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adh endo
01-16-2005, 11:40 PM
i think guns like these help and everybody should have them
:D
Hektik
01-16-2005, 11:54 PM
Guns are the shit
Kingslay3r
01-17-2005, 12:08 AM
guns doesnt kill people
people kills people
EverydayJunglist
01-17-2005, 12:16 AM
One on top is an ak i believe,the other im not sure.Yea i love guns, my bros got a colt ar-15,$800 scope,bipod on it and a rotary clip,all pimp0ed out. and a chinese sks(similar to an ak).I think normally the sks would be gay except hes got a 30rd clip on it so it looks mean. Id sell em both and get an uzi personally but oh well.when all is said and done though id rather pull a bong rip then a trigger,but won't hesitate on either:))
peace
Legend
01-17-2005, 12:16 AM
"I think bullets should cost 5,000 dollars...cause if bullets cost 5,000 dollars there'd be no more innocent bystanders. ..Man he must have done something, they put 50,000 dollars worth of bullets in his ass.." "I'm gonna get me a second job, start saving some money, and you're a dead man... you better hope I can't get no bullets on layaway...."
Delta9
01-17-2005, 12:20 AM
My My My.
In a combat situation the AK is probably your best choice.
I hope you not from Iran because I'm an American.
Nullific
01-17-2005, 12:20 AM
Guns are pretty fun. Like drugs they are harmless when used responsibly.
EverydayJunglist
01-17-2005, 12:22 AM
legend--that from a chris rock show
Legend
01-17-2005, 12:25 AM
legend--that from a chris rock show
yup i know :)
Delta9
01-17-2005, 12:29 AM
all you need are those new armor peircing hollow tips they made.
They work like normal hollow points when they hit the target but they will go through a vest and then explode. They do the same if the target doesen't vave a vest on too.
some cute little toys they have nowadays.
LilRedDevil
01-17-2005, 12:54 AM
i think guns like these help and everybody should have them
:D
Help what? I grew up with guns and handling guns, I have hunted gone to the gun club but see no need for those! IMO! I agree that it's "not the gun" it's the asshole shooting it who kills!
ghostman420
01-17-2005, 12:56 AM
lmao at lilred
adh endo
01-17-2005, 01:12 AM
the ak is lots of fun,
the other is a generic shotgun,
i used to carve up in waterfights with an ak, but now i prefer to smoke what i refer to as buds.
the shotgun sucks now, its broken and the bullets dont even make it to the other end of my room now.
i had a pic of my uzi and my luger and potatoe gun too, if you wanna see them.
adh endo
01-17-2005, 01:16 AM
ooops that was my hunting knife, my luger is downstairs in a drawer..
adh endo
01-17-2005, 01:18 AM
i got in trouble as a kid for shooting my little sister with some of those guns..
Delta9
01-17-2005, 01:24 AM
Is she still alive?
poorman3
01-17-2005, 01:41 AM
all those weapons look like plastic toys to me. lol. are they???
Day Dreamin Faze
01-17-2005, 03:41 AM
yes you can tell by the orange tip on the uzi...But I dont see a bigg thing with guns, I love them and have grown up with them,learned them and shot them. Guns dont kill dumb ass people do.
GHoSToKeR
01-17-2005, 04:09 AM
how come im the only person that doesnt like guns? i thought stoners were cool, but most people on this site are all into guns and knives and shit :(
LearyS Disciple
01-17-2005, 04:49 AM
u guys are all insane "i love guns guns are the shit" man guns are so terrible u guys need to realize that. right on ghost
adh endo
01-17-2005, 06:51 AM
yes they are all plastic
i think only armies should have guns
ps. its not an uzi its a ?
and its only half a potatoe gun.
poorman3
01-17-2005, 06:58 AM
why would you post pictures of plastic guns. are you 10 years old?
robert42
01-17-2005, 11:22 AM
lmfao didnt u guys know str8 away on the poll it said THESE GUNS ARE PLASTIC.
lol @10 years old
slipnslide087
01-17-2005, 02:46 PM
ive just got a walther P22 and i also got the extended barrel that looks like a silencer, but it doesnt silence at all. it helps the accuracy and looks cool. that gun is accurate as hell though. i like it better than the P99 9mm. did you guys know that most professional killers preferred weapon is a 22 cal handgun. hell yeah
az666
01-17-2005, 02:56 PM
guns suck..whoeva has them, be it army, gangstas, pimps, hunters..whateva.
fz3r0
01-17-2005, 03:40 PM
My target gun, does good groups upto 200 yards :)
Old Winchester, Bushnell 3-9x 40mm adjustable Objective
EverydayJunglist
01-17-2005, 05:59 PM
damn that ak looked real,i think the one u said was an uzi would be a tech 9 if it was real---possibly--what are they those aerosoft ones with the little blue pellets?
Mello.as.Hello
01-17-2005, 06:30 PM
how come im the only person that doesnt like guns? i thought stoners were cool, but most people on this site are all into guns and knives and shit :(
You're not alone.. Assholes just type faster, I guess.
sawleaf
01-17-2005, 07:01 PM
ive just got a walther P22 and i also got the extended barrel that looks like a silencer, but it doesnt silence at all. it helps the accuracy and looks cool. that gun is accurate as hell though. i like it better than the P99 9mm. did you guys know that most professional killers preferred weapon is a 22 cal handgun. hell yeah
I just bought a P22 also. Great pistol, just put 1000 rounds through it and didn't have a single malfunction! Yeah it is very acturate and the tiny recoil helps with better follow up shots. Going to buy a suppressor for it. :)
chrace
01-17-2005, 07:05 PM
guns? I only use a bow and arrow
sawleaf
01-17-2005, 07:06 PM
You're not alone.. Assholes just type faster, I guess.
So you are saying all gun owners are assholes I'm assuming??? That's a very stupid, ignorant and opinionated thing to say. I bet you think all gun owners are Bush loving, deer hunting, rednecks also.. :rolleyes:
Ya people who say guns make you safer that is all BS. America has the most guns per citizens than any other country and we still have the higher death rate via guns. If guns made you safe then America would be the safest country. Watch Bowling for Columbine if you already havent... a Real eye opener
fz3r0
01-18-2005, 03:11 AM
Ya people who say guns make you safer that is all BS. America has the most guns per citizens than any other country and we still have the higher death rate via guns. If guns made you safe then America would be the safest country. Watch Bowling for Columbine if you already havent... a Real eye opener
A gun is a machine, it dosen't think on its own, it dosen't fire on its own, it's the person that interviens with the machine that determines that outcome of using a gun. Sitting around me I can name off 10 different items I could use as a weapon to harm//kill someone, but it won't happen without human intervention. Gun's theoretically can make you more safe, that is why Ohio just passed the "Carry" law, where if you pay a monthly fee and take the required courses and have the right certificates and apply at the sherrif's dept, you can leagally carry a concealed weapon in Ohio. Guns kill people no doubt, but its usually as a result of substance abuse or psychological disorder. Bowling for Colombine is a good movie, was pretty funny =p
What im trying to say, is I target shoot and I like it
Don't Kill people
and save the whales
Dont mind me, im coming down from a dxm trip, at that deep thinking phase O_O.........
Encatuse
01-18-2005, 11:13 AM
Watch Bowling for Columbine if you already havent... a Real eye opener
Look into the factuality of some of the statistics in that movie. It's interesting. There's a book out called "Michael Moore is a Big Fat Stupid White Man". ;) Might wanna download it ((its been typed up)) or peek inside it at a library.
slipnslide087
01-18-2005, 04:03 PM
first of all......statistics are bullshit...for the MOST part....i would say about 1 in 20 statistics might be valid. damn maybe not even that much
sawleaf
01-18-2005, 06:42 PM
Ya people who say guns make you safer that is all BS. America has the most guns per citizens than any other country and we still have the higher death rate via guns. If guns made you safe then America would be the safest country. Watch Bowling for Columbine if you already havent... a Real eye opener
Guns may not make your country safer, but they don't make your country more dangerous either. Pro-gun and anti-gun activsts use many countries as examples for their arguments, but there doesn't seems to be any sure proof that taking guns away or letting people have guns effects the crime rate anyways. I guess it all depends on the type of people. Look at the Swiss, every household has firearms there and it is a very safe country, Austrailia has harsh anti-gun laws that currently passed and crime is on the rise. There are many places with strict gun control laws that have low crime, but many with high crime rates also. Gun control works in some places, but makes crime worst in other areas. I don't care about the crime rates, when the issue of firearm ownership comes up. For me it all comes down to this. Does anyone have the right to say you can't own a firearm? Who has the right to choose what you can or can't defend yourself with? Lets say guns never were invented. Who has the right to say you can't own a bow, sword, or sharpen a damn stick. If the government is saying you can't own something to protect yourself with, because they don't want you to hurt soomeone else with it or commit a crime, isn't that implying that you have criminal intent? Why not enforce the laws we have on the books currently(we have a lot) instead of just adding new laws and not enforcing them? Guns cause crime like flies cause shit.
always my fault
01-18-2005, 07:01 PM
that came from chris rock - get in the kitchen and bring me my big piece of chicken
always my fault
01-18-2005, 07:09 PM
can we start a program that will allow people to trade there guns in for a bong and a fat sack. i would bet $$$$ gun violence would drop faster than tyson in a fight.
sawleaf
01-18-2005, 09:06 PM
can we start a program that will allow people to trade there guns in for a bong and a fat sack. i would bet $$$$ gun violence would drop faster than tyson in a fight.
What about the non-violent gun owners out there? You do know that everyone that owns a firearm is not a violent person right? I certanly enjoy an afternoon of shooting much more than an afternoon of toking. :)
slipnslide087
01-18-2005, 10:29 PM
i 2nd that notion,,,and sawleafs other notions, because they are right.
ItokeALLday420
01-18-2005, 10:48 PM
guns suck..whoeva has them, be it army, gangstas, pimps, hunters..whateva.
no...
Mello.as.Hello
01-19-2005, 01:19 PM
So you are saying all gun owners are assholes I'm assuming??? That's a very stupid, ignorant and opinionated thing to say. I bet you think all gun owners are Bush loving, deer hunting, rednecks also.. :rolleyes:
I'm too tired too argue this. I'm a very strict pacifist, and a Buddhist for 14 years. I don't believe that guns will EVER have a place in my home, nor do I feel the benefits will ever outweigh the consequences/risks.
Safe gun ownership simply is not possible, but reasonably safe gun ownership may be. And if that is how you live your life, then so be it. I personally feel that a gun only adds problems to a situation, regardless of who holds it.
I guess we'll find out who's right in the next life, eh?
Torog
01-19-2005, 02:00 PM
I'm too tired too argue this. I'm a very strict pacifist, and a Buddhist for 14 years. I don't believe that guns will EVER have a place in my home, nor do I feel the benefits will ever outweigh the consequences/risks.
Safe gun ownership simply is not possible, but reasonably safe gun ownership may be. And if that is how you live your life, then so be it. I personally feel that a gun only adds problems to a situation, regardless of who holds it.
I guess we'll find out who's right in the next life, eh?
Howdy Mello.as.Hello,
The first part of your response,is absolutely true for you..you have no business being around guns..and I commend you for your self-discipline. You have chosen the Soft path...and a warrior's path-is not for you.
Safe small-arms handling is possible,it simply requires a zero-error policy,a policy which warriors are familiar with..because to err..could be deadly.
As a Christian,I should be following the Soft path,but it's not within my nature..my instinct is to protect and guard..the World needs those who can walk the Soft path and hold Peace in their hearts..but they are like lambs..and need protection from the wolves.
Vaya con Dios
Have a good one...Torog :)
GHoSToKeR
01-19-2005, 05:57 PM
warrior?? Who are you fighting Torog? Who are you defending us from?
Reefer Rogue
01-19-2005, 06:30 PM
beware of evil liberals mwahahahahahahaha :rolleyes:
sawleaf
01-19-2005, 07:24 PM
I think he is talking about the warrior mindset. Always ready. Nothing wrong with that. :)
clevemire
01-19-2005, 08:25 PM
I'm too tired too argue this. I'm a very strict pacifist, and a Buddhist for 14 years. I don't believe that guns will EVER have a place in my home, nor do I feel the benefits will ever outweigh the consequences/risks.
Safe gun ownership simply is not possible, but reasonably safe gun ownership may be. And if that is how you live your life, then so be it. I personally feel that a gun only adds problems to a situation, regardless of who holds it.
I guess we'll find out who's right in the next life, eh?It's not that you're too tired. You're just too ignorant. Disguising your opinions and beliefs as facts doesn't count as any kind of agument. Try again, Dali.
I'll admit, I don't like guns that much either. They honestly make me nervous. However, if an intruder invaded my home with a weapon and had ill intent, no flower or form of meditation would stop him/her. Of course, you could use the whole "That's not helping the cause" argument, but I never said American citizens shouldn't have guns.
Go hang out with Richard Gere.
poorman3
01-19-2005, 09:11 PM
for all the people that don`t like guns cool, thats your choice. for the rest of us that do like guns whether its for hunting, target shooting or protection, thats our choice. leave it at that. gun haters need not call upon gun lovers for help when your in need of protection from someone raping your woman or robbing your mommy. call 911 and wait for the "cops" to arrive. peace.
The C
01-19-2005, 09:39 PM
Hey. I'm not to sure. I'm nor warrior, still have to grow my back bone...
But i'm thining of buying a gun, once i get paid.
Yeah belive it or not. I'm not sure why. I think it's to protect myself and the people around me if this world goes to shits. I'm not going down without a fight. Wehn i comes down to it, ro someone i care about, i will want to fight back, with all my heart.
Yes people kill people, and if it ever comes to the point where i kill someone, then it's as it is, I'm a killer then. Yep, i guess that'll make me the evil some of you dispise.
If somone is infrignign on my rights, they better watch out. They stepped across the line, not me, from then on it's game. If a corrupt police, and the blood thirsty armed forces can have the power to kill, by all means so should the individual/citazen.
I don't think killing is a positive thing, it's just a thing. I consider myself a moral person, i used to be a pacifist. But i've seen to much thats happened to me as a lamb. I want to be a warrior.... But i dont know how. My moms a lamb, and i never see my father... Any tips on being a warrior?
GHoSToKeR
01-20-2005, 02:14 AM
People only think they need a gun because theyve had this 'Kill or be killed' idea imprinted on their minds.. Frankly, if somebody is going to shoot me, and I had a gun, I still wouldnt shoot them. Simple as that. Im no important than anyone else, and nobody is more important than me.
zarathustra
01-20-2005, 02:55 AM
I used to work on a gun range, and I got to love the smell of gunpowder in the morning.
You know, birdshot can only penetrate the human epidermis for approximately 95 meters on a regulation charge.
But it stings like hell up to 130, this I know.
That's always an awkward call to mother..."Hello? Yeah, some redneck shot me in the ass today. What's for dinner?"
Never a serious injury from stray shots, though a trap (target launcher) sent a buddy to the hospital.
How's that for irony?
Ghost, it isn't that I want to kill or protect myself thereof, it's that guns go boom, and also provide a better way to get rid of the old (or new) TV if there's room in the van before work.
In the end, just remember two timeless quotes:
"My name's Petey the Pistol! If you squeeze me, I make bad people go away!"
and
"Did you know Jesus and Moses used guns to conquer the Romans?"
Do you think any wife might let me name my kid Turdfurter Von Petrovich?
GHoSToKeR
01-20-2005, 03:34 AM
Perhaps. If you asked her nicely. And offered her a sandwich. Not tuna, though.
zarathustra
01-20-2005, 03:43 AM
If a universal definition of love was ever determined, it would no doubt include that knowlege, and I thank you.
GHoSToKeR
01-20-2005, 04:03 AM
It was, and it did, and there's no need. :)
zarathustra
01-20-2005, 04:06 AM
Have you ever realized how abstract definitions are usually best solved by having sex with it?
poorman3
01-20-2005, 04:16 AM
People only think they need a gun because theyve had this 'Kill or be killed' idea imprinted on their minds.. Frankly, if somebody is going to shoot me, and I had a gun, I still wouldnt shoot them. Simple as that. Im no important than anyone else, and nobody is more important than me.
ghost you don`t know what i think about guns. why would you say that people only think they need a gun? i know your a smart guy but, what you said there sounds like you think that you can read minds. lol. then what you said next about not shooting someone even knowing that they were going to shoot you is just stupid or your just talking shit. if a crack head was going to shoot you while robbing you, would you let him or her do that if you had a gun to protect yourself ? if you still say that you would let them shoot you, well your just crazy or like i said before just talking shit. i think your more important than any crack head or criminal and i`ve never met you. peace to you on your crimeless island. i forgot where it was. there must not be much crime there. lol.
Garden Knowm
01-20-2005, 04:22 AM
Nuclear bombs don't kill... just the people who drop them... right?
Garden Knowm
01-20-2005, 04:26 AM
I heard,
.... that guns and weapons are good if ya got a whole lot of ignorance to defend.. the more guns and weapons you have... the more ignorant you are... simple math.. really...
Is that true?
The C
01-20-2005, 04:36 AM
What if someone had intended to kill you. You would negelct the justice done to yourself, you would be condoning murder anyways, by letting it happen. What if someone was going to/shot your mother? Or amputate your dog? What fi it's you you care about, are you any less for it?
Sedater18
01-20-2005, 08:15 AM
No moral is stronger than the will of instenct to survive.
I own a 462-98-IC-PT22-tech91 with scopes (ten of them) as powerful as the hubble
it utilizez laser targeting and can project a light on the moon
it allows me to turn invisible, like the predator, and stalk my prey perfectly
it's bullets go 10 times the speed of light, and are powered by duel ion engines
the bullets explode into 20 different mirrors that reflect your stupidity inside of your wound after drilling through at least 1 inch of meterail
each bullet ways 1 pound and must be stored at at least 120 degrees farenhiet
there is no recoil, a silencer, and flash surpresser
it can inject meth into my finger if I have to be up all night in combat
when I got it I also bought hover boats and I can float for 19 hours
only about 9 feet off of the ground "enough to snipe over a wall"
EVERY bullet is tipped with sliverr over titanum (to kills werewolves and armored units)
if I am in close combat the upper end of it conducts about 10 million watts of electricty
I belivie it will help me through any situtation involving any type of combatants
I know what your thinking, what about ghosts and vampires?
DONT WORRY I GOT IT UNDER CONTROL
crosses are carved into the tips of everybullet
a ray, like that of the ghostbusters, thank traquilzez and fucks up ghost.
how about mother nature?
it dispatches an emergency parka at any time, and heats shit up
food? the butt of the gun administers high-tech vitamin pills with every thing that my body needs to preforme efficiently for 6 hours (it carries 39) and Vicodin (50).
Im so fUCKED uP :o :confused: :rolleyes: :)
Torog
01-20-2005, 12:33 PM
warrior?? Who are you fighting Torog? Who are you defending us from?
Howdy GhostToker,
The obvious answer: satan and his minions..of course !
The minions are legion,and the legions are many..the Darkness grows..who among you, will stand with me-against the Darkness ?
O Lord...I beseech thee..clad me in the armor of Arch-Angel Michael..fill my hand-with the fiery Sword of thy Wrath..clad my crown with the helmet of Faith..and grant me the Shield of Righteousness...clad my feet with the war-boots that will trample the Grapes of Wrath..and lead me to victory-over thine enemies..O Lord..if it be thy Will..Amen.
Have a good one...Torog :D
NowhereMan
01-20-2005, 12:49 PM
Ya people who say guns make you safer that is all BS. America has the most guns per citizens than any other country and we still have the higher death rate via guns. If guns made you safe then America would be the safest country. Watch Bowling for Columbine if you already havent... a Real eye opener
FUCK MR MOORE AND HIS BOWLING FOR SHIT LIES
dont you dumass pansy mofo's know if people like me didnt have a gun
the hardcore criminals would just walk in and take what they wanted?
but facing those who are armed is another story
they dont want to be shot so they prey on the ones with no protection
see in west virginia even lil ol grannies are known to pack a hogleg 357 around and nobody gonna fuck with her becuase she May have one ready to cap your punk ass ,
guns are tools its the people who are fools
gun safety is must,its a dangerous tool
but just a tool
so like i say
you get rid of every thing thats used to kill, FINE
if not shut the fuck up about me owning a gun
im 40, 5ft 9inches tall wieghht 120 lbs
half crippled and not healthy,means easy prey to a young 20 year old
meth addict,,so a gun keeps them from doing me harm and taking my life and property ,it stops them that have any sense that is,some dont care if you have a gun or not they just have a death wish anyway
i have the right to protect myself and my family and i need a gun to do it
cuase im not biuldt like hulk hogan,
nor would i want to be really
peace to those that want it
fuck the rest of ya
Torog
01-20-2005, 01:21 PM
Howdy NWM,
Stay Safe--Stay Armed !!
On of my goals is to aquire a good pistol for concealed-carry,because I'm disabled too and I don't want to be an easy target for crack-heads and meth-heads. I'd like to see how one of these here anti-gunners,would reason with a drug addict-that's all strung out and jonesing..lol.
I refuse to be a victim !
Have a good one...Torog :D
clevemire
01-20-2005, 02:40 PM
People only think they need a gun because theyve had this 'Kill or be killed' idea imprinted on their minds.. Frankly, if somebody is going to shoot me, and I had a gun, I still wouldnt shoot them. Simple as that. Im no important than anyone else, and nobody is more important than me.I see what you're saying, Ghost. However, just because you don't agree with or understand something, doesn't make it wrong. Like poorman said: How can you know what people think? You can't speak for everyone.
Sit back, relax, and light it up. Life's too short to condemn everything that's inconceivable.
sawleaf
01-20-2005, 04:45 PM
I heard,
.... that guns and weapons are good if ya got a whole lot of ignorance to defend.. the more guns and weapons you have... the more ignorant you are... simple math.. really...
Is that true?
What ignorance? You are showing me a lot of ignorance with your post. I enjoy shooting and hope I never have to use a firearm to defend myself, but if so, I am ready. What is wrong with that? I don't bitch at people who choose not to own firearms. Why is it that firearm owners don't hate people who choose not to own them, but people without guns seem to hate those who own them and want their firearms taken away? I am so fucking sick of people trying to stop me from owning guns. I am not a criminal or an evil person for choosing to arm myself. If you don't like guns, fine, but don't fuck with our rights or treat firearm owners like they are any less human than you.
clevemire
01-20-2005, 10:00 PM
LOL
GHoSToKeR
01-20-2005, 10:29 PM
I see what you're saying, Ghost. However, just because you don't agree with or understand something, doesn't make it wrong. Like poorman said: How can you know what people think? You can't speak for everyone.
Sit back, relax, and light it up. Life's too short to condemn everything that's inconceivable.
Good point, Cleve..
Okay, so maybe its not the guns themselves that I dislike, but the mindset of the people that carry guns.. the whole 'kill or be killed' thing.. If nobody had a gun, then nobody would need guns.. putting more guns into circulation isnt going to help..
anyway, I digress.. I guess im just going through my 'rebellious phase' that all teenagers go through.. hopefully, when i grow up, i'll start to conform like most people............................................ .......... :rolleyes:
clevemire
01-20-2005, 10:35 PM
anyway, I digress.. I guess im just going through my 'rebellious phase' that all teenagers go through.. hopefully, when i grow up, i'll start to conform like most people............................................ .......... :rolleyes:Well,... I wouldn't call it conformity. It's not really for the sake of a unanimous opinion...
More like.. when you get older and more mature, you just realize that some things will never change in your lifetime. No matter what you say or do. Time is better spent focusing on things you can change and do.
In any case, no worries. :)
I read somewhere that once Abraham Lincoln was challenged to a duel, and since it was the right of the challenged party to choose the weapon, he suggested potatos.
I don't quite know how this fits the subject, but it always made me think, historically correct or not.
Firearms, roofing hammers, automobiles, tactical nuclear weapons, bare hands, and probably even potatos have been used by people to take the lives of others, and what does it all prove? That there are those in this world who would resort to the use of deadly physical force, for numerous reasons. I think it's the willingness to kill, and the reasons, that are really what should be examined.
If the right to posess a weapon of any kind were linked to an individuals level of responsibility, none of this would be much of an issue. But we've all seen individuals driving, getting high, drinking, or just expressing their opinions, without regard to the effect their actions have on others, so the gun question is just an extension of a more basic issue.
While I like to think I'm respectful of the opinions of others, I sure wouldn't want to give up my squirrel rifle just because someone else thinks it might seem politically incorrect.
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GHoSToKeR
01-23-2005, 11:13 PM
Americans are conditioned to live in a constant state of fear and paranoia. Youre fed this fear by your news media and government, which makes you feel like you're in constant danger and that everybody and anything alien to you is a threat.. No wonder you start wars all over the world, and have thousands and thousands of gun-deaths every year... if you're in fear, then you'll think you need to protect yourself, hence more guns... its sad, and im happy i dont live there
I have to agree with you, fear breeds violence, maybe second only to greed.
As I re-read my last post, I noticed that I'd missed one important point; if weapons were somehow related to responsibility, there probably wouldn't be any.
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poorman3
01-24-2005, 11:08 AM
Americans are conditioned to live in a constant state of fear and paranoia. Youre fed this fear by your news media and government, which makes you feel like you're in constant danger and that everybody and anything alien to you is a threat.. No wonder you start wars all over the world, and have thousands and thousands of gun-deaths every year... if you're in fear, then you'll think you need to protect yourself, hence more guns... its sad, and im happy i dont live there
there you go again ghostoker. you don`t know how we as americans are brought up. how our parents raised us. saying that americans are conditioned to live in a state of fear and paranoia. your not american, you said so yourself. i personaly don`t live in a state of fear or paranoia. i live in the country. there is crime in the country but not so much that i live in fear and paranoia. why do you think that you know what americans are like? do you get that from the television, radio or newspaper? do you beleive everything you hear about americans? that we are all the same, living in fear and paranoia? i`m happy you don`t live here in america also. i wished you would come and visit though. if you ever do visit america come to north carolina and see the country, outside of a big city. you may learn something. maybe you would stop thinking every american is some kind of paranoid, gun toting, dumbass that can`t think for themself. i have said before i think your a smart guy but with post like that you are about to convince me otherwise. peace man.
slipnslide087
01-24-2005, 03:09 PM
OK....apparently one thing isnt clear to all these people against gun owners. ok listen carefully damnit, then it wont have to be repeated. gun deaths are high of course, but if there were no guns, then naturally, some other category would be higher.....like maybe stabbing deaths for instance.....would that a signal that we need to outlaw knives???? FUCK NO....ok if you were going to kill someone, what would you use....guns are very efficient, that is why a lot of people kill with them, fast to the point, no clean up, and very little physical effort. that is why people kill with guns. guns dont make people want to kill.....and if there were no more guns, then a bunch of people would die another way......(and probably more painful) if you dont understand what i am saying, just ask. peace
clevemire
01-24-2005, 03:16 PM
there you go again ghostoker. you don`t know how we as americans are brought up. how our parents raised us. saying that americans are conditioned to live in a state of fear and paranoia. your not american, you said so yourself. i personaly don`t live in a state of fear or paranoia. i live in the country. there is crime in the country but not so much that i live in fear and paranoia. why do you think that you know what americans are like? do you get that from the television, radio or newspaper? do you beleive everything you hear about americans? that we are all the same, living in fear and paranoia? i`m happy you don`t live here in america also. i wished you would come and visit though. if you ever do visit america come to north carolina and see the country, outside of a big city. you may learn something. maybe you would stop thinking every american is some kind of paranoid, gun toting, dumbass that can`t think for themself. i have said before i think your a smart guy but with post like that you are about to convince me otherwise. peace man.Again, I have to agree. Where are you getting this, Ghost? Since when you did you become a political media giant? How do you know all of this?
I think it's funny, because you talk about what we're being fed by our media... But how do you know a real damn thing about what truly goes in in America, besides what you've been shown by your media? Since when have you personally come over and taken a look? You think you can base an entire country off of message boards and media? Please.
True, our leaders are a bunch of old fart cock suckers, but don't start grouping all Americans into the picture. That's like us basing your country's entire population off of Blair and his cohorts.
I'm also not happy with the way things are being run in my country. But what you see and hear over there isn't all of America. We're all entitled to our opinions here, but personally.... You insult my country, you insult me. I loved growing up here, and I love living here. All that leaving the country talk was just post-political hot air (at least from me). I know this is my home.
You're the one who is sad here. And I'm certainly glad you don't live over here, either.
poorman3
01-24-2005, 04:02 PM
thanks clevemire, we need more folks like you around here who will speak up and tell it like it is. not every american will do that. there are a lot of americans on this board that have`nt said nothing. i guess they just want to get stoned and hope someone else will speak up for them. i don`t see anything wrong with someone getting stoned but, to sit back and let people talk about america that way is not very patriotic to be an american. whether they like guns or not. peace.
billie
01-24-2005, 04:15 PM
[/QUOTE]... I guess im just going through my 'rebellious phase' that all teenagers go through.. hopefully, when i grow up, i'll start to conform like most people............................................ .......... :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
If you only strive for mediocrity, you will achieve it.
billie
01-24-2005, 04:20 PM
OH AND BY THE WAY,
billie
01-24-2005, 04:34 PM
oh never mind
billie
01-24-2005, 05:04 PM
AS I WAS READING ALL THIS FINE LITRATURE ON THIS THREAD I SWEAR I COULD HEAR THE MIND BABBLINGS OF GEORGE CARLIN, BILL MAHR, DENNIS MILLER, AND OTHER MENTAL GIANTS. I FEEL SO FORTUNATE TO SHARE THE AIR ON THIS PLANET WITH SUCH PROFOUND GREATNESS OF CLARITY.
pay no attention to me, it's just the weed talkin.
GHoSToKeR
01-25-2005, 12:02 AM
FACT: The Bush administration told the American public that Iraq and Afghanistan needed to be invaded, and Saddam and the Taliban removed, because the USA was in iminent danger from a terrorist attack.
FACT: After 9/11 there was news report after news report telling you, the American public, that you were in iminent danger from a terrorist attack.
FACT: Many Americans I have met or communicated with that the American public is in danger from a terrorist attack. To quote one Californian I recently met, "They could strike any place, at any time.. We need to be prepared". Even Americans on this website say they need guns for 'protection'.
FACT: In Canada there are roughly 7 million guns (population 30.2m), compared to 222 million guns in the US (poulation 270m). This equates to 0.25 guns per capita in Canada, and 0.82 in the US.. (1998)
FACT: %27 of homicides in Canada were with firearms, compared to %66 in the US. thats a difference of x2.4 (1998)
FACT: The overall homicide rate in Canada is 1.83 in every 100,000. This is compared to 6.62 in the US. (1998)
So, based on these facts, more guns = more deaths. So dont give me any of this "you dont know us" bullshit, the facts speak for themselves. Later
poorman3
01-25-2005, 01:15 AM
[QUOTE=GHoSToKeR]FACT:So, based on these facts, more guns = more deaths. So dont give me any of this "you dont know us" bullshit, the facts speak for themselves. Later[/QUOT
FACT: CANADA SUCKS!
clevemire
01-25-2005, 03:20 AM
So dont give me any of this "you dont know us" bullshit, the facts speak for themselves. Later You don't. I'm glad you don't. I'd be ashamed to know you.
You're too full of hate, Ghost. If you dislike america so much, why don't you get off of this site, hosted no doubt by an American server, run by an American citizen? Hmm? It's prejudice minds like yours that keep this world in the hateful shape it's in. Not the fucking firearms.
You're a hateful little boy. I hope one day it comes back and bites you in the ass. And I hope it hurts like hell.
GHoSToKeR
01-25-2005, 03:30 AM
You don't. I'm glad you don't. I'd be ashamed to know you.
You're too full of hate, Ghost. If you dislike america so much, why don't you get off of this site, hosted no doubt by an American server, run by an American citizen? Hmm? It's prejudice minds like yours that keep this world in the hateful shape it's in. Not the fucking firearms.
You're a hateful little boy. I hope one day it comes back and bites you in the ass. And I hope it hurts like hell.
When did I say I hate America? I'm just proving the point that more guns = more crime, shootings, and violence. I dunno what you got sand in your vagina about, and frankly I dont give a shit. Stop being a pussy and crying just because something about your country isnt quite how you'd like to think. But, to be honest, I'm still puzzled over why you think I hate America? Yeah, I said theres more gun-crime, because there is. Yeah, I said I wouldnt like to live there, because I wouldnt; i'm much safer here. But I dont see how that makes me prejudice. And, Cleve, using that 'little boy' insult was a tad ironic , since i'm not the one who had to resort to name-calling because I got proved wrong.
I don't think you hate America, you've got a right to speak your mind, regardless. But didn't you say that the per capita in Canada was .25%, and in the U.S. it's .82%? Then you say that 27% Canadian homicides were gun related, and over here it's 66%. So, if I'm correct, their firearms homicides are about 1/3 to our 5/8, and yet their percentage of gun users is greatly lower. so it sounds like those who do have guns up there use them on their fellow citizens a bit more than we do.
No comment on the crime rate here, it's embarassingly high.
We are a violent race, and this country (America) is a player on that field, as well as were the English, Germans, French, Russians....get the point? "Let he who is without guilt cast the first stone" (guess who said that?). Alright, no more stones. No marshmallows, either. Have we made mistakes? Bet your ass! Are we (humanity) learning anything from them? No, don't think so. Are we all maddened killer animals over here that talk with a wiseguy Brooklyn accent and shoot the paperboy because he smarts off at our daughters? Get real. A handful of desert dancers smacked a couple of airplanes into our nice skyscrapers a while back; it wasn't anybody's imagination. It really isn't Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, anymore, maybe never was. Alvin York was a pacifist, until he saw what war was really like, and so was I. Now there's a line in the sand, and if you cross it, I'm going to hurt you, OK? There's a limit to how many cheeks a guy can turn.
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GHoSToKeR
01-25-2005, 05:52 AM
Look, I dont hate the USA, I dont think my country is better than the USA, I dont hate Americans, etc etc etc.. The only things I am arguing against are guns! The only reason I mentioned the USA is because people in this thread have stated that guns help to reduce crime.. I just pointed out that gun crime is higher in the US, as there are moe guns in the US. Thats all I was saying. I dont hate anyone, and im not saying your country is worse/better than mine, because nationalism (you can call it patriosm, but lets be frank, its nationalism) is bullshit. I just dont like guns. If anybody got offended because they though I was insulting the USA, then I apologize - that was not my intention. BUT, if anybody was offended because I dont like guns/gun owners, then rightly so, you should be offended. Anybody in any country that promotes the use of guns (especially people who claim guns reduce crime and keep people safe) is an idiot.
clevemire
01-25-2005, 02:45 PM
When did I say I hate America? I'm just proving the point that more guns = more crime, shootings, and violence. I dunno what you got sand in your vagina about, and frankly I dont give a shit. Stop being a pussy and crying just because something about your country isnt quite how you'd like to think. But, to be honest, I'm still puzzled over why you think I hate America? Yeah, I said theres more gun-crime, because there is. Yeah, I said I wouldnt like to live there, because I wouldnt; i'm much safer here. But I dont see how that makes me prejudice. And, Cleve, using that 'little boy' insult was a tad ironic , since i'm not the one who had to resort to name-calling because I got proved wrong.Get off your high horse fella. You didn't prove me wrong. Maybe if my argument was actually about guns, you would have. Nice try. Your little too-little too-late apology isn't worth shit.
Let me explain: You see, none of your FACTs had anything close to 100%, and some of us tried to explain to you that not everyone here is all about guns and shit, but regardless of both, you called it 'bullshit' and obviously had a problem with all of us anyway. Can you blame us for getting on your case? That's what I have the problem with. I'm sorry, but you call our country sad, this is what happens. I didn't want to resort to name calling, but I tried for at least 2 posts to explain and reason with you like adults. Didn't work, so yeah I resorted to name calling. But I guess you're just impossible to reason with anyway.
The point is, this thread was about someone showing off their guns. Plain and simple. The topic asked nothing about whether you approved of them or not. Did it? Regardless, you came in here all crying about how you thought people here were cool, but since they like and own guns, you decided they weren't. By the way. Isn't that ironic? You just called me the whiner, but you certainly started the trend this time.
You contest a group of people on the boards, simply because of something they believe in. Not because of who they are, or what they themselves have done, but simply because of what they like. Is that not a form of prejudice?
You're just another cynical teenager who thinks they know all about life. Same story, different child..
slipnslide087
01-25-2005, 03:52 PM
yeah, i live in the us, and of course its fucked up and shitty. there are a lot more idiots than intelligent people. A LOT MORE. - that is why everything is always going to be fucked up. Also hints why bush is our president. ahaha
GHoSToKeR
01-25-2005, 06:03 PM
Get off your high horse fella. You didn't prove me wrong. Maybe if my argument was actually about guns, you would have. Nice try. Your little too-little too-late apology isn't worth shit.
Let me explain: You see, none of your FACTs had anything close to 100%, and some of us tried to explain to you that not everyone here is all about guns and shit, but regardless of both, you called it 'bullshit' and obviously had a problem with all of us anyway. Can you blame us for getting on your case? That's what I have the problem with. I'm sorry, but you call our country sad, this is what happens. I didn't want to resort to name calling, but I tried for at least 2 posts to explain and reason with you like adults. Didn't work, so yeah I resorted to name calling. But I guess you're just impossible to reason with anyway.
The point is, this thread was about someone showing off their guns. Plain and simple. The topic asked nothing about whether you approved of them or not. Did it? Regardless, you came in here all crying about how you thought people here were cool, but since they like and own guns, you decided they weren't. By the way. Isn't that ironic? You just called me the whiner, but you certainly started the trend this time.
You contest a group of people on the boards, simply because of something they believe in. Not because of who they are, or what they themselves have done, but simply because of what they like. Is that not a form of prejudice?
You're just another cynical teenager who thinks they know all about life. Same story, different child..
I was half-way through writing a long-assed reply, but I changed my mind, so i'll just say this: Fuck off
GHoSToKeR
01-25-2005, 06:06 PM
One last thing:
Sad:
Affected or characterized by sorrow or unhappiness.
Expressive of sorrow or unhappiness.
Causing sorrow or gloom; depressing: a sad movie; sad news.
Dark-hued; somber.
To coin a phrase from your President - the 'great' GWB - I think you "misunderestimated me".
Garden Knowm
01-25-2005, 06:40 PM
My neighbor just got a pool... and I am really concerned that my hamster might get out of its cage and cross the street and fall in the pool.. I have added three new locks to hamsters cage... but I am still scared shitless that my hamster might get out and cross the street and fall in the pool... I am thinking about killing my neighbor and then filling in his pool with concrete.... this is porbably the safest, most humane and definitley most american way to deal with this Mother Fucker...
any suggestions... please help... this is so serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And please no suggestions from pansy asses like GHOST who don't have the dedication and the balls and the guts and the glory to save hamsters across this great COUNTRY of OURS!!!!!!!!!!!
Reefer Rogue
01-25-2005, 06:52 PM
lmao. who wudve thought a thread about a guy posting pics of his plastic guns would turn out into a hamster getting shot and a pool full of concrete :confused:
GHoSToKeR
01-25-2005, 06:57 PM
My neighbor just got a pool... and I am really concerned that my hamster might get out of its cage and cross the street and fall in the pool.. I have added three new locks to hamsters cage... but I am still scared shitless that my hamster might get out and cross the street and fall in the pool... I am thinking about killing my neighbor and then filling in his pool with concrete.... this is porbably the safest, most humane and definitley most american way to deal with this Mother Fucker...
any suggestions... please help... this is so serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And please no suggestions from pansy asses like GHOST who don't have the dedication and the balls and the guts and the glory to save hamsters across this great COUNTRY of OURS!!!!!!!!!!!
...what?
clevemire
01-25-2005, 07:06 PM
Shit. Nevermind. This will just go on forever.
Let's just agree to disagree.
GHoSToKeR
01-25-2005, 07:09 PM
Agreed
Reefer Rogue
01-25-2005, 07:11 PM
yd u edit that big post cleve was i not supposed to see it? lol to late and im gonna tell all!!!!!!!!!!!! ha sike. i always write posts and then after i post them think its shit and edit em. anywho toke on :)
poorman3
01-25-2005, 07:15 PM
One last thing:
Sad:
Affected or characterized by sorrow or unhappiness.
Expressive of sorrow or unhappiness.
Causing sorrow or gloom; depressing: a sad movie; sad news.
Dark-hued; somber.
To coin a phrase from your President - the 'great' GWB - I think you "misunderestimated me".
what: which thing or which particular one of many.
did you lose your dictionary ghost? lol.
clevemire
01-25-2005, 09:19 PM
yd u edit that big post cleve was i not supposed to see it? lol to late and im gonna tell all!!!!!!!!!!!! ha sike. i always write posts and then after i post them think its shit and edit em. anywho toke on :)LOL so you really are a rogue! Gotta watch out for you.
I was going to go on a whole tirade again, but it was all just getting too personal for it's own good. I'm not here to make enemies out of good people.
Yeah, what he said.
I'm an American, an idiot, and will now fuck off.
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sawleaf
01-26-2005, 03:41 PM
FACT: The Bush administration told the American public that Iraq and Afghanistan needed to be invaded, and Saddam and the Taliban removed, because the USA was in iminent danger from a terrorist attack.
FACT: After 9/11 there was news report after news report telling you, the American public, that you were in iminent danger from a terrorist attack.
So you are saying we should listen to a government that lies to us and give up our firearms? Why should we have a government that is corrupt and let it disarm it's own people? I believe the people should always have more power than the government. We are becoming more and more oppressed everyday here. Just more of a reason to arm yourself in my eyes. If you regard the facts more closely and look at individual states in the US, you will see that the high crime areas are the areas with the strictest gun control laws. States with low gun control have significantly lower crime rates than states where guns are heavily restricted. Look at our nation's capitol, Washington DC, high crime rate, you can't even own pepper spray there, yet there are gang shootings all the time and people dying there every day on the news. If you choose to defend yourself there you are automatically a criminal. Is this okay with you Ghost???
GHoSToKeR
01-26-2005, 04:12 PM
Sawleaf, I give up. I was looking some facts up on the internet earlier (its my day-off, so I was bored lol), and i've found convincing arguements for both sides - some saying that gun control causes more gun crime, and some saying that less gun control equates to more gun crime. So who knows? Maybe if guns were illegal in the US, there would be less gun crime than there is now, maybe there would be more - theres no way to tell, you cant erase history and start over. I'm gonna have to change my position and sit on the fence for this one. I'm not saying that i've changed my opinion on guns: I still dislike them, just as I dislike knives, police, and Vanilla flavoured ice-cream. But maybe I was wrong when I said 'more guns = more crime'. Again, who knows? Its the same thing for the ''Legalisation of Cannabis will cause more Cannabis use' or 'Legalisation of Cannabis will reduce Cannabis use'' debate. No one will ever know. You can change the laws, or you can keep them the same, but you cant change whats happened in the past, and you cant just start over.
One more thing... I dont know why everyone seems to think that I hate America and Americans. I said that America has more guns and more gun crime than most places; I was using it as an example. I also said, judging by the amount of gun-crime, I wouldnt like to live in America because i'm safer here - even the police dont carry guns, I dont even think they own any.. But I didnt say I dislike America or Americans, and i'll enver say that, because its not true. So, yeah..
sawleaf
01-26-2005, 04:49 PM
Sawleaf, I give up. I was looking some facts up on the internet earlier (its my day-off, so I was bored lol), and i've found convincing arguements for both sides - some saying that gun control causes more gun crime, and some saying that less gun control equates to more gun crime. So who knows? Maybe if guns were illegal in the US, there would be less gun crime than there is now, maybe there would be more - theres no way to tell, you cant erase history and start over. I'm gonna have to change my position and sit on the fence for this one. I'm not saying that i've changed my opinion on guns: I still dislike them, just as I dislike knives, police, and Vanilla flavoured ice-cream. But maybe I was wrong when I said 'more guns = more crime'. Again, who knows? Its the same thing for the ''Legalisation of Cannabis will cause more Cannabis use' or 'Legalisation of Cannabis will reduce Cannabis use'' debate. No one will ever know. You can change the laws, or you can keep them the same, but you cant change whats happened in the past, and you cant just start over.
One more thing... I dont know why everyone seems to think that I hate America and Americans. I said that America has more guns and more gun crime than most places; I was using it as an example. I also said, judging by the amount of gun-crime, I wouldnt like to live in America because i'm safer here - even the police dont carry guns, I dont even think they own any.. But I didnt say I dislike America or Americans, and i'll enver say that, because its not true. So, yeah..
Oh I never said you hate America Ghost. I know there is no way to prove that guns cause or lessen crime really. Statistics show that they do both. I guess it really depends on the people and people are different everywhere. I never really try to argue the crime thing much, because there is too much facts for both sides. My view on firearm ownership is pretty much that you should be able to own what you want as long as you are responsible. I think punishment for misuse of a firearm should actually be stricter than it is currently. Ran across this news article on CNN.com this morning while reading the news. Was strange because it was right after I posted my last post on this thread. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/26/store.shooting.ap/index.html
GHoSToKeR
01-27-2005, 03:40 AM
Woot! Finally someone whos managed to reply to one of my posts without the words "Fuck you" being in the reply. lol
That news article is interesting. Its strange to me, though. I mean, sure the burglars were posing a threat, and sure, the old couple were protecting themselves, but I find it wierd how people always value their own life over everyones elses. It comes back to that 'kill or be killed' thing, I guess.
braindead
01-27-2005, 03:51 AM
how come im the only person that doesnt like guns? i thought stoners were cool, but most people on this site are all into guns and knives and shit :(
I hate guns, and the inbreds who own them
braindead
01-27-2005, 04:03 AM
So you are saying we should listen to a government that lies to us and give up our firearms? Why should we have a government that is corrupt and let it disarm it's own people? I believe the people should always have more power than the government. We are becoming more and more oppressed everyday here. Just more of a reason to arm yourself in my eyes. If you regard the facts more closely and look at individual states in the US, you will see that the high crime areas are the areas with the strictest gun control laws. States with low gun control have significantly lower crime rates than states where guns are heavily restricted. Look at our nation's capitol, Washington DC, high crime rate, you can't even own pepper spray there, yet there are gang shootings all the time and people dying there every day on the news. If you choose to defend yourself there you are automatically a criminal. Is this okay with you Ghost???
Yes people who "defend themselves" with guns are criminals. Its that way in every other nation in the world. Only you american cowboys think the answer to crime is start shooting. Thats a backward and ignorant attitude. People have guns in canada, aus, nz, but in all those countries its illegal to use them as self defence, unless its an animal attacking you. I dont care if a gang breaks in and rapes your wife, shooting them adds to the problem of crime.
As for the whole "we gun owners are keeping the government in check" argument, thats absurd. Every iraqi is allowed to have an ak-47 and it hasnt help them defnd themselves from evil american government. Your little gun isnt going to shit against the FBI ATF and whoever else uncle sam wants to sick on your ass.
Its moronic to say states with gun control laws have more crime. Thats why guns were banned there, the high crime. No place bans guns and then the criminals go on a spree, that doesnt happen except in an nra pamplet. You need to ban guns america wide, thats the only way. You cant sell guns in one town and ban them in the next one, but you can make them much harder to get by banning them nation wide. It works everywhere else in the world, but you guys dont much about that place out there.
And i hate americans so fuck you and your guns
GHoSToKeR
01-27-2005, 07:43 AM
"that doesnt happen except in an NRA pamphlet". LOL, I like that
NowhereMan
01-27-2005, 10:28 AM
Yes people who "defend themselves" with guns are criminals. Its that way in every other nation in the world. Only you american cowboys think the answer to crime is start shooting. Thats a backward and ignorant attitude. People have guns in canada, aus, nz, but in all those countries its illegal to use them as self defence, unless its an animal attacking you. I dont care if a gang breaks in and rapes your wife, shooting them adds to the problem of crime.
As for the whole "we gun owners are keeping the government in check" argument, thats absurd. Every iraqi is allowed to have an ak-47 and it hasnt help them defnd themselves from evil american government. Your little gun isnt going to shit against the FBI ATF and whoever else uncle sam wants to sick on your ass.
Its moronic to say states with gun control laws have more crime. Thats why guns were banned there, the high crime. No place bans guns and then the criminals go on a spree, that doesnt happen except in an nra pamplet. You need to ban guns america wide, thats the only way. You cant sell guns in one town and ban them in the next one, but you can make them much harder to get by banning them nation wide. It works everywhere else in the world, but you guys dont much about that place out there.
And i hate americans so fuck you and your guns
on your level of intellect
maybe you can understand this ya brainless twit
the best part of you ran out the crack ya mamma's ass and stained a back seat of taxi
my gun owning american southern attitude dont like your racist crap
and yes that racist towards americans
if you dont see that go back to 3rd grade
GHoSToKeR
01-27-2005, 10:42 AM
the best part of you ran out the crack ya mamma's ass and stained a back seat of taxi
That speaks for itself, really. Nowhereman, I didnt know you were such a stupid piece of shit. You call somebody racist, and try and act all high and mighty, and then say that in the same sentence. I wouldnt start talking about anybodies intellect, if I were you; you dont wanna embarrass yourself.
Uh oh, are you gonna threaten to 'kick my lil punk ass' now?
Hahahaaha
Ammie
01-27-2005, 01:54 PM
Yes, Ghost I must agree Vanilla flavoured ice-cream is to be disliked!!!
unlike Roger Rabbit now hes cool,:D do ya'll remember "Who framed Roger Rabbit"???!?!?!?!!?!?
w000000000t now Jessica Rabbit was hotness ;)
gotta love them sexy cartoons :p
anyone wanna play pattycake :eek: :) ;) :p
slipnslide087
01-27-2005, 03:16 PM
dude, first off braindead QUOTE: "I hate guns, and the inbreds who own them"-fuck you. man statistics are bullshit. you cant just go country to country and look at their crime rates and shit.......a whole bunch of other shit goes into play when coming up with these statistics (bullshit), bc thats what statisctics are. did you ever take into effect the population percentages of these countries too??? because that would give you a lot more accurate of a statistic. thats cool you wouldnt shoot a guy if he came in your house and raped your wife......well guess what....i would blow the fuck out o f him. i would use every fucking round in the gun, and just in case he lived, i would shoot his balls off. oh, and, do you think that nobody where you live would do that?? or is it bc its against the law,,,,dont you think any of them would love to do that?? you fuckin bet they would. -we can only shoot people in life threatening situations (very broad category) or if they are in our house and not supposed to be, like if they intend to KILL ME or take some of my shit. they know they run that risk man. its not like a fucking surprise.
QUOTE: braindead says :"Yes people who "defend themselves" with guns are criminals. Its that way in every other nation in the world. Only you american cowboys think the answer to crime is start shooting. Thats a backward and ignorant attitude. People have guns in canada, aus, nz, but in all those countries its illegal to use them as self defence, unless its an animal attacking you. I dont care if a gang breaks in and rapes your wife, shooting them adds to the problem of crime."-- dude, you know why its fair, and why if someone breaks in my house, i would decide my life over theirs is??? they know they run the risk before they even broke in. If they are going to run that risk to steal few pricy electronics, then that was THEIR conscious decision. its kind of like they signed a waiver or something......
braindead QUOTE: "Every iraqi is allowed to have an ak-47 and it hasnt help them defnd themselves from evil american government." - WHAT THE FUCK!!!????
are you serious man??? haha, well if you are, then SHUT THE FUCK UP, i dont feel i need to explain myself on that one.
QUOTE: braindead says: "And i hate americans so fuck you and your guns"
dude...............shut the fuck up man.........just do it......youre too damn opinionated to bring back a valid argument............just stop........peace
but FUCK YOU braindead
sawleaf
01-27-2005, 04:52 PM
Yes people who "defend themselves" with guns are criminals. Its that way in every other nation in the world. Only you american cowboys think the answer to crime is start shooting. Thats a backward and ignorant attitude. People have guns in canada, aus, nz, but in all those countries its illegal to use them as self defence, unless its an animal attacking you. I dont care if a gang breaks in and rapes your wife, shooting them adds to the problem of crime.
As for the whole "we gun owners are keeping the government in check" argument, thats absurd. Every iraqi is allowed to have an ak-47 and it hasnt help them defnd themselves from evil american government. Your little gun isnt going to shit against the FBI ATF and whoever else uncle sam wants to sick on your ass.
Its moronic to say states with gun control laws have more crime. Thats why guns were banned there, the high crime. No place bans guns and then the criminals go on a spree, that doesnt happen except in an nra pamplet. You need to ban guns america wide, thats the only way. You cant sell guns in one town and ban them in the next one, but you can make them much harder to get by banning them nation wide. It works everywhere else in the world, but you guys dont much about that place out there.
And i hate americans so fuck you and your guns
What's really moronic is this post of yours. It is obvious that it is just your opinion that you are posting and nothing else. Look up crime statistics in high gun control states before you spout off idiotic shit like this. Gun control works in some places and doesn't work in others. But here in the USA, it doesn't work. Australia's crime rate is on the rise since they enacted their gun laws. I guarantee that if a gang broke into your house and raped your wife, you'd shoot them if you were armed. Nobody wants to be another victim. I do hope that never happens to you also, even though you seem to hate a lot of people you have never met. Every Iraqi is armed, but they are too damn pussy and divided to overthrow Saddam. Look what a few armed people did at Waco, they did outgun the ATF and hold them off. Too bad they were trapped in a building and the feds burned them all up. So if people choose to defend themselves with guns, then they are criminals in your eyes. So what if they choose knifes, clubs, fists? Where do you draw the line? Are people even allowed to defend themselves at all in your eyes? You know, don't even answer this. You've already shown what type of person you are with such a ridiculous, hatefilled, stereotypical, ignorant post. You truely are Braindead.
slipnslide087
01-27-2005, 04:56 PM
QUOTE: sawleaf says: "You truely are Braindead." -- i 2nd that notion.
poorman3
01-27-2005, 05:22 PM
ghost, i never said fuckyou in any of my replies. i said some other things but not that.
now you jump up on the fence after all them "FACTS" you posted. damn, you have that choice i guess. is your ship sinking? remember women and children first. lol.
to Braindead, QUOTE: sawleaf says: "Your truely Braindead."--- i third that notion!
Garden Knowm
01-27-2005, 05:24 PM
this kid in the second grade took my sandwhich and i have vowed to carry a gun and support gun rights ever since... people can't just go around and take peoples stuff.. it not ok.. I also had a big wheel that got taken... by this really poor kid down the street... I really wish i would have been man enough to shoot him... I called the cops and nowhere mans dad showed up and shot this little kid.. and got me my big wheel back.. tell you dad thanks : )
another time this guy called me swear word and I just totally lost it and told him to shut up... i wish i would have had a gun...
slipnslide087
01-27-2005, 05:25 PM
i just talked with lulu and now he is now officially a truly braindead and BANNED asshole.
clevemire
01-27-2005, 05:26 PM
Where is this topic even going anymore? There's way too much hate here.
I'm all for expressing opinions, but it seems like almost everyone is way more interested in pissing each other off, than actually trying to make a good point. That's not the stoner way.
Instead of just rambling on and on, why don't all of you wanna-be activists (pro or anti gun) actually do something about it, instead of sitting here bitching?
slipnslide087
01-27-2005, 05:27 PM
QUOTE: garden says: "this kid in the second grade took my sandwhich and i have vowed to carry a gun and support gun rights ever since... people can't just go around and take peoples stuff.. it not ok.. I also had a big wheel that got taken... by this really poor kid down the street... I really wish i would have been man enough to shoot him... I called the cops and nowhere mans dad showed up and shot this little kid.. and got me my big wheel back.. tell you dad thanks : )
another time this guy called me swear word and I just totally lost it and told him to shut up... i wish i would have had a gun..."
wtf??????
slipnslide087
01-27-2005, 05:30 PM
yeah.....im going to leave this website, and go find a website with LESS assholes. whos coming?
sawleaf
01-27-2005, 05:44 PM
Where is this topic even going anymore? There's way too much hate here.
I'm all for expressing opinions, but it seems like almost everyone is way more interested in pissing each other off, than actually trying to make a good point. That's not the stoner way.
Instead of just rambling on and on, why don't all of you wanna-be activists (pro or anti gun) actually do something about it, instead of sitting here bitching?
I do bro, NRA member and pro-gun activist. ;)
Garden Knowm
01-27-2005, 06:16 PM
I'm an asshole... so i guess I'll stay here : (
bye : (
clevemire
01-27-2005, 06:16 PM
I do bro, NRA member and pro-gun activist. ;)Very cool. I had figured you would be one of the very few here who would actually be active behind the scenes.
Don't let a couple of assholes deter you from this site slipnslide. There's a bunch of very cool people here. You just have to weed out the jerks. It's worth it, IMO.
Kid Dynamite
01-27-2005, 06:23 PM
make love not war. Gun dont kill people. People with guns kill people.
slipnslide087
01-27-2005, 08:50 PM
i was just jokin.
Looker
02-04-2005, 03:16 PM
WHATTYA THINK PPLS
weedman7
02-05-2005, 04:48 PM
lets see i have a baby glock ....crome and black 22 and a couple bb guns and paint guns
sawleaf
02-05-2005, 04:56 PM
lets see i have a baby glock ....crome and black 22 and a couple bb guns and paint guns
What caliber Glock? My friend has a slim compact Glock .45cal, I'm not sure about the Glock number, I get them all mixed up except for the 17, 18C, and 21. they have so many pistols available. I don't have any though. I'm an HK guy. ;)
slipnslide087
02-05-2005, 05:43 PM
have you evver had a sig saw?
sawleaf
02-05-2005, 05:45 PM
No, but I've test fired a few. Nice pistols though. I only own two pistols. An HK USP Compact .45 for security and a Walter P22 for plinking. You? :)
slipnslide087
02-05-2005, 05:49 PM
if you find the thread,,,,,,,"my collection" i finally posted my guns//// the only one that is really mine is the walther P22. but there also the P99 9MM...and the bushmaster M-16 like gun....dont know the exact name.
sawleaf
02-05-2005, 05:52 PM
Oh cool you own a P22 also. Fun little pistol isn't it!? I'm getting a suppressor for it this spring. The Bushmaster is an AR-15. I also have one, an M4 variant. Am currently building two more though. The Ar-15 is the best multi-purpose rifle in the world! :)
slipnslide087
02-05-2005, 05:54 PM
yeahhhhh thats the name. i always forget it. i love the P22 man, not for defense though.,.,...but yeah nice little gun, compact, nice on the recoil,,,,gets lots of shots off fast and accurate. love it. i enjoy shooting it more than the P99
sawleaf
02-05-2005, 05:58 PM
yeahhhhh thats the name. i always forget it. i love the P22 man, not for defense though.,.,...but yeah nice little gun, compact, nice on the recoil,,,,gets lots of shots off fast and accurate. love it. i enjoy shooting it more than the P99
Yeah I love shooting mine more than my HK USP. A lot cheaper also. In that pic is that a fake suppresor or a real one?
slipnslide087
02-05-2005, 06:09 PM
fake man. looks cool huh? helps with accuracy though a little
Dick Justice
02-05-2005, 06:13 PM
This is a depressing thread.
sawleaf
02-05-2005, 06:13 PM
fake man. looks cool huh? helps with accuracy though a little
Yeah looks cool, but why not apply for a real class3 suppressor and make it sound like a pellet gun? I'm looking to put a real suppresor on my P22 and get a HK MP5 full auto. :)
slipnslide087
02-05-2005, 06:14 PM
why? bc you have a diff opinon???? cool. then dont click on it anymore??>>>>
slipnslide087
02-05-2005, 06:14 PM
i am going to, i just got that for fun at the same time i got the gun. i probably will get a real one this summer.
sawleaf
02-05-2005, 06:14 PM
This is a depressing thread.
Nobody is trying to make you depressed. Don't read it or post here if you think so.
sawleaf
02-05-2005, 06:15 PM
i am going to, i just got that for fun at the same time i got the gun. i probably will get a real one this summer.
Takes a few months for the ATF to stamp "not disapproved" on the paperwork though. Sucks waiting. :)
psychonaut
02-05-2005, 07:06 PM
live by the sword.....die by the sword
ermitonto
02-05-2005, 07:09 PM
I think the world would be better had guns not been invented, but dammit I'm not going to be the only unarmed person once society collapses.
Bel Acres
02-05-2005, 07:17 PM
Guns are pretty cool. Desperado was a wild movie.
sawleaf
02-05-2005, 07:28 PM
live by the sword.....die by the sword
I don't live by the sword, but I keep one just incase. :)
Looker
02-08-2005, 12:19 AM
This is a depressing thread.
HEY WHAT ABOUT MY PIC....
THAT DIDNT MAKE YOU LAUGH??
MAN I MUST BE WAY OUT THERE......
caddyman
02-08-2005, 12:37 AM
cool thing to do dude show your guns to the world , get a life man
sawleaf
02-08-2005, 12:53 AM
Whenever someone says "get a life", I'm always left thinking, what type of life do they want that person to get? Do they want that person to get a life they approve of? Does anyone really have the authority to tell you what you can or can't choose to do with your life? If they chose another life, will someone else who disapproves spit out "get a life" again? Are we not free to enjoy our lives and hobbies without approval first? Caddyman, although I don't know you or anything about you, I disapprove of your life and your criticism of people online. GET A LIFE! :rolleyes:
GHoSToKeR
02-08-2005, 02:08 AM
lol well said, Saw :p
slipnslide087
02-08-2005, 02:18 AM
word saw.....caddyman....get a fuckin life.
llamaman666
02-08-2005, 03:21 AM
I have a bunch of hunting rifles, keep em out of criminals, but im a good people so shoot on!
sawleaf
02-08-2005, 05:58 PM
Hey STP, I love that AR entry weapon. I'm looking to build one similar to that, same 7.5 inch barrel, but with a flattop upper reciever instead. :)
Garden Knowm
02-08-2005, 06:04 PM
I had this poisionous frog, that I wiped on the trigger of a gun, and then the gun slinger shot someone with his gun ........ he killed her..... shot her in the belly.. killed her baby..... and then he died cause he got poisonous frog on him and then.... and then... uh .. I forget..
but there were two or three dead people and I cried...
just a little bit..
sawleaf
02-08-2005, 06:47 PM
I had this poisionous frog, that I wiped on the trigger of a gun, and then the gun slinger shot someone with his gun ........ he killed her..... shot her in the belly.. killed her baby..... and then he died cause he got poisonous frog on him and then.... and then... uh .. I forget..
but there were two or three dead people and I cried...
just a little bit..
lol Was this in the Wild West? I don't know any gunslingers around these parts.
Mexico Max
02-10-2005, 07:06 AM
Anotaher similarity between drugs and guns: both are too important, powerful, dangerous and fun to be against the law.
Hey STP, I love that AR entry weapon. I'm looking to build one similar to that, same 7.5 inch barrel, but with a flattop upper reciever instead. :)
changed it to flattop barrel, scope and a few stuff for it.. :) ill post a pic for it..
adh endo
02-10-2005, 09:47 AM
if nobody had guns then why would you need guns?
sawleaf
02-10-2005, 01:14 PM
if nobody had guns then why would you need guns?
The point is guns exsist. This "if this, if that" shit is just ridiculous. But if...
sawleaf
02-10-2005, 01:17 PM
Anotaher similarity between drugs and guns: both are too important, powerful, dangerous and fun to be against the law.
A gun is only a tool. It can be extremely safe or very dangerous depending on the user. :)
slipnslide087
02-10-2005, 05:54 PM
guns are made dangerous, dangerous people buy them.
slipnslide087
02-10-2005, 05:55 PM
***guns aren't dangerous, dangerous people by them.***
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