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headbanger4eva
07-28-2007, 08:40 PM
whats everyones beliefs on smoking marijuana while your pregnant...I dont use any other types of drugs...just marijuana
I'm 3 months at the moment and from the day i found out i was pregnant i quit. Finally last night i broke down and smoked a Jay with my boyfriend, I felt really bad afterwards...but i loveee weed and its just hard to stay away from it. does anyone know if weed harms as baby, if it can cause defects or anything to go wrong...miscarriage or stillbirth? i've read about it but it seems doctors say everythings bad...even caffeine and ciggeretts!
I would love to be able to get high atleast once a week...or maybe just once a month....not a everyday thing. But i worry about harming my baby. I smoked weed every day of my life until i got pregnant...and now its a BIGGG CHANGE FOR ME....whats everyones opinion on this?

IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO MAYBE HEAR FROM OTHER WOMEN WHO SMOKED DURING THEIR PREGNANCY....


BURN ONE FOR ME ATLEAST! :smokin:

zach5993
07-28-2007, 09:24 PM
Pregnancy
Studies have found that children of marijuana-smoking mothers more frequently suffer from permanent cognitive deficits, concentration disorders, hyperactivity, and impaired social interactions than non-exposed children of the same age and social background.[87][88] A recent study with participation of scientists from Europe and the United States, have now identified that endogenous cannabinoids, molecules naturally produced by our brains and functionally similar to THC from cannabis, play unexpectedly significant roles in establishing how certain nerve cells connect to each other. The formation of connections among nerve cells occurs during a relatively short period in the fetal brain. The study tries to give a closer understanding of if and when cannabis damages the fetal brain[89][90].[91]

Other studies on Jamaica have suggested that cannabis use by expectant mothers does not appear to cause birth defects or developmental delays in their newborn children.[92][93] In a study in 1994 of Twenty-four Jamaican neonates exposed to marijuana prenatally and 20 non exposed neonates comparisons were made at 3 days and 1 month old, using the Brazelton Neonatal Assessment Scale, including supplementary items to capture possible subtle effects. Results showed there were no significant differences between exposed and nonexposed neonates on day 3. At 1 month, the exposed neonates showed better physiological stability and required less examiner facilitation to reach organized states. The neonates of heavy-marijuana-using mothers had better scores on autonomic stability, quality of alertness, irritability, and self-regulation and were judged to be more rewarding for caregivers. This work was supported by the March of Dimes Foundation.[94]


[edit] Lung cancer
Wikipedia.

I personally would not advise smoking of anything during pregnancy. I have seen many birth defects in babies. Hell my own brother is half stupid because of my dumbass mother. Do what you will, but think first.

juggalette420kb
07-28-2007, 09:49 PM
Right now I am also three months along. I smoke a bowl when i wake up and everytime I eat or i cant keep anything down. I would say smoke it for morning sickness or pelvic pains or dissiness. But quit ASAP because they are drug testing all mothers now wile they are pregnant. If the mother test positive then they will take the baby right after you give birth. But if ur partner pisses clean they will give the baby to him, but you wont be able to see it.

Storm Crow
07-28-2007, 10:32 PM
I have only one major worry when it comes to pregnancy and using cannabis- Smoke has carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide. When my late father was in the Navy (on subs), he was ordered to take 400 units of vitamin E daily. Apparently the Navy believes that Vitamin E allows you to work more efficiently under low oxygen conditions.

Last thing we want for baby is oxygen deprivation damage! I toked throughout both of my pregnancies, but I took vitamin E and made sure I took a few breaths between hits. Both my boys are intelligent and nice guys! One is unemployed right now, but he cooks a gourmet dinner 3 or more times a week (love it! :thumbsup: ). The other is one of the top computer jockeys at a school. They have the normal number of fingers and toes. ;)

Ok, I'm just one gal with 2 kids- hardly a scientific sampling! Here's some studies to get rid of the worries.

Oily fish makes 'babies brainier'
BBC NEWS | Health | Oily fish makes 'babies brainier' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4631006.stm)
(This one is on Omega-3, which is found in hemp seed- mentioned only at the end of the article. It's just good info, not smoking related.)

Ganja use among Jamaican women.
Jamaican Woman (http://www.rism.org/isg/dlp/ganja/analyses/GanjaBabyes.html)

Dreher's Jamaican Pregnancy Study
Latest News - Dreher's Jamaican Pregnancy Study (http://www.november.org/stayinfo/breaking06/DreherStudy.html)

Cannabis Relieves Morning Sickness
CCRMG (http://ccrmg.org/journal/06spr/dreher.html#morning)

Prenatal Marijuana Exposure and Neonatal Outcomes in Jamaica
Prenatal Marijuana Exposure and Neonatal Outcomes in Jamaica: An Ethnographic Study (http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/hemp/medical/can-babies.htm)

The Endocannabinoid-CB Receptor System
http://www.nel.edu/pdf_/25_12/NEL251204A01_Fride_.pdf

CLAIM #7: MARIJUANA USE DURING PREGNANCY HARMS THE FETUS
Erowid Cannabis Vault : Exposing Marijuana Myths (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth7.shtml)

Nonmutagenic action of cannabinoids in vitro
Nonmutagenic action of cannabinoids in vitro (http://trophort.com/005/993/005993433.html)

Prenatal exposure to tobacco, alcohol, cannabis and caffeine on birth size and subsequent growth. A comparison of the effects of prenatal exposure t...[Neurotoxicol Teratol. 1987 Mar-Apr] - PubMed Result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=PubMed&cmd=Retrieve&list_uids=3657756)

Tobacco and marijuana use on offspring growth from birth through 3 years of age. The effects of prenatal tobacco and marijuana use ...[Neurotoxicol Teratol. 1992 Nov-Dec] - PubMed Result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=1488035&ordinalpos=10&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVDocSum)

Prenatal marijuana use and neonatal outcome. Prenatal marijuana use and neonatal outcome. [Neurotoxicol Teratol. 1991 May-Jun] - PubMed Result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=1886543&ordinalpos=15&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVDocSum)

Just take good care of yourself and you both will be fine! - Granny:hippy:

Stoned_Friend
07-28-2007, 11:09 PM
if in dought "bake" im sure an fetis wouldnt mind a nice tasting brownie, i know i would of wanted one, congratulations aswell :)

The Supervisor
07-28-2007, 11:15 PM
congratulations! my best friend has 2 very intelligent little girls and she smoked throughout her pregnancies. not everyday, just occassionally like you were describing. i don't have kids yet but i have researched the shit out of it and have been with my friend before, during, and after both pregnancies. They are very healthy and strong and have never had any problems. i'm sure if you keep it occasional, you're baby will be just fine. :)

invoke
07-28-2007, 11:34 PM
Marijuana slows the growth of cells, along with what everyone else said. Really it might not do a thing, but to me, it really shouldn't matter, why take the chance? Getting high is not as a high of priority as my baby's health.

And yes... Caffeine and cigarettes both are very dangerous to yourself and cause many deaths a year, not to mention your baby. I think cigarettes are the #2 killer next to drunk driving deaths but I might be wrong.

Hell, they could very well turn out fine if you smoked once a month, but it honestly isn't worth the risk, but if you are drinking high amounts of caffeine, smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol, stop immediately, it is going to fuck the baby up bad.

Quinn The Eskimo
07-28-2007, 11:46 PM
Well it's probably safe, however when one is preggers it is a good idea to lay off smoking and other recreational/medical things that could possible damage your child. I'd say avoid it, simply because of the risk, sure not smoking weed for a while can be unpleasant, but having a child with a disorder that will stay with them for the rest of their life, and knowing that you caused, or having your child taken aways because of a failed drug test, are much worse. Anyway, as a parent you should be putting your child's welfare before your own.

The Supervisor
07-28-2007, 11:54 PM
I'd say avoid it, simply because of the risk, sure not smoking weed for a while can be unpleasant, but having a child with a disorder that will stay with them for the rest of their life, and knowing that you caused

disorders? are you serious? people really should stop answering things they know nothing about. the whole "gee, i have no education/experience on this topic but here's what i think anyways" thing has got to stop. there has never been any sort of evidence to indicate that cannabis is harmful while pregnant. Fuck, did you know that drinking cow's milk is harmful ALL the time? i shit you not, do your homework.

poiuyt
07-29-2007, 12:28 AM
You don't need a study to show smoking anything while pregnant is bad. All you need is some logic, which you clearly don't have.

This makes me sick.

The Supervisor
07-29-2007, 12:33 AM
You don't need a study to show smoking anything while pregnant is bad. All you need is some logic, which you clearly don't have.

This makes me sick.

speaking of logic...did you read all of the posts? did you check out the links posted above? esp. the ones about Jamaican mothers? how is it logical to group weed with other smokables like cigarettes?

is it just *smoking* you have an issue with? how about vaping? or edibles?

invoke
07-29-2007, 12:44 AM
It shouldn't matter in the first place. If you can't stop smoking while pregnant even for the RISK of something happening, just because some scientist on the internet said something doesn't mean it's true or false, but why RISK it? There are so many things that could effect the study and/or the controls that it could never be proven 100%.

If it's too much to give up smoking while you're pregnant, I feel bad for the kid because he's going to be in one hell of a ride...

The Supervisor
07-29-2007, 12:48 AM
It shouldn't matter in the first place. If you can't stop smoking while pregnant even for the RISK of something happening, just because some scientist on the internet said something doesn't mean it's true or false, but why RISK it? There are so many things that could effect the study and/or the controls that it could never be proven 100%.

If it's too much to give up smoking while you're pregnant, I feel bad for the kid because he's going to be in for a ride.


holy fuck people don't pay attention....there are so many things that the healthiest of pregnant women consume daily that are waaaaaaaaaay worse than weed. like i said, how about vaping or edibles???

invoke
07-29-2007, 12:50 AM
I don't know much about vapes so I can't say, but what you eat is also what the baby eats. YEAH let's get him high before he's even born. Awesome, great idea. :thumbsup:

The Supervisor
07-29-2007, 12:56 AM
I don't know much about vapes so I can't say, but what you eat is also what the baby eats. YEAH let's get him high before he's even born. Awesome, great idea. :thumbsup:


wow. just think about all the things that preggos put into their bodies everyday that are supposedly "safe." i'm sure you wouldn't say shit about one of them having soda or a cup of coffee. if cannabis was legal and it was socially acceptable you wouldn't even think twice about it.

invoke
07-29-2007, 01:00 AM
I smoke every day, and accept it, obviously I'm here on the cannabis forum, but that doesn't mean I think it's perfect, there will always be a side effect. And yes caffeine will have negative side effects too, granted how ever small one of them might be, there is just no need to smoke or get high while pregnant.

420_24/7
07-29-2007, 01:13 AM
i got a friend that was born on 420 and his mom was high having him, she also smoked during pregnancy and he turned out fine. but its only one example along with the other couple on here, but i think if ur worried or not sure just dont do it too much

JaMakin07
07-29-2007, 01:24 AM
haha i wish my mom blazed when she had me

DarkHairedSativa
07-29-2007, 01:28 AM
whats everyones beliefs on smoking marijuana while your pregnant...I dont use any other types of drugs...just marijuana
I'm 3 months at the moment. i've read about it but it seems doctors say everythings bad...even caffeine and ciggeretts!
I would love to be able to get high atleast once a week...or maybe just once a month....not a everyday thing.

IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO MAYBE HEAR FROM OTHER WOMEN WHO SMOKED DURING THEIR PREGNANCY....


BURN ONE FOR ME ATLEAST! :smokin:

Well,i smoked every once and while during my pregnancies and while nursing....all of my kids are fine.I think it's ok as long as you keep it in moderation.I don't drink so....that was never an issue for me,I also quit smoking cigarrettes.Anyway,more you need to worry about the tests the hospitals run.Cuz here in Oregon it's manditory they do drug tests on pregnant women and the babies when they're born.... and they don't tell you about it.They will take the baby away at the hospital...just make sure you're clean for the birth.:thumbsup:

poiuyt
07-29-2007, 01:55 AM
speaking of logic...did you read all of the posts? did you check out the links posted above? esp. the ones about Jamaican mothers? how is it logical to group weed with other smokables like cigarettes?

is it just *smoking* you have an issue with? how about vaping? or edibles?

If you cannot stop something as simple as cannabis for your own child, there is a problem. Enough said.

pixel
07-29-2007, 02:22 AM
sorry, studies or not, that just sounds like a bad idea.

why would you take a depressent that fucks up your mental state while you are holding a developing human in your stomach? everything you do affects him so why in the world would you take drugs for fun during your pregnancy? that makes no sense at all. pregnancy is not about YOU or YOUR fun, it is about your child and nothing else. Cannabis may be rather healthy in the field of drugs but that doesn't mean it isn't mind altering.

BTW, you might have cannabinoid receptors making it not harmful to be eaten, but what makes you think that baby has his or hers developed yet? and for that matter, what makes you think you arent giving that baby waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much thc? he is practically the size of a small basketball at 3 months...

and poiuyt summed it up nicely. supervisor this is your damn kid, you have all your life to smoke, why would you not at least try to stay healthy as possible during your pregnancy. and just cause pregnant women have caffeine does not make it right. legality has nothing to do with this. come up with some better arguments if you really wanna debate this nonissue..

sailboat
07-29-2007, 02:49 AM
i will smoke when im pregnant.
the studies done more often than not show no adverse effects to the developing child, and it has been shown to be helpful for morning sickness and other nasty pregnancy things.

i read a study somewhere that explained why smoking marijuana doesnt even get to the fetus, ill look it up when i can get back into my school database.

and just because an article is ONLINE doesnt mean it has no credibilty, it just means its accesible.

and logic is a wonderful thing, but just because you think something is logical doesnt make it so. honestly, i think anyone who claims that LOGIC says so is only using that as a scapegoat so as to avoid admiting they dont know what the fuck the are talking about and are using their own moral misconceptions as a valid argument.

Jizzle Blizzle420
07-29-2007, 02:59 AM
I would stop if I was you. Even if there is only like a 1 in 10000000000000 chance something could go wrong why would you risk it? Its 9 months of sobriety or the chance for a lifetime of regret.

sailboat
07-29-2007, 03:04 AM
eating to much fish can harm a fetus.
drinking anything with caffeine can harm a fetus.
being rear ended at a traffic light can harm a fetus.
your pet dog jumping on you to say hello can harm a fetus

one of the most common causes of stillbirth is being infected with streptococcus b. a COMMON infection.

anything you do in your life can and will adversly affect an unborn baby. the most mundane tasks are more than likely more risky than lighting a bowl on occassion, and if your argument is 'avoid all that MIGHT cause harm' please, when your pregnant or your girlfriend or whatever is pregnant, refrain from driving/walking and eating anything bu organic and unseasoned food.

pixel
07-29-2007, 03:59 AM
i will smoke when im pregnant.
the studies done more often than not show no adverse effects to the developing child, and it has been shown to be helpful for morning sickness and other nasty pregnancy things.

i read a study somewhere that explained why smoking marijuana doesnt even get to the fetus, ill look it up when i can get back into my school database.

and just because an article is ONLINE doesnt mean it has no credibilty, it just means its accesible.

and logic is a wonderful thing, but just because you think something is logical doesnt make it so. honestly, i think anyone who claims that LOGIC says so is only using that as a scapegoat so as to avoid admiting they dont know what the fuck the are talking about and are using their own moral misconceptions as a valid argument.

learn what a study means. also, please calm yourself down and be civilized, im not in the mood and im sure ppl here dont wanna read a flame war.

a study is never conclusive, a study shows that the evidence points toward something or that there is a positive correlation between two things. that doesnt mean what somethng says is law or is going to happen all the time. i know logic is GREAT isnt it!

also, if all those silly little things like caffeine and fish harm a fetus, why do you think marijuana isn't going to do anything? it's just as much of a drug as caffeine is, it has different effects, but it has effects... and so do fish obviously. i dont mean you should be OCD and stay in your house all day eating vegetables, but doing things that are not natural occurances to your body that also happen to affect your brain are very unnecessary when you are pregnant.. you can live without it.

i am a male and i happily here and now vow something to all of you cannabinauts. when my wife and i, some day in the maybe near or maybe distant future, decide to have a kid, I will not let her smoke marijuana with my consent. BUT for those nine months i hereby promise to quit my marijuana usage and unnecessary vices that I have and go along for the ride with her.

Yes that doesnt mean shit to u but i think it means something to me, I really do.

sailboat
07-29-2007, 04:15 AM
i give you props for vowing to quit to... it's commendable, and i didnt mean to come up so aggressive but i do get frustrated with certain 'it's logic' arguments.

caffeine is a drug, alcohol is a drug, thc is a drug but besides that, these three 'drugs' have few things in common....thc for instance isnt a processed drug it occurs naturally and requires no special treatment besides growing, picking, drying. it's absorbed diffeently than caffein and alcohol... besides a general classification, it's drastically different.

im not saying 'smoke to get high and get fucked up all the time because your dependent on it' but it HAS been proven to help things like morning sickness. morning sickness is a bitch, ask any one who has dealt with it. if a bowl helps, and there is little valid proof of permanent harm, im going to opt for the bowl. not for the sake of a party, but for my own well being and comfort.

rebgirl420
07-29-2007, 04:27 AM
I wouldn't risk it. Just like how some people still have a glass of wine every now and again when pregnant. Sure your probably fine. But I wouldn't want to risk it. What if something DOES happen, I couldn't live with myself.

sailboat
07-29-2007, 04:45 AM
^^

alcohol is 100% harmful, easily proven with little room for debate. i understand the 'if one then the other' bu really, besides both being mind altering, they are completley different...

just a thought, really... to each his own on this one.

rebgirl420
07-29-2007, 04:49 AM
Yeah but im just saying, why risk it? I couldnt live with the guilt if something I did left my child with a disability or something. Especially if somehow I could have prevented it. I dont even drink in the first place. And im sure weed is safe for pregnancy its just that when im pregnant im going to everything in my power to be 100 percent safe and to keep my future child safe.

sailboat
07-29-2007, 04:59 AM
and im not arguing with that:)

i just dont think smoking in moderation should be condemned the way it is.... i know so many wome whove used it as a therputic drug during pregnancy and it realy helped them through something so physically and mentally draining.

rebgirl420
07-29-2007, 05:03 AM
Oh I know I bet it does, hell it helps my bipolar. Its a wonderful thing. :thumbsup:

Jizzle Blizzle420
07-29-2007, 05:28 AM
It may help during morning sickness but it also "may" hurt your baby. Im not a woman so its hard for me to have this argument but would you rather help yourself or your child? It shouldnt take a study to figure out smoking marijuana could be harmful for your baby. Smoking is harmful for everybody. Weed may not be as bad as people make it but its still not 100% good for you. What happens when your baby is born and for the rest of its life cant remember shit or is hungry all the time...lol

sailboat
07-29-2007, 05:41 AM
EVERYTHING should require a study before it can be ruled asone thing or the other. it's ignorant to assume that just because YOU think its wrong it is wrong.

Show me hard evidence that refutes the majority of studies that find no lasting harm.
don't just say it's common sense, that is not an argument, its an unsupported oppinion.

420_24/7
07-29-2007, 06:47 PM
I think its really fucked up that yall r all arguing about someone else's baby, i think she probably just wants advice not a bunch of fuckin people arguing with each other, maybe u should just try and post experiences uve had or facts uve seen, its not ur decision, its hers

pixel
07-29-2007, 07:25 PM
^^

alcohol is 100% harmful, easily proven with little room for debate. i understand the 'if one then the other' bu really, besides both being mind altering, they are completley different...

just a thought, really... to each his own on this one.


True or False: Drinking a Glass of Red Wine a Day Can Increase Longevity (http://healthlibrary.epnet.com/GetContent.aspx?token=dce59228-1023-4705-b1c7-b407be7b4fc6&chunkiid=130814)

be careful what you say is easily proven, because the tidbit i posted above has been an established medical theory for more than 100 years..

happiestmferoutthere
07-29-2007, 07:39 PM
Headbanger4eva, my advice is do what you feel is right for you and your child. Unfortunately this thread shows you what you are in for as a mother. Everybody will judge everything you do. For 18 years. Every decision you make you will have people flame you. From what diaper you choose and what you feed your child to what school and toys you choose. Just do what is right for you. Stick to your guns! A lot can be said for the mother instinct. You really can sense whats right most of the time.Good luck!

pixel
07-29-2007, 07:41 PM
Headbanger4eva, my advice is do what you feel is right for you and your child. Unfortunately this thread shows you what you are in for as a mother. Everybody will judge everything you do. For 18 years. Every decision you make you will have people flame you. From what diaper you choose and what you feed your child to what school and toys you choose. Just do what is right for you. Stick to your guns! A lot can be said for the mother instinct. You really can sense whats right most of the time.Good luck!

u are right, but she also came here and asked us of our opinion, so what d oyou expect?

sm0k3w33d
07-30-2007, 02:18 AM
my friend is pregnant and she smokes everyday. she always has and when she found out she was pregnant she talked to a doctor who wasn't all anti-marijuana and he told her it was fine. she is now expecting a perfectly healthy baby boy in a month.

dirfjiggler
07-30-2007, 03:07 AM
Just dont smoke every day...a couple times a month seems okay to me.

The Supervisor is a good girl.

sailboat
07-30-2007, 03:15 AM
a glass of wine = moderation

smoking, in moderation.



you easily proved my point.


ive said in all my posts it wouldnt be prudent to use it for anything other than therputic purposes.
im sure a glass of red wine also somehow = theraputic.

Nailhead
07-30-2007, 08:08 AM
Yeah but im just saying, why risk it?

Because people like the woman that started this thread don't think about the future, and don't really care, they just live for themselves and hope the future turns out hunky dory. The girl isn't even married, and she smoked pot before even finding out the dangers, rather than waiting until after like any caring mother would do.

I would NEVER allow my wife to smoke anything while carrying my unborn child. I would never even want to be with someone that selfish and immature, it's disgusting how people put their own enjoyment before their kids. I have a better suggestion, go to an abortion clinic and wait to have kids until you have your life together. If you can't quit doing something for your baby for 9 god damn months then you are unfit for motherhood. I would never put the life of my children in the hands of a study that, for all we know, years later could be proved inaccurate. By the time that is found out, you'll be stuck with the consequences of your selfish behavior. So either get an abortion or grow up before the kid is born and stop being so selfish!!

Nailhead
07-30-2007, 08:13 AM
haha, ironically while I was typing that somebody posted a thread about how marijuana damages the fetal brain.

check it out:
http://boards.cannabis.com/medicinal-cannabis-health/126749-smoking-marijuana-damages-fetal-brain.html

420_24/7
07-30-2007, 05:03 PM
dude theres really no reason to criticize someone whos just looking for advice

king of the world
07-30-2007, 05:22 PM
how could you trust some of these studies. some of the studies are from the same people that say that weed is a gateway drug and that you will go mentally insane ect.
i would think twice in trusting some of the studies.

FreshNugz
07-30-2007, 05:56 PM
I think its really fucked up that yall r all arguing about someone else's baby, i think she probably just wants advice not a bunch of fuckin people arguing with each other, maybe u should just try and post experiences uve had or facts uve seen, its not ur decision, its hers




dude theres really no reason to criticize someone whos just looking for advice

I agree x2.

Have whatever opinion you want..but at least it could be vocalized calmly, without tearing her to a shred. She had a moment of weakness, and FELT BAD, and then came on and asked for anyone who's had a similar experience. She already felt bad and probably didn't need you to be so harsh with her.

Like 420_24/7 put it...its her choice.

Good luck and a safe pregnancy to you!!

onequickmove
08-01-2007, 12:19 AM
here's my best advice: don't go looking for answers to this question on a cannabis forum; seek a doctor

LuckyG
08-01-2007, 01:29 AM
Two cents time. :twocents:

Give up smoking while you're pregnant. If nothing else, it'll teach you the virtue of patience and self-control, which I understand are very important when you have a kid. :thumbsup:

LuckyG
08-01-2007, 02:31 AM
Also, poink (http://boards.cannabis.com/medicinal-cannabis-health/126749-smoking-marijuana-damages-fetal-brain.html) thanks to mseerob.

dancerat
08-04-2007, 02:10 AM
I'm 43 and have a 21 year old and a 19 year old, whom are in college, a junior and sophomore respectively. My 21 year old just got straight A's last semester and they both carry 12-15 credits, work fulltime, are incredibly bright and extremely intelligent, beautiful with no defects. I smoked probably every other day with my first baby and every so often with my second. I just never believed that marijuana was bad, and I never smoked cigarettes. I wonder if the people they do these studies on smoke anything other than green. Anyway, don't feel guilty. An occasional glass of red wine or an occasional glass of beer or an occasional j will not give your children defects or a low mentality, I promise. But I wouldn't smoke cigarettes, those are very bad. Bad, bad, bad. The only other thing that you want to make sure of is this whole testing after the pregnancy bit. We didn't have that 20 years ago, but it sounds scary. I would never do anything now that would have endangered my parental rights. I actually quit for about oh, 13 years, and just started smoking again a couple of months ago, when my children started smoking for the first time. And they don't smoke cigarettes either. It's nice to get high with the family and eat dinner and watch movies. :jointsmile:

sailboat
08-04-2007, 07:36 AM
just curious but isnt drug testing w/o consent a breach of privacy?
or... dont you at least have to have due cause?

that just seems so big brother to me and if it truly were the case, wouldnt we hear privacy advocated bitching?

headbanger4eva
08-06-2007, 02:44 PM
I just asked for a opinion....not some smart ass remark, I did quit as soon as i found out...i've only gotten high 1 or 2 in my whole pregnancy. And it does worry me....and just because i'm not married doesnt mean shit, that doesnt mean that i'm not going to be a good mom and i need to go have an abortion...THATS KILLING A BABY, and i'm totally against that...anyone who suggests somthing like that really is a moron, i would atleast have it and give it up for adoption before i'd kill an innocent life, just because I got high 1 or 2 times doesnt mean that i'm not gonna change my mind and decide to quit for the rest of my pregnancy.....thats why I ASKED FOR AN OPINION......NOT A SMART ASS REPLY

headbanger4eva
08-06-2007, 02:54 PM
Well thanx for everyones opinions...I have done my best to eat healthy, not drink much caffeine, and i've quit smoking....I felt bad after getting high when i did cause i had went 3 months without smoking any and i guess i just got alittle weak when its put in my face and everyones getting high around me, i guess from now on i'll just have to avoid those situations...cause i dont want to take a chance on anything happening to my baby even tho marijuana is a all natural plant and i dont find it to be harmful, i dont know for sure what its doing to my baby, and this point of time this baby is the most important thing in my life. I couldnt live with myself if somthing happened to it, which things can happen even if you do EVERYTHING HEALTHY possibly. It doesnt help either when my boyfriend smokes all tha time and keeps it around me, so i guess i'm gonna have to ask him to stop just outta respect for me and his baby until he has it......OH AND TO THE SMART ASS WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT ME BEING UNMARRIED, JUST CAUSE YOUR NOT MARRIED DOESNT MEAN ANYTHINGGG ABOUT BEING A GOOD MOM, THEIR ARE MANY UNMARRIED PEOPLE OUT IN THE WORLD....AND YOU DONT EVEN KNOW MY WHOLE STORY TO BE JUDGING ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE WAS PLANNING ON GETTING MARRIED A MONTH OR TWO AFTER MY BABY IS BORN SO I HAVE TIME TO LOOSE SOME OF THA WEIGHT....
and i need to keep my medicaid cause having a baby is very expensive these days
but thanx to everyone ;)

Rest Assured
08-06-2007, 02:55 PM
Two of my mates smoked a joint a day (just one) throughout their pregnancies and their kids are all fine :)

birdgirl73
08-06-2007, 03:04 PM
Even though I know you got some strongly opinionated replies, as smart-ass remarks go, you got relatively good input here, Headbanger. This is a topic that generates a lot of passionate feelings, as you clearly can see in your own response.

I don't think you should worry or beat yourself up for one or two instances of smoking. Relatively few studies have been done one marijuana use during early pregnancy, and that's as it should be since the unknowns are still greater than the knowns. Chances are it's as harmless as has been shown in the Jamaican and other studies. But no one knows for certain because no one with any ethics is going to conduct large-scale medical testing on pregnant mothers and their fetuses. Also, at a very basic level, no one wants carbon dioxide cutting into the baby's oxygen supply. It's a fairly easy question to settle when you ask yourself whether you'd hot-box an infant or blow smoke in a baby's face. Most people with good sense wouldn't. Glad you'll abstain for the rest of your pregnancy just as a precaution, even as harmless as smoking might be. Hope the rest of the pregnancy goes well and that you'll feel great.

Storm Crow
08-06-2007, 05:34 PM
Eva, about the weight thing- nurse your baby! Every calorie that goes into the baby comes out of you. I loved it when I was nursing! I could eat anything! To lose that pregnancy weight, all you have to do is eat sensibly and nurse exclusively for 6 months or more.

And about not being married. What freaking difference does it make if the "local shaman" has spoken the "magic" words or not! My hubby and I got married for two reasons- #1- It got the parents off our backs! #2- Great excuse for a party! The ceremony (trip as it was) was just something to mark the fact that we were already a couple. We were "married" long before the ceremony! Don't pay them any mind. You just do what you feel is best for you and your family. (You will anyway!- lol) - Granny:hippy:

birdgirl73
08-06-2007, 10:14 PM
Great post, Granny, as usual, in your loving and supportive style. I'm working on an email reply to you very soon!

my_bong_is_my_friend
08-07-2007, 04:04 PM
wow. just think about all the things that preggos put into their bodies everyday that are supposedly "safe." i'm sure you wouldn't say shit about one of them having soda or a cup of coffee. if cannabis was legal and it was socially acceptable you wouldn't even think twice about it.



i have a baby who is now four months old and i smoked before i knew i was pregnant and that was at about 5 weeks pregnant. nothing harmful happened to her thankfully but i stopped as soon as i found out.. just in case. i also didnt drink any soda or coffee until my doctor told me that it is actually good to have some caffeine. about one soda or half a starbucks coffee. still though, when i see pregnant women drinking soda or coffee i do think twice about it and i thought twice about it too when i drank them. so as much as i like cannabis, if there arent any actual proven statistics out yet then be safe... like someone said earlier, if you want to take the risk then thats on you but not smoking for 9 months is something i would much rather do than have something wrong with my child for their entire life.. im not saying it wont happen but im also not saying that it will. and the way i am , if it did happen... i wouldnt know if it was from the weed or not so i would feel bad all the time. i do agree though that there is probably nothing wrong with it..i know people who have smoked their entire pregnancy (cannabis) and their children are fine.. it is up to you i guess.

x-Lollypopcicle-x
08-07-2007, 04:27 PM
so that means u must not care for your unborn child coz you still smoked a spliff even though u didnt know if it would harm the baby. gosh its not hard not to smoke weed especially if there is a good reason for it..

silkyblue
08-10-2007, 04:34 AM
My friend smoked 5 to 7 times a day she had a baby girl but the baby had asthma not sure if it was caused by the herbs she smoke cigs too Id say it was the cigs

I couldnt smoke anything whilst prego
was way to ill blah!

good luck ~~


babies rock~~

sb

BudPages
08-10-2007, 05:41 AM
use common sense... if smoking is bad for you, it's bad for the baby inside of you. no reason to compromise the future of your child.

BrilloHeadBen
08-10-2007, 01:26 PM
Personally, I would advise against any foregin substances entering your body. I feel its rather selfish to risk the health and wellbeing of another just to get high, even if the risk is low. But thats just my .02

Storm Crow
08-10-2007, 02:56 PM
When you start getting morning sickness and puking your guts out EVERY fricking morning...talk to me then about not using cannabis while pregnant! Not being able to eat is bad for the baby, too! - Granny:hippy: (a bit grumpy because I haven't medicated yet)

ZeldaG.
08-11-2007, 12:55 AM
my opinion:

if you plan to stop consuming all nasties (caffeine, medicine doctors give you (the nasty ones), alcohol etc.) then sue stop cannabis too, but if your pumping yourself full of soem next shit and think ''im smart i wont smoke weed my baby will be healthy'' then your dumb!

Basially what i am saying is some of the other stuff you consume daily while pregnant is even worse then cannabis, so why stop cannabis?? :S

Seriosuly my mates girlfriend is pregnant and she stopped alcohol, cannabis, but smokes fags aevry day, im like ''you fucking ignorant fool!!'' (nto exactly but the words i say top her have a similar meaning)

Even cannabis smokers seem to feel the illegal side of it and think its worse then all the legal crap in a little way, (mainly in the public image way lol, imagine telling someone thta yoru pregnanat and have stopped alcohol, caffeine and ciggarettes but still do weedd, most folks would be like wtf?) lol

im basically blabbering but if you take the time to work it out i have a couple of good points :D (i think ;) )

BrilloHeadBen
08-11-2007, 03:50 AM
When you start getting morning sickness and puking your guts out EVERY fricking morning...talk to me then about not using cannabis while pregnant! Not being able to eat is bad for the baby, too! - Granny:hippy: (a bit grumpy because I haven't medicated yet)

hundreds of thousands of people manage to do it every year. :thumbsup:

Tea Party
08-11-2007, 06:31 AM
It shouldn't matter in the first place. If you can't stop smoking while pregnant even for the RISK of something happening, just because some scientist on the internet said something doesn't mean it's true or false, but why RISK it? There are so many things that could effect the study and/or the controls that it could never be proven 100%.

If it's too much to give up smoking while you're pregnant, I feel bad for the kid because he's going to be in one hell of a ride...
I assume you would be the male part of the childbearing equation?
It sounds as if you belief that THC is a poison like the anti-cannabis lobby. If you believe that is so, I suggest you stop smoking every day yourself.
Like supervisor said:EAT IT.
When I was born (early '70s) all of the doctors told pregnant women not to gain wait. My mother was put on diet pills during her pregnancy, and I grew up smart enough to know that nothing is certain (though I did end up quite short--but that only hurts with the ladies), and as long as the mother is eating a good diet and sleeping well, and doing yoga, and taking care of herself, that a little punna butter where required :eat:for medicinal purposes is not going to transform her offspring into curly-tailed half piggies. I would stake my medical career on it if I had one...but no nicotine or alcohol.

smokin~up~texas!
08-17-2007, 08:42 PM
:D
I am currently 6 1/2 months pregnant and i am a pothead at heart:4:I am on my 3rd child. I have always stopped smoking by the time i was 2 months. I have a homie that smoked her whole pregnancy!!!:eek:NO B.S.like 5 out of 7 days a week! I dunno how her doctor never caught onto it!!! Her baby came out fine but only 5lbs14oz. The baby is also fussy...There are always possibilities of the baby developing learning problems later in life...but the baby is fine for right now. Smoking in general is bad for the baby. I never take any chances....Thats cuz i have been a smoker for 11 yrs already. It is not hard for me to stop cuz i just think of the children i already have and i would go crazy if anything happened to them! :DIts not forever just 9 months. You have ur whole life ahead of u! I wish you the best for you and ur baby and i hope u make the right decision homie!:hippy:

Paulkishi
08-17-2007, 09:04 PM
I have witnessed a pregnant girl smoking pot, cuz she is my dealer in East St. Louis when I am attending college. She gave birth and her baby is fine.

Kaparski
08-17-2007, 09:31 PM
Wow I cant even believe people are actually considering smoking during pregancy. ANY type of smoke or drugs (excluding prescribed medicine by their doctor) are harmful to the child. Even coffee is supposed to be avoid during pregancy.

In all truth, its your kid. He turns out retarded, you'll know why.

redhotstoner
08-21-2007, 04:08 AM
how about just asking your doctor. I have thought a bit about this one myself, my friend is a doctor and she told me recently that a baby was born with THC in its body- she didn't say anthing else, but it seemed to upset her.

But if you really think about it don't you think most doctors, even ones that are pro ganga, would advise you not to toke while preggy