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Jah420
07-27-2007, 08:38 AM
The latest in the British media onslaught on cannabis has just about pushed it over the fucking edge.. I've been tracing articles and watching the news specials on it for weeks and now I've had enough.

Front page major newspaper headline this morning: "Cannabis: Risk In One Joint", and an accompanying article on how a single joint almost doubles your chances of developing a psychotic illness.. continued on 4 a full comprehensive cannabis bashing article complete with murderous nutters that obviously drew their inspiration for gruesome multiple murders from a beautiful plant.


Son of a nurse at Broadmoor Thomas Palmer butchered two of his friends during a woodland walk after his mind was warped by smoking skunk - a particularly potent form of cannabis.


William Jaggs, a 23-year-old Oxford University student and prolific cannabis user, stabbed fashion designer Lucy Braham 66 times

And of course the three oh so necessary profile picture comments:


Prolific cannabis user and killer


Drug-crazed killer


Mind warped by smoking skunk

So what've we got here... I'm seeing 'butchered', 'warped', 'stabbed', 'killer', 'drug-crazed'.... BTW this is all in an article about cannabis. I'm fucking sickened.

Personally I wouldn't reccomend it, but if you want to read more: Smoking just one cannabis joint raises danger of mental illness by 40% | the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=471106&in_page_id=1770&ct=5)

Peace everyone.

slipknotpsycho
07-27-2007, 09:03 AM
i love how they choose to 'view' things like this...

i mean first isn't it just mildly possible the people with issues (depression anxiety etc) use weed to help with those problems?

second... isn't it just a slight possiblity those mother fuckers were crazy from the get-go...?

there's a quote from chris rock that fits so perfectly at this time...

"whatever happened to crazy? can't you just be crazy no more?"

Jah420
07-27-2007, 09:57 AM
i love how they choose to 'view' things like this...

i mean first isn't it just mildly possible the people with issues (depression anxiety etc) use weed to help with those problems?

second... isn't it just a slight possiblity those mother fuckers were crazy from the get-go...?

there's a quote from chris rock that fits so perfectly at this time...

"whatever happened to crazy? can't you just be crazy no more?"

Haha good analysis of the situation.. and damn.. chris rock.. haven't seen any of his stuff in time..

But yeah man if these profiled people are just using weed to cover up their problems then things are gonna happen.. its absolutely fucking out of order that it's being blamed on cannabis. It actually says in the article that these people have used other drugs, c*ke was mentioned.. fuck knows what else.

rebgirl420
07-27-2007, 10:01 AM
It amazes me that bullshit like that is still accepted in the news, just like it was in the 20's and 30's. Its like the movie Reefer Madness. I am amazed at how a media source can print such garbage. But whats sad is that theres not a damn thing we can do about it. Its like preaching to someone whos a jehova Witness. Its a lost cause. Their minds have already been tainted by the bullshit.

rebgirl420
07-27-2007, 10:08 AM
haha its what I do

KingsBlend420
07-27-2007, 10:22 AM
It's funny how they are always saying shit like this when new medicinal marijuana bills are being passed all the time and states are making medicinal marijuana legal. Idiots.

slipknotpsycho
07-27-2007, 10:50 AM
It's funny how they are always saying shit like this when new medicinal marijuana bills are being passed all the time and states are making medicinal marijuana legal. Idiots.

erm.... this is from the uk, not us... lol

Reefer Rogue
07-27-2007, 10:57 AM
See all you guys in 20 years when we'll ALL BE SKITZO ;)

rebgirl420
07-27-2007, 10:58 AM
^ You mean your not already? hahah;)

Reefer Rogue
07-27-2007, 11:03 AM
I don't know, what is reality :stoned:

rebgirl420
07-27-2007, 11:05 AM
I dunno hun but my 3 other voices are arguing right now.....and I think their doing it in Spanish

LIP
07-27-2007, 11:34 AM
I've been pissed off since i started smoking it, because this has always been around, and now it's more than ever, and it's more bullshit than ever. Everything these idiots are saying is fabricated crap. People lap it up coz it's there. BUT it's not true. None of it is. Every single little thing they say is complete crap. That's the media for you.

In todays paper they had an article all about phycosis and they said smoking it regular increases chances of cannabis phycosis 200% and then at the end in small they put that it's not a definate link. BUT they make it out that it is, and that's the bit people pay attention too. They only put that on the very end to save themselves. It's all CRAP.

When are we going to loose our temper? Coz im loosing mine now, and i want something done. Like i said before, it's all very well being peaceful about it, but we've been doing that since it was made illegal - it's just not working. Not with people having to read this shit.

Jim M
07-27-2007, 12:15 PM
light a blunt,sit back n watch the news an laugh at all those cocksuckers that don't know what they're missing...

fasterspider
07-27-2007, 01:22 PM
The media get's it's money from pharmaceutical companies for posting stories llike that. Money talks and everyone listens.
If as much money was put toward the legalization of weed as there is from the pharmaceutical companies to keep it illegal, we would not have these problems.
They can't control it, they do not want it out there.
If it were Mcniel or Glaxo-Smith-Kline growing and supplying the world with weed, it would be legal. That you can count on.
It is just like the oil companies killing the fully electric car, they were threatened and murdered a complete car design that was good for the enviroment and people wanted.

Nocturnal Stoner
07-27-2007, 01:32 PM
pg 4 of todays times pisses me off.

They say that they've managed to convert many ministers who had a liberal view on it. It's getting to a point where it's complete indiscriminate brainwashing.

It's time to scapegoat another drug to divert attention. We have a serious drug problem in this country but not weed. I know loads of my old mates doing heroin, but not real heroin, chasing the dragon on foil, I have old mates who do crack. Another mate I know is an alcoholic at 16, he drinks everyday.

My god, weed is bad....they're just choking cause nobody's died yet. I think it's to weaken the supporters, but were winning.

Number of cannabis use has fallen since being downgraded, so where's the logic in reclassification.

Sort out the real problem.

Also the majority of experiments done are to try and prove that it's extremely harmful, the only harm is that smoking just is bad for your lungs and also some people with existing mental conditions can and cannot benefit, but they categorize everyone as one type., but they don't mention vaporising on the news now do they?

Staurm
07-27-2007, 02:09 PM
Smoking just one cannabis joint raises danger of mental illness by 40% | the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=471106&in_page_id=1770&ct=5)

Yeah but what they don't realise is that reading just one edition of The Daily Mail increases the likelihood of you being out of your fucking mind by about 110%. I'll take the slightly lesser risk, it's more fun anyway.

Nation_1ne
07-27-2007, 03:01 PM
The UK Ladies and Gents should all get together in London and hold some sort of protest. Have signs stating people who have done good and smoked cannabis, or are doing good and smoke cannabis. Not only that but holding up signs of people who have done good but have also committed crimes.

Demeter
07-27-2007, 04:20 PM
Fastspider's right boys and girls, it is all about big pharm and MONEY.
That being said, I believe that if screenwriters took up the cause and showed the reality of marijuana, its mainstream use by responsible citizens, eventually we can get people to learn- for example:
films depicting homosexuality more realistically have helped further the cause of acceptance of gay people and gay marriage, and I think if we want marijuana use to become decriminalized in people's minds, we have to fight against these stereotypes the same way. In the 70's "All in the Family" was groundbreaking comedy exposing all sorts of isms- racism, sexism, etc. We could do the same, with humor, to debunk the myths of reefer madness etc. Now we have some cable shows about pot, but we really need widespread tv and film treatments that show the truth to the deluded masses! We need painters and poets willing to speak clearly. We need to change the perception of a country, and since we are a media obsessed nation, what better way to reach millions? So I say- create! We need a bunch of pot-smoking "Friends" on TV who aren't lazy slackers :stoned: We need "Sex in the City" with a gorgeous bong on the coffee table! We need to show CEOs smoking dank at the end of a very profitable day! I am hoping to develop something along these lines and would welcome any ideas:D

Bluntmasterbabe
07-27-2007, 04:28 PM
That's such a lie! Most of the stoners I know are very chill, relaxed, and loving people:)

Gandalf_The_Grey
07-27-2007, 04:49 PM
Well lets see. One joint doubles your chance of schizophrenia, 1/3 of Americans have admitted to using cannabis at some point in their lives, and the number is probably larger. That means 100 million people should be at double risk for szhizophrenia. Checking out Schizophrenia.com - Schizophrenia Fact and Schizophrenia Statistics (http://www.schizophrenia.com/szfacts.htm) , the following is their explanation, copy/pasted for the cause of schizophrenia.
Today the leading theory of why people get schizophrenia is that it is a result of a genetic predisposition combined with an environmental exposures and / or stresses during pregnancy or childhood that contribute to, or trigger, the disorder.

But more importantly, relevant to the original topic, I took the following from their site:

The Prevalance Rate for schizophrenia is approximately 1.1% of the population over the age of 18 (source: NIMH) or, in other words, at any one time as many as 51 million people worldwide suffer from schizophrenia, including;

6 to 12 million people in China (a rough estimate based on the population)
4.3 to 8.7 million people in India (a rough estimate based on the population)
2.2 million people in USA
285,000 people in Australia
Over 280,000 people in Canada
Over 250,000 diagnosed cases in Britain


So at 2.2 million out of 100 million Americans who have used cannabis, and assuming (to be generous to our prohibitionist friends) every single person with schizophrenia has used cannabis, it would seem the prevelance of schizophrenia among (minimum one-time) cannabis users is approximately 1/50.

Facts don't quite add up do they?

Bluntmasterbabe
07-27-2007, 04:53 PM
I felt like I was doing a math problem there...lol:D You're right though...doesn't quite add up:)

BUZz UK
07-27-2007, 04:54 PM
Yeah but what they don't realise is that reading just one edition of The Daily Mail increases the likelihood of you being out of your fucking mind by about 110%. I'll take the slightly lesser risk, it's more fun anyway.

lmfao, too true! :thumbsup:

3rdEyeVision
07-27-2007, 05:07 PM
its funny that pot heads still get angry by this kind of stuff, you'd think after like 20 years or something we'd start to ignore it but whatever. this is the same bullcrap lies that they spread around everything, anybody remember a little thing called rock n' roll? they linked murders with rock n' roll all the time back in the day and now that their over that they have to find something else to complain about. the people who put out crap like this are only as powerful as we make them really, all you have to do is ignore this crap.

Nocturnal Stoner
07-27-2007, 05:10 PM
if cannabis makes people kill, then why isn't the world empty?

3rdEyeVision
07-27-2007, 05:17 PM
if cannabis makes people kill, then why isn't the world empty?

we probably got distracted lol.

Gandalf_The_Grey
07-27-2007, 05:24 PM
its funny that pot heads still get angry by this kind of stuff, you'd think after like 20 years or something we'd start to ignore it but whatever. this is the same bullcrap lies that they spread around everything, anybody remember a little thing called rock n' roll? they linked murders with rock n' roll all the time back in the day and now that their over that they have to find something else to complain about. the people who put out crap like this are only as powerful as we make them really, all you have to do is ignore this crap.

They still do, except now they blame all the school shootings on metal.

Chronisseur
07-27-2007, 05:27 PM
Its personally hard for me, being a very positive member of society to be criminalized in my truthful pursuit of happiness. I will not be hurt by media, but inspired to infiltrate this bias form of political strength, and plant as many seeds as possible until the truth is adequately recognized by our federal govt. and not one person is left suffering, in fear of losing the freedom they would otherwise be asked to die for.

weedmaster
07-27-2007, 05:32 PM
so after smoking just 1 joint your brain can fuck up? this may be true for some people just look at how many m.ps have admitted to smokeing lol, fuck the lot of them, i just laugh at their ignorance.:S2:

4twentE
07-27-2007, 05:34 PM
I wonder just how old the publishers and editors and stuff of articles like this are. Seems to me the newest couple generations accept that weed is here to stay, whether they smoke or not. So my point/questions is: are articles and things like these maybe a last ditch effort by the old conservative generation to keep weed illegal? I believe if you put our generation in charge, no matter who or what type of people actually get the power, weed would be legalized.

Demeter
07-27-2007, 06:14 PM
its funny that pot heads still get angry by this kind of stuff, you'd think after like 20 years or something we'd start to ignore it but whatever. this is the same bullcrap lies that they spread around everything, anybody remember a little thing called rock n' roll? they linked murders with rock n' roll all the time back in the day and now that their over that they have to find something else to complain about. the people who put out crap like this are only as powerful as we make them really, all you have to do is ignore this crap.

Ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away, you know. The criminalization of marijuana has hurt many people. As MLK jr said- "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

Ignoring the crap is the lazy way out, and that is what those folks are counting on, that we will be too scared and stoned and complacent to respond to the lies. I hope they are wrong!

LIP
07-28-2007, 12:58 PM
You know what? I'm not sure ANY of these so called studies have been done at all. I think it's all just written up and then they estimate a large figure but make sure it's beliveable and then they go and print it. They know they're lying, because they're working it out - and the government arnt going to actually pay for these tests, because they know it's safe. They're more likely to keep our cash and shove it in their back pocket.

Staurm
07-28-2007, 01:25 PM
Did anyone see BBC news yesterday? Yet more bullshit for the cannabis witch hunt. As an example, I suspect it's made up, a mother talking about how her son turned psychotic as a result of smoking skunk weed. His first victim was his father, yes that's right he smoked pot and then killed his dad. He didn't accept that it was turning him into a killer, because of course he was on drugs and therefore wasn't thinking straight....

It pisses me of greatly to see the UK going backwards again, not that David (blind as a bucket) Blunkett brought us very far forwards 7 years ago. Having been a smoker for several years I am now starting to isolate a great number of negative factors in my life that I attribute indirectly to cannabis discrimation. One of them is the attitude my immediate family, whom I have been quite open with about it with, has towards my cannabis use.

My step father and I have never gotten on very well, largely on account of him being a bitter old man, and a cantankerous bastard all the time I have known him. Now that I am a fully grown man, and physically stronger than he is, there are times when I could seriously crack him one on the chin, however in doing so I risk not only hurting my mother, but inadvertently killing him on account of his serious heart condition.

So, there goes the BBC with more bullshit furthering the myth that cannabis turns you into a cold blooded killer, and subsequently reinforcing the existing view that my mother seems to have about my cannabis use, that it could turn me into a schitzophrenic with uncontrollable violent tendencies. She ascertained that I was potentialy at risk from this from the advice she gathered from several doctors whom she used to work with in a hospital, when she was a nurse. As a result of the propaganda war against us cannabis users, my own mother is now frightened of me.

What is Gordon Brown playing at do you think? I suspect he might very well be using this as a way to distance himself in the media from the greatly unpopular Tony Blair. Either way, I hope he and that stupid arsehole of a home secretary of his, vinegar tits, fuck off very soon in an early election, before they get the chance to put this "Brownian de-motion" through parliament. I think everyone in the UK should write to their MP unequivocally describing this as cannabis discrimation and reccomending they vote against it.

:rastasmoke:

LIP
07-28-2007, 01:35 PM
I'm much like you Staturm with my Father as you are with your step father.

We never got on much and we was always fighting, but i NEVER hit him in the head or the face. These were seriously arguments, proper fighting but i could control myself not to hurt the old twat. But in those fights i could have easily done him one, and im not sure what that'd do. I could have snapped, but i didnt, havnt and wont in the future. They're trying to make it out as though cannabis DOES it to everyone, as though it's fact. It's bollocks and people beleive it.

Staurm
07-28-2007, 01:47 PM
The thing about this news article was that it didn't actually say HOW the guy killed his father, it may very well be that his father was nipping at him, perhaps calling him a no good junkie or something, and in any case rejecting him for it. Maybe the guy just flipped on it one day and slapped him, and accidentally killed him. The story seemed to want to delibaretely mislead the viewer into jumping to the conclusion that he went crazy one day brandishing a knife and in a blind rage killed his father. It may be the case, but the fact that it didn't specifically say so makes me think there is more to the story than what they want us to know.

I'm not capable of voilence towards anyone LIP, there are times when I feel like hitting someone, but I always pull back, in many ways its part of my spiritual discipline to never bring harm to another living creature. But, the irritable nature I tend to sport around the house when I am at home with my parents on account of my step fathers incessant complaining and putting me down all time tends to further add to my mothers fears about me.

JD1stTimer
07-28-2007, 03:33 PM
^^^ Gandalf: I usually see murder blamed on video games in the US. It's because you play grand theft auto, and it makes you have a complete bloodlust. I think if you you were to play GTA while smoking a blunt, who knows, you will almost certainly (The real statistics are 98%) destroy the western hemisphere with nuclear missiles, use the ashes to grow more pot, feed it to your three-headed dog, and then he will fly around the world eating the goiters from the fallout victims. Seriously, one of my friends did that after he got some second-hand cannabis smoke. TOTAL ARMAGEDDON LURKS IN THOSE TRICHOMES. Plus something else that completely validates my claim is the fact the the trichomes ARE SHAPED LIKE MUSHROOM CLOUDS! If that doesn't prove it, well, then you are one of those hippies that wants to sell heroin to 6-year-olds. :eek:

Chronisseur
07-28-2007, 03:33 PM
Thats funny, Im thinking that weed has given me the patience to AVOID choking people on a daily basis!!! Wheres MY study?:wtf:

JD1stTimer
07-28-2007, 05:14 PM
LOL, cannabis seriously keeps my neurotransmitters in good balance... right now I'm looking for work so I'm not smoking, and I'm under a lot of stress, and my god I swear I'm ill without my doja. I actually felt detached from reality for a few hours the other day. Anyways, I think cops probably know a lot about crime... Howard Wooldridge said that in 18 years wearing the badge he NEVER ONCE responded to a call that was precipitated by marijuana.. more than 90% were alcohol related.

Chronisseur
07-28-2007, 07:17 PM
^^^ Gandalf: I usually see murder blamed on video games in the US. It's because you play grand theft auto, and it makes you have a complete bloodlust. I think if you you were to play GTA while smoking a blunt, who knows, you will almost certainly (The real statistics are 98%) destroy the western hemisphere with nuclear missiles, use the ashes to grow more pot, feed it to your three-headed dog, and then he will fly around the world eating the goiters from the fallout victims. Seriously, one of my friends did that after he got some second-hand cannabis smoke. TOTAL ARMAGEDDON LURKS IN THOSE TRICHOMES. Plus something else that completely validates my claim is the fact the the trichomes ARE SHAPED LIKE MUSHROOM CLOUDS! If that doesn't prove it, well, then you are one of those hippies that wants to sell heroin to 6-year-olds. :eek:

What? Please explain....what is your "claim"?

Chronisseur
07-28-2007, 07:28 PM
...maybe it's time for a puff my friend.;)
This is absolutely the most ridiculous shit I've read since I've been on this site!!! I'm sure you're good people, but seriously dude...:wtf:

Delta9 UK
07-29-2007, 09:04 AM
Vinegar Tits - LMAO Staurm that ones a keeper :thumbsup:

Heard on the radio yesterday though that loads of people were complaining about all these weed toking politicians - basically saying this isn't 'real-news' and its just BS so they don't have to talk about Iraq or other "less than stellar" topics ;)

The public aren't quite as dumb as the government might hope for.

Question:
How can you clear a THC drug in the UK for trials when you think it might cause mental health issues? Hmmm?

This is BullShit of the highest order, we know it - we just need to educate anyone else who is inclined to listen.

pass_the_dubbie
07-29-2007, 02:39 PM
I first seen this on a news broadcast the otherday, not sure which one it was. They were going through all the stories then they came to this one. The reporter literally read the headline out "new studies show cannabis fucks you up after one joint" and moved onto another story without stating sources or anything. Then on Friday I walk into the shop, my girlfriends at the counter and I look at the newspapers...i see the headline yet again with an article on it...It really is major bullshit but what im seeing now is more people are realising the benefits of cannabis. Even my dad was talking about the benefits when we were talking about how bad smoking cigarettes is....I think the u.k needs more positive press for cannabis instead of all this negative shit that isnt doing anybody any good. I hope a few decades later kids are being taught about the cannabis propaganda they shoved down are faces instead of what they are "learning" about it now.

Nocturnal Stoner
07-29-2007, 08:02 PM
well who controls the media?...the government.

JD1stTimer
07-30-2007, 09:17 AM
Chronisseur: My claim was that playing GTA and smoking a blunt at the same time would... well, yeah, what I already said. I was being deliberately ridiculous though, I was trying to exaggerate as much as the media does. Wow even in real life people think I'm serious when I'm joking. lol. And yeah, I do need a puff. :(

azure
07-30-2007, 02:34 PM
lol JD i seen the humour in it... thought it was pretty obvious myself

qdavid
07-30-2007, 03:59 PM
I posted about this in other threads but this thread is getting more play, so I guess I should post here. Our Brit friends may be unaware how this little story that originated there, has blown up into a major news story here. It's been on CNN, ABC, USA Today, and (of course) Fox. Even though a retraction/explanation was published, it didn't get any attention. The 40% increase chance of psychosis being a sensational story, does get the attention, no matter what is said later. Now the ladies on the "View" T.V. show even quoted it today. Even though it's totally untrue. My problem, is that millions of viewers see that and believe it, setting back medicinal use, or acceptance in general, back 50 years. The kid murdering his Dad is gone, but that 40% thing is gonna hang. I would think the AMA or NORML or some of the big organizations would get involved. What are they waiting for? It's not going just go away. It's just getting worse and worse.

Markass
07-30-2007, 05:20 PM
Cardiff University researcher Dr Stanley Zammit added: 'Even if cannabis does cause an increased risk of developing psychosis, most people who use cannabis will not develop such an illness.

uh oh, what happened to 40%? no offense, but people in england are fucking stupid when it comes to marijuana, even the scientists...

damage done by marijuana? WTF, so dying from lung cancer from cigarettes isn't as bad? alcohol poisoning isn't as bad? fuck these fucking fucks.

There's too many people in America that know the truth..especially the younger generation..we don't believe bullshit like this...shit, look at abovetheinfluence...your dog says don't get high please..

LIP
07-30-2007, 06:49 PM
Cardiff University researcher Dr Stanley Zammit added: 'Even if cannabis does cause an increased risk of developing psychosis, most people who use cannabis will not develop such an illness.

uh oh, what happened to 40%? no offense, but people in england are fucking stupid when it comes to marijuana, even the scientists...

damage done by marijuana? WTF, so dying from lung cancer from cigarettes isn't as bad? alcohol poisoning isn't as bad? fuck these fucking fucks.

There's too many people in America that know the truth..especially the younger generation..we don't believe bullshit like this...shit, look at abovetheinfluence...your dog says don't get high please..

Exactly. They make up these stupid figures that are complete lies, and then they cover themselves.

They keep saying cannabis is causing all these mental health illnesses, but it's not. It's the same chancers as everyone else. Virtually nil.

horror business
07-30-2007, 08:20 PM
Thats funny, Im thinking that weed has given me the patience to AVOID choking people on a daily basis!!! Wheres MY study?:wtf:

I agree.

Staurm
07-30-2007, 09:04 PM
Cardiff University researcher Dr Stanley Zammit added: 'Even if cannabis does cause an increased risk of developing psychosis, most people who use cannabis will not develop such an illness.

uh oh, what happened to 40%?

A 40% increase in already hardly anyone who develops psychosis still amounts to about the same, ie. few people will still be unaffected by mental health problems. The extra 40% on top of the non-toking psychos is still a small figure compared to the number of people who have used cannabis. The media is using this research and delivering it in a form that is deliberately misleading.

Staurm
07-31-2007, 11:38 AM
BBC NEWS | Health | Cannabis harm worse than tobacco (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6923642.stm)

Yeah yeah heard it. If it's so bad then just smoke it pure like I do!

But then there's still the 40% greater risk of going schitzo!

So.... 58.333333333333333333333% (140/240*100) of people who go psycho have smoked cannabis. What then causes the other 41.666666666666666666667% to go nuts then, fresh air?

:mad: I'm going to kill a fucking journalist one these days I tell ya!

"The research, published in the journal Thorax, found cannabis damaged the large airways in the lungs causing symptoms such as coughing and wheezing."

CANNABIS damages the airways they say... so it's nothing to do with the TOBACCO that is also in there I assume, or the fact there is not so much of a filter? Did they do any research on people who smoke it pure then? I guess not.

LIP
07-31-2007, 01:29 PM
BBC NEWS | Health | Cannabis harm worse than tobacco (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6923642.stm)

Yeah yeah heard it. If it's so bad then just smoke it pure like I do!

But then there's still the 40% greater risk of going schitzo!

So.... 58.333333333333333333333% (140/240*100) of people who go psycho have smoked cannabis. What then causes the other 41.666666666666666666667% to go nuts then, fresh air?

:mad: I'm going to kill a fucking journalist one these days I tell ya!

"The research, published in the journal Thorax, found cannabis damaged the large airways in the lungs causing symptoms such as coughing and wheezing."

CANNABIS damages the airways they say... so it's nothing to do with the TOBACCO that is also in there I assume, or the fact there is not so much of a filter? Did they do any research on people who smoke it pure then? I guess not.


The picture in that study didnt even look like real weed. It's a joke.

Staurm
07-31-2007, 03:31 PM
The picture in that study didnt even look like real weed. It's a joke.

Right enough, it looks like the kind of shit I bought once from a (so called) rastaman at the Notting Hill Carnival 10 years ago, in my younger naive toking days. That stuff didn't do my lungs any good, nor did it get me high in the slightest- it just gave me a headache.

:stoned::stoned::stoned::stoned::stoned::stoned::s toned:
If you smoke cannabis everyday, like I do, there is a significant chance (>>40%) that most of the people who know you will confuse your higher state of mind with insanity.

Markass
07-31-2007, 05:30 PM
when I quit smoking in january, (cigarettes) and was only smoking marijuana, I didn't cough in the morning, I didn't cough up crap, I had no sinus problems, and my sense of smell was much better...sadly I've slipped back into smoking them again, and I'm back to coughing in the mornings, and coughing up nasty green and black looking stuff..fuck them, I've done my own personal analysis, and marijuana is not near as bad for your respiratory system as is tobacco..

LIP
07-31-2007, 06:43 PM
I quit smoking cigs last year around christmas time. I was smoking 40 a day, sometimes more, spending £10 a day on em, and i ws coughing all the time. Since i quit and replaced tobacco with more weed im feeling great, i dont cough, my lungs feel bigger, stronger, i dont get pains in my chest, and all in all, i feel healthy. Very healthy. Life is good, im happy with everything, and it's weed that gives me that feeling. Being stoned is a great thing, weed itself is a great thing, and life to me is much better stoned. If i didnt smoke i'd be in prison. If i didnt smoke i'd be a cripple.

The ONLY negative quality of cannabis i've ever suffered from was short term memory loss, and that's not even a problem anymore because i'm no logner affected.

I've been smoking many many years and im fine, it's done nothing but get me high, like it's meant to.

I havnt killed anyone yet, i havnt gone crazy, i havnt dealt weed, it wasnt weed that made me try other drugs, none of the stuff that they make seem as though it's definatly going to happen has, because it's not true. It cant happen, and it wont. They're all about lies. Lies lies lies.

Who are they to tell me im wrong, when i and so many others are complete living proof cannabis is as good as harmless. How can they possibly expect any educated individual to beleive their contracdictory bullshit.

I'm a VERY angry man. VERY.

I swear to god, i could SNAP the next person to bad mouth weed. But i wont. Well, i might, but not because weed has made me violent, because i want to, and they deserve it.

Weed cant stick up for itself in a fight, people insult it and US, and we should start doing something about it. We're the ones who are educated, we know the truth. People who think they are educated are infact brainwashed morons. Educated my ass, educated with utter lies.

Staurm
08-01-2007, 01:42 PM
Hear Hear. I agree we should stand up for our rights, we need some sort of a campaign, something to make our voices heard and something to at least start making cannabis discrimination recognised and validated by more people. At the moment it is something that most people, even perhaps those who smoke it, donot give credence to. I was thinking of writing an article or something and getting it published somewhere, I just don't have time at the moment to spend on it.

I really feel that Gordon Brown is simply using this to gain popularity for the forthcoming election, and to distance himself from Tony Blair's appalling reputation. It's the only thing that makes sense, otherwise it really is a complete waste of time. Does he really want to send people to prison for up to 5 years for possession? The prison service is already suffering, as it stands there are people currently in prison who have served the mimimum stretch for petty crime, and they cannot have their sentence reviewed because there are no resources to handle it so they are stuck inside with no maximum time set. What the fuck do we need to send people to prison for smoking weed for?

I will NOT be branded a criminal by these people. If I want to smoke hash then I will smoke it, fuck them.