A culture cannot be represented by certain people.

[Spoken Word]

I hope I don't offend anyone. But I'm not going to bite my tounge. Because it's gotten out of hand. At first I was understanding but now my family is getting attacked. at first I considered them actions of stupid, drunk, maybe ignorant guys but now it's women, men, kids etc.
I'm talking about the negative views towards hispanics in the U.S.
Mainly, it's confusion. They think I'm mexican or puerto rican. but don't seem to respect my colombian background once I clear it up for them. It's not EVERY white person I come across. People in my bank seem to love me. lol
The "Classy" people seem to want to know me first before they judge. It's the rural, southeren, cowboy type white group.
I walk into a bar and I'm treated as a poor, filthy, unworthy client because of my strong latin looks. One time, the 2 white guys I was with got into a fight because of it. for "hanging out with a dirty mexican".
anyways, the point of all this is that, i've read somewhere that the majority of the military is black and hispanic. hispanic also includes mexican.
so if there is such a strong hispanic presence in the military and they our over there fighting for OUR countries "cause", why are these conservative-type cowboys giving hispanics so much grief? why is my mother getting spit on? why is my grandmother's accent getting made fun of? why not take out all the hispanics and see what your left with? why not make it an all white army if hispanics are so stupid?

like I said in the title, A culture cannot be represented by certain people. it just seems like every conservative, rural white person I come across looks at me like I'm total shit.
I'm sorry if I offended anyone. lol this thread will most likely get deleted by someone. I can care less, I just needed to get that off my chest.

have a nice day.

[Storm Crow]

There was a kid, Mark, at my Jr. High. Mark was one of the first mainstreamed disabled kids at my school. He had been blind since the age of two. His dad was a teacher at our school, so he was accepted.

One day, we were BSing at lunch about the civil rights movement and Mark had problems with the concept of race. He didn't remember skin tones. "People are just voices to me. I judge them by what they say." That stuck with me.

I'm quite rural, but free thinker that I am, I try to walk through life "blind as Mark" to race and other artificial dividers. There is only the HUMAN race!- Granny:hippy:

[MadSativa]

I dont know what your bichin about main, were of color latino, chicano, hispanic we have been rejected and loved by many for ever we come in black, brown, white, and we still stick togeather Raza bra. when you start to say they think Im a mexican well in some aspect your the same color, just they dont know theirs different countires; people that think like that, think we are all spit out of the same mother, when in fact we come from differnet places divercity and knolege make people strong, if they choose to shun you out they only make them selves weeker, which they alreay reek of in the first place. People who hold racilal hate are only proving they have fear and fear is the mother of all weekness. and when someone messes with your family showem your teath main, bust a move

[MisterGreen]

for me to hear this it just sucks because this isn't how the world should be. just remember when you see these people who do these things that they're the weak ones and you and your family are the strong ones. hopefully someday we won't have to hear things like this.

[Ganj]

It's like Hendrix said, man..."They talk about me like a dog, talkin' about the clothes I wear but they don't realize, they're the ones who stare...yeah, baby! That's why!-You can't hold me down...I don't want to be tied down and I gotta move on! Cause I'm stone free to do what I please..."

People will always look at you funny. And when you walk like you have a purpose, they'll try to put you back down, but you gotta move on!

[Demeter]

Of course, all those people are reacting from ignorance, though knowing that doesn't remove the pain such behavior inflicts. The best thing to do with pain is allow it to make you stronger. Venting as you did is very smart- it helps keep you from getting bitter. If you get bitter, they win.:wtf: If you get strong and centered despite obstacles, you win big-

You might find people in other regions more educated and aware... I couldn't live in certain places in this country because of the way many of the people think- I need to live in a diverse area with educated and multicultured minds:)

Anyway, they are just jealous because Hispanics are so sexy :D that's just my opinion

[Spoken Word]

ahh it was just fresh in my mind from last night.

the drunk white bartender asked for my i.d. than he said under his breath "while your at it, lemme see your papers". So I got mad, my mother(i wanted to take her and her white boyfriend out) calmed me down and in the heat of it all some guy spit on my mother.
me and my mothers boyfriend took care of it all.

i just smoked and it's all good now, like i said
the white culture cant be represented by that one bar.

[Bluntmasterbabe]

There are racist people of all backgrounds...you just have to remember that it's their ignorance.

I was lucky enough to grow up in an interracial household. I feel that I was given the oppurtunity to see the world in a different way. I judge people by their personality, and the way that they treat me and others. Being from the South, I too had to deal with alot of BS, from other people at school and stares from strangers when my family would go out together. I use to get really fired up about it, but my parents have taught me to ignore the ugly in the world....you can't change everyone...just stay true to yourself and stand up for what you believe in.

It amazes me how racist people are to this day...I feel sorry for them, honestly. They're obviously very shallow people.

I'm very sorry that you were treated that way...it breaks my heart b/c I've been through the same thing, and I know how it feels to be judged simply on the color of your skin...just remember that you are a great person, and we all love you here!!!:D:D:D

[horror business]

The thing people fail to realize, is that we're all humans, and we all share the same Earth. Just as marijuana has many strains, with different characteristics, so do humans, but in the end, we're all the same species.

[thcbongman]

The fact is there are people who are prejudice against others who are different. Racism is only a category in what the real problem is: anger or jealously towards others that are different.

I am mixed. I dealt with racism on both sides of the aisle, ironically more from minorities who think I'm "too white." I think in this day, and age, it's utterly ignorant to think in such a hateful way.

We have to embrace who people are. We are all different and that the beauty of humanity.

[friendowl]

im happy i live in los angeles
i wouldnt be able to maintain
if someone spit on my mom or
disrespected me like that.

[Ganj]

Of course, all those people are reacting from ignorance, though knowing that doesn't remove the pain such behavior inflicts. The best thing to do with pain is allow it to make you stronger. Venting as you did is very smart- it helps keep you from getting bitter. If you get bitter, they win.:wtf: If you get strong and centered despite obstacles, you win big-

You might find people in other regions more educated and aware... I couldn't live in certain places in this country because of the way many of the people think- I need to live in a diverse area with educated and multicultured minds:)

Anyway, they are just jealous because Hispanics are so sexy :D that's just my opinion

That's pretty cool, Demeter. It's like saying that you take power away from your emotions when you express them, you accept that the anger and frustration is a part of you and "allow" it to manifest in a form other than denial or bitterness. And that's the opposite of racism.

[horror business]

The thing people fail to realize, is that we're all humans, and we all share the same Earth. Just as marijuana has many strains, with different characteristics, so do humans, but in the end, we're all the same species.

I agree! The thing that pisses me off, is people saying america is their country and how they're against immigrants, etc... yet we are all immigrants, unless you're native american, lol, people fail realize that this wasn't originally ours, it was the native americans.

[higher4hockey]

i'm a conservative rural white man and i can tell you that rural conservative white guys arent all racist, just like all hispanics aren't worthless.

don't fight a stereotype by stereotyping.

[rebgirl420]

I have nothing wrong with Latinos or anyone for that matter unless their illegally here. That goes for ANYONE. But I cant understand why people bitch about blacks or jews or whatever. I say judge people on their actions. Aren't there so many other reasons to think someones an ass than race or origin?

[rebgirl420]

i'm a conservative rural white man and i can tell you that rural conservative white guys arent all racist, just like all hispanics aren't worthless.

don't fight a stereotype by stereotyping.

Exactly, im a republican rural female and I dont group people in together.

[Zannies]

in southern california, the mexicans here don\'t give your race a good name. yes, their are lots of very nice hard working ones, but there are a lot of illegals where i live. i am in no means racist, but i don\'t respect people that don\'t pay their taxes and cheat the system.

[slipknotpsycho]

meh... i hate the mexicans in my neighborhood and i hated the mexicans at my job... but neither was due to racism....

the ones in my neighborhood hav enothing better to do but gather together (well the incidENTS happend over 3 years ago, but i'm sure none of them have changed) and start shit with 'the white boys' i've had a gun pointed at my face... i've been chased while on a bike by a horde of atleast 10 of them with no provocation (i was just fucking riding my bike and i happened to ride by them, and not close, they were on the other side of the street) and they thought id' be a good idea to start chasing me to 'kick yo fuggin white boy ass and take yo bike' and then later, (and older) when me and my brother was walking down the street, atleast 7.... called us white boys and gringo fucks and to step up and some other shit.... i had to literally drag my brother away because he wouldn't back down from a fight EVER)

as for my job.. everyone there was related to the main owner person... except me... so i always, ALL-FUCKING-WAYS ended up doing everyones jobw hile they stood around talking and chit chatting, and if ibrought it up to the main person or any other manager guess what... I GOT BITCHED AT and i was litearly doing everyone's job.. grill, fryers, cleaning and other odds and ends.... if i stood around, guess what... I GOT BITCHED AT for doing so... even if i it was just in a rush and i wasn't moving fast after the lunch rush was over.. guess what happened... I GOT BITCHED AT yet these mothers could fucking stand around for 10 minutes in the middle of the rush and face ABSOLUTELY NO CONSEQUENCES...

anytime something went wrong... it was my fault...

as i said, me hating them had nothing ot do with racism... and most of my town IS hispanic.... but it is quite a coincidence the only people around here who are ever trying to start shit with me (and i mean that quite literally... i've never had problems out of anyone else and i've lived in this town for 22 years now...) except the general school bs of course... was from hispanics....

take this post how you want but it's 100% fact and not exagerated in any way....

but i beleive in live and let live... and i'm not republican and i'm not worried about closing borders.... except maybe when they take jobs and don't want to do the job (like at my old job) while others can't get one, and are just dying to work...

but that goes for everyone, white black hispanic asian, i don't give a damn really.... you got a job, do your job, or give it to someone else....

[Spoken Word]

like i told the man last night.. i was born here(hollywood, fl). i wouldn't call myself an All-"American" but I was born here and I take pride in the way I live and will defend it if called upon. Infact, 4 of my cousins(also born here and in new york) have been in the navy. their recruiter drinks with me all the time.

and these types of people i encountered last night... i think all of you are FAAR more sophisticated and cultured. and OBVIOUSLY nicer, lol.
these people were really asking for trouble.
wrong time, wrong bar. pretty common in south florida.

im fine now.. they'll learn or they'll die miserable.

[Zannies]

spoken word,
most hispanic-related hate is aimed towards illegals. if anyone gives you shit, just ignore em, your fine.

[Jongbong]

its hard to fight stereotypes like that... there's just no winning. venting helps... but not much it just sucks and nothing can really change that, just try to think positive.

[horror business]

I'm curious as to those who say they're conservative yet their on a cannabis website. I would see that as being pretty liberal or at least open minded. Or are you conservative on some issues and not others? It makes no sense to me...

[Spoken Word]

^that's the funny part.
Im really in the middle.. a little more to the left but around the middle. i respect both conservative and liberal type messages. and of course disagree with aspects of both as well.

like i know if the people i encountered last night really sat down and talked to me with respect, we'd have a lot in common.
what's sad is that they judge before even talking to me.

i was taking my mother and her new boyfriend(who happends to be of german descent) out for a drink and to talk to them, you know.. get a feeling for their relationship.
not dictating, but it is my mother.
i wanted to get to know him before i passed judgement

and this happends.

it was pretty ironic but now i have respect for him on a whole other level.
so like i said, it's fine..
shit happends. lol

[Matt the Funk]

Storm Crow gave some great words of wisdom. Judge people on their words and actions, not on their sking color,ethnicity,etc....And I have to agree with friendowl.....this area is just a melting pot for different cultures.

[fasterspider]

The South Americans and Mexicans that I know would probably beat your ass for calling them Latino or Hispanic because they are neither.
My best friend in the world besides my wife is Edgar from Guatamala and speaks Spanish fluently but is not Hispanic at all, he is Guatamalan.
A Hispanic person is a person from Spain and Latin is a dead language that was used by the Catholic church to oppress people.
The words Hispanic and Latino are insults to the Spanish speaking people I know that are proud of their true heritage.
When the Spaniards got here 500 years ago, they raped and pillaged, murdered and infested the native peoples with new deadly diseases along with wiping out whole new to them races of peoples lifestyle and making them Christains.
Columbians are not Hispanics either, they are Columbians that just so happen to speak Spanish because of an invasion 500 years ago by a bunch of greedy oppressive Christian fanatics.

[eg420ne]

i have to lock up my shit good or these stealing mexicans will take it all, dem bastards stoled my spare tire from my truck....i mean come-on stealing a spare tire, oh yeah my neighborhood infested with crackheads, and you know where to buy it whenever you see 4 or more pits in the yard...and then they hang their clothes on the fences, thats sooo shitty....:S2:

Does anyone here live in one of the border towns of texas/mexico......I can say they try to make good, but its overrun by corrupt people all around............drugs are rampant, murders are up, home invasion's are common now.........i dont even buy my cannabis here.....its sad my 73yr old aunt knows where to buy drugs, this place is shitty(im not talking about cannabis.)and its these other drugs that make cannabis look bad.................and idiots dont care...........like they say, every race has em....................

[Spoken Word]

The South Americans and Mexicans that I know would probably beat your ass for calling them Latino or Hispanic because they are neither.
My best friend in the world besides my wife is Edgar from Guatamala and speaks Spanish fluently but is not Hispanic at all, he is Guatamalan.
A Hispanic person is a person from Spain and Latin is a dead language that was used by the Catholic church to oppress people.
The words Hispanic and Latino are insults to the Spanish speaking people I know that are proud of their true heritage.
When the Spaniards got here 500 years ago, they raped and pillaged, murdered and infested the native peoples with new deadly diseases along with wiping out whole new to them races of peoples lifestyle and making them Christains.
Columbians are not Hispanics either, they are Columbians that just so happen to speak Spanish because of an invasion 500 years ago by a bunch of greedy oppressive Christian fanatics.
lol thanks for the ColOmbian history lesson. at least you tried but too bad you are terribly wrong.
Colombians, like Puerto Ricans and Domincans, have an uneven mix of black, native and white(spanish) features.
Unlike mexicans and central americans or peru, bolivia, ecuador where you see dominant "native" features. If I had to guess it's because of the vast mayan and Incan(and MANY other)civilizations. But it's all relative because everyone is so different.

Your friends wouldn't "beat my ass" either(that's for sure lol), because I wouldn't call them "hispanics". I used the word "hispanic" because I was typing in English and it's how the U.S. classifies anyone that speaks spanish. Some central american countries get offended at calling them "mexican" too, most likely your "Guatalamalan" friend. But that's just misplaced pride.

I rather not make this an issue because it's stupid to argue my culture against someone that's talking about shit they heard.

The reply was reffered towards me and let me tell you....
I don't know what your intention was but all you accomplished was negative.
you come off kind of edgy and I don't appreciate it. besides, half the shit you said is "off".
so before you coment on someones culture, be sure of what comes out of your mouth, you might offend someone.

[Demeter]

That's pretty cool, Demeter. It's like saying that you take power away from your emotions when you express them, you accept that the anger and frustration is a part of you and "allow" it to manifest in a form other than denial or bitterness. And that's the opposite of racism.

Beautifully expressed, my friend!

[BallTillufall]

Don't trip man, everyones racist in some ways, can't really do shit about it. Be proud of where ur from, o yea and if ur town is full of crackheads who ever is getting their shit stolen, put what u need inside, or tie up ur firestones don't blame it on mexicans haha idiot.

[fasterspider]

I used the word "hispanic" because I was typing in English and it's how the U.S. classifies anyone that speaks spanish.

If my reply to your post offended you or you took it negatively, I apologize. It was not meant to be offensive.

I stand alone in this world.

If the Spaniards had not come to this side of the world with their Christian ideologies, you and I may never have been born and Columbians would be speaking some native South American tongue instead of one of the many dialects of Spanish.

[MadSativa]

Does anyone here live in one of the border towns of texas/mexico......I can say they try to make good, but its overrun by corrupt people all around............drugs are rampant, murders are up, home invasion's are common now.........i dont even buy my cannabis here.....its sad my 73yr old aunt knows where to buy drugs, this place is shitty(im not talking about cannabis.)and its these other drugs that make cannabis look bad.................and idiots dont care...........like they say, every race has em....................

yeah Im close to the boarder we got problems like that but we have always had problems like that in this area all the way back to the Aztecs taking sacrifices from around here to even before then. The big problems here are keep out buy the people but lots of little problems such as home invaders been shot, crack heads getting their ass knock out, and outsiders comming in trying to say their way of life is better that is my pet peev. Why cant I watch a cock fight how eles do you teach your kids sometimes the fight is to the death. You dont go to Espania and bann bullfights, violance is a part of life it is simple physics. I wouldnt trade where I live for nuthin, balance of life is important and here it is in your face from one extreem to the other.

[Spoken Word]

^i dunno about all that. But i know what you mean.

There are a lot of things about the "latin" or "hispanic" culture that I don't agree with.
Personally, the U.S. culture and civilization is WAY ahead of most latin countries. they are great to visit or spend some vacation time but as far living there? they are very un-developed countries. i much rather have my children in the U.S.
100%

[Peruvian Devil]

thats true, but keep in mind that the reason this country is so developed is because of all the immigrants that come from all over the world, people in other countries such as India, China, Japan go to school and college there but then they come to the US because of offers they get from companies, if the US was to developed by itself, it would be a fourth world country. I'm sorry to say but the schools here suck, when i came here i was 12 and everything they were teachin i had learned like in second grade, im not even kidding, then i went to a privet school that was suppoced to be good but all they were teaching i already knew from way back, and then went back to public school for my junior year and i new all the stuff from when i was in 5th grade in Peru, and here is one more year of school than in Peru, right now my friend is going to college yet i still have one more year to go. If you don't believe me you can look up rankings of the countries, the US is way way down. So if your are proud of your country don't ever put immigrants down, because 1- you would not be here if it wasn't for immigrants, unless you are a native American, and 2- without immigrants the US would be but a fraction of what it is 2day.

[Spoken Word]

You're right. the public grade schools here in the U.S. are horrible and half the students STILL don't graduate. lol
but if you have the money and want to pay for schooling, college or a university, the U.S. has some of the best to offer. what countries public school system is as "caring" as the u.s? from what i've heard the public school system in most countries is terrible.

and yes, this country was based on immigrants but that argument is played out.
that was CENTURIES ago.

i look more towards the future and I rather raise my children in this country, rather than ANY part of the world.

[Anubis10012007]

That sucks. The rural Americans tend to be more gung ho and really conservative when it comes to these issues. Why do you think most of them are Republicans?! We in the north and the city are known as the "godless liberals". If you really want to piss them off though in a non violent way, take a King James Version Bible or Ann Coulter book and burn it right in front of their face. I assume you are Catholic if you are from Columbia.

This is not about immigration. Violence is no excuse at all. That is terrible. You really tend to find that ridiculous shit amongst the rural bunch as opposed to liberals. Most Conservatives have a very backwards mindset. My grandmother still thinks it is fucking 1888 and believes that homosexuality is wrong because it says so in the Bible. They were prejudice before too.

No offense, but most Latin Americans look the same, at least to me. If I saw you, I would probably think you are Mexican. But I would not give a shit. I'm a peaceful and accepting person.

I do not hate groups of people at all. I am not prejudice. It is what you do that reflects the quality of your character. An asshole is still an asshole.

Hang in there. If you are being severely harassed, call the police. You never know if they will use brute force with pitchforks. I would recommend arming yourself with a gun if possible.

[make it legal]

While it's awful to spit on someone, well, to do anything like that because of race, is horrible, I can sort of understand the accent thing. I mean, it may not just be because shes Hispanic, but just because it's funny. I mean, I make fun of my own Dad's Spanish accent.

But yeah in general I see where you're coming from. It's horrible to be like those people you were talking about.

[Peruvian Devil]

this country was based on immigrants but that argument is played out
are you on crack? this country IS and always WILL be based on immigrants, unless the US does something as retarded as kicking every immigrant out,in which case there just wont be a US anymore. And it is not just public schools that are low on the ratings, it is the country as a whole. :)

[Spoken Word]

no, im not on crack. im high.
and that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

personaly, i think it's a destructive way of thinking. and im all for a productive way of life. i think this is a great country. a little harsh on my taxes though.

[Peruvian Devil]

its not an opinion its a fact, this country would die without immigrants, and as far as taxes go, immigrants who want to become legal (which is most if not all) pay taxes because it helps them get their citizenship when they ask for it, so in reality when it comes to taxes your government would much rather have us as citizens than actual Americans. just to be clear I'm not attacking you in any way, just spittin some facts for the peeps reading this :jointsmile:

[Spoken Word]

oh is that what you're doing. lol "spittin facts for the peeps reading this"

you sound bitter towards "america"(the u.s.)... therefor your "facts" are biased..
i still consider them "opinions".
prove the shit you are talking is true, then I'll debate it with you. until then, i think you are about as ignorant as the guys I encountered in the bar.

[tumbleweed]

only color that matters is green and whether you got enough of it to shut fools up

[hero3279]

There will always be racists. Just shows what a sad world we're in. Racists are just narrow minded idiots who take their securities out on other people. In the end you will find there are more good people in the world than bad, it's YOUR job to keep it that way. One wrong turn doesn't deserve another. Just smile man :)

[stinkyattic]

eg420ne- I merged your posts so the first one would not be taken out of context- it sounded pretty bad!!!! Just make very sure everyone can see the sarcasm, okay?

[NextLineIsMine]

and this is why I dislike Al Sharpton

[Nation_1ne]

When I was in Florida a friend and I visited a beach. We were playing ball all day and pretty worn out. Anyway we walked by a Hispanic family who were near us, we all got chatting and they offered us food and drink. We were complete strangers to them, and they just invited us into the family gathering, I thought it was really decent of them.