Cactus

[Delta9]

has anyone ever ingested trichchereus pachanoi?

If you have would you ever do it again?
Did the cactus make you sick?

[SomeDude]

Yes, yes, and yes. I am usually naseous for a while, sometimes to the point of vomiting. Once I vomited violently, but I tripped really hard afterwards. I usually consume a tea(a very slimy tea) made from the dried, peeled, green flesh.

[Delta9]

So is ingestion of trichocereus pachanoi worth all the trouble of preparation, nausea, and side effects for the mescaline?

And is trichcereus pachanoi legal to posses?

[Delta9]

Though by an organic solubility table in the handbook of chemistry and physics it shows that mescaline is not soluble in petroleum ether. It may therefore be possible to treat the cactus with distilled naptha first, which, might dissolve some of the other alkaloids and terpines in the plant material. The mescaline is soluble in alcohol so it might be possible to extract the mecsaline from the treated plant material with alcohol. The only other compound I have been able to locate in trichocereus pachanoi is analonidine. I have not been able to find any data on analonidine at this point. Analonidine is present in lophophora williamsii as well so it make contribute to the effects or the chemical mixture in peyote and pedro whether good or bad.

[Delta9]

P.S. if there is a flame or spark within a 50 ft. radius of naptha the fumes will catch fire and could cause a violent firey explosion. Be wary of the beast. 666.

[Delta9]

Another interesting cactus species I would like to obtain (not to eat it might be poisonous) that contains many alkaloids including mescaline is pterocereus gaumeri. In fact I would not even eat San Pedro for the record. Aren't those babies beautyful.

[Delta9]

Some really interesting isoquinolines have been found in pterocereus gaumeri such as the glucotetrahydroisoquinoline 'pterocereine'. Other alkaloids reported in this species are:
6,7-dimethoxy-5-hydroxy-1-hydroxymethyl-2-methyl-THIQ
6,7-dimethoxy-5-hydroxy-1-hydroxymethyl-2-methyl-THIQ-N-oxide
6,7-dimethoxy-5-glucocyloxy-1-hydroxymethyl-2-methyl-THIQ
3,4-dimethoxy-PEA
3,5-dimethoxy-4-hydroxy-PEA
3,4,5-trimethoxy-PEA (mescaline)

Ohhh tasty.

[Delta9]

Of course the DEA considers all psychoactive substances poison.
Stupid feds.

[Delta9]

Or the lovely Dolichothele longimamma. tetrahydroisoquinoline and it's derivatives some of my favorite compounds. Such beautiful flowers.

[Delta9]

Some alkaloids found in Dolichothele longimamma:

N-methyl-beta-hydroxy-4-methoxy-beta-phenethylamine (longimammine).
6-hydroxy-2-methyl-1,2,3,4-tetrahydroisoquinoline (longimammosine).
8-hydroxy-2-methyl-1,2,3,4-tetrahydroisoquinoline (longimammidine).
6-methoxy-1,2,3,4-tetrahydroisoquinoline (longimammtine).
4,8-dihydroxy-2-methyl-1,2,3,4-tetrahydroisoquinoline (longimammamine).
and; (-)-normacromerine
and; (+,-)synephrine

I wonder what this mixture would do to your brain.

[Delta9]

Some slang terms that the Texans use for Peyote:
Devils Root (Note the term "devil" which missionaries affiliated with Native Americans religion and made it illegal for all Non-Native Americans to consume or posses).
Diabolic Root (note Diabolic)
Dry Whiskey (as if wet whisky isen't bad enough for all those drunk cowboys. ye ha!)
Dumpling cactus
Indian Dope (not the word dope)
Moon
bad seed (yea bad)
Raiz diabolica.

[Delta9]

See thats the way the White Man did it. He sold the indian whisky and when they got drunk and became rowdy the Missionaries said: "see what heathens they are".
P.S. I'm white.

[Delta9]

And thats why I'm a devil.
And thats why I'll burn in hell.

[Not Enough Herb]

man those long ass cacctus name r to hard to read right now lol

so how does this cactus stuff work and how do u do it and what is the buzz like???/

later

[Delta9]

Theres traces of mescaline in some cactus aside from peyote. Mescaline is not really a buzz it's more like taking LSD. Most of the cactus species, however, have such a small amount of mescaline that you would have to eat alot of cactus to feel any kind of effects. And for most species like pterocereus gaumeri if you ate enough cactus for a adequate dosage of mescaline you would probably overdose and get really sick or worse due to the presence of other alkaloids and terpenes.
trichocereus pachanoi is a common landscape cactus in southern united states and contains about 0.1% mescaline so if you ate a decent quantity of cactus (probably about 6-12 inches) you would likely feel mild hallucinogenic effects. There many different proposed methods of preparation on the internet but my guess is that eating a cactus is probably not to tasty.

[Delta9]

San Pedro is a Peruvian cactus that grows high in the Andes and has been used in folk medicine by the native people and has been consumed in large quantities by humans so if you have the right species you could probably eat it without killing yourself. I remember my Spanish professor at Junior College She was from Peru, and live in Lima.
So much I learned about South American Culture from her. She told me when she would go to high elevations in the Andes they would take coca leave and make tea which would keep them from losing consciousness at the altitudes. So San Pedro has been was an importand ingredient in some South American hallucinogenic drinks like "cimora".

[Delta9]

Peyote and other hallucinogenic cactus can make you very ill if you don't eat the right amount and the Native Americans had developed their drinks over generations and generations. So thats why you need to be careful cause you dont want to have a bad trip and end up in the emergency room.

[Delta9]

See Marijuana is not a fucking narcotic like the government is trying to lable it as. It stimulates the central nervous system and depresses your mind at the same time. Plus theres so many other compounds in marijuanna aside from THC. I would lable marijuana as an intoxicant. Thats one of the down falls of chronic weed smoking is that it may fuck up your nervous system.

[Delta9]

"They dedicate their lives
to running all of his
he tries to please them all
this bitter man he is
throughout his life the same
he's battled constantly
this fight we cannot win
a tired man they see...
the old man the prepares
to die regretfully
that old man is me."

[Delta9]

ah shit. I got it backwards.
Marijuana depress you nervous system but stimulates your mind. Stupid delta9!

Okay I got it marijuana depresses your central nervous system but stimulates your mind.
See stimulates your mind?
but it slows down you nerve impulses.

[Delta9]

Don't forget about your liver. Stupid liver!
The liver breaks down blood toxins so the liver is what drug usage is going to affect.
Especially amphetamines and heroin they'll definitly do the job on the liver.
Not to mention alcohol, owee, my liver hurts.

[Delta9]

Get this man to a hospital!
Quick!
Get him down he's convulsing!
Get him down now!
100-cc of adrenaline stat!

[Delta9]

False alarm. Just a bit too much GHB.

[Not Enough Herb]

eep :|

[Delta9]

And we will battle!
Cling! Cling! Clang!

[Delta9]

And we gonna burn.
Danny Neunnan style.

[Delta9]

hey pass the joint to Rodney and Chevy.

[Climbing High]

delta9...
i'm sorry man but you got way to much fuckin time on your hands.
peace

[Delta9]

yea, your right.
But so does someone who sits around and gets high all day.