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RetiredFF
08-08-2007, 06:32 PM
My Afghan is nearing harvest. There are a couple of large buds on the interior of the plant that are mature; the balance of the buds are about 3 weeks out. The plant is in a 10 gallon container. I have been feeding with Jack's classic bloom. Last applied Neem oil 4 days ago. So,
1. Should I cut the two mature buds now and let the others continue to mature, or just wait 3 weeks, and harvest all at once?
2. What's the best way to dry these things?
3. Should I cut off all water a few days prior to harvest when the plaant is finally uprooted?
Any other suggestions would be appreciated. I have attached a couple of photos. Thanks in advance!
stone_sensation
08-08-2007, 07:10 PM
You can cut the buds if you are sure they are mature.
Cut them and hang them in a well ventilated dark space for 5ish days.
Water, I'm not sure it matters, aslong as you've cut nutes.
RetiredFF
08-08-2007, 07:33 PM
Thanks, I'll cut the nutes about a week before harvest. Not sure how long to cut the Neem application since I don't know how long the Neem oil applied to the leaves will affect the taste. I recollect reading somewhere that 3 weeks should be adequate. Cheers!
rocktheganj
08-08-2007, 10:47 PM
dude i have no idea, but i've never harvested before, and i was wondering how does this<img src="http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/basic-growing/151831d1186597699-nearing-harvest-need-advice-more-aug-8-2008-001.jpg"> turn into the stuff you get in a sack from some guy in town?
RetiredFF
08-08-2007, 11:04 PM
LOL. No it's something you eat! It's in the chicory family and consumed widely in Italy.
Dutch Pimp
08-09-2007, 01:08 AM
My Afghan is nearing harvest. There are a couple of large buds on the interior of the plant that are mature; the balance of the buds are about 3 weeks out. The plant is in a 10 gallon container. I have been feeding with Jack's classic bloom. Last applied Neem oil 4 days ago. So,
1. Should I cut the two mature buds now and let the others continue to mature, or just wait 3 weeks, and harvest all at once?
2. What's the best way to dry these things?
3. Should I cut off all water a few days prior to harvest when the plaant is finally uprooted?
Any other suggestions would be appreciated. I have attached a couple of photos. Thanks in advance!
1. The trichomes determine harvest time. (pocket microscope is best)
2. Hang on clothes line, in a dark.cool room. (65-70 degrees, around 50% or less humidity, indirect air flow) 1-2 weeks, mason jars for the final cure.
3. cutting off the water reduces drying time.
enjoy....:thumbsup:
FireTheft
08-09-2007, 03:47 AM
wow, amazing plants....they look a ways away from harvest but really the only way to tell is look at the color of the trichs under a pocket microscope (you can get em for under 20bucks) with such an amazing plant don't blow it by not investing a small price in a pocket scope that you can use over and over again
RetiredFF
08-09-2007, 04:28 PM
The plants are in 10 gallon pots. I do have a pocket microscope, but need to practice a bit with respect to viewing the trichomes. I'll get the hang of it! Thanks.
RetiredFF
08-09-2007, 04:32 PM
The buds are producing in a major way now, and have been for about 4 weeks. The plants were germinated in mid February. They have gone into major production now. I have two white widows that were started in May, and are now about 8' tall. They are also starting to bud aggressively now.
stinkyattic
08-09-2007, 04:33 PM
This thread has been jacked. Now it is cleaned up a bit. Bluntsmokah, you already have enough threads going with that SAME question... grrrrrr
growinkind
08-19-2007, 08:28 AM
that plants r not even close give atleast 2 more weeks maybe even early or mid oct.
peace
growinkind
08-19-2007, 08:29 AM
dont speed it and disappoint urself.
RetiredFF
08-20-2007, 04:53 PM
Here are some updated photos of my girls. I have cut the fertilizer on the Afghan. In two more weeks I will harvest some buds on the lower portion of the plant that are nearly fully mature. The very large and thick buds on the top of the plant can mature for a few more weeks. Is it advisable to reapply fertilizer after I cut the lower buds? Also, the second pic is a shot of the white widows. They are 8' tall now and really starting to develop buds!!!!
twoguysupnorth
08-20-2007, 07:23 PM
no dont apply more fertilizer if you are getting ready to harvest. (which i dont think you are) if you want a sample take a nice bud and thats all. leave the rest to mature. you really do have a little while to go still. wait it will be worth it.
RetiredFF
08-20-2007, 08:12 PM
Thanks. The picture on the left is a bit deceiving; it's a bud about 12" long and 3" thick with lots of leaves. The lower branches on the plant have buds that are almost to the point where they are not getting any larger, and the trichomes are turning golden. My plan was to snip the mature buds, and let the ones (pictured) at the top of the plant continue to grow. I don't need the smoke, but I just wanted to harvest the buds when optimal. This plant was germinated in mid February.
elway07
08-20-2007, 10:05 PM
Seriously, they look like they have a long time to go before harvesting my friend. They look happy and healthy and seem they will produce quite a bit for you if you leave em. Seriously They should be in floer around the 8-9 weeks margin. I have some plants that look as they are at the same point in their life and they have only been in flower like 3-4 weeks.
I would seriously reconsider. They will be a lot bigger than that. How long have they been flowering?
Anyone else... can you help me out here? I may be wrong for that strain, but it looks way too immature. you will have trichomes in different stages in their individual lives as the buds grow. As the buds grow new and MORE thrichomes will grow as well. When the plant ends the life cycle is when you should really be paying attention to the trichs.
IMHO
elway
elway07
08-20-2007, 10:07 PM
yeah after looking again, I am 100% sure that you are not even close to harvest time. Maybe take a picture of the buds you are wanting to harvest, post em and we can help you out..
Here is what a plant looks like when it is close to harvest time
RetiredFF
08-20-2007, 11:02 PM
OK. You guys have convinced me! The plant stays intact. My camera won't do justice to a close picture of the lower buds; otherwise I would post one. I guess I'm just a little impatient. It's been 25 years since I last grew a plant, and have never done it before inside a greenhouse. I'll put the plant back on small doses of fertilizer when watering. Thanks much.
elway07
08-20-2007, 11:11 PM
Your welcome. I am glad that you have decided to let her grow. I know about impatience... We all get excited. How long has she been flowering for? That way we can help you on harvest times etc..
good luck,
Elway
RetiredFF
08-20-2007, 11:45 PM
Shame on me for not recording this, but I believe she started to flower in earnest around mid June 1. So, that's about 8 weeks.
elway07
08-21-2007, 12:44 AM
Is she outdoors/ indoors what kind os lights etc... give me more info if you can....
twoguysupnorth
08-21-2007, 02:02 AM
elway how did you pull that off? all tied together? retired, they look like they should at 3-4 weeks of flowering you will probably want to go to at least 7wks and maybe 8.
elway07
08-21-2007, 03:55 AM
twoguys- No I don't grow it all tied together. It has 6 main colas and when in the grow romm it is kinda sprawled out so that the smaller colas get just as much attention. To be honest with you, I am quite surprised at how well she is growing and how much she has on her, but I feel blessed. To take her out and water her, I have to tie all her colas up together because they are very very heavy and will probably snap without having some sort of support.
I did a different topping on her than I did others for an experiment and I will say that is worked very very well. I do not think I have had such a yield from a single plant. Actually I know that I haven't. Her Veg stage was a bit longer but well well worth it I would say!
I haven't harvested her yet. I will check trich's tomorrow again.. I am guessing a few more days maybe 5...
FireTheft
08-21-2007, 02:41 PM
looking good just make sure you stop all nutes 10-14 days before harvest and then FLUSH!
otherwise you'll have nasty tasting stuff....nice work!
RetiredFF
08-21-2007, 03:25 PM
Elway, the plants are in a greenhouse. Central coast. All are planted in 10 gallon containers. 4 Afghans and two white widows. Didn't intend to grow this many, but only two of the seeds turned out to be male. Don't know what I am going to do with it all. Xmas gifts for all!!! The only real problem has been with mites. I have it controlled now. Used neem oil every 3 days for two weeks. I am keeping a close eye on the plants and will spot treat any leaves that show signs of re-investation. If the widows get any taller, they are going to grow right through the roof vents!
elway07
08-21-2007, 07:23 PM
Wow... you need to take pictures of all your plants and post em. I am interested in seeing them now! LOL I have always wanted to grow WW after I smoked it in amsterdam but It smelly! If you keep em going you are going to have one hell of a lot of bud!!! I will be following this until they are done. We need more pics though to help you out mate!!!
pics! pics! pics! LOL
Well you have them in big enough containers. Good for you! I can tell you that it is a pain to have to repot a tree of a plant. I just did it a couple weeks ago. NOT FUN Keep up with the neem oil VERY important! I wish I could be there to help you! LOL
what kind of soil are you using and nutes at what regimen?
RetiredFF
08-21-2007, 07:50 PM
You're going to cringe. I used Orchard Supply potting soil! At first I supplemented with fish emulsion. Now I am using Jack's Classic Blossom Booster (10-30-20). I use 1/8 teaspoon per gallon of water. Each plants get a gallon of water about every other day. Temperature in the greenhouse is about 85 during the day, and drops to about 55 to 60 at night. I'll take a pic of the widows for you.
elway07
08-21-2007, 09:30 PM
FF...ok , here is some advice to you. On your watering try something new. This is something I learned in my first few grows. If they are in 10 gallon buckets, you need to give them more water on the days you water. Just watering to where water comes out is not enough. You need to water them with enough water/nutes that you flush out the old stuff from your last feedings. It helps give ALL fresh nutes and water and clears otherwise good chances of having buildups in your soil. In a ten gallon bucket, I would push at least 4-5 gallons through it each time then water again ONLY when the soil is DRY. cannabis Needs WET AND DRY PERIODS. Every other day is too much unless it is real dry. If you put a lot of water through them as suggested you will not have to water as much probably (unless it is REAL dry in your green house) and your plants will be thanking you for the refreshment. Make your gallons as you normally do with your nutes and ph balanced water and push em through. I have a 5 gallon bucket and some two gallons. On the 5 I push 4 gallons per watering/feeding and 2 gallons on the 2 gallon buckets.
Also what is the recommended strength on the bottle of your nutes? As far as the soil, if it's not killing them, hey can't bitch at you! LOL
Good luck,
Elway
RetiredFF
08-21-2007, 11:23 PM
For Jack's Classic Bloom, they recommend 1/4 tsp per gallon at each watering or 1/2 tsp per gallon every other week. I was using half the recommended dose (1/8 tsp per gallon) with every watering. The white widows are the ones that seem to dry out the fastest. The shade leaves really start to droop after two days and the soil is dry. These plants are about 8' tall now. I'll give your method a try.
elway07
08-22-2007, 02:08 AM
Yeah I was thinking that if you water as I said, they may actually get a bit more nutes as well. They are yellowing from the pics that you showed me. I think you need to up your nute dosage actually getting it to the recommended dosage. They are lacking nitrogen! i would increase it to 3/4 the recommended dose instead of half. If after that they show no adverse effects like nute burn (which I do not think they will), increase to the full recommended dosage after a couple of feedings/waterings in between. (to give them time to adjust to the upgrade)
ONE VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION:
Do you have a PH kit? If so what is the ph of your water/food before you give it?
By using my method, I think your plants will be a lot happier. You may or may not have to water as much. Seeing that they are 8' tall and in a 10 gallon bucket (which is just fine) they have a lot of roots in there which do not retain moisture like a lot of soil would. Even if, continue to water as I said and increase those nutes.. I think they will become a lot happier and greener!
I can't wait to see. Don't worry though, I will be here to help you along if you run into a snag. I think that we will just be able to celebrate happier plants though.
Good luck,
Elway
RetiredFF
08-22-2007, 03:59 AM
Thanks again. Tomorrow I will begin the new technique. I'll be sure to get before and after photos for you. Oh, I do have a Ph kit, but I think it is pretty inadequate. Also, I have not tested the Ph of my water. I'll be more prepared next season! I'll be purchasing some quality equipment later this year.
elway07
08-22-2007, 05:50 AM
Wait...woooahhh You HAVEN"T been testing the ph of your water?? What kind of ph kit do you have?? That is up there with THE MOST important part of growing... Seriously getting one now is not too late.. They are not that expensive get a simple kit from General hydroponics from your local hydro store. It comes with everything you need. PH up and down, tester solution and a plastic container to put your water in to test it before you put it in the soil. You want to see a huge difference in your plants, that is the FIRST place to start!
Dutch Pimp
08-22-2007, 01:52 PM
...a cheap moisture meter is handy too...couple of bucks at Walmart....:smokin:...
RetiredFF
08-22-2007, 03:07 PM
Elway and Dutch, I tested the PH of the water. It's between 7.6 and 7.7
RetiredFF
08-22-2007, 07:40 PM
OK now I am ready to decrease the PH level of the water. 3 drops per gallon will take it down to 6.9. I have read that the ideal PH for pot is slightly acidic, at about 6. What do you guys recommend?
1. Should I take the PH of the water down all at once?
2. What PH level do you recommend?
3. Can I add the fertilizer to the adjusted water the first time or should I wait until the second watering?
elway07
08-22-2007, 08:02 PM
FF- This is what you do. Well, what I do anyway and have never had ANY problems. Well, once in a couple years.. Anyway. Get the gallon jugs out that you will be using to water your plants. Measure out your nutes (ferts) and put it in, add whatever else (molasses or whatever) fill it up halfway with water, give it a good shake, then fill it up all the way. Check and balance your ph as needed. Do it for all the water you feed. You will be able to get to a point to know exactly what you will need for the right ph, but always test it anyway just to make sure....
as far as the ph, the lower it is, the more nutes you baby will take up but as you know it will lockout if it is too low. 5.8-6.3 is pretty good. I personally ph it to 6-6.3
EVERYTHING that you put into your plants soil needs to be ph balanced!! And remember, more gallons are better than less! Seriously. Good luck and get back to me..
Elway
RetiredFF
08-22-2007, 08:08 PM
OK, balance the ph of the water after I add the nutes to the water. Makes sense! Thanks.
elway07
08-22-2007, 08:15 PM
Your welcome. Remember to flush a few of those nuted, and balanced gallon jugs through!! Did you get a new ph kit??
RetiredFF
08-22-2007, 08:20 PM
I borrowed one. Trying to decide what kind of PH kit to get. I was looking at the Milwauke units. Discovered that we have a major hyponics store locally. They recommended another brand. It's less costly. They recommended to test the water going in and coming out. I thought that I needed to test the soil. A unit with a probe should do both.
elway07
08-22-2007, 09:46 PM
I have never tested my soil...Because I water so much when I do, I know that I am flushing out any buildups when I water. I know that when I am done watering, the only thing in there is ph balanced water, nutes and molasses or whatever I have added. Seriously the best thing to get underneath a PH pen (expensive) is General Hydroponics kit. As I said earlier in one of my posts, it's inexpensive and works great. I also like that the bigger bottles of Ph uo and Ph down and the solution itself for refills later on are also inexpensive. I always look in the long run for cost effectiveness. If you run 5-6 gallons through those buckets, your soil and runoff ph will be just as you put in it in the first place. By doing it that way (a lot of water at a time) literaaly is preventing a lot of issues in the future as well as giving your plant FRESH nutes and water each time. Otherwise it gets some of what you put in and some of what was leftover, then the two combined will change your soil ph and could potentially cause lockouts and burns etc..
I honestly think that if you just flush a lot of water through with balanced water and nutes, all the other will be fine. At least it has with me and I have been doing it that way since shortly after I began growing. I don't test soil ph nor do I test runoff water and my plants are extremely healthy. I also baby them and spend a lot of time with them. After you have been growing a bit, you will begin to be able just to listen to them and know by looking at them, exactly what they need or don't need. I know it sounds weird, but it's true. Keep me informed, and let me know how it all is working out.
Good luck,
elway
RetiredFF
08-22-2007, 10:36 PM
Elway, I just spent 3 hours flushing the plants. We'll see what happens. Here's a pic of one of the widows. Thanks again 4 your help!
elway07
08-22-2007, 11:02 PM
Holy Shit m8 I absolutely cannot wait to see your yield! That is freaking amazing. How many plants do you have in all? how many that size? You are going to have to fed ex me some of your final and I will send you some grapefruit!! Wouldn't that be nice.
Anyway, you are welcome! Anything I can do to help out. When I was new on here. and had questions I had someone that held my hand a long so all I can do is give it back. That is what this community is for!
I am sure your plants are thanking you! do you feel better?
RetiredFF
08-23-2007, 12:00 AM
I am considering a change of fertilizers. Jack's Classic is very good and is recommended on many sites. It has one drawback, there is no calcium. I have relatively soft water here, so I need to supplement the calcium. If I can find some chelated calcium, that will work as well. Otherwise, I'll switch products. BTW, where do I ship to??? :)
elway07
08-23-2007, 12:10 AM
we can talk about the shipping stuff later. as far as Nutes... I recommend what I use and you will find it at your hydro store Fox Farms grow big for veg and Fox FarmsTiger bloom for flowering stage.( contains calcium nitrate in it) It also contains micro nutes ect. You can also buy a bag of dolomite lime or Garden lime (same thing) for calcium and mag. It also works as a ph buffer in the soil Just grab a small handful and sprinkle it on top of your soil before you water next. In the future you can mix a bit in with your soil when you are potting.
BTW check out my thread when you get the chance, I have posted some bud pics. See what you think..
Good luck,
Elway
RetiredFF
08-23-2007, 03:18 AM
Yah, I have the dolomite lime already. Unfortunately it is absorbed very slowly. I ground some up to a powder and soaked it in water, then applied in a foliar spray. Not sure if it is working though. Fortunately, the local store has the products you have recommended. I was surprised at the extent of their inventory. But then, this is California! Now, let me look for your thread!
elway07
08-23-2007, 03:51 AM
foliar spray? bad Idea! I tried that and it fucked up my plants and leaves. I would stick to the soil m8
elway07
08-23-2007, 04:00 AM
BTW the pics are on the second page...
RetiredFF
08-24-2007, 08:47 PM
Well here we go. Just acquired a digital PH tester, and a gallon of Tiger Bloom. The molasses was already here. I'm going to do a side by side comparison of the Tiger Bloom and the Jack's Classic Bloom Booster. I'll keep you folks posted.
RetiredFF
08-24-2007, 10:42 PM
Elway, How many teaspoons of Tiger Bloom are you pushing per gallon?
elway07
08-24-2007, 10:48 PM
Awesome! congrats. It's always fun to get new stuff for the babies!
elway07
08-24-2007, 10:54 PM
Right now, I am using 2 tsp per gallon, but I had to work up to that. Maybe start with 1.5 Tsps and make sure they handle that. Seeing the plants are so large.. they will probably handle more.... But start with 1.5, then move to two. I think the directions say between 2-3 tsps per gallon?? and your BIG plants will probably need that but start small so you don't accidentally burn them...
On mine, I started with 1 moved to 1.5 then to two.. That's all they can handle I can tell by looking at them.. At the same time though, mine are a lot smaller than yours.
Maybe Stinky will be able to help you as well and we can figure out what's probably best for your plants together..... I have never grown anything so large
Dr. Bloor
08-25-2007, 12:03 AM
Those WW are amazing. I was allowed access to their sanctum sanctorum earlier today. Wonderful smell and those afghans are nothing to sneeze at either!
elway07
08-25-2007, 12:30 AM
Wow! in Napolean Dynamite's words " LUCKY"! I wish I lived close. But be careful who you let know where you live FF. I am not saying that your a bad guy DB... I am sure you are just fine! it's just that some people just should not know where you live when you have a hobby such as this!!
Can't wait for the updates!!
RetiredFF
08-25-2007, 01:32 AM
Thanks Elway! The ladies will not get their fix until Monday. That watering I gave them on Wednesday will hold them until at least Monday. Your admontion of keeping this project private is wise. Dr. Bloor is my personal phyisician, and has been a family friend for many years. Have a good weekend. Be back in a couple of days.
elway07
08-25-2007, 03:05 AM
Oh no I figured you knew him, I was just saying out loud to you and whomever else reads it. That's all. cheers. Let me know how they look after getting a nice flush! different? better? see ya later!
RetiredFF
08-28-2007, 08:49 PM
Hey ALL! Had to perform an emergency C-section on my late term Afghan. I observed a small amount of bud rot developing on two of the massive top buds. I excised that portion of the affected area. Not much involved, probably lost about 1/16 of dried bud. Saved at least 1 oz of dried bud. I don't see any other signs of further rot. I have the fan running in the GH all day. I'll keep a close eye on the situation. I think one of the problems is that this plant has such tight buds, that there is not much circulation in the bush. The many shade leaves are masking the enormous isize of these buds. One week, maybe two, and it's coming out! BTW It's so sticky that I couldn't pull my fingers apart!
alwaysduinthadope
08-28-2007, 10:25 PM
what part of california do u live at like by sac?i know many people including myself who would love sum WW and afgan:jumphappy:
RetiredFF
08-29-2007, 04:18 AM
Sorry Always, this grow is merely an in-house project.
FireTheft
08-29-2007, 04:32 AM
always you shouldn't even hint or allude at wanting to buy from someone....send a PM for that.........
retiredFF that plant is amazing! its like jack and the beanstalk....gonna post any pics of your buds/yield?
RetiredFF
08-29-2007, 04:50 AM
Fire, yah I will post some pics later. The WW is kicking it into full gear! I will have to borrow a camera that will do it justice. My digital isn't good for zooming in. Just carried the Afghan into the house where the humidity is much lower. I didn't realize just how fragant she is! She's also fucking heavy!
elway07
08-29-2007, 04:53 AM
i can't wait for pics!
Dr. Bloor
08-29-2007, 05:31 AM
Thanks Elway! The ladies will not get their fix until Monday. That watering I gave them on Wednesday will hold them until at least Monday. Your admontion of keeping this project private is wise. Dr. Bloor is my personal phyisician, and has been a family friend for many years. Have a good weekend. Be back in a couple of days.
As your physician I prescribe a well shaken manhattan followed by a nicely packed bowlful. Dr. Bloor
RetiredFF
08-29-2007, 04:38 PM
I always follow my doctor's advice! FYI: Several days ago I inadvertently snapped off a small bud of the WW while crawling through that forest. Well, this was one of those rare mornings that I decided to smoke a little. So I fired the WW. All I can say Is FUCK!
HighTillIDie
08-29-2007, 04:58 PM
I always follow my doctor's advice! FYI: Several days ago I inadvertently snapped off a small bud of the WW while crawling through that forest. Well, this was one of those rare mornings that I decided to smoke a little. So I fired the WW. All I can say Is FUCK!
so you smoked and now the only word that will come out of your mouth, is the word "fuck"....
amazing, i would associate that with brain damage before the ganja, but if you say it is some good shit i will trust ya :rastasmoke:
RetiredFF
08-29-2007, 06:05 PM
High, I'm sure there was brain damage before the ganja, but none sufficient to impare my judgement of good weed!
Dutch Pimp
08-29-2007, 11:04 PM
...say what you must, about other strains...but the Widow RULES...:jointsmile:
RetiredFF
08-30-2007, 12:40 AM
Dutch, This is the first time I've grown it, and the first time for Afghan as well. The WW is so profumatic that when I walk buy it or brush against it, I get a head rush! Can't wait to bring it to fruition! I'll soon start carrying those gals indoors at night to prevent excessive hudity exposure. No easy task since they are 2 feet over my head!
Stealth331
08-30-2007, 01:00 AM
I read this entire thread and all I can say is amazing.
Good luck with the bud rot. Hope you have it under control.
Going to have a shot @ it soon myself and it's cool to see how all of you do it and your various techniques and tips...
Thanks!
Dutch Pimp
08-30-2007, 01:18 AM
Dutch, This is the first time I've grown it, and the first time for Afghan as well. The WW is so profumatic that when I walk buy it or brush against it, I get a head rush! Can't wait to bring it to fruition! I'll soon start carrying those gals indoors at night to prevent excessive hudity exposure. No easy task since they are 2 feet over my head!
...once inside...the darker...the better.
When I grew WW inside, I didn't have room for 13 plants under my 400HPS...so I rotated 6/7 under the light the whole flowering cycle, 60+ days, from dark room to light room (every 12 hours). It was a lot of work, but I will probably do it again next grow....:greenthumb:
RetiredFF
08-30-2007, 03:40 PM
Dutch, that is labor intensive! Since this is greenhouse growing, I will utilize passive ventilation as well as an exhaust fan. Size permitting, I'll move the plants into the house at night. Next year, I'll emplyee a dehumidifier.
RetiredFF
08-30-2007, 11:48 PM
Took all the girls out of the greenhouse today for a straight shot of water and molasses. This was no easy task due to their size and weight. Anyway, I ended up testing the PH going in and the PH coming out. Without any adjustment:
PH in = 7.3
PH out = 4.5
The plants are about 3 weeks from harvest, and showing some magnesium deficiency. Other than that, they are in good health and budding vigorously. I thought that I would get some PH Up and raise the PH going in to 8.3. What do you think? Tinker or just let it be?
Dutch Pimp
08-31-2007, 01:13 AM
...not sure about tinkering with Ph now...but I always included in the normal watering a pinch of epsom salt for mag. during flowering, about once a week.
Dr. Bloor
09-01-2007, 02:25 AM
I have some cal -mag if needed
RetiredFF
09-01-2007, 05:59 PM
I used some epsom salts. Here's a pic taken today.
Dr. Bloor
09-02-2007, 01:49 AM
Heading out the roof! I had to move a Juicy Fruit off the bench today. The fan was in a decapitation mode. Warm today
RetiredFF
09-02-2007, 03:22 PM
Time to remodel the greenhouse! On another matter, was debating with myself last night as to whether to cut the fertilizer on the widows. The left side of my brain won; they get one more shot of Tiger! P.S. Tried a bit of the homemade hash that I extracted via Everclear. Way surpassed my expectation!
RetiredFF
09-06-2007, 06:15 PM
Here are some pics taken today. Maybe a week or so to go!
BUZz UK
09-06-2007, 08:58 PM
wow, they're really fat now.
Maybe a couple more weeks...
Have you checked the trichomes yet?
RetiredFF
09-06-2007, 09:16 PM
Buzz. Checked them this morning. They are about 90% cloudy w/ a few starting to take on an amber hue. It's getting close. I want them to fully developed and swollen, but have to pay close attention to the possibility of bud rot. Have a fan going 24/7.
BUZz UK
09-06-2007, 09:33 PM
A week sounds about right then, depending on what you want it to smoke like. Nice greenhouse grow by the way, is it getting damp in there now?
RetiredFF
09-06-2007, 09:55 PM
Yah, the humidity at night can approach 80%. I keep the fan going, and that seems to help. Also the watering is done with a basin under the plants so that run-off can be removed. The bud rot was a problem with an Afghan that I harvested last week. The buds were huge and very tight. I caught the problem early and only lost a very small amount of bud.
Dr. Bloor
09-07-2007, 07:13 AM
Let me tell you those buds are very very good!
RetiredFF
09-07-2007, 03:38 PM
Let me tell you those buds are very very good!
Ah, but you sampled the Afghan, these are the White widows!
elway07
09-08-2007, 02:17 PM
sorry I have been away but looking damn good. It seems like everything we discussed has come along nicely! Congrats.
elway07
09-08-2007, 02:21 PM
Also, water going in... That seems real alkaline. I ph my stuff to no higher than 6.5 going in!
PharmaCan
09-08-2007, 03:01 PM
Time to remodel the greenhouse! On another matter, was debating with myself last night as to whether to cut the fertilizer on the widows. The left side of my brain won; they get one more shot of Tiger! P.S. Tried a bit of the homemade hash that I extracted via Everclear. Way surpassed my expectation!
I read this post about five times trying to figure out how in the fuck you were going the cut the fertilizer on the wiNdows. :jointsmile:
Must have been the bowl of Widow I smoked earlier. :stoned:
I get some Widow plants that finish earlier than others, even though they are from the same mother. The photo below is one that finished in 42 days. Riddle me that, potman? :wtf:
My Widows love molasses with Sweet. It really builds the buds.
PC :smokin:
RetiredFF
09-08-2007, 04:45 PM
I read this post about five times trying to figure out how in the fuck you were going the cut the fertilizer on the wiNdows. :jointsmile:
Must have been the bowl of Widow I smoked earlier. :stoned:
I get some Widow plants that finish earlier than others, even though they are from the same mother. The photo below is one that finished in 42 days. Riddle me that, potman? :wtf:
My Widows love molasses with Sweet. It really builds the buds.
PC :smokin:
PharmaCan, that must be some strong shit!!!
RetiredFF
09-08-2007, 04:49 PM
Also, water going in... That seems real alkaline. I ph my stuff to no higher than 6.5 going in!
Elway, I did adjust the water going in to 6.0. But then I tested the water coming out, and it was at 4.5. I think at this point, I'm not going to worry too much about the PH since the plants are so close to harvest. However, I know now what I need to do for next year. Thanks and welcome back!!
elway07
09-08-2007, 08:52 PM
thanks. As I was saying to you earlier in this thread. If you water with larger amounts of water and ph it to about 6- 6.5. You should be fine. I NEVER HAVE tested my runoff or my soil. My plants have been extremely healthy doing it as I have been. Good luck and we will talk more before next time. YOU MUST post photos and stuff (excited) from your harvest. "I wanna see, I wanna see!!":D
Dr. Bloor
09-09-2007, 06:17 AM
I will say that the Afghan was way to good. I thought I grew some nice Afghan! Ha, this Afghan is so potent! A small bit in a Volcano and wowie zowie!! Nice stuff.
And the next crop coming in is the white widows and juicy fruit which have already ruined me.!
And this is a little girl!
Dr. Bloor
09-09-2007, 06:18 AM
I wonder why juicy fruit is not out there more?
RetiredFF
09-09-2007, 06:34 PM
Dr. Bloor, I was out of the cannabis culture for too long. All these new strains are a wonderment! I want to grow them all!!!! P.S. I'm trying to be very patient and let those widow buds ripen fully. Oh so close now!!!
RetiredFF
09-09-2007, 07:22 PM
Here's a pic taken this morning of a white widow bud.
Dr. Bloor
09-10-2007, 04:05 AM
Ah, but you sampled the Afghan, these are the White widows!
I just had another sample of the Afghan. With just a touch of juicy fruit I had brought in microscopic inspection. Oh Dear!
Dr. Bloor
09-10-2007, 04:06 AM
Those really are such amazing plants.
Dr. Bloor
09-10-2007, 04:08 AM
Juicy Fruit. The little devils! That was a helluva bonus seed!
RetiredFF
09-10-2007, 04:34 PM
Are you feeding the Juicy Fruit molasses? If so, what is the concentration? May head to the hydro store todayto acquire some Sweet. It's probably too late for the Widow's, but it may yet be helpful to the remaining Afghans.
Dr. Bloor
09-12-2007, 04:55 AM
No Molasses yet. I think they are still sometime from harvest. They are just getting the fertilizer solutions I have been playing with. The plant on the right is getting the Hawaiian Bud & Bloom. I was looking at trics again and still to clear. I am looking for darker, per the boss here.
BUZz UK
09-12-2007, 11:41 AM
You can start with the molasses now. It can be fed to the plants all through flowering.
RetiredFF
09-15-2007, 06:35 PM
Here are a couple of pics of the top buds from one of the White Widows. Pretty good for a first time grow! Thanks to all of you for your help.
highallthetime
09-15-2007, 06:45 PM
Don't cut them yet , let them go for another 2 - 3 weeks minimum .
You have to let the buds get FAAAAT !!
Good luck :thumbsup:
RetiredFF
09-15-2007, 11:03 PM
Don't cut them yet , let them go for another 2 - 3 weeks minimum .
You have to let the buds get FAAAAT !!
Good luck :thumbsup:
Too late High. I harvested the the two widows and two Afghans this morning. I was beginning to have some bud rot problems with the Afghans, and I did not want to risk this problem spreading to the widows. Those particular buds were 18" long and actually quite thick. The climate here can be quite humid, and I think the Afghans are more prone to the bud rot problem.
Dr. Bloor
09-16-2007, 04:28 AM
You can start with the molasses now. It can be fed to the plants all through flowering.
I think will start some molasses tomorrow!
Dr. Bloor
09-16-2007, 04:29 AM
Here are a couple of pics of the top buds from one of the White Widows. Pretty good for a first time grow! Thanks to all of you for your help.
What sweet nice girls!!
Dr. Bloor
10-06-2007, 03:27 AM
And they are so sweet!
Dr. Bloor
10-19-2007, 07:13 AM
That Afghan is just so killer. Dr. Bloor
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