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pisshead
07-27-2007, 09:52 PM
New Evidence Clearly Indicates Pat Tillman Was Executed
Army medical examiners concluded Tillman was shot three times in the head from just 10 yards away, no evidence of "friendly fire" damage at scene, Army attorneys congratulated each other on cover-up, Wesley Clark concludes "orders came from the very top" to murder pro-football star because he was about to become an anti-war political icon Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet (http://www.prisonplanet.com/index.html)
Friday, July 27, 2007
Astounding new details surrounding the death of Pat Tillman clearly indicate that top brass decided to execute the former pro football star in cold blood to prevent him from returning home and becoming an anti-war icon.
These same criminals then engaged in a sophisticated conspiracy to create a phony "friendly fire" cover story.
Shocking new facts emerged about the case last night but were bizarrely underplayed by the Associated Press under nondescript headlines like 'New Details on Tillman's Death' (http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/26/ap3958728.html) - a complete disservice to the horrific implications that the new evidence carries.
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Army medical examiners were suspicious about the close proximity of the three bullet holes in Pat Tillman's forehead and tried without success to get authorities to investigate whether the former NFL player's death amounted to a crime, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press.
"The medical evidence did not match up with the, with the scenario as described," a doctor who examined Tillman's body after he was killed on the battlefield in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.
The doctors - whose names were blacked out - said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away.
The report also states that "No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene - no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck."
The article also reveals that "Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay as the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire investigation that resulted in administrative, or non-criminal, punishments."
So there was no evidence whatsoever of friendly fire, but the ballistics data clearly indicated that the three head shots had been fired from just 10 yards away and then the Army tried to concoct a hoax friendly fire story and sent gloating back-slapping e mails congratulating each other on their success while preventing the doctors from exploring the possibility of murder. How can any sane and rational individual weigh this evidence and not come to the conclusion that Tillman was deliberately gunned down in cold blood?
The evidence points directly to it and the motivation is clear - Tillman abandoned a lucrative career in pro-football immediately after 9/11 because he felt a rampaging patriotic urge to defend his country, and became a poster child for the war on terror as a result. But when he discovered that the invasion of Iraq was based on a mountain of lies and deceit and had nothing to do with defending America, he became infuriated and was ready to return home to become an anti-war hero.
As far back as March 2003, immediately after the invasion, Tillman famously told his comrade (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/09/25/MNGD7ETMNM1.DTL&type=printable) Spc. Russell Baer, "You know, this war is so fucking illegal," and urged his entire platoon to vote against Bush in the 2004 election. Far from the gung-ho gruff stereotype attributed to him, Tillman was actually a fiercely intellectual man with the courage of his convictions firmly in place.
Tillman had even begun to arrange meetings with anti-war icons like Noam Chomsky upon his return to America before his death cut short any aspirations of becoming a focal point for anti-war sentiment.
According to Daily Kos (http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/26/212449/970), Wesley Clark appeared on Keith Olbermann's Countdown last night and stated that "the orders came from the very top" to murder Tillman as he was a political symbol and his opposition to the war in Iraq would have rallied the population around supporting immediate withdrawal.
The notion that the U.S. government gave orders for Army top brass to execute Pat Tillman in cold blood is the most damaging indictment of the Iraq war since it began, trumping the lies about weapons of mass destruction tenfold, but if the establishment media continue to soft-peddle and steam-valve one of the biggest stories of the century its impact will be completely diluted.
It is up to us to make this story go viral because the implications are so dire that they could act as the final death knell for the blood-soaked and illegal occupation of Iraq and become the clarion call to bring our troops home.
pwn3dy0
07-27-2007, 11:14 PM
Well, if you studied this story it shouldn't surprise you one bit. All the evidence was pointing to this, and now it's all but offical. My heart goes out to Pat Tillman's family. A true patriot whose only crime was not realizing the government is corrupt and treats him and all soldiers like tiolet paper.
Blindman0v0
07-28-2007, 01:58 AM
Yeah but this isn't the governments fault.This was the fault of some low life soldiers that were probably pissed off at his celebrity status and just thought it wasn't fair for the big NFL star to get all the limelight.I've also read reports where Tillman was said to be somewhat of an egotistical asshole.Not a reason to kill him but shit happens if uou have an attitude.
medicinal
07-28-2007, 03:57 PM
This sounds a little far out there. I know Bush-Cheney are evil assholes, but to put a hit on a soldier in a warzone and make it look like an accident is not that hard, even those assholes could have come up with a better plan than shooting him in the forehead from 10 feet away. It sounds more like someone really got pissed, like he was bullying someone and they went off. If what I've read of Tillmans abusive nature towards a weaker individual (bullying) is true, I can see how someone in a war zone carrying an M-16 could just lose it and pop him. Then not wanting the public to know about this behavior, they covered it up.
Blindman0v0
07-28-2007, 05:20 PM
It was done quite a few times in nam.And I'm sure it will continue to happen.You have to earn the respect of your fellow soldiers,not demand it.
Anubis10012007
07-28-2007, 05:57 PM
Well just look at Pat! He was like the epitome of a strong male American. I guess their intention was to make him look like this great American hero, big and strong defending liberty. But if he was against the war, he would use his popularity to voice against it so they had to "take care of the problem".
eg420ne
07-29-2007, 04:18 AM
Congressional Hearing Next Week on Pat Tillman Cover-Up! YouTube - CONGRESSIONAL HEARING NEXT WEEK ON PAT TILLMAN COVER-UP! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zutTJofJnZI)
This is the last straw, I hope.......was he shot in the legs as well? maybe while running away ...sooo sad
eg420ne
07-29-2007, 04:20 AM
It was done quite a few times in nam.And I'm sure it will continue to happen.You have to earn the respect of your fellow soldiers,not demand it.
Say Whaaaa?!?!?!!?
eg420ne
07-29-2007, 04:24 AM
This sounds a little far out there. I know Bush-Cheney are evil assholes, but to put a hit on a soldier in a warzone and make it look like an accident is not that hard, even those assholes could have come up with a better plan than shooting him in the forehead from 10 feet away. It sounds more like someone really got pissed, like he was bullying someone and they went off. If what I've read of Tillmans abusive nature towards a weaker individual (bullying) is true, I can see how someone in a war zone carrying an M-16 could just lose it and pop him. Then not wanting the public to know about this behavior, they covered it up.
Wait dude-----The report also states that "No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene - no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck." so he just like bullying people , Naw dude he was about to come-out about how phony this damn war is.....
medicinal
07-29-2007, 06:39 AM
Wait dude-----The report also states that "No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene - no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck." so he just like bullying people , Naw dude he was about to come-out about how phony this damn war is.....
Look, I know Bush-Cheney could fuck up a wet dream, but don't you think an execution order would be meant to look like an accident or enemy fire, not 3 shots to the forehead. That was the act of a pissed off dude. "Hey asshole, I've had enough of your bullshit, Blam Blam Blam, sorry sarge, what can we do to cover this up?
delusionsofNORMALity
07-29-2007, 08:31 AM
Naw dude he was about to come-out about how phony this damn war is.....
anyone with access to a microphone and a bone to pick has come-out against this war and i don't see many of them taking a triple shot to the brain pan.
the perfect conspiracy is impossible to prove or disprove.:rolleyes:
medicinal
07-29-2007, 02:04 PM
anyone with access to a microphone and a bone to pick has come-out against this war and i don't see many of them taking a triple shot to the brain pan.
the perfect conspiracy is impossible to prove or disprove.:rolleyes:
M-16s are after my service time, but I believe you can set them on a 3 round burst with one pull of the trigger. sounds more like what happened as most GIs kept them set that way, just pointed and pulled the trigger bing bang boom 3 in the forehead. In war zones, even the bullies had to watch their steps, because if they were hated by regular guys, they had a tendecy to get it in the back, thats why I say he must have really pissed someone off to get hit from 10 ft. away in the face. I could be wrong, maybe the CIA hit him, but I think they would have done a cleaner hit.
eg420ne
07-29-2007, 06:42 PM
A perfect conspiracy is the one you get away with...
...PS he was about to talked to Norm Chomsky...dont know who he is, then read up on him.......our criminal government dont like him or anyone thats talks like him........
eg420ne
07-29-2007, 06:46 PM
Why would they burn his journal....ummm cause the sloppy dude that killed him needed fire:rolleyes:..please stop protecting this evil government!.................
eg420ne
07-29-2007, 06:52 PM
M-16s are after my service time, but I believe you can set them on a 3 round burst with one pull of the trigger. sounds more like what happened as most GIs kept them set that way, just pointed and pulled the trigger bing bang boom 3 in the forehead. In war zones, even the bullies had to watch their steps, because if they were hated by regular guys, they had a tendecy to get it in the back, thats why I say he must have really pissed someone off to get hit from 10 ft. away in the face. I could be wrong, maybe the CIA hit him, but I think they would have done a cleaner hit.
dude again---- The report also states that "No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene - no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck."
eg420ne
07-29-2007, 06:57 PM
O'Neal said Tillman, a corporal, threw a smoke grenade to identify themselves to fellow soldiers who were firing at them. Tillman was waving his arms shouting "Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat (expletive) Tillman, damn it!" again and again when he was killed, O'Neal said.My Way News - Tillman Comrade Recalls Final Moments (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070729/D8QM1Q380.html)
WesMan6868
07-29-2007, 06:59 PM
RIP, ill see you again some day
eg420ne
07-29-2007, 07:27 PM
Yes RIP Pat.......lets hope justice comes quick to the ones who ordered your death
:mad::mad::mad:............
eg420ne
07-29-2007, 07:35 PM
Hey Wesly Clark speaks up about this as well...even he says murder......triple tat in the head by gunho team of murderers, and then burn his clothes and his journal.........America the Sad worthless excuse for a nation to continued this ungodly war for OIL, Land Grab, Israel, SA..................Hey PNACERs i think you need a new Pearl Harbor Event........
Thepossumdance
07-29-2007, 07:50 PM
not gonna lie dont really think the government was all that concerned about pat tillman speaking out against the war... if he really acted like a dick out there i wouldnt be supprised to find out that one of his buddy's gave him a full burst to the face... btw m16 cant be set to full auto they are semi auto or 3rd burst now its still fucked up that the government tried to cover up this incident whether it was just some GI pushed over the edge by an over-agressive tillman or a crazy murder conspiracy that came down from GW himself... also if he had time to say all this shit while people were shooting at him from that close it sounds like they were less than professional and i suspect if there was a serious conspiracy thing going on they would more than likely get someone who was able to shoot to carry it through
Dutch Pimp
07-29-2007, 08:19 PM
...any american soldier that kills another american soldier should hang...
I don't normally attend hangings...but I would make an exception in this case.
Anubis10012007
07-29-2007, 10:26 PM
so they were afraid that Pat would use his fame and popularity to gain support for an antiwar movement against Iraq. So he had to be eliminated. So sad and my sympathy goes out to the family.
Only Cindy Sheehan has really been the leader of the population anti war movement, but Pat probably would have equaled or surpassed because he was there on the battlefield so I think IMO, that he would have gained a bigger support.
medicinal
07-30-2007, 05:41 PM
dude again---- The report also states that "No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene - no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck."
Doesn't this support my theory?
eg420ne
07-30-2007, 08:15 PM
That he's a bully....and one of his teammates got sick of getting stuck up the yingyang wit a cumcumber...
More excution style! Sure go back in the military and tell everyone that your gonna speak to Norm,,,,,,,go 4 it
DuDe they burnt his journal, even his mom said his journal was important...and then the WHOLE military coverd it up.......
IDK dude maybe im reading what you said wrong...please provide more intel in what your saying....cuase im saying MURDER in the 1st degree by everyone from top to bottom, and usally the bottom feeders get all the shit.....
delusionsofNORMALity
07-30-2007, 09:13 PM
....cause im saying MURDER in the 1st degree by everyone from top to bottom.....
this country was founded on dissenting opinion. anyone with two brain cells to rub together can tell you that any greatness this country may have attained is due primarily to our personal freedom to deviate from the norm. once dissent is stifled this nation begins to die and those in power are as aware of that fact as you and i. they have little fear of those small voices, even the louder voices are merely a minor nuisance.
why would the powerful take such a risk to silence one tiny voice when government itself is filled with so many who oppose the war. this grasping at straws to gather ammunition against the administration is a fool's errand and diminishes the credibility of those more serious efforts to stem the rising tide of totalitarianism. one idiot standing in the middle of the town square screaming "the sky is falling" serves only to discredit those who claim that what is falling on us is dangerous and something must be done to keep us from being engulfed in the gathering shit.
it's entirely possible that this death from friendly fire was not accidental and equally possible that there was some cover-up to save the military from the ensuing embarrassment, but to believe that an order came down from the highest levels of command to silence pat tillman strains the limits of probability and common sense.
eg420ne
07-30-2007, 09:18 PM
How can it be friendly fire when the doc say there was no enemy fire......O'Neal said Tillman, a corporal, threw a smoke grenade to identify themselves to fellow soldiers who were firing at them. Tillman was waving his arms shouting "Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat (expletive) Tillman, damn it!" again and again when he was killed, O'Neal said.My Way News - Tillman Comrade Recalls Final Moments
freking murder in the first degree
eg420ne
07-30-2007, 09:19 PM
.why would they burn his journal
eg420ne
07-30-2007, 09:22 PM
man i cant believe people think pat was a bully just because a false report was put out...this is a bigstory i have many friends n family in the military i dont want this shit to happen to them and no1 else does either ....stop protecting this government
eg420ne
07-30-2007, 09:28 PM
When did USA turn into USSA.............
medicinal
07-31-2007, 05:21 PM
this country was founded on dissenting opinion. anyone with two brain cells to rub together can tell you that any greatness this country may have attained is due primarily to our personal freedom to deviate from the norm. once dissent is stifled this nation begins to die and those in power are as aware of that fact as you and i. they have little fear of those small voices, even the louder voices are merely a minor nuisance.
why would the powerful take such a risk to silence one tiny voice when government itself is filled with so many who oppose the war. this grasping at straws to gather ammunition against the administration is a fool's errand and diminishes the credibility of those more serious efforts to stem the rising tide of totalitarianism. one idiot standing in the middle of the town square screaming "the sky is falling" serves only to discredit those who claim that what is falling on us is dangerous and something must be done to keep us from being engulfed in the gathering shit.
it's entirely possible that this death from friendly fire was not accidental and equally possible that there was some cover-up to save the military from the ensuing embarrassment, but to believe that an order came down from the highest levels of command to silence pat tillman strains the limits of probability and common sense.
Yup, we agree. The guy was a bully and someone had enough and just said fuck you and shot him in the head. then to save embarassment, the seargeant covered it up and the leutenant and the major just went along, once past the field report, it was considered the facts. The M-16 set on a 3 tap setting could produce 3 holes in the forehead from 10 yards as there is hardly any recoil before they are out of the barrel. Or one at 10 yards and then the other two after he was down. It would take a lot of hate to stand over a downed guy and put two holes in his forehead.
Anubis10012007
07-31-2007, 05:39 PM
anyone with access to a microphone and a bone to pick has come-out against this war and i don't see many of them taking a triple shot to the brain pan.
the perfect conspiracy is impossible to prove or disprove.:rolleyes:Most conspiracies are kept secret pretty well due to the ignorance of the population. Who's gonna buy it? Thats the defense mechanism!
medicinal
07-31-2007, 07:05 PM
Most conspiracies are kept secret pretty well due to the ignorance of the population. Who's gonna buy it? Thats the defense mechanism!
I watched a program on the ruling class on TV, a documentary (sundance channel). Very scary stuff. All the insiders have been members of the tri-lateral commision or some position in federal government. Us on the outside don't have a chance of changing the system and those on the inside don't want to, to be accepted, you must go to an Ivy league school, Harvard, Yale, Princeton etc., get 4.0 grades, and then be asked in by some son of a member. None of us commoners need apply.
Dutch Pimp
07-31-2007, 07:11 PM
Yup, we agree. The guy was a bully and someone had enough and just said fuck you and shot him in the head. then to save embarassment, the seargeant covered it up and the leutenant and the major just went along, once past the field report, it was considered the facts. The M-16 set on a 3 tap setting could produce 3 holes in the forehead from 10 yards as there is hardly any recoil before they are out of the barrel. Or one at 10 yards and then the other two after he was down. It would take a lot of hate to stand over a downed guy and put two holes in his forehead.
...like you said, that's cold...or damn good shooting, one...
fragging would have been better...rarely fatal...they get the purple heart...and go on like nothing ever happen...the medics write up the injury reports...:thumbsup:...however they are told to....:pimp:...
eg420ne
07-31-2007, 07:47 PM
oh where! oh where!.. do you see signs that pat was a bully....and dont bring up that chaplins quote its already been debunked
eg420ne
07-31-2007, 08:31 PM
WASHINGTON â?? â?? The Army on Tuesday censured a retired three-star general for the chain of errors that followed the friendly-fire death in 2004 of Army Ranger Pat Tillman. It referred to a special panel whether retired Army Lt. Gen. Philip Kensinger should also have his rank reduced.
Army Secretary Pete Geren told a Pentagon news conference that Kensinger was "guilty of deception" and had deceived investigators.
"It's a perfect storm of mistakes, misjudgments and a failure of leadership," said Geren in announcing his decision after an investigation into the death of the former pro football player.
Retired general censured in Tillman case | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/politics/5015344.html)
Kensinger headed Army special operations.
The general bore the brunt of the punishment. Nine other officers were criticized but not punished.
medicinal
08-03-2007, 09:33 PM
Although it was a terrible thing and needs to be brought out in the open, I'm sure there are a few more "friendly fire" deaths that need investigation also. If Tillman was the bully as reported, maybe he deserved some come uppance, but execution is not an option. That was either mistaken Identity, or a planned attack. Wonder which it will turn out to be?
eg420ne
08-04-2007, 01:32 AM
If Tillman was the bully as reported, maybe he deserved some come uppance?
Thanks for the linkoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Gorlax
08-04-2007, 05:53 AM
This is absolutely bullshit. Though the government has some things to fix it is definitely not killing its own soldiers. I respect our country very much and it is almost a damn disgrace to hear something like this. Who ever wrote this article was obviously vigorously against the war. Giving an immediate bias opinion. Some people are just upset about people dying in war, but ladies & gentlemen we are not going to go just shake hands, war is a nasty game. What better way to find more evidence to impeach bush then to say he put a hit on a Football player. They never took in fact conditions of the weather when he was killed, or the whole scenario. To me this seems to be a tragic case of Friendly Fire. I mean come on you think the most powerful nation in the world can't cover up one murder, when hundreds of morons believe that they covered up the world trade center. This shit is ridiculous all of it. Maybe if our damn country wasn't growing up as spoiled and fucking ignorant as they are today then maybe we would have more appreciation for what great of a country we live in. We all could be living in an AIDS infested Africa or a Communist Korea. Sometimes I think that Americans have forgot all the hard work and fighting that our fathers, grandfathers, great grandfathers, and even moms and grandmothers have done to protect this land we live on. Come on we live in a country of overweight, plastic, and ignorant people. Maybe if we all just Toked up a few times and month and just realized how awesome shit really is then maybe we would have these dumb stories out of here. Please excuse my temper, " I get steamed up when I hear anything deeming our country since my family is made up of several ex vets". And I will do anything to stand up for my country
eg420ne
08-04-2007, 08:45 AM
.........Its tooo bad we have a government FULL of Criminals or other-wise- i can say, hey! he bullied a mutheruker so they shot him --triple tatatatat on that asss(@close range)....then got rid of his clothes and journal- Pats mom and brother said he kept....but hey if i was this criminal government i sure wouldnt like a person like Pat to meet wit Norm....................tooo much cover-up from top to bottom.....
Dutch Pimp
08-04-2007, 06:10 PM
COL. Jeff Bailey..Tillman's ranger battalion commander
-written memorandum for his handling of the punishment against the Rangers involved in the shooting of Tillman.
these are the people that know what happened.
medicinal
08-04-2007, 07:13 PM
COL. Jeff Bailey..Tillman's ranger battalion commander
-written memorandum for his handling of the punishment against the Rangers involved in the shooting of Tillman.
these are the people that know what happened.
Are you saying that for the good of the batallion they wouldn't cover some asses. Some things get left on the battlefield, take it from an old soldier.
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