seedlings growing into females need tips!!

[smokinbuds21]

i am restarting everything i ended up getting hermis my first time and trashed all of them

the only reason why is two days ago i ran into some really good stuff and was a few seeds so i got atleast 10 out of an ounce there now jerminating and roots are shooting out every where i will be planting them tonight!

my question is whats the best conditions to get females?

my temp is always 80 and at night drops to 70

alot of air flow and fresh water and ph in the soil im using is 6.5

im gonna start with 10 plants and try to get the most females

i also wanted to know if i put them on 24/0 light or 18/6 they say that night helps to be females but you cant have any light leaks and they also say that stress lowers your chance so is 24/0 stress from seedling?

i just want to get mostly females well as much as possible any great tips or suggestions would greatly be appriciated:jointsmile:

[smokinbuds21]

no replys???????????????????????????????

[smokinbuds21]

damn imy ballast went out and ant got no money to get one for atleast two weeks i just planted these seeds fuck it and fuck this i just cant get it right im throughing all this bullshit away im leaving it up to the experts to do it please if you cant who can

[FireTheft]

can't afford a new ballast go with CFL's ... yea your yield wont be as much, but really thats your only option until you invest in a new ballast (and fyi - make sure you get the correct ballast for your setup...dont mix and match incorrect hardware - its dangerous and a fire hazard) if you can't do anything about your temp make sure you have good ventilation. with fall approaching your temps may go down naturally anyway. make sure you have NO light leaks. and that when its dark in your grow room, that is DARK! interrupting darkness can lead to hermis/males. use a soilless mix with perlite and liquid ferts.

personally i prefer 18/6 and not 24 during vegging. I find that 24 makes them grow almost too fast and you end up with a weak center stalk that cant support the leaf growth....but others on here would disagree w/me.

with temps that high you run the risk on bugs/mites. buy pest strips and neem or einstein oil and take a preventative approach. once your plants get past the seedling stage I would spray them w/neem or einstein oil every 4-7 days making sure to get the underside of the leaf. I believe stinky attic on here does that and has never had a problem

[stinkyattic]

once your plants get past the seedling stage I would spray them w/neem or einstein oil every 4-7 days making sure to get the underside of the leaf. I believe stinky attic on here does that and has never had a problem

Absolutely not, overapplication of an oil, particularly to the underside of the leaf, can KILL your plants by clogging the stomata, leading to suffocation.

If you want to give out lousy advice, be my guest- I'll correct you- but don't be putting my name on that crap.

Neem oil as a miticide should be used on the leaf surface- CAREFULLY.

[khronik]

Still, it'd be nice if someone could answer the original question, so anyone else clicking on this thread would be able to get an answer.

It would seem that percentage of females is mostly a matter of luck, since a clone taken from a female will grow into a female and pollinating a female with a staminate female will give you feminized seeds. I've heard that if your plants become rootbound early on, they are more likely to become male, but I can't verify this, and I'm not sure how this would work.

[FireTheft]

Absolutely not, overapplication of an oil, particularly to the underside of the leaf, can KILL your plants by clogging the stomata, leading to suffocation.

If you want to give out lousy advice, be my guest- I'll correct you- but don't be putting my name on that crap.

Neem oil as a miticide should be used on the leaf surface- CAREFULLY.

first off my apologies to you stinkyattic....my intentions were not to attach you to bad information ... which is why I said "I believe" not "for certain" when I used your name.

2nd there IS someone on here, who's name I can't remember(obviously) that does spray their plants several times a week w/neem and has had amazing success with their grows. my advice to the person that started this thread was based on the situation they are in. Yes I know, its not ideal to spray neem that mcuh, but I felt doing so would be the lesser of two evils when it came to his grow. The potential negative effects of too much neem vs. the potential negative effects of high temps and bugs. Either way he is running a risk and I just personally feel that going the proactive route w/using neem would be better than waiting for mites to appear in temps like that.

no worries though....you provide great advice and I read and follow much of what you write.....so for that I thank you. :thumbsup:

[smokinbuds21]

thanx for the info but i have more questions in just a sec

i have kno light leaks and just installed a 12 inch fan in the wall of the growing cabinet it has ventilation on top and bottom of cabinet and at night time for the plant i put a cover over it and turn out all light theres also a ac right above blowing right into the fan now that i that is right the temp is sitting at 76 st8 with all the light on

i went out and bought 4 42 watt cfl big cfl's thie biggest ive seen and 2600 lumens each i planted seeds this time

my questions are:

i let the seeds germinate in a cup of water till iseen roots ans put them in dirt yesterday how long will it take for the plants to break through the soil?

my last plants i through seeds outside and looked a couple weeks later and there were plants 6 in tall thats why i dont know how long!!!

i also have liquid fert MG, and this fertilizer that are beeds thats called dynamite ill probley use that the hole time its npk is 13-13-13
and have blackstrap mollases and fertilizer spikes i know im going to need all of it but dont know which one to use i also have garden lime
which i herd is a nother good thing for the plant

when should i use all of those diffrent ferts and whitch ones and when?

[smokinbuds21]

so i should have a dark period for the seedlings to sprout or is it better to have it on for 24/0 untill they sprout when they finaly do cut back to 18/6?

[smokinbuds21]

please!!!!!

[faithlessxxx]

Seeds dont need light. They want darkness, dampness and warmth. As soon as they sprout they want weak light in the beginning, and increasingly stronger light during the next week until they're ready for full supernova light.

[FireTheft]

thanx for the info but i have more questions in just a sec

i have kno light leaks and just installed a 12 inch fan in the wall of the growing cabinet it has ventilation on top and bottom of cabinet and at night time for the plant i put a cover over it and turn out all light theres also a ac right above blowing right into the fan now that i that is right the temp is sitting at 76 st8 with all the light on

i went out and bought 4 42 watt cfl big cfl's thie biggest ive seen and 2600 lumens each i planted seeds this time

my questions are:

i let the seeds germinate in a cup of water till iseen roots ans put them in dirt yesterday how long will it take for the plants to break through the soil?

my last plants i through seeds outside and looked a couple weeks later and there were plants 6 in tall thats why i dont know how long!!!

i also have liquid fert MG, and this fertilizer that are beeds thats called dynamite ill probley use that the hole time its npk is 13-13-13
and have blackstrap mollases and fertilizer spikes i know im going to need all of it but dont know which one to use i also have garden lime
which i herd is a nother good thing for the plant

when should i use all of those diffrent ferts and whitch ones and when?

your seeds will sprout in a few days probably...it can vary depending on the quality/genetics.

if your lime is fine dolomite you should be ok, but it should be mixed w/the soil.

ferts high in nitrogen are ment for vegging and ferts lower in nitrogen and higher in P&K are ment for flowering. dont add any ferts for at least 2 weeks or more. your soil has enough in it to feed your plants for awhile. when you start w/nutes, start off with a much much weaker solution maybe 25% and see how they respond .. work your way up as they get older and you can see how they respond. less is more

[stinkyattic]

I spray regularly with neem- it is wonderful- but apply it LIGHTLY to the leaf surface. It's all good.

[smokinbuds21]

so should i just keep the light on 18/6 for the seeds to sprout and turn of a couple bulbs?

just have the two fluro tubes on and 2 23 watt cfl and kepp the 4 43 watt cfl's off untill a week after they sprout

the fertilizer dynamite has the highest nitrogen and i think the liquid fert MG has alot more p and k

is there anything i should change and should i turn the fan off untill they sprout or just put it on its lowest speed?

[smokinbuds21]

stinkyattic what is neem?

how does it work what does it do?

im just gonna my light on 18/6 bec.. theres already two seeds that sprouted and more to come!!

that lime i have should i mix it in every transplant?

and im also gonna mix that dynamite fert when i transplant i guess i should'nt mix to much in wouldnt want to burn my plants!

[FireTheft]

stinkyattic what is neem?

how does it work what does it do?

im just gonna my light on 18/6 bec.. theres already two seeds that sprouted and more to come!!

that lime i have should i mix it in every transplant?

and im also gonna mix that dynamite fert when i transplant i guess i should'nt mix to much in wouldnt want to burn my plants!

neem is an oil from a tree found in india...its an natural pesticide that can be used to treat spidermites. you mix the oil with water in a spray bottle and lightly mist your plants for protection.

i'm not really sure if you should add lime EVERY transplant....too much lime can be bad for your roots....your best bet is to check your PH often.

yes...don't use a lot of ferts ... work your way up. when you start adding high quality liquid nutes you will be amazed how fast they start growing even after just one application....remember less is more

[FireTheft]

not trying to be rude, but I would also advise you to scour these message boards....a lot of your questions have been answered in great detail....it takes a little time, but believe me you will learn a wealth of information....heck just click on stinkyattics name, click on find all posts by this user and see what he has written....there's load out here....

again, not trying to be rude...just trying to help

[smokinbuds21]

yea your right but people have diffrent suggestions and answers from past grows would save alot of time but i like asking questions about diiffrent things

my ph is at 6.5 thats probley good enough ya think?

i just added a little lime to all my dirt seedlings and clones just because all the good treats thats in it i want to make sure my plants are getting everything they possibly can

one more question these seeds me and my friend got we ran into some good good stuff but had seeds so probley a commercail grow anyways can we grow these plants into way better bud then where the seeds came from he doesnt think we can but also ever sence we put them on his property hes had kinda power trip u no dont blame him tough my best bud ever so...... what do you think?

have you ever herd of dynamite fertilizer?

other than miracle grow what are some good resources that are high in phos.. and what ever k was cant remmember u no what im sayin

thanx for the replys people this buds for you:stoned:

[stinkyattic]

k=potassium
P= from bone meal, you can get it at walmart. It is also good for adding Ca and helping to buffer your soil against becoming too acidic.

[FireTheft]

never heard of dynamite.....

Not a fan of anything made by miracle grow....it can work but there is stuff far better.

I like Fox Farm nutes....then make one for vegging and one for blooming. Very high quality liquid nutes. You can get them by ordering online or going to a hydro store. Not sure if nursery's carry fox farm. They're worth it to have IMHO

[twoguysupnorth]

ive also heard that you shouldnt use the plant spikes because they are slow release and can mess with your other fertilizers. plus someone once said that contact with the roots when they grow into them can cause root burn. ive used them outdoors before but since reading this i havnt used them at all. just something else to make your life a little easier. lol i suppose if you grew the plants better than the other people did you might make them a little better, but just as likely they will come out about the same.

[smokinbuds21]

yea i havent been using the spikes i also used them in a outdoor grow 2 summers ago and the plant was great and that was the only fertilizer i used also maybe thats why

is lime only for lowering ph? i got it for that reason but it also has calcium magnesium and bunch of other organic things thought the plant would like those things

dynamite isnt made by miracle grow it just says dynamite premium fertilizer for flowers and vege's, the nitrogen is 13% it says whats the highest amount of nitrogen you can add and what's the affect?

i did see some type of bone meal in a bag i guess at home depot ill check it out tomorrow!! thanx for the replys everyone sorry for the annoying question just wanna get it right

this buds for you:stoned:

[twoguysupnorth]

i think alkaline means higher ph. correct me if im wrong.

[stinkyattic]

yeah alkaline is pH above 7.
Fert spikes are not good indoors. OUtdoors, I MIGHT consider using them if I could not access the site, but kind of as a last resort. I'm sure under some conditions they are completely safe. But I don't trust them really.

[FireTheft]

yea i havent been using the spikes i also used them in a outdoor grow 2 summers ago and the plant was great and that was the only fertilizer i used also maybe thats why

is lime only for lowering ph? i got it for that reason but it also has calcium magnesium and bunch of other organic things thought the plant would like those things

dynamite isnt made by miracle grow it just says dynamite premium fertilizer for flowers and vege's, the nitrogen is 13% it says whats the highest amount of nitrogen you can add and what's the affect?

i did see some type of bone meal in a bag i guess at home depot ill check it out tomorrow!! thanx for the replys everyone sorry for the annoying question just wanna get it right

this buds for you:stoned:

you could look at lime that way....it stabilizes PH. so if your PH is too high or too low it will bring it back to 7...and yes the elements in lime are good for the plant as well, but as with any additives too much can be bad.

is dynamite liquid? liquid nutes are the way to go. higher nitrogen isn't always better. fox farm grow big is amazing stuff and i believe its around 6-4-4. you have to remember its not how much you throw at your plants its what they can handle!

forget home depot...find a hydro store or nursery in your area!

[smokinbuds21]

the dynamite are little beeds that you add when you transplant to the dirt its like an advanced time release its 13-13-13 but it says will not burn plants and im only gonna use a quarter of what they say when i start out anyways

i also already put lime in all my soil just a tiny pinch because the pots im using right now are very small just to start out seeds but will be transplanting when plants are about 2 half weeks old.

dynamite consist of :

13% nitrogen
13%phosphate
13%potash
1.20%magnesium
.02 baron
.05copper
0.20 iron
0.06 manganese
0.02 molybdenum

i guess you can you'se this all the way through both cycles i guess once you mix it with the soil it takes a while to finnaly wash out but from what ive read i thought this stuff was good for it

i can also you'se manassas for a carbohydrate right? i also like using it because of the strong smell it puts off!!!!
makes your plants smell stronger faster i beleave!

i wonder if i can put this dynamite into a gallon of water and let it disolve in to it i dont know probley wont work right?

i guess ill use this dynamite for vegging and for flowering im gonna buy some bone meal and half to find out whats a good source for potassium?

thanx for the replys keep em comin :stoned: