D Rocks T5 grow

[D Rock]

Hey everyone, I have a small grow going on right now for my own personal stash. These plants that Im currently growing are nothing more than bagseed. I have attempted to grow before but was unsuccessful this time I want to do it right.
anyway on to buissness. As of now they are on day 13 from when the split there seed. I think they are a bit small for 13 days but hey Im no expert. I have these seedlings in a 4x4 homebox. Up until yesterday (day11) they were growing with the help of some CFL's then I put them under what I had hanging in the homebox a 1000 watt HPS( I got rid of it due to the tremendous heat it was producing) I had it with exhaust helping to expell any hot air but it didnt help. So after a day (day11) under the HPS I decided it was way to hot and put the CFL's back up and they were up almost all of day 12. Now (day13)My New Wave 8 bulb T5 lighting system is up and it produces little heat.
Yesterday the soil felt pretty dry so I saturated the soil until I had runoff water from the bottom so I could test my Ph level. It was around 7 so I added a little bit of PH down to my gallon of distilled water Im using to water the plants with and got it to 6.0. Now My plants seem droopy and a couple look like they have a case of leaf curl. Is this from too much water? Included are some pics of my equipment and set up. Please any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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here they are under the T5 lights.

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Pulled them down from the light to get a overhead shot and to stir up the top layer of soil.

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different angle

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although not the best pic this one seems to be the worst with the leaf curl and saggyness.

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This one seems to be my biggest plant.

I have the cups numbered to try and keep track of which plants are which.
Will post more pics.

[D Rock]

Forgot to mention that Im using a mix of Fox Farms Ocean forrest potting soil with some pro mix mixed in with the fox farm. Nutrients will be Technaflora BC (plants have not recieved any nutrients yet) only a capful of superthrive went into my gallon of water. They will be grown in 3 gallon grow bags(they were cheap and work well) Also forgot to mention the bulbs that are in my New Wave hood are the blue ones 6500k, when its time to flower I will be putting in the red bulbs 3000k. Let me add some more pics.

[D Rock]

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Nice shot from under the hood looking down the lights.

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A shot from outside the homebox with the doors open, I will close them when its time to flower.

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Random shot.

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Here are my nutes that I will be using.

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Fox Farms Ocean Forrest Soil.

[D Rock]

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Pro mix that is mixed in a 2:1 ration with my Fox Farms soil.

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Good reading material, also a bottle of superthrive down in the corner.

When do you think its safe to start giving nutes to the plants I have always read week 2-4 in veg stage. Tommorrow will be 2 weeks. I think I might wait a little longer though.

[evertking]

Looks good!

[D Rock]

Thanks evertking, but Im a bit worried about the saggy leaves and the curling.

[Pass That Shit]

They are looking nice and green. Low heat bulbs are the way to start. :thumbsup:

I wonder if your leaf problem (non-problem) is because of the light being so close to the plants? It could be that they are growing alot outward. You have large healthy leaves for the size of the plant. If you raise the light a little, they will grow more up instead of out. I'm not suggesting this, just pointing it out if you have an issue with the leaves. I think your leaves look good and healthy.
Good Luck!!! :jointsmile:

[D Rock]

thanks Pass that shit. I will raise it up a little but I thought that was one of the reason most people bought these bulbs was so they can get the light alot closer to the plants.

[Pass That Shit]

It's true. They are much closer to the light with a cool bulb. They would have died already if you had an HPS/MH that close to them.
Because of soil fertility, I probably wouldn't feed for another 2 weeks. The leaves look large and green for their size.

Now go look at the difference between your plants and the plants in that other thread at 2 weeks. I was trying to point out to the readers that they would NOT get their plants like that in just 2 weeks. He was not being honest with us. Good Luck with your grow!!!

[forcus master]

Looking good. I wouldnt worry those leaves yet. Plants look healthy.

[Shovelhandle]

nice neat set up. Keep at it. I'd be looking to put them into bigger pots right off.

Shovelhandle

[D Rock]

Now go look at the difference between your plants and the plants in that other thread at 2 weeks. I was trying to point out to the readers that they would NOT get their plants like that in just 2 weeks. He was not being honest with us. Good Luck with your grow!!!


I knew what you were saying. I thought he said he got those as clones and those pics were taken 2 weeks after he put them into his system. anyway I never thought those plants were 2 weeks old anyway. Just giving him props for having a T5 thats all, Im no idiot I know he was stretching the truth a little.

[D Rock]

nice neat set up. Keep at it. I'd be looking to put them into bigger pots right off.

Shovelhandle


Thanks shovelhandle. The next time I transplant will be into my 3 gallon grow bags. do you think they are ready for this? I will take one out of the cup and see how the roots are doing, if they are circling the inside of the cup then I will transplant.

[D Rock]

Looking good. I wouldnt worry those leaves yet. Plants look healthy.


Thanks for the kind words. Im just a little paranoid thats all. I dont like it when the leaves are starting to curl makes me think something is wrong with them.

Oh yeah Pass that shit, I raised my light up about 3 inches.

[D Rock]

Well I checked My smallest plant I took it out of the cup and looked and the roots are all on the outside of the dirt so I say its time to transplant. I looked at my smallest plant to make sure I havent looked at the bigger plants yet. Well Im off to Transplanting.

[ncnavguy]

Good Luck with transplanting man, I like your grow setup. What size pots did you move them to?

[D Rock]

Thanks, I put them in 3 gallon grow bags Im about to upload pics check back in a few minutes.

[D Rock]

Here are some photos after transplanting them into bigger Grow bags. They sure look like they are pissed off at me for transplanting them into the bags but I guess thats just a part of transplanting. Hope that they kick back ok and start growing. It seems that they have been growing very slow for the past 2 days. My light is about 15 inches away from tops of plants, I read in Jorge cervantes Grow Bible that after transplanting when under a Fluro set up to have light 12-18 inches away. Hopefully I can start giving them nutes next week.

DAY 14
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[D Rock]

And just a couple more.

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Comments are welcomed.:jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

Hey, nice setup.
7 was too high but 6 is too low- aim for 6.7 +/- .2
That's why the petioles are reddish. But the plants look good overall. Wehn you lock in your pH they will start looking better.

[D Rock]

Thanks stinky attic. Today was a pain in the ass with the whole PH thing, transplanting and all. I had to adjust my PH level several times due to me running out of distilled water. I had to use tap water so I was adjusting my ph level so that I could give my plants a good soaking after transplanting them, I also added some thrive alive B1 to my water. Its suppose to help with transplant shock.

[D Rock]

Ok Stinky I have a question that maybe you or anyone else that wants to chime in can answer. Here goes.... I have a relative cheap PH meter, the kind where you stick the probe into the soil and read the needle on the actual meter.... well never mind here is a pic of the thing.
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I always check my PH level before watering my plants I have the little test vial that you add drops to and watch for the color and match up the coresponding color next to the Level, well I always get it to where its suppose to be, but then I water and check with the PH meter by sticking the probe into the soil and its almost always above 7.0 what is causing this and how do I fix it? I think this might attribute to my slow progress lately in my plants growth. I know the digital ones are better, but as of right now Im Broke as hell and cant afford to buy anything else right now plus if my wife finds out that I spend another dime on this growing thing as she like to call it then I will be either sleeping outside or on the couch.
When the plants were in the cups I tried saturating them till I had runoff water but I kept watering and watering and felt like I was going to drown my plants so that didnt work. I feel as if this is going to cause a big problem if I dont nip it in the bud right now. Someone please help.

[forcus master]

What is the ph of the soil mentioned in the Foxfarm bag? In 3gallon grow bag ph level shouldnt change much after only few waterings. Unless you've put something else in there.

Curling of the leaves maybe a symptom of K Cu Zn B or Mo shortage. Try giving nutes to some of them and see if theres change to the others.

[D Rock]

What is the ph of the soil mentioned in the Foxfarm bag? In 3gallon grow bag ph level shouldnt change much after only few waterings. Unless you've put something else in there.

Curling of the leaves maybe a symptom of K Cu Zn B or Mo shortage. Try giving nutes to some of them and see if theres change to the others.


Im not sure of the PH level on the soil as I dont see it anywhere on the bag, It does say it has oyster shell in it for PH adjustment. ususally the soil PH level is around 7 or higher when I stick the needle in the soil.

[forcus master]

Im not sure of the PH level on the soil as I dont see it anywhere on the bag, It does say it has oyster shell in it for PH adjustment. ususally the soil PH level is around 7 or higher when I stick the needle in the soil.


"Ocean Forest® is pH adjusted at 6.3 to 6.8 to allow for optimum fertilizer uptake" FoxFarm Soil & Fertilizer Company (http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/products_soils1.html)
Quick google :thumbsup:
So the soil seems to be optimal for its pH level. Have you add garden lime to the soil? If you have, that might have raised the pH to seven or over. Nutes usually bring the pH a bit down. To lower pH and increase acidity you can add sulphate of ammonia or urea which are high nitrogen fertilizers. Maybe try it to one or two plants and see if that helps. If your pH meter still shows 7 or over, test it to make sure It really works(unless you already have). You can pee on it ;)

Oh and keep the needle in the soil for good five minutes.

[D Rock]

"Ocean Forest® is pH adjusted at 6.3 to 6.8 to allow for optimum fertilizer uptake" FoxFarm Soil & Fertilizer Company (http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/products_soils1.html)
Quick google :thumbsup:
So the soil seems to be optimal for its pH level. Have you add garden lime to the soil? If you have, that might have raised the pH to seven or over. Nutes usually bring the pH a bit down. To lower pH and increase acidity you can add sulphate of ammonia or urea which are high nitrogen fertilizers. Maybe try it to one or two plants and see if that helps. If your pH meter still shows 7 or over, test it to make sure It really works(unless you already have). You can pee on it ;)

Oh and keep the needle in the soil for good five minutes.

I have a PH UP and down buffer solution, this should work its what Ive been using to bring it up or down when I have to use tap water.

[Pass That Shit]

I knew what you were saying. I thought he said he got those as clones and those pics were taken 2 weeks after he put them into his system. anyway I never thought those plants were 2 weeks old anyway. Just giving him props for having a T5 thats all, Im no idiot I know he was stretching the truth a little.

LOL, He was shady from the start. He failed to tell us that he was working with clones until he was questioned about it. He also stated in his first post that it was the best grow he's had in years because of the T5, but yet, he was only 2 weeks into the grow. :wtf:

I wouldn't rely on the accuracy of that pH meter. I have the same one actually, but it's sitting in my shed somewhere. I always add some peat to help keep pH down in pots. I also use coconut husk chips which have a natural pH of 6.5 and hold water well.
I bought the chips over 3 years ago, and I've been re-using them since.

By the way, if the number to the right of the temp is for humidity. During veg, they like it high, during flower, they like it low. You may want to mist them when you visit them to keep humidity up during veg. If your room is dry, make sure they are moist.
By the way, nice grow bags!!! :jointsmile:

[D Rock]

Thanks Pass that shit. Well the plants have perked up a bit since yesterday. I had them on a 24 hr light schedule. I have now cut it back to 18/6 light/dark schedule. As far as the PH meter as mentioned before its the only one I have for now and it will have to do. Im currently unemployed and have spent so much money already and wouldnt get another dollar past my wife. Eventually I want to get a hanna meter or something similar to that.

[D Rock]

havent added anything to the soil but Pro mix and from what I under stand is that promix can screw with the PH level. If I would have know this I would have left the Promix alone and went with just the fox farms soil. I guess I was trying to strech the soil or make it go further by adding the Pro mix to it. I now know for my next grow its going to be just Fox Farm soil and thats it, might also go with their nutrients too.

[Penngrove]

D rock. I have been following along and I am not sure if we are at the same stage. I used Northern Light seeds and sowed directly into cocosoil. I put my Tek light down about 6 inches and keep things moist. They all popped within a day. I think I told in another post that I really screwed up the first time and kept them way to close. So I am keeping them way off about 24". I went with the General Hydropoics Flora series just cause they make it very close by.
But here is my novice question. Am I comparing apples to apples as I keep thinking about the heat. I have the tek light 48 and I am using all 8 tubes. I am running T-5 HO 54 watt. Are we running the same??
I am curious because our timing seems to be the same on this batch and I like to compare. Thanks Penn

[D Rock]

D rock. I have been following along and I am not sure if we are at the same stage. I used Northern Light seeds and sowed directly into cocosoil. I put my Tek light down about 6 inches and keep things moist. They all popped within a day. I think I told in another post that I really screwed up the first time and kept them way to close. So I am keeping them way off about 24". I went with the General Hydropoics Flora series just cause they make it very close by.
But here is my novice question. Am I comparing apples to apples as I keep thinking about the heat. I have the tek light 48 and I am using all 8 tubes. I am running T-5 HO 54 watt. Are we running the same??
I am curious because our timing seems to be the same on this batch and I like to compare. Thanks Penn

You have the tek light T5 and I have the New Wave T5. I also have the 8 bulb system as you. They are the same wattage and Lumens. Your hoodis Black and mine is white that is the only difference, Mabey your is a little lighter than mine since you are able to use the retractable hangers and Im not. I actually have my light about 13" from the tops of the plants. Im at day 16 naow since the seeds have poped. some look good and some look likr they did 3 days ago. Guess thats what you get with bagseed though. Next grow is definately going to be somethingf better maybe strawberry cough.

[D Rock]

after I posted that I went and got my little catalog that I picked up from the grow shop and it says that your is made of aluminum and mine is steel. No wonder I cant use those hangers for my light.

[Penngrove]

Ok mystery solved. Like I said my buddy was really on edge because they each are rated at 22 pounds but the guy in the shop swore they would hold fine. We still have the chain as a safety but so far no problem.

Mine is in a 4 ft by 5 ft room and you saw the top I think with the ventilation. With that running that room is a minimum of 75 degrees but usually higher and like your situation, it gets hot outside. Big ass box fans are the best I can do but I can keep the temp below 95 during the high sun.

Still learning about nutients. I use well water and the best I can do at the moment is use a pool kit and the ph looks like 6.7. I need to get a better method. My next step is figuring this out. The guy from the Netherlands swears by this Flora series and up until now I have pretty much used a blend of CoCo soil and planters choice. He said just use the moisture meter and keep them happy. Use nutrients everytime. Gave me another product called Sweet. Mostly Magnisium as far as I can tell.
I know I can do much better because the last batch had some pretty sorry looking leaves towards the end. I am trying to catch on to the right stuff to use in the medium I use.

I guess I should start a grow log so you can see what I am doing and can laugh you butt off. The pack had fourteen seeds and all fourteen popped. So far they look good but I don't quit have the leaf sets you have just yet. Maybe moving the light lower?? Do you use a light meter??

Thanks for sharing your log, it helps.. Penn

[D Rock]

I dont use a light meter.

And you should start a grow log... you will get tremendous help and suggestions on making your grow a better one, Im glad to see someone other than me has taken a step to T5 lights.
Oh and why would I laugh at your grow. We all start somwhere. As a matter of fact this is only my 3rd grow and This one has done better than the previous 2, there is a hell of alot to learn but thats what makes it so fun and enjoyable. Go ahead and start a grow log so we can see your progress. Good luck!

[D Rock]

Day 19

Here are a couple updated pics of my grow at day 19 from when the seed split open.

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All plants are doing pretty good some are better than others with the 2 biggest plants being up front and to the right in the picture. I guess every plant is going to be a little different cause it came from a mixed container of bagseed that I collected overtime. There are a couple of seeds that were from some hydroponic grow weed that was dank as hell, those are probably the ones that look the best. Will update when there is more to show.

[Penngrove]

Hey D Rock your looking good. So tell the new guy some stuff. How rigid are those grow bags? What is the capacity your using? Is the white specs Perlite??
How close is your light at this point. Everyone says lower so I am at 18" now. Temp is 86 at plant top and fan is running now right next to the plants.
Are the cups of water for humidity? I live in a fairly dry area and I am curious on humidity.
Sorry for all the newbie stuff. I will shot some shots in a couple of days as I think you are 6 days ahead of me.

[D Rock]

Hey D Rock your looking good. So tell the new guy some stuff. How rigid are those grow bags? What is the capacity your using? Is the white specs Perlite??
How close is your light at this point. Everyone says lower so I am at 18" now. Temp is 86 at plant top and fan is running now right next to the plants.
Are the cups of water for humidity? I live in a fairly dry area and I am curious on humidity.
Sorry for all the newbie stuff. I will shot some shots in a couple of days as I think you are 6 days ahead of me.

the grow bags are good to use they are extrememly inexspensive, and are a little thicker than a heavyduty black garbage bag and they are 3 gallon grow bags. Yes that would be perlite although the fox farms soil has vermiculite in it too. the perlite you see is from the ProMix that is mixed in with the fox farms. Im at about 12-15" right now and I was going to lift it up another 2-3 inches tonight. The cups are for humidity, the humidity inside my house is at 40ish% and I put the cups in there to keep it right about 50@ thats as High as I can get it with all the fans I have blowing around in there.

[Penngrove]

Most excellent. 18" has worked today. Hottest it got was just under 90. They took a good jump today.
The growbags are perferated on the bottom, correct?? Wonder if I should try those. As long as they are stout I will be in good shape. Probably it more in the room by the look of yours.

Maybe I should pull the humdity up to match you. Probably 30% in there as a guess so I could up in some water as well.

How many fans are you running on yours and how big? I use the 7" Target two speed specials. Up to two per room.

[D Rock]

Most excellent. 18" has worked today. Hottest it got was just under 90. They took a good jump today.
The growbags are perferated on the bottom, correct?? Wonder if I should try those. As long as they are stout I will be in good shape. Probably it more in the room by the look of yours.

Maybe I should pull the humdity up to match you. Probably 30% in there as a guess so I could up in some water as well.

How many fans are you running on yours and how big? I use the 7" Target two speed specials. Up to two per room.

You should try and stay 85 deg and under. Yes the bags have holes on the bottom and on the sides just before the bottom of the bag, they are cheap as hell at like 15cents a piece or something like that is what i paid for mine they ,make them in 1 gal, 3 gal, 5gal, and 7 gal Im going to just use the 3 gallons as I wont let my plants get to big.

As far as the humidity tommorrow Im going to get a big container to fill with water and put behind the bags. The cups with water just aint cutting it. I really need my humidity to stay above 50% and its only at 50% or higher when I water or mist the plants down with a b1 vitamin that was designed for misting the plants down with.

Fans I have 3 right now. One is a small 4" clip on fan that is cliped on the inside of the tent. One is a tower fan that moves back and forth, and the other is like a 6" fan that I have on the floor right in front of a A/c vent that is drawing all the cold air from the A/c vent and blowing it into my tent. Im going to have to figure out how to keep it cool like this when I have to shut the doors to the tent when its time to flower. Keep updating your crop man so we can see each others T5 grow. :thumbsup:

[smokedoja]

great job D!

[Penngrove]

D rock your looking good. I posted a few more today but I am making a shopping list as I need to go into Los Angeles for some things. If I want to follow in step with you I best get these girls transplanted quickly. I am with you on the Ph thing.

[Chronisseur]

edit.....Nice job DRock! Keep up the good work:D

[D Rock]

edit.....Nice job DRock! Keep up the good work:D

Thanks Chronisseur!


I appreciate all the support guys Im very anxious as this is the first time I have taken a grow this far. The two previous grows didnt make it due to lack of knowledge. This time I have done alot of research and made some good connections on the net to help me through any problems that I might come across.

I will probably update with some more photos tommorrow.

[Penngrove]

Hey D Rock. Wife and I are looking at your grow bags again and sold on it. How many total do you have under your lights? Thanks.

[D Rock]

there are 9 total. I could probably fit 12 under there if I wanted.

[D Rock]

Day 21

Ok guys here are some pics I snapped today. Foilage is growing at a pretty rapid rate now. Sometimes the leafs are droopy but I have figured when they do this they are thirsty. I just got done watering my babies about 3 cups of water each. So I should be good for another 3-4 days then they get nutes with their water.

Anyway on to the pics.


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Anyone know if these are a sativa or indica strain? Im pretty sure they are Indica, but Im no expert. The reason I ask is because they are bagseed so I dont know if they are any particular strain.

[Penngrove]

Wow. Too cool. They have really taken off. I am no expert believe me but I have had similar plants that have been indica dominant. One of the veterans here will probably post the strain before I finish typing.
I will update my log. You are doing great!

[D Rock]

Thanks man. Im getting to the point where I think I might want to top the plants and see if it does any good. Or mabey LST them any thoughts people?

[Raskolnikov]

Looking good! I'd like to get T5's for vegging too, but right now I'm doing a SIHLA grow (stuff I have laying around).

I'm using the ProMix high porosity, watering with filtered tap water, and I haven't had any ph issues. Water is around 7, and runoff is around 6/6.5 or so. Plants seem happy. They didn't need nutes for the first 5 or 6 weeks.

As for lst, I'd say it depends on your plans for them. Potential mothers, bud quickly, veg for a while then bud...

What kind of bud lights you got?

[matagalpiano]

Hey droc... Im not exactly an expert and i didnt read much of the last of the forum but i thought maybe a little bit of my input wouldnt hurt... From what i know the ph is ideal at 6.5 and should only go up a .1 or .2 because 6.4 is pretty acidic... another thing i have learned is that cfl are about the best thing you can have but even though you would buy a cool floro bulb air circulation is a must... and you should keep them about a couple of inches from them... cfl are the bomb for root development (blue spectrum) i dont consider long floros because they dont give you much room to flex with... hanging your lights and watching your plants to see where they need that light is very convenient.... i have never messed with fox dirt but i do know that in the vegetative stage your babies are gonna want a high N and the p and k shouldnt be higher. but it seems you been feeding her im sure you might have your own solution chart i would personaly make my own buffers and solutions but thas me... and oh yeah i seen your temp read and it should be about 72 degrees F and humudity just a lil under 60% or it might be 5% higher dont take my word on it all plants are different and dialing yours in is gonna take practice.... well hope i didnt bore you and this was some help take care....:D

[D Rock]

What kind of bud lights you got?



At the begining of my thread I told that I have red spectrum bulbs to put in place of the Blue spectrum ones that are in now. 6500k in now, will be switching to 3000k. I had a 1000 watt HPS but it got way to hot in there for them. This suites my needs much better than the HPS did.

[ncnavguy]

Awesome grow so far, D Rock, I have been watching it closely and have taken several of your practices to improve my own grow, I especially liked adding the water cups to the room to increase the realitive humidity. I have a really dry room and the cups helped. I also switch to 18/6 from my 24/0 schedule. Both changes have been to positive results. When are you planning to switch to flowering? I going to start at 6 weeks.

[D Rock]

Well I was going to wait till I Saw preflowers on the the plants before I put the red spectrum bulbs in and started flowering. I read in my grow bible by Jorge Cervantes that switching your plants to 12/12 before preflowers have been spotted greatly increases your chance of the plant being male or hermaphodite, So Im going to make sure they keep growing good and take car of them that way I will have more females than males or so Im hoping. Thanks for stopping in, Make sure to hang around and follow the grow Pics will be added frequently. As for the red cups they are gone and I have put two big bowls with about 1 1/2 gallons of water in them each they are behind the plants this time. See ya round the boards.

[D Rock]

Just a quick note. I lowered my lights back down closer to the tops of the plants. It is now at about 5-6 inches from the tops of the plants, reason being is that the lumens are greatly decreased the further your light is from the tops of your plants. Ecspecially with these Fluro's they just dont have the penatrating light that a HID does. Anyway We will see if they just start getting fat again. If so then thats just the way my plants are going to have to be. I have gotten my humidity up to 58% Relative Humidity from about 40-45% by putting the two big bowls of water instaed of those red cups with only a small amount of water in them.

[Shovelhandle]

unlike another grower, I put the t-5 54W inches from the tops of the plants right from the get go. Maybe that I have a four lamp fixture and his was an eight lamper may be all teh difference. dunno. But, the T-5 54W really can grow pot and produce decent bud. Not as good as HPS, but you don't have4 to fuss with ventilation and temerature nearly as much.

Sho

[D Rock]

Ok guys Im looking for some guidance here. I have been thinking about how to train my plants and popular methods like SOG, SCROG, and LST have come to mind. Out of these three Im thinking of doing a SCROG. Im thinking this will be the best for my conditions, Poor light penatration with the T5 lights. I guess what Im asking is exactly how do you scrog?
When do you put the screen or netting over the tops of your plants? DO I wait till they show sex first? I would imagine so, it would probably be a pain in the ass if they grew through the netting and I had to remove a couple due to them being males. Any guidance on this is greatly appreciated. I was contemplating Topping or FIM but I dont want to cut my plants just yet.

Thanks for any advice given.

[Penngrove]

Hi D Rock. My grow log dissappeared and all my posts. I guess I ticked someone off. They left my photo gallery which is odd. Anyway I guess that means get lost so I will wish you luck. My transplant went well, I love the soil, I appreciate all your advice. Penn... Here is my transplant. Had to add a little CoCo to top off a couple after settling.
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/500/medium/Day17_001.jpg

[D Rock]

Are those the 3 gallon grow bags?

[D Rock]

Check out icmag.com I have a grow log over there too.

[Penngrove]

Ok thanks. I was pretty stoked about this board. No warning no nothing. I will check out your othersite. Here is one more of the transplant.
http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/500/medium/Day17_003.jpg

[D Rock]

looks good. I go by the same name on that website so look me up. We T5 users need to help each other out, ok that sounds korny but Im screwed up right now on percocets. Had some left over from when I broke my hand a few months ago.

[Penngrove]

Yes I really need to solve the humidity issue next and compare notes on watering and feeding. That pH meter says my well water is 6.9 Hard to believe but the guy calibrated it to 4 and to 7. Hmmm. See you over there. Good luck with the Perocets ( I hate the stuff myself so I use cannabis instead, that is how I got legal, but I understand it does the job ).
Still blown away. Some of my posts in other forums are fine. The ones in indoor gardening seem to have been deleted. Time for a "trainwreck".

[Shovelhandle]

wtf, Penngrove. I was looking forward to your grow log too. Maybe a mistake? I tried to delete my first post on this recent grow log but found that I can't do that so I edited it to say "please delete" maybe some confusion there by a monitor?

Shov

[Penngrove]

Sorry for hijacking the thread. I registered with the other board and I am waiting moderator approval. I will redo my log there. I write this bulletin board software for a living so I am pretty familiar with it and can assure you that it was nothing I did. I would have to guess a moderator or admin blow the stuff off but the baffle is no warning. They should send you a private message or something. I own several computer severs in Scottsdale so maybe I will toss up a new domain on that. Or I will backdoor into an exisiting domain. Anyway look for me on the other site and I will carry on. Thanks D Rock for letting me borrow your thread. Now post some new pictures!

[D Rock]

Here are a couple new pics taken today. Hope you enjoy.

Day 26

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/8131/1001266ae3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/9769/1001268uz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Plants seem to be bulking up on the inside.

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/5255/1001273fj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/9610/1001267kv8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/7407/1001271yy7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thats all for now. Im hoping they will start to show preflowers soon.

[growin then tokin]

you definetly got some bushy fuckin plants there, mate

some of your leaves look a tad dry, though

and i dont know what to tell you about SOG SCROG or any of that.
i seen one guys log and topped his plants and they came out real nice

[Shovelhandle]

nice photos. plants are doing great.

[forcus master]

How about some updates D?

[deadhead65]

You should try and stay 85 deg and under. Yes the bags have holes on the bottom and on the sides just before the bottom of the bag, they are cheap as hell at like 15cents a piece or something like that is what i paid for mine they ,make them in 1 gal, 3 gal, 5gal, and 7 gal Im going to just use the 3 gallons as I wont let my plants get to big.

As far as the humidity tommorrow Im going to get a big container to fill with water and put behind the bags. The cups with water just aint cutting it. I really need my humidity to stay above 50% and its only at 50% or higher when I water or mist the plants down with a b1 vitamin that was designed for misting the plants down with.

Fans I have 3 right now. One is a small 4" clip on fan that is cliped on the inside of the tent. One is a tower fan that moves back and forth, and the other is like a 6" fan that I have on the floor right in front of a A/c vent that is drawing all the cold air from the A/c vent and blowing it into my tent. Im going to have to figure out how to keep it cool like this when I have to shut the doors to the tent when its time to flower. Keep updating your crop man so we can see each others T5 grow. :thumbsup:


OK I was just going to ask you how you keep the air circulating when the doors are shut but I see you haven't shut them yet. So you just keep them open all the time while you are in veg state?

I'm going to get the homebox hopefully next weekend and I saw that the XS one that I want has two holes on the top for air intake and outtake. Does yours have that and if so what do you have going through there?

Your grow looks amazing btw and those bags are such a great idea!!!

[PdoubleOTY]

plants look damn gorgeous man....excellent work, and really clean set up! i love what you have going there, and man it is fucking working! enjoy those buds!

[theelectrician]

damn i luv ur t5 iusta have an 8 tuber in a 2by4 fixture i thoght in close confines the intensity of the t5 was comparable to hps keep growin damn or states touch:stoned:

[lbb1234]

did this thread move?? would love to see the end result

[TheGreatBelow]

bump

[lbb1234]

?????

[SimonMakus]

What the hell is with all the 2007 threads? Let dead threads rest!

[jasonhamilton27]

it might help also to move the light closer i have the same thing and u can have it within inches and be good and very nice set up i have a 4 ft 4 bulb t5 and 2 400 watt hps for budding but am gonna try the t5 for buds this time

[RancorBuds]

I want to try and get a set up like this going for seedlings get the ladies ready for thier outdoor life. Im impressed with the veg results, and this too will be my 3rd grow. I have some nice organic fertz available ( pigeon, rabit manure) wondering if anyone has had experience with them. Any tips on getting my plants outside in the spring with as little stress as possible as i plan on putting some money into genetics.

[wbkswann]

And just a couple more.

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Comments are welcomed.:jointsmile:
hey bro.. i just set up my first grow room..ill post pictures.. but it looks like your plants are wilting because the temp is over 80 degrees!! and the humidity is way up there! humidity anywhere between 40 - 60 % is perfect.... LET ME KNOW HOW IT GOES!

[KingKronic420]

hey bro.. i just set up my first grow room..ill post pictures.. but it looks like your plants are wilting because the temp is over 80 degrees!! and the humidity is way up there! humidity anywhere between 40 - 60 % is perfect.... LET ME KNOW HOW IT GOES!

im pretty sure that his thread and grow are long done and over, look at the original post its 3 years old man....