Those 5-hour-window syrups/drinks, you're 100% sure they can't be tested for???

[getntested]

I know I asked this the other day, but just want to one more time to make ABSOLUTE sure this info is correct.

I ask because we have a test tomorrow, and we are testing negative on the home kits (have passed two at-home tests during the middle of the day with no tampering or dillution, just regular urine) however we FAILED one early in the morning in the first urine... this showed me that there is at least enough toxin still there that we COULD fail, and we can't take that chance. And substitution is not an option, unfortunately.

So, to be 'better safe than sorry' we're gonna go ahead and use the Duz'Z It test-day syrup that we purchased. I've used Vale Detox syrup successfully in the past, though haven't used this company's before.


These 5-hour-window syrups (Duz'Z It, Vale Detox, etc) absolutely 110% CAN NOT be tested for or create a contaminated result, correct? I know that they can test for Goldenseal now (and do) and so I figure/worry this could be in the same vein (ie: that they simply test for some chemicals/elements that they know are in these test day syrups/drinks, and therefore prove you used one)...

has anyone ever failed due to these syrups coming up as a 'masking agent'. Or is it 100% safe to use them, they're just not 100% effective?

Sorry to be so paranoid, but D-day is tomorrow, and it would KILL ME to think we got clean enough to pass a test alone, but then failed due to "contamination" or "masking agent" because of the Duz'Z It.

ANY advice/info/reassurance would be most appreciated! Thanks in advance!

[SlyTX]

I dont understand why exactly your girlfriend is afraid of substituting? When I took my drug test it was the easiest thing I had ever done. I had the mini bottle of clean pee in my underpants snuggly, keeping it warm, and then they let me into a bathroom all by myself where I shut and locked the door, and gave me 4 minutes to pee. Batta bing batta boom, it was surpirsingly easy. Theres no reason to be nervous, and the only way they would find out is if they are watching you pee, which youve already stated they aernt gonna do it. As this girls man, I order you to build up her confidence, especially if this is that important! Kidding...

All that aside, I have never heard of these 'syrups' that your speaking of. I dont know whats in them or how they work. Are you sure it was even the syrup product that attributed to your success the first time? Did you take any others actions? I think I read it makes your pee glow almost and look unnatural, so you may want to think twice about using that especially if your passing the at home tests. Here is what I recommend. Either suck it up, overcome FEAR and substitute the pee so you KNOW you will pass, and I know she knows that that is the most sure way of passing this test, or take the chance and go in with your own pee, WITHOUT taking the syrup. I think using your own pee with your amount of preperation and lack of smoking would be the best way if your gonna use your own pee, because that syrup is an unfamiliar product your using right now and you are unaware of what results it might give. That is just my opinion, wait and see what the more experienced users have to say about it.

[Blindman0v0]

If you've alraedy been basicallily pissing clean.Just drink lots of water before the UA and ppe a couple times before then when you go in make sure and take the middle of the stream.
I've been experimenting with cranberry juice testing with my home test kits.So far it looks like the rumours are true that it helps slow down the absorption of thc in the liver

[getntested]

I appreciate all of the advice, and I do agree with your points, SlyTX, no doubt. She just refuses to substitute. *shrugs* What can ya do?

We both used the Vale Detox syrup/drink a few years ago. I stopped smoking for about a week, she for about 2 weeks, then we followed all of their instructions (basically a 72 hour window where you can't use and have to avoid certain things like vinegar, caffeine, alcohol, etc) and then did as it said on test day.

It DOES make your urine super neon yellow, there's no doubt about that, hence our paranoia. However, so do a lot of vitamins and even power drinks these days. Basically all these drinks are, I believe, is the dillution method in a bottle. You're guzzling 30-40oz of liquids, packed with vitamins and creatine and stuff, so it's dropping your THC-levels and then building the natural substances in your pee back up. We're 2 for 2 with Vales, and since she's small and went 2 weeks without smoking then maybe she passed 'naturally', but I am 99% sure Vales did it for me, as I was a VERY heavy and long-term user, and only had 1 week off before my test. Both passed, both got the job. I also first learned about Vales from a sports player on a bigtime college football team, who used it to pass NCAA tests (or so he claimed), which spoke volumes to me.

The Duz'Z It (which is the company we also bought the 15-day cleaning kit from, whether or not that had any effect is still up in the air, however, she is testing clean after having toxin levels about as high as one can) pitch is that it is 100% undetectable, and although a lot of people bash that company, they HAVE been around a long time, and have given me some good info. I have to think the two drinks are the same gig, as they look similar, claim to do the same thing, and have very similar instructions.

I'm just not confident with going in with her urine alone, and she's not willing to substitute. Yes, it means she may have a neon yellow sample, but we both did those two times and nothing came of it. Worst case scenario you say you take a lot of vitamins or had a power drink that morning before you jogged or something. Personally, I don't think they even ask you about it, as they didn't us. But it's a lot easier to explain away why your urine is bright yellow and/or full of vitamins and stuff, than it is to explain to this kind of employer why they found trace amounts of THC in your sample. *shrugs again*

I guess we'll be the donkey with the Duz'Z It then. :/ I'll report back, although her passing will definitely NOT be a testament that Duz'Z It works, but rather that it truly is undetectable.

FBR - who's given me some GREAT advice here, and does truly seem to be an expert - said they simply cannot test for these drinks on another thread. So I'm thinking he knows or has experience. I hope so anyhow! heh

Thanks for taking the time to write all that, SlyTX, just talking about it makes us feel better.

Turns out test may be tomorrow instead of today, I'll let ya know. *crosses fingers*

[SlyTX]

No Problem GetnTested. Fakeboobsrule is definitly the brain of this forum, he really knows whats up about drug tests, I would trust his info more than anyone elses. Hopefully the time its been since yall have smoked and the prep youve taken, which seems like a hell of a lot, is enough to pass the test. If I read it right you said your taking the test today, so let us know how it went.

[getntested]

The form (that was supposed to be here yesterday) didn't come today, so I assume the test will be tomorrow. I'll be sure to come back and let you know how it goes.

At her toxin levels (low enough that she can pass a mid-day at home test) I am not very concerned about her failing, especially with the drink. Been nice to be able to be here talking about it all, has made us MUCH more comfortable with all this.

[trippy bong smoke]

Just a heads up... watch out for that Vale Detox drink, that stuff is very unreliable, it has only worked 1 out of 3 times for me so I would steer clear from that stuff.:thumbsup:

my friend Dave's friend used Vale and he failed his drug test. =[ ANy Vale products are basically useless.

[SlyTX]

So man, got the results in yet?

[getntested]

Sorry I haven't posted here in a while, we're in the process of moving and it has been a CRAZY week!! :/

Things seemed to go very well for her on test day. Used the Duz'Z It syrup/drink and unlike the Vale Detox we've used in the past this one did not make her urine super artificial neon yellow looking, which was a big relief!! Standard urinalysis, no supervision, things seemed to have gone well.... (this was on friday)

They told us they were sending it to the lab and that they'd have results by Tuesday, so since Wednesday has now gone by without a call I have to think she passed! :thumbsup:

Honestly, after 3+ weeks not smoking and taking the cleanser pills and drinking fluids, etc, she was probably clean enough (or had toxin levels low enough) to just have a few glasses of water that morning, urinate a few times, and go and pass.... but the drink made us both feel confident.

Thanks for asking, man, and thanks to everyone for ALL of the help! I can't even tell you how much speaking with you guys helped us, it was a HUGE reassurance and stress relief for both of us... so thank you all!!! :D

I'll be sure to pop in here now and then once we get relocated, as you all here on this forum have really earned my admiration and respect, so I definitely plan on staying part of it. Thanks again, and best of luck to you!

[snowblind]

i am glad i dont have to go through that shit in the uk, it is gettin more common over here though. bastards. i really dont get why you can be fired for something you do in your own time.