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Jbuds88
07-30-2007, 04:13 AM
A friend has recently told me that with the exception to a vape a joint releases the most thc. I was just wondering if anyone can confirm this or give their own knowledge

vej33
07-30-2007, 05:04 AM
as far as i know, you LOSE more thc with a joint because of the billowing smoke coming from the lit end... from what i've read, Vaporizers are the best for getting all active thc, then probably bongs & bowls, and then blunts & joints.

although blunts burn longer than joints, you gotta admit joints do go fast.

stonerman07
07-30-2007, 05:06 AM
yeah, plus, the resin in the roach traps a lot of the thc, and when you initially smoke th ejoint, you dont smoke the roach, so it is kinda not that good. to me, vaporizers suck, cuz i've only had a homemade one and it never gets me insanely stoned like some say they do, but ive never used a real one.

vej33
07-30-2007, 05:08 AM
yea the only vaperizer iv tried was the one i made out of a lightbulb... and even though i probably wasn't using it right, i didn't really care for it. the only time it was of any use to me was when i smoked resin out of it. thaaat was a good hit lol.

the.dude
07-30-2007, 05:27 AM
I find that joints get me the highest. I also heard that on a per weight basis, the roach gets you higher than the rest of the joint. One day I'm going to make a blunt out of roaches!

WildFire.ca
07-30-2007, 05:48 AM
Newbies :S2:
All methods of burning the pot to ash burn all thc, hence the ash.

Quit smoking dope before science class it might help :D

stonerman07
07-30-2007, 05:53 AM
different methods of smoking result in different highs. huge bong rips give you an insanely fast high, really a rush, blunts give you a really intense mellow high, because of the nicotine mixxing with thc, bowls give you the standard high, and joints give you a weak slow high. i love bong hits the best.:smokebong:

casper1
07-30-2007, 06:43 AM
i am sure a lot of you kno the trick but hey. to get the most out of ur jay u must smoke the end where all the thc builds up. how?, u ask. well with a simple divice dubbed the roachinator. to make one u burn a small hole in the side of a water bottle to hold the jay. then u burn another hole about a quarter turn away to be the carb. put the jay in the holder light it inhale and enjoy.

ThinkLong
07-30-2007, 01:40 PM
Or... save up your roaches and make up a joint solely out of roaches...

WeedyBoyWonder
07-30-2007, 01:56 PM
In my opinion joints are the least effective way of intaking cannabis. However its the one I do the most.

WildFire.ca
07-30-2007, 06:24 PM
Or... save up your roaches and make up a joint solely out of roaches...

This is the method of choice.

Mr. TBAGU 420
07-30-2007, 06:28 PM
I personally think that joints and blunts are the best way to smoke weed. Only because it's convenient to smoke while driving and it's easy to smoke just about anywhere without looking to much like weed to get you in trouble with the law. The only better way to smoke weed is through a bong and get huge ass bong rips! Those are nice.

dankus maximus
07-31-2007, 04:19 PM
Newbies :S2:
All methods of burning the pot to ash burn all thc, hence the ash.

Quit smoking dope before science class it might help :D

hey buddy thats a pretty misleading or just flat out wrong comment there. all methods that turn pot to ash, do not burn ALL the thc, yes it does destroy some but theres still a good amount left in the smoke, hence why you get high. now if youre saying all methods release the same amount of thc, then youre still wrong, some methods of burning are more effective than others still.

also, according to a test done by NORML, in terms of thc per volume of smoke, joint are the most effective. HOWEVER! joints also have more extra crap in the smoke, since you end up burning the resin(since it coats the paper, rest of the weed in the joint as you smoke it) that would normally be collected on the inside of your bowl/bong(not to mention all that paper!). and from personal experience i tend to smoke about the same amount in a bong than i do in a joint, and usually get higher from that, not to mention i can visibly see that there is more tar left behind, than the minuscule amount left on the inside of the roach.

so on a one hit basis, of the same volume of smoke, the joint would have the most thc, but on a one session basis, with the same amount of pot, a bong would probably get you higher, and you'd end up inhaling less tars than a joint.

nowfor the love of god, everybody get high!

WildFire.ca
07-31-2007, 06:23 PM
If you got a gram of weed. It has 22% thc. You burn the whole gram to ash.Q: Which method of taking heat to the bud WILL MAKE IT BURN more or less THC. A: None, the whole thing was burned(turned to smoke), all the bud, all the THC. If you use a bong you can take in more smoke then you can any other method cause the smoke is cooled. Water/Ice bongs are the best for taking is as much smoke as you can get in one hit.

foolblah
07-31-2007, 06:56 PM
word..hes righttt:thumbsup:

LIP
07-31-2007, 07:09 PM
Joints had the highest THC transfer rate last time i checked, which is from a website that isnt based on maybes or i thinks.

To anyone who thinks joints waste weed, even at the lit end, i think you should learn how to roll a good joint, and then think about it.

A well rolled joint doesnt waste and smoke, because a well rolled joint doesnt burn wildly at the end loosing lots of smoke, it should ember slightly with almost no smoke at all comming off the lit end, and when you toke, the embers light it up again. This is also part of the way of getting a joint to last much longer, just as long as a blunt and longer in some cases [size of blunt makes a differnce obviously, as does size of joint, but talking about a normal kingsize british cone joint.

greenmeanie
07-31-2007, 08:30 PM
∆9-THC is an organic compound (it contains carbon), just like the butane in your lighter, or the cellulose in the wood of a match. If you BURN it (combustion: combine with O2 gas in the air in the presence of heat from the lighter) it will break down and become CO2 and H2O. This is true for ANY organic compound. If you take a pile of pure THC and light it on fire, it will (almost) all be completely wasted. CO2 and H2O gas obviously do not get you high.

The reason bongs, pipes, and joints work is because the other organic material (cellulose, sugar, etc) in the bud is actually getting burned, and is heating the entire thing up so some of the THC vaporizes out. This is why joints and cherried bowls work so well: the cherry itself contains zero active THC. It is the bud just behind and around the cherry that is getting heated up, and releasing the intact THC into the smoke. Well-rolled joints (like LIP is referring to) will impart as much THC into the smoke as a well-packed bowl. This is also why a slow, milky bong rip is much more potent than a hot and fast one.

Has anybody noticed when they take a green hit off a pipe or bong, when the lighter flame touches the herb you can see the trichs go up in flame? That's wasted THC burning off into INACTIVE smoke. The best hits are slow, smooth, and cherry (which is why joints are nice-- they are just a good long small cherry) :) I hate touching the flame to the bud, it ruins the flavor and high of the bowl.

Scientifically speaking, a vaporizer is the best method of getting 100% THC intact into your lungs, without any combustion byproducts.

king of the world
07-31-2007, 08:56 PM
blunts give you a really intense mellow high, because of the nicotine mixxing with thc

blunts dont have nicotine

rantingsweed
07-31-2007, 09:10 PM
blunts dont have nicotine

yes they do

WildFire.ca
07-31-2007, 09:38 PM
yes they do
Not in north amarica we don't. We are not trying to stretch out our weed with tobacco. Y ruin the taste of weed with tobacco. Unless your broke.

BUZz UK
07-31-2007, 09:52 PM
Um... COZ THE WEED GOES IN A CIGAR?!

WildFire.ca
07-31-2007, 10:03 PM
I found this
Blunt (cigar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blunt_(cigar))

majin
07-31-2007, 10:07 PM
Thanks for the info Lip and Green. Informative guys.

Wildfire, you should listen more and talk less. :)

scream
07-31-2007, 10:14 PM
Not in north amarica we don't. We are not trying to stretch out our weed with tobacco. Y ruin the taste of weed with tobacco. Unless your broke.

where do you find blunt wraps not made out of tobacco? even in north america.

mslpanthers
07-31-2007, 11:43 PM
I have always heard the opposite. That joints give you less THC,

melodious fellow
08-01-2007, 12:13 AM
Hi. Melodious here... Still new here! I rarely have net, but when I do, I try to drop in.

The hierarchy of smoking devices in THC efficiency (to my knowledge) is vaporization at near 100%, then water devices at 85%, pipes at 45% blunts about 20-25% and joints last. You actually only inhale about 15% of the available THC.

Users report that "joints or blunts get them the higher than pipes or bongs," but this is largely due to #1. the larger amount of weed needed for a jay rather than a bowl, and #2. the rate of consumption is much faster with a jay; amount of time between hits is generally less. and #3. the resin build up at the end.

Roll a jay. Open it and put all of that weed in a bong or vape it and see how much higher you will get than if you smoked the same amount in the jay.

However, jays are convenient as well as classy, and the least suspicious.

peace

LIP
08-01-2007, 10:01 AM
Hi. Melodious here... Still new here! I rarely have net, but when I do, I try to drop in.

The hierarchy of smoking devices in THC efficiency (to my knowledge) is vaporization at near 100%, then water devices at 85%, pipes at 45% blunts about 20-25% and joints last. You actually only inhale about 15% of the available THC.

Users report that "joints or blunts get them the higher than pipes or bongs," but this is largely due to #1. the larger amount of weed needed for a jay rather than a bowl, and #2. the rate of consumption is much faster with a jay; amount of time between hits is generally less. and #3. the resin build up at the end.

Roll a jay. Open it and put all of that weed in a bong or vape it and see how much higher you will get than if you smoked the same amount in the jay.

However, jays are convenient as well as classy, and the least suspicious.

peace

I get higher with the joint, than with the bong, not to mention bongs are so quick is not very relaxing. Joints can go and go and go.

Fore20
08-01-2007, 07:21 PM
Last night I smoked a j with a friend, and got fuckin baked. So it must give you enought THC

kingDAWGELL
08-01-2007, 07:47 PM
Last night I smoked a j with a friend, and got fuckin baked. So it must give you enought THC

think about what you just said. that's a pretty ignorant statement. there are so many other factors - such as potency of weed, how much weed in the J, how many hits you took - that control how high you get that just because it was in a joint doesn't make the high a direct result of being smoked out of a joint. I could take a lot of weed, place it on a table, light it, and inhale the smoke it makes. after smoking a lot of weed like that I'm pretty sure that I'd be baked as hell, but that doesn't make it a good way to get high. I could get a hell of a lot higher by smoking the same amount of weed in a bowl/blunt/joint/bong.

Little Boy
08-01-2007, 08:31 PM
vaporizers work great

propolys
08-06-2007, 09:16 AM
Vaporizers of course give you the most THC for your buck. If you smoke joints, you can save the roaches and make a joint out of the resin-fortified roaches. You can then save the ultra-resin-fortified roaches to make a grand-daddy joint; but, this could take a while!

off PROBATION
08-06-2007, 09:30 AM
joints are the most stoney, look it up.

minus vape

WildFire.ca
08-06-2007, 04:22 PM
Vaporizers of course give you the most THC for your buck. If you smoke joints, you can save the roaches and make a joint out of the resin-fortified roaches. You can then save the ultra-resin-fortified roaches to make a grand-daddy joint; but, this could take a while!
Yea all day (:

JD1stTimer
08-08-2007, 06:20 AM
I saw someone say that the joint loses so much smoke out of the lit end.... WELL, the thc vaporizes at a WAAAAAAY lower temperature than the burning of the vegetable materials. In other words, you only get the thc from the UNBURNED portion BETWEEN the cherry and your lips. You could just take the vapors from this portion and get just as high, it's just not possible to draw the air in without drawing the smoke in with it. Anyways, the smoke is NOT what gets you high. The THC has already been vaped at a temperature MUCH too low to make smoke. IOW, what is making smoke is the same stuff as what's left in a Volcano when you're done. If you rolled that up you could light it, and "waste" billows and billow of smoke, but so what? That's why if you breathe in the smoke from the burning end instead of passing that hot air through a layer of green, it does nothing and just tastes like dead animal ass and makes you cough. Try it. Catch that smoke in a glass or something and suck it in. GAG!