View Full Version : how to avoid "depersonalization" when smoking
Rock_em_tight
08-02-2007, 11:25 PM
Does anyone know how? I get it alot from smoking and it makes me feel like shit,should I not smoke as much weed during a session? Would that help?
Sombrero
08-04-2007, 02:59 PM
It should be helpful to smoke with a good friend. This should keep you grounded and bonded.
Rayg Dog
08-06-2007, 05:26 AM
wtf is "depersonalization"!
Penngrove
08-06-2007, 07:42 PM
I am told that this is when the patient continues to smoke as a means of escape. What are you escaping? In my case, I start to feel that way and it is because I sit alone in another building while trying to get stoned enough so that I can take my shots without barfing. I know I start to feel detached. I have taken the advice above and vaporize with a person with a similar problem. I also vaporize with an old friend when he is in town. After talking, I realized that I was staying away toc long because I was hung up about worrying about need to be high or be sick. So shorter sessions. Do something social in between. Do it with trusted friends. Now my problem is for illness. If yours is social, my advice may not apply to well. Good look and remember your personality is your personalily. A good trusted friend can tell you if he / she sees it in you.
snowblind
08-06-2007, 08:13 PM
your advice really hits the nail on the head. though the reasons may be different the outcome is the same. depersonalisation is just that lack of interaction with people on a personal level, so not the internet, not even the phone. the brain needs to reinforce connecitons about social situations and interactions. in males this is especially needed as our brains do not fully mature till we are 25. meaning that we have to reinforce and keep nuron pathways in the brain open. when they are not used the brain stops using them. dope seems to accelerate this is some people because when you are stoned often people spend alot of time within themselves listening to and talking with their inner dialogue, the id ego or super ego depending on the mood or character.
to cease this you ahve to get out, join a club, go to a bar, hang out with friends. change your smoking surroundings and the reasons to smoke. if you are getting high because there is nothing else ot do find something to do. if you are getting high to escape feelings you have, a situation you are in or because of something in your life. this will accelerate the feelings too.
there is only one way to make it better. get out, see more people, be personal.
peace and progress
snowblind
IanCurtisWishlist
08-06-2007, 10:32 PM
Depersonalization is recognized by many psychiatrists/psychologists as the feeling that one is detached from oneself, that you are not real somehow. Perception and reality feels different, as though something might not be quite right.
Not to go off on a tangent about "other psychotropic drugs", but I had this feeling after taking a very large dose of LSA (not LSD). If you know about Owsley, he sold LSA-containing seeds which he said would get you , "not high but weird". This reminds me of dissociative drugs. I felt like everything was dreamlike. The best thing I can recommend is that if you experience depersonalization to an uncomfortable degree, stop smoking. Cannabis sometimes is linked to the manifestation of schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders --but usually only if a person is predisposed before smoking... I think we can attribute this to the hallucinogenic properties of cannabis.
(sorry mods if that violates anything, i'm not trying to advocate other drug use).
BudPages
08-10-2007, 05:45 AM
have you been smoking an indica, or sativa? if you dont know, do you know what strain?
Trip06
08-11-2007, 11:27 AM
I smoke to escape all the time.
sOcK3y3
08-11-2007, 12:14 PM
I would be willing to bet that this "depersonalization" existed prior to getting stoned. Like the above post mentions, the OP probably is predispositioned to this condition and smoking just intensifies it.
Tripn07
08-12-2007, 12:15 PM
yeah your right actully, Ive been this way my whole life.
Oh this is my new sn.
Tripn07
08-12-2007, 10:42 PM
Depersonalization (or derealization) is the feeling that 'nothing is real'; there is no or little sense of reality. It can be desirable, such as in the use of recreational drugs, but it is usually referring to the severe form found in anxiety and in the most intense case, panic attacks. It is most often described as a symptom of emotions, such as panic or fear. A sufferer feels that he or she has changed and the world has become less real â?? it is vague, dreamlike, or lacking in significance. It can sometimes be a rather disturbing experience, since many feel that indeed, they are living in a "dream." The DSM-IV categorizes depersonalization disorder as a dissociative disorder, though depersonalization proper is more often characteristic of the traumatic origin of other conditions.
This might help.
MadSativa
08-13-2007, 07:27 AM
this is confusing if weed was an escape then where am I escaping to and where was I imprisoned that I have to escape......................any way if people give you crap then dont kick it with them it will cause trouble. I your smokin so much that your jumpin outta a plane and dont know it then mabey your friends gotta point. However educat your self with the latest herb facts and then when they give you shiait you can educate em or just know their dumbasses. I these panic and other wierd things happen then mabey theirs a problem............herb is not for everyone if you smoke and go into convultions its probly a bad thing
Tripn07
08-13-2007, 08:15 AM
Ahh I escape to myself I guess, yeah It feels really good. I usally havent felt apart of stuff that was going on in my life for a long time. Actully for as long as I can remember before smoking Ive felt this way, a couple years ago It got worse by smokin. I Love smokin tho and Im not planning on quiting, Ive been developing new ways to enjoy with out the negative aspects. Depersonalizeation is just how ive always been. I dont hang with people that give me crap, Im a loner but I dont always stay to myself. I smoke weed now like im taking mushrooms or something I plan out my blaze session and just chill If things are really mellow. It feels really good afterwards If I get through it all chill. Im a insecure person I usally dont feel good enough for anything so smoking takes me away. But smoking and getting that good feel is a real uplifter.
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