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tschmidty32
07-26-2007, 04:00 PM
This was kind of a while ago and when i had to quit smokin pot because of my job obligation (no more obligation so i'm tokin again :rastasmoke:) but back in spring i was enrolled in a college level speech class while in my senior year in high school...it's a college course but taken when you're in high school to get credits and watnot...anyways at the end we had to give a persuasion speech and i decided to do mine on marijuana decriminalization...at first she was going to let me do it, but then at the last minute after i had already written the entire 10 minute speech (it was so fuckign kick ass) she changes her mind and says it's innappropriate...we fought it to the principal and they still wouldn't let me do it even tho it was a college class...i ended up having to throw together an entire new speech and give it on my last day of high school ever while hung over as shit (hehe)...anybody else think that's fucking bullshit that all my research and hardwork put into my speech was rejected because of biased personal views...i was easilly one of the best speakers in the class but ended up getting a C+ for a final grade...what do ya'll think?

psteve
07-26-2007, 04:03 PM
Lawsuit.

bluntblaze
07-26-2007, 04:06 PM
lol

WidespreadJazz420
07-26-2007, 04:15 PM
thats some bullshit man

twoguysupnorth
07-26-2007, 04:15 PM
that sucks, post it here.

king of the world
07-26-2007, 04:19 PM
well the fear is since your such a good speaker, you could convince the whole class into smoking weed. although talking about how it should be decriminalized is not so inapropriate.

4gan2ja0
07-26-2007, 04:21 PM
exactly, its cause theyre afraid that youll be right and that theyll realize that the laws are bullshit... the school doesnt want any free-thinkers now do they?

Storm Crow
07-26-2007, 06:15 PM
You just got the wrong teacher- we had students do a pro/con debate on legalization (sadly, I didn't get picked for that topic:( ) Keep the speech, refine it this summer and take the class ( or similar class) with a different prof! Go for it! - Granny:hippy:

bhouncy
07-26-2007, 06:23 PM
I would have just done the speech. Fuck um.

Jizzle Blizzle420
07-26-2007, 06:26 PM
If they would of allowed you to give that speech it would of shown that they failed at brainwashing you. And we cant have that.

tschmidty32
07-27-2007, 07:41 PM
yeah it probably didn't help that this teacher just so happened to be the head of an after school group called SADD (students against destructive decisions)...god what a stupid biased cunt...I actually saw her over the summer in my car on the way to a party and I yelled out the window, "we're goin to get fucked up!" It was hilarious.

Blitzed
07-27-2007, 07:46 PM
Can you post the speach, Id like to read it.

LIP
07-27-2007, 07:57 PM
If a teacher did that to me i'd just walk out and not go back for the rest of the day. I actually used to do that for about a year, and then i just quit completely.

couch-potato
07-27-2007, 08:08 PM
Care to post the speech? I'd love to read it.

4twentE
07-27-2007, 08:25 PM
plea the 5th or the 1st or whichever is the free speech amendment.

and post the speech here too.

Canuckofithaca
07-27-2007, 08:29 PM
1st, 5th is the one where you cant incriminate yourself

jaGerbom
07-27-2007, 08:46 PM
In my speech class i gave a speech on medical marijuana and legalizing. Both i feel changed a lot of peoples thoughts on the subject and i was pretty happy that my teacher let me do it.

EDIT: I tried looking through my school files for the speeches but i just realized i already deleted everything from last year. I also burned all of my papers from the year too haha.

4twentE
07-27-2007, 08:57 PM
^^ Whatchyou know 'bout the US constitution? You're Canadian. Jus' playin'. :D

Canuckofithaca
07-27-2007, 09:46 PM
Dave Chappelle taught me that one

4gan2ja0
07-27-2007, 09:52 PM
what doesnt dave chapelle teach?

ghosty
07-27-2007, 11:59 PM
Dave Chapelle... about drugs.:thumbsup::jointsmile:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSsCzfyTrTQ

Anubis10012007
07-28-2007, 08:39 AM
Your first amendment right to free speech was violated. How dare they say it is inappropriate!! Settling for a C+ is not good either. I hate Cs. I would have fought this all the way up to the Supreme Court if I could just to make a point.

The teachers could have learned something from that speech. I did something about drug legalization in college and they didn't have a problem with it.

I think that if you are openly promoting the USE of weed, they could raise an honest rejection and get away with it easily. But according to what you wrote, you were merely talking about its decriminalization...not advocation. There is a difference. I am against alcohol prohibition, but I hate alcohol and don't drink. So you can have a huge dislike of the actual substance, but support the regulation and supply of it because the negative effects of prohibition, as history has shown us, have been clearly shown.

They can also have sex education in schools, sports, and music classes, but we are not allowed to talk about a natural plant that grows freely and has been used for thousands of years? Thats the same thing as saying the sun gives cancer and so we should hate and fear it and make it illegal to talk about it. Their logic would be "the sun is bad because it gives you cancer. It gives you cancer because it is bad...period".

One thing that evil fears most is an open mind :)

LIP
07-28-2007, 12:40 PM
I love watching chapelle

tschmidty32
08-03-2007, 07:46 PM
Yo sorry everybody i havent' checked out this site in forever so i haven't posted the speech yet...here it is, but all it is is an outline...you should be able to get the general idea and how kick ass it was just by reading the outline....read, enjoy! :rastasmoke:




Tyler Schmidt
CAPP Speech
May 22, 2007

General Purpose Statement: To persuade the class through my speech.
Exact Purpose Statement: To persuade the class that decriminalizing cannabis would be beneficial to society.

Introduction:

I. Hemp is most versatile plant known to man
A. Chemical free paper
1. More durable
2. More environmentally safe
B. Medicine
1. "Panaceas" or "cure-all" medicine
2. Multiple Sclerosis
3. Cancer
4. Aids
5. Glaucoma
6. Depression
7. Asthma
8. Other severe pains
C. Unfortuneately, U.S. legally doesn't allow the production of cannabis hemp
D. I believe cannabis hemp should be decriminalized in the U.S.
1. Facts about marijuana smoking reveal that it's relatively harmless
2. Decrease drug-related crimes/financial effects
3. Decrease in drug usage by minors

Body:

I. First, health effects of cannabis usage
A. Study in 1997 that was published in American Journal of Public Health
1. Over 10 years, contained over 65,000 men and women
2. Some never used, some did sometimes, others daily
3. No difference in the death rate
4. Conversely, mortality rates of cannabis users was lower than that of cigarette smokers and alcohol cosumers, both legal substances.
5. 3rd study done that shows cannabis poses few health risks
B. This study and others show...
1. Some risk with smoking in general
2. Option of the individual of whether or not they want to smoke
3. Minimal health risks compared to other forms of smoking, govt. should not be able to control what individual puts into his or her own body.
C. Tobacco, a legal substance, contains nicotine
1. Physically addictive
2. Produces many harmful carcenogens
D. Cannabis, contains no nicotine
1. Contains no physically addictive substances
E. The active chemical in the cannabis plant, THC, acts as bronchial dialator
1. beneficial to asthma patients
2. Acts as cough drop, aids in clearance of smoke and dirt from lungs
3. Nicotine acts opposite ways, bunches up lungs
F. Doesn't it cause brain damage?
1. No study every completed to prove cell damage, stupidity, or mental impairment
2. This doesn't say it can't be abused
G. But, what can't be abused?
1. Internet
2. Alcohol, Caffine, Cigarettes
3. McDonalds
H. So safe, absolutely impossible to overdose on cannabis use.
1. According to quote found at cannabis.com from a DEA Judge, "Marijuana is the safest therapeutically active substance known to mankind."
II. The U.S. government forgoes tremendous profit opportunities as well as increases crime and public safety risks by keeping cannabis an illegal substance.
A. NORML, costs taxpayers over $10 billion to currently enforce cannabis laws
1. NORML also states government could profit anywhere from $2.2-$6.4 billion a year
2. Positive swing in revenue of up to $16.4 billion
B. Focus on link between crime and drug usage, to solve we must focus on why
1. If someone wanted to buy some marijuana for personal use...no legal way of doing so
2. Under the table, go through someone, who goes through someone, who goes through someone.
3. None of these transactions would be considered legal.
4. If one group steals from another, the group can't go to the police because the cannabis itself is illegal
5. Usually result in crime violence and murders
6. Underground black markets profit off of governments stubburness on marijuana.
7. Billions of dollars a year are put into black market organizations for marijuana alone, no other way to get it.
C. Drug related crime revolving around marijuana are not due to users, but law itself
1. Government decriminalized it, and regulate it, money would not go to crime, but to the defecit.
D. Taxpayers spend between 7.5-10 billion a year to prosecute individuals for cannabis violations
1. 90% of these convictions, simple possession convictions, nothing else wrong
E. 60,000 individuals in jail for cannabis related offenses
1. FBI, more amercians arrested for 5th common criminal offense, marijuana offenses, than total number of arrests for violent crimes combined including: assault, murder, robbery, and rape.
2. If legalized, focus on murderers and rapists, rather than petty cannabis convictions.
F. Since 1991, use among adults has remained steady
1. While number of arrests has increased
2. At same time number of heroin and cocaine arrests have fallen by 30%
3. Where are countries priorities?
G. Decriminalization will decrease crime and increase government profits.
III. Cannabis is often referred to as the "Gateway Drug." There are many reasons as to why it is not.
A. There are over 40 million people nationwide who have used cannabis for a period in their life according to cannabis.com
1. Coincidence that there are not 10's of millions of herion users...
B. Reverse tolerance
1. Longer a person has been smoking, less they need
2. don't get "bored" and look for harder drugs
3. Keeps users from doing harder drugs
C. Another Gateway theory says, marijuana is the source of the drug subculture and leads to other drugs through that culture.
1. Marijuana does not create the drug subculture, the drug subculture uses marijuana
2. There are many marijuana users who are not a part of the subculture
D. Could reduce use of illicit drugs
1. Casual user has to go to dealers that probably deal with other harder drugs, might use them
2. This means it is the laws themselves rather than user's fault
3. If legal, the drug markets would be separated
E. Biggest fear of legalization is that everybody would start using it
1. Proven that legalization actually creates a decrease in usage.
2. Study by British Journal of Phsyciatry, showed that 33% Americans 12 and older have tried.
3. However, in the Netherlands, legal, only 16% have tried
4. Less than half
F. In US, Cannabis is listed among the same level as...
1. Cocaine, heroin, opium, crystal meth, LSD, crack, acid, exctasy, and many other hard drugs.
2. Netherlands however, listed with drugs such as alcohol and tobacco.
G. U.S. is basically telling cannabis users they are no different from someone who uses cocaine.
1. If U.S. separated cannabis from hard drugs, it would result in decrease in use of hard drugs

Conclusion:

I. Cannabis is most misunderstood plant on planet
A. Facts prove cannabis to be practically harmless
1. Rather tell my child the truth and let them make a mature decision when reach appropriate age.
B. U.S. wasting taxpayer dollars
1. Should be spent on more serious convictions
2. Letting potential huge profit of government regulation slip away
C. Wrongly labeling cannabis users as criminals
1. Most cannabis users are people who pay taxes, raise families, and are otherwise law abiding citizens.
2. Should not be labled as criminals to use marijuana responsibly in privacy of their own homes.
D. It's apparant that prohibition is worst action against a drug a government can take.
1. I encourage you to open mind to a new option
2. An option without lies forced upon you through dare and every other lie poured on to you since we were little kids.
E. Gotten somewhere in over 70 years of prohibition.
F. I leave you with a quote from President Jimmy Carter
1. "Penalties against drug use should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself. Nowhere is this more clear than in the laws against the possession of marijuana in private for personal use."

Blitzed
08-03-2007, 07:56 PM
Man, sounds like you put alot of time into it, still wish I could read the whole thing!

twoguysupnorth
08-03-2007, 10:25 PM
i like G and the rest too, looks like a great outline. keep your paper and post it somewheres.

BabyFacedAbortion
08-03-2007, 10:49 PM
yeah it probably didn't help that this teacher just so happened to be the head of an after school group called SADD (students against destructive decisions)...god what a stupid biased cunt...I actually saw her over the summer in my car on the way to a party and I yelled out the window, "we're goin to get fucked up!" It was hilarious.


We have SADD at my school too..extremely LAME.

your outline looks kick ass!

Purple Banana
08-03-2007, 10:53 PM
Actually, cocaine is a Schedule II substance, along with morphine and injectable methamphetamines...

Ironically Cocaine and Morphine, which DO have legit (albeit questionable) medical uses, they're 100% more likely to kill you of an overdose/chronic use than Cannabis.