, i havent been past a holding cell. but i got a buddy who is a guard and here is his advice:

do your own time.
dont whistle.
dont let the door slam.
dont rat.

he says if you are a medium sized guy on the outside, you will be a medium sized guy on the inside... and also, there is people iside that have no idea about the code of the street... so by being medium sized and having some idea how the streets work, you will avoid being the obvious target.

[Cannakush]

It's hell... 6 days a week you sit in da same spot... you may come across weed once every 2 weeks... you can't piss in privacy... or shit.... it's hell for real

You can actually come across weed in prison? I didn't know that. Thats pretty crazy.

[Cannakush]

oh yeah , and gay boys in prison get their fuckin head kicked in !!

I thought you said all that fighting was a joke.

[soimzach]

I recently went to jail for a period of 26 hours with my 3 friends for possession of marijuana. It was different than what I expected- you always hear about how mean everyone is. Inside the holding tank we got our own bedroom area- there were four different rooms with four bunks each. Everyone in there was friendly, believe it or not, and just traded stories and sat there bored out of our minds.

It wasn't necessarily the best experience, but all we did was hangout and come off our high together. The legal costs are most definitely the worst part of it all. :(

[SocialDem]

I think its funny how people always go back to the "dont drop the soap" thing. Some prisons and jails now have individual showering to cut down on violence and aggressive homosexuality. Where I was, was petty chill since it was one of the smaller military prisons but it still sucks not having the company of females. Overall, prison sucks but I learned alot. Oh yeah and if any of you do go dont think you're smart by buying body wash, that stuff takes alot longer to pick up.

[budsmoker only]

well i got a dwi and had to go to the holding cells...

it pretty much sucked balls tho...

a cold ass cement room, with cold ass cement seats, and all kinds of people...

the only place to piss was in a corner with a wall about 3 ft high on two sides of it...

the food is real shitty, at 4 in the morning we got some food and it was a fake bologna sandwhich, with frozen orange juice, some old fake oreos, and torilla chips...

then at 8 in the morning we got grinded up fake bologna, and everything else the same...

i got to do a lot of thinking in there tho..

[krazy chino]

I did sum time in juvy its jail for under aged people....but its the same the whole thing sucks especially shower time and taking shits right next to another guy....since i got locked up here in California theres gangs so i did have to fight especially black dudes since i'm hispanic your automatically enemies....i personally have nothing against black people my best friend is black but in there i hated evryone of them....the food is horrible the cells are small and is either too hot or too cold....it gets really boring.....u gotta constantly watch ur back i was ther when i was 16 so i was in ther with 17 and 18 year olds and they were all bigger than me and much harder but i kept my ground and fought back....the worst thing is the fact that U CAN"T GET OUT besides no sex no friends no mommy no weed no burgers no girls at all no privacy no waking up late no freedom

[zihowie]

I got those too. And man oh man is the oatmeal terrible. You have to hoard your salt for days to have some decent tasting grits, as well. But ya, i was just in jail and it sucked balls sitting in the cell for 21 hours. I can only imagine how bad prison is and cant see how (oleg) anyone can aspire to say theyve been in prison

[Reefer Rogue]

Never been arrested, only cautioned once for you guessed it ;) I prefer my freedom so stealth and paranoia is key, paranoia is the highest form of awareness said john lennon. I would hate to go to prison but if i ever do end up there, i'll work out a lot, write a book or some comedy and probably straighten my life out. Hopefully that will never happen, if i didn't smoke weed i'd prob be a cop but i like ganja too much to bow down to laws which are unjust.

[flyingimam]

I prefer my freedom so stealth and paranoia is key, paranoia is the highest form of awareness said john lennon.

yep. cant agree more. I rather live a paranoid look @ my back 24/7 on the streets than in prison. and that is the case for a grower imo.

prisons/jail suck and aint no fun, no matter how u look @ it. I've been into an Iranian prison, but those places due to different characteristics of people in general are far far different from what u have anywhere in west.

they are actually fun to some extent, guard brutaility or brutality for that matter is not all that common at all. and there are a lot of innocent people in there.
people go to jail for a bounced check there so u can tell....

sure there are dangerous people in there as well. but murderors dont get locked up in Iran for too long, they get sent to execution room soon. and in my experience prisons in Iran are in different wards. meaning that a small time drug offender wont be locked up with a rapist or murderer. same with financial crimes... every type of crime depending on seriousness n stuff has its own separate ward.

[seattlesmoke247]

In county jail you're not gonna get raped, nobody is gonna be raping a person who is in for under 2- years... You might get into an arguement, maybe a fight but for most of all people are just tryna do their time and get the fuck out. Shit if you don't smoke ciggerettes, it isn't THAT bad in jail.. A lot of irritable people, because you can't smoke though..

Prison is different, you're with the thugs. They are in there for a reason, they probally aren't the smartest or make the best decisions.. Some are hateful for no reason, and if the wrong person ends up hating you a situation may come of it. Even if you can fight and beat his ass, you know someone in there has got some boys that aren't afraid to put in some work.

I went to juvy when I was 17 after a high speed chase and we ate a bunch of pills.. That was the best time in 'jail' I'll probally ever have, rolling tough with my 7 friends off an entire roll.. Talking about the high speed chase we were just in and how crazy that was [ stupid kids ].. LOL.

I am sitting there and the cop is like 'What color are your eyes, we can't even see tham they're so dialated.'' lol... I remember asking 'will this wart on my finger mess up the prints'

[Gatekeeper777]

Until you see a man with tits suck another mans dick for a pack of Newports you will never realize how fucked up jail is.
Been there, seen it, will NEVER go back.
have seen a kid 18 years old get 340 years and ASS RAPED on his first day. hung himself on his 1st month.
there is a hierarchy in jail.
Murderures are king
drug dealers ect.
Rapists low lifes
child molestors are scum.
Prison is diferant in every state.
Where I am from and when I served my time I did so peacefully and with out GANG interferance.
AND NO I never ran up inside anyone and NEVER had anyone inside me.
Weed was 4 packs of marlboros and was a pinner about the size of a sewing needle.
Psycotropic drugs from the unstable inmates were cheeper and the order of the day.

You dispised calendars and loved the clock, time was all you had.
Money was contraband and there was NO conjecle visits.
Your in prison not a weekend whore house, fucking is a privilage not a right.

[overgrowthegovt]

Shit, I really hope to God I never end up in prison....

I'm 18 years old, white, pretty, and I weigh about 145 pounds. I bet I'd be the #1 piece of ass on everyone's list. No way I'm ever going there.

[stinkyattic]

With all he off-topic drug talk, I think this thread is long enough.
Try to live a peaceful and respectable life; don't put yourself in danger, or on the wrong side of the law. Please.