Barack Obama for President?

[vej33]

So I'm not thaaaaat into Politics, and I'm sorry if any of this has been discussed earlier... but Barack Obama, it seems, is a 2008 Presidential Candidate.

Now, I certainly do not know enough about ANY of the candidates to really hold an opinion, but I was wondering...

Do you think, since Barack Obama is black, if he won Presidency he would know what it takes to really make men (and women) equal? We've never had a President that didn't fit the "Free Man" picture.... middle aged, and white. But if we had a black man (purely for example), would he take into consideration the own age of slavery brought upon his people, and make sure that equality were delivered to every human?

What do we think?

[Sombrero]

Well, while I would vote for Obama if he won the primaries, I doubt that he would be fighting for equality like that because his father is African, not African American. There's a big difference there.

[40oz]

I don't think the race of a person gives them any advantage in being able to make us 'more equal' In my opinion many black people in the cities hate white people just as much as some white people hate black people in the country and suburbs.

[vej33]

But you would never necessarily elect a president who so clearly hated ANY people -- except for Bush with the gays, and lol according to Kanye West, Bush with the blacks too...

Too, I'm not saying that just the color of his skin will enable him to do better things, but the fact is that no other president's race has been so tormented in the past, and I just thought maybe a black president would see past the racism bullshit and get down to what was really the issue, we are all human under the same government, and the laws should apply to us all equally.

That being said, I would be personally disappointed if a Black president did not address equality for all. But I do understand what you mean about his father being African, not African American.

But Barack Obama aside, do you think ANY hypothetical black president would be more likely to want freedom for all?

[40oz]

I see what your saying, but its not like one guy can become president and change everybody's racist views in the world.

Plus I'm pretty sure it has been a goal of most every person in politics since the civil rights movement to make things more equal. At this point it is up to the individual to change the view of the world.

[vej33]

I dunno, Bush doesn't seem very keen on making Gays equal.

But yes, I do agree that it is up to the individual. Unfortunately, regardless of how many individuals make up the force, sometimes it just doesn't help.

[horror business]

I think Ron Paul would make a much better president.

[40oz]

I think a majority of America just isn't ready for the gay liberation. Bush probably isn't helping, but just give it a few more years for some of the more conservative members of our society to open their eyes or die off and gays will have full freedom before you know it.

Religion isn't helping Gays out either. I think that is one of the biggest things hindering progress for gays.

[Coolstoner]

After doing some research... I found out that Barack Obama is not in favor of legalization of Marijuana. Clinton on the other hand talk about legalization. She mention that she want to stop funding to those DEA who kept on raiding those business and people who are on Medical marijuana. Lets Clinton win. We don't need a black muslim like Barack Obama for president. If he favor of legalization... then I would vote for him but otherwise.... since he's not in favor... hell with him.

[40oz]

I'd have obama over that robotic clinton bitch any day...even if I knew by electing Clinton weed would be legalized.

[vej33]

Coolstoner, I'd say you should think more about what you want out of a president, whoever it may be, aside from marijuana legalization. Yes, we'd all love it to be legalized, but what's the use of smoking legal marijuana if we get an inept douche-bag (Bush?) who just ends up killing us? Or worse? Who knows....

And 40 Oz, i totally agree that Religion is hindering the Gays rights. And when you say to give it time, that Gays will eventually have their rights handed to them, I agree, but I think it will be with the Fall of Religion - which i don't think will last longer than 50 years.

[Nebraskan]

I am supporting Ron Paul. He will fight to keep the government out of our lives and let us regain our freedom. He is against the War on Drugs, War in Iraq, Patriot Act, and has so many other good ideas. A Ron Paul presidency would be a great way for the government to return to its roots.

[palerider7777]

all i have to say is if u think black people bitch and whine now over stupid shit and they still get there way like millions from companies cause someone else got the job or what ever well..just wait and see what happens if he makes it in there well anybody in office are puppets anyways so it don't matter who gets in office anyways.

[rebgirl420]

I would never vote for him. But if I HAD to vote democrat I would choose him. But since THAT won't ever happen, the outlook is bleek for my vote. I wish we would have Ron Paul, but even he is crazy.

[medicinal]

I would never vote for him. But if I HAD to vote democrat I would choose him. But since THAT won't ever happen, the outlook is bleek for my vote. I wish we would have Ron Paul, but even he is crazy.

Booolyaa, lets hear it for the republican hold out. I'd never vote for a repuke except maybe Paul, but I have many reservations about his views.

[Psycho4Bud]

Obama is a JOKE! He want to pull the troops out of Iraq A.S.A.P. leaving all our soldiers work to shit and THEN turn around and start up in Pakistan? His problem is obvious.......you know the pic.

Have a good one!:s4:

[FreshNugz]

I don't really think that Obama can make things 'equal'. Just because he's black?? That makes no sense, really.
Fact of the matter is, we will never all be equal. There are too many people to please, hence why politics is such a game. Make a platform that attracts the MOST people...if it were possible to be equal everywhere, we'd never switch leaders, right?

And the religion is most likely a big part of why America won't move forward on same sex issues. Although personally, I think it's good we did in Canada....cause we don't really see it as often. There are no more complaints about how gays are persecuted every day. They go about their business, straight people go about theirs...no conflict.

But I digress....
Really, no candidate will ever make things equal everywhere in the country. You could have made the same argument about Hillary, since America has never had a woman president, maybe she could foster equality?? Doesn't matter who it is really...

What I did wonder about electing Hilary, was how would leaders in the middle east respond to her, if at all?

[Psycho4Bud]

What I did wonder about electing Hilary, was how would leaders in the middle east respond to her, if at all?

My question is this: When world leaders are talking business with Hillary how are they going to feel about their wives hanging out with Bill?

Have a good one!:s4:

[FreshNugz]

hahahahhaha....they might be nervous.
No podiums or desks allowed, as they conceal activities....LOL:jointsmile:

[medicinal]

My question is this: When world leaders are talking business with Hillary how are they going to feel about their wives hanging out with Bill?

Have a good one!:s4:

Now that was funny. I knew you had a sense of humor.~LOL~

[suhl]

i liked obama awhile ago. i am not here to argue about it but i will say for the record i like his idea about the immediate pullout. i have heard the arguments against it and had people attempt to put words in my mouth saying i dont respect soldiers etc if i want them pulled out. no, the fact is i never thought they should have been there in the first place and i dont like the logic behind people say well that may be but now that we are there...you know the rest. anyhow, he seemed to be before all this shit with hillary started different than other politicians, less of a bureacrat or more of someone who really was straight and didnt do things for purely political reasons. now i feel that he has kind of sold out on those principles and probably will just vote for a third party and throw my vote away because he is winning illinois either way. i like him better than hillary though, i think she is lacking a soul.

as for the equality thing, i am not black myself so ill never truly know, but i can say that it has been my experience that pretty much the only racists left in this country are the truly stupid people, powerful or otherwise, whereas i think before the civil rights movement a lot of otherwise good people were racist as a result of environment. i think now as far as minorities go it is about as equal as it is ever going to get. gays are the only people who dont have pretty much what they want, and even on the personal level i dont see them being treated nearly as badly as news stories would have you believe

[40oz]

i liked obama awhile ago. i am not here to argue about it but i will say for the record i like his idea about the immediate pullout.


Condoms work better

[BrilloHeadBen]

I liked Obama up untill the second I found out he was for amnisty. and btw, he is NOT a muslim. I honestly don't know who I will vote for. It seems like we're really scraping the bottom of the barrel now.

[MadSativa]

not me Im a vote for Bill Richardson hes a bad ass and not afrid to get dirty, he legalized herb here and sat with Sadam and insulted him and never apologized for it and whos the dead one. Hes the only person North Korea will talk too he might piss of the right people for once.

[cobracommander1079]

Richardson/Kucinich 2008

[Ganja Dude]

Richardson/Kucinich 2008

You just blew my mind man :hippy:

[vej33]

I forgot I even posted this.

Funny how last year at this time, when there were a dozen some-odd candidates, Obama stuck out to me...

Guess I have Vision. He seems allright. Better than McCain, if you were to ask me. Much better than Hilary Fuckface.

What do we think?