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kdspecial
08-08-2007, 02:53 AM
Clones in All Coco looking pretty Bad (I cut them too small) but they'll come back.... If not I have a pretty nice mother to get some more. bigger cuttings.

The lowryder is getting very close I just flushed Her with a solution.

I been feeding the clones pretty well cuz they seem liked they needed it.

As well adding MagiCal micro supp. for one feeding so far.

All at just over 1/4 strength////

First time in Coco that I have actully let the plants live this long. Usually I have scrapped the project and started again in proMix. To save time and hurt :(. But im determined :thumbsup: this time as a few tomatoe plants I have on my balcony have grown so nice in Coco.

Coco make me :stoned::stoned::stoned::stoned::stoned:

im bizaked... Pure stinky blueberry :hippy::hippy:

kdspecial
08-08-2007, 02:55 AM
And the Mother N Lowryder...

Matt the Funk
08-08-2007, 03:02 AM
Nice. Are those all in the same cab?

PharmaCan
08-08-2007, 03:29 AM
Did you root the clones in the rockwool in a dome or did you just put rockwool in coco then cutting in rockwool?

If it's the latter, I would use your mister to moisten the coco around the rockwool cube. Coco does "moist" really well.

Do you have good drain holes in your pots? Coco needs to be flooded with about 10% runoff.

Coco is fun to grow in. You just have to remember, it only looks like soil - but it's actually hydro, so you hafta get a dro Zen going but once that's in sinc, it's really a fun medium to grow in - almost idiot proof.

Good luck! :thumbsup:

PC :smokin:

kdspecial
08-08-2007, 04:24 AM
Did you root the clones in the rockwool in a dome or did you just put rockwool in coco then cutting in rockwool?

If it's the latter, I would use your mister to moisten the coco around the rockwool cube. Coco does "moist" really well.

Do you have good drain holes in your pots? Coco needs to be flooded with about 10% runoff.

Coco is fun to grow in. You just have to remember, it only looks like soil - but it's actually hydro, so you hafta get a dro Zen going but once that's in sinc, it's really a fun medium to grow in - almost idiot proof.

Good luck! :thumbsup:

PC :smokin:

I rooted the clones in Rockwell then put them into my Coco.

I dont; think I can soak all that Coco it will take forever for it to dry and my plants will stay waterlogged wont they?

I know your not supposed to let Coco dry out ever, So Add as I need to. Once they are bigger I will be able to soak the whole pot down no problems.

Or should I soak the sukers down now? hmmm I didn't do the runoff thing with my tomatoes outside. they turend out preety well.

kdspecial
08-08-2007, 04:26 AM
Nice. Are those all in the same cab?


yes they are all in the same Cab... 2 compartments.

kd

PharmaCan
08-08-2007, 04:36 AM
I dont; think I can soak all that Coco it will take forever for it to dry and my plants will stay waterlogged wont they?



You need to start thinking dro, not soil. Coco is an inert medium, it has zero nutritional value. Your nutes come only from your water solution. When you water, you want to flush the old solution out of the container and fill it with fresh nutrients in a well aereated liquid.

...but coco with no drain holes :( I don't know :wtf: we may just need an intervention here. :D

PC :thumbsup:

kdspecial
08-08-2007, 10:10 AM
...but coco with no drain holes :( I don't know :wtf: we may just need an intervention here. :D

PC :thumbsup:

I have drain holes as well as like 30 to 40% perlite in there, SO today when I water Looks like Ill be giving them a good solid drink.

kd

kdspecial
08-08-2007, 12:09 PM
I gave them a big Big drink this morrning.

Man I will go through way more nutrients and faster if this is the norm for Coco. :(

But If they grow anything like my Tomatoes Ill be in for some big ass Buds....:thumbsup:

I have one tomatoe plant that is close to 6 feet tall in a half gallon pot in Coco. It is by far the best plant I have ever grown, Hurra for Coco,,, hopefully I can bring that luck inside for my MaryJ

thanks for all the help and comments guys and Gals...
kd

stinkyattic
08-08-2007, 01:20 PM
Another hint with coco, don't EVER let it dry out entirely- it will start acting REALLY tweaky.
Looking good- those clones look fine to me, a little deficient, but you will fix that next week when you start feeding them. A mist with GH Micro at half the suggested strength will be good then.

kdspecial
08-08-2007, 10:09 PM
Yeah Like I said I gave them a nice drink this morrning,, 1/4 strength nutes and 1/2 micro supp With water run off and all I wonder what they will look like when I get home.

I will say one thing with the Coco so far is I have seen very very fast new growth and root growth, I swapped one clone out for a healither one I had and its roots had already stretched all over the pot, I was pretty surprised.

Thanks for the help everyone. Ill be posting the results in a weeks time. Everyone can watch me learn how to do a Coco Grow.

Just so everyone knows, I added Dolomite lime to my Coco. I did it to my outside balcony tomatoe plants when I mixed their coco I and have yet to have to ever check PH Or Ph my Tap water.

So I did it to these indoor plants as well. 30ml of lime per gallon of medium. Well see if that ends up hurtiung me in the end. hahahahahahaha I used to be all Hard on Ph and stuff but im finding myslef getting kinda lazy in that department. I have to break out the meter.. the Ph up/Down etc its just a pain in my ass... But It is important so I will be doing it often with theis coco stuff as I can tell its a bit more important. (well ist really always important)

thanks again Ya'll

kd

kdspecial
08-14-2007, 03:30 AM
6 days difference.... Its looking pretty decent... Runoff Ph was 6.2 (Ph'd water to 6.8Ph) which I think may be a little low with even with Coco. So next time they'll get A bit higher of a Ph perhaps 7.0Ph.

Im impressed with myself.. the watering is actully really nice it suks that you have to give them so much (for me it was 2.5 times more water) but I don't have to water for like 5 days thats a real bonus for me since watering is a real pain in my rinky dink apartment.:(

kd:thumbsup:

stinkyattic
08-14-2007, 02:12 PM
KD that is actually not too low for coco- think of it as a hydro hybrid technique, lol. The pH range is lower tahn for soil.

PharmaCan
08-14-2007, 02:40 PM
6 days difference.... Its looking pretty decent... Runoff Ph was 6.2 (Ph'd water to 6.8Ph) which I think may be a little low with even with Coco. So next time they'll get A bit higher of a Ph perhaps 7.0Ph.

Im impressed with myself.. the watering is actully really nice it suks that you have to give them so much (for me it was 2.5 times more water) but I don't have to water for like 5 days thats a real bonus for me since watering is a real pain in my rinky dink apartment.:(

kd:thumbsup:

I use hydro pH for my coco (around 5.7). If you take at look at the propaganda Canna products puts out, they claim that it is useless to measure the pH of coco runoff - they didn't say why, only that it is a meaningless exercise and indicative of nothing. :wtf:

Coco should be watered daily. There's one coco grower I know who waters his plants five times per day. It amazes me that you can go five days between waterings. I would think your coco would have been bone dry for days by then.

PC :smokin:

duckfool
08-15-2007, 04:35 AM
Coco should be watered daily. There's one coco grower I know who waters his plants five times per day. It amazes me that you can go five days between waterings. I would think your coco would have been bone dry for days by then.

PC :smokin:

I don't believe that is true. Coco only needs to be watered as often as is neccessary to keep it from drying out. The larger the container, the less frequent the waterings. Ideal coco feeding pH is 5.4 to 6.5. Measuring its runoff is useless because regardless of what you put in, you'll tend to get the same pH runoff (at least with Canna brand coco).

kdspecial
08-15-2007, 04:39 AM
thanks for the Tips.....

yeah my Coco says wet really long. My plants arn't that big yet. so there not drinkin' too too much water. when I see the top of the Coco start to dry I water. When they get bigger and fuller I will be watering more frequently.

For me unfrotunatly watering everyday would be too much hassle. Im using Cfls and AC so its not getting very hot in the Box at all.

Thanks guys and Gals...
kd

kdspecial
08-15-2007, 04:42 AM
I don't believe that is true. Coco only needs to be watered as often as is neccessary to keep it from drying out. The larger the container, the less frequent the waterings. Ideal coco feeding pH is 5.4 to 6.5. Measuring its runoff is useless because regardless of what you put in, you'll tend to get the same pH runoff (at least with Canna brand coco).

Awsome thanks man.... I added Dolomite lime to mine (Grow shop guys recomendation) .. I used GroTek Coco, It seems nice and clean. Its not the brick format, Comes in a BAg says rinsed.

Hopefully the lime doesn't keep raising the Ph too much... I did 30ml Per Gallon Of Coco.

im using Batanicare pro NUtes, And Bio-Gensis synergy, High Tide.


thanks DukFool

kd

kdspecial
08-20-2007, 02:40 AM
6 more days....

I still get the odd leaf that doesn't grow properly. I've looked well for bugs but i can't see any. besides that they look pretty good.

im thinking about flowering them soon. see what will happen:jointsmile:

kd_special