Bush logic

[psychocat]

In my street lives a guy who has prior convictions for aggravated burglary.
This man is a potential threat to me and my home even though he wants nothing to do with me.
I fear he may attemt to burgle my home .
Based on this fear I choose to blow his fucking thieving brains out.
By Bush's logic even if it was found that the guy was no real threat I would still be justified in wasting him.
In reality if I did shoot the burglar I would most likely find myself with a new residence and lots of time to think! All at the care of the state....



I posted this earlier and I was wondering if anyone knows of someone they would like to see Bush's logic used on ??.
Alternatively you could also suggest other examples that fit the criteria???

[Euphoric]

maybe its time to consider a new home? :)

[BOgart.bitch]

is this a hypothetical situation or real life? i think you should invite him over and THEN waste him. make sure he steps inside your house.. but invite him in a way that its not clear what you are doing.. or something. *shrugs* i just remember watching an episode of the simpsons where homer invited ned into his house and got to hurt him because ned came into his home.. OR SOMETHING. i have no idea.

[az666]

no it only works if u dont invite them in...if they just walk in then u can do what u want...within reason i guess...(according to the sompsons)

[psychocat]

Yes it is purely hypothetical.

The point is if I thought like Bush then I would be exonerated from blame because the guy could be seen as "a potential threat" and my actions would be seen as a "pre-emptive strike" for the good of mankind.
Bush's logic.

It's about the use of logic not so much the burglar .

[BOgart.bitch]

i caught the sarcastic shot at bush. your analogy was pretty much on the money ;] i was just thinking.. it would suck to live that close to a burglar.. burgerler.erlewhatever.

[Mello.as.Hello]

He seems to think that abuse of power is justified simply because he's the president. How's that for bush logic? And you know what? Nobody's ever gonna say anything to change it. Wether we like it or not, we missed our chance to do something about Bush and his self-serving logic.

I'm moving to Vancouver.

[BOgart.bitch]

he's just another suferer of the upper class white male inflated ego (what 80% of our entire government is made of).. ah.. it sucks.

[koshea]

it depends, its it known world wide that the "burgler" kills people at will all the time along with raping them? because if so i say shoot him

america was as justifyed as can bee to go into iraq, you can fight me on it and say everything but the only accuasations are from idiotic people knowing half the story

[psychocat]

it depends, its it known world wide that the "burgler" kills people at will all the time along with raping them? because if so i say shoot him

america was as justifyed as can bee to go into iraq, you can fight me on it and say everything but the only accuasations are from idiotic people knowing half the story

You should feel right at home with them then!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3653223.stm

More Bush logic

It's not our fault if we kill civilians because they could well be terrorists.
They started it anyway,,
So the CIA should all be killed for consorting with terrorists because they were the ones who trained the Taliban in the first place ,

http://expage.com/notowar5b

hold on though because if we did that then ,,
We would have to kill everyone who has worked for the last 4 presidents of the united states , Pinochet was backed by the US , Saddam was helped to power by the US.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/feb1999/pino-f11.shtml
http://ciponline.org/nationalsecurity/staff/nationalsecurity.htm
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/history/husseinindex.htm

Shit man if we carry on like this every fucker will be dead , the first we would have to eliminate of course would be Bush and his family.

http://georgewalkerbush.net/bush-nazilinkconfirmed.htm

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
â?? President Theodore Roosevelt

[koshea]

first of all, killing an innocent citizen ad/or firing at a civilian vehicle, especially an ambulance, is a court-marshallable act. believe me, no soldier wants to be court marshalled. also, if you wernt such an idiot, youd realize that among all the quotes and other bad media, youd realize the only proof it was an american is the "view of a silhouette" from a woman in labor, in a moving ambulance. first off, since when do ambulances have windows in the back? and second off, im sure a woman in labor wouldnt be able to concentrate too much on studying a figure...but hey, the media publishes it, she gets on TV, and bashes america with more false evidence, its the cool thing to do now adays why not?

also, its funny how you used mainly pacifistic sites for your arguements in which you know there is going to be exaggerated news on the events in the middle east

also, i didnt know that your grandfather being an archetect makes you a nazi?

he isnt german
hes republican
thats what the little elephant and the R stand for
nazi starts with a "n" and has a swastica
but your idiotic hatered and bashing is funny to me

[braindead]

america was as justifyed as can bee to go into iraq, you can fight me on it and say everything but the only accuasations are from idiotic people knowing half the story


I bet you are american. The bad spelling. The kill everyone mentality. What hick state are you from boy? America invaded iraq to force their garbage consumer culture on them and steal their oil. It has nothing to do with "freedom" or WMD, never did. There were no terrorists in iraq 4 years ago, now there are. Conclusion: america creates terrorism, saddam fought it.

[koshea]

LOL OMG YOU ARE A DUMB MOTHER FUCKER


saddam fought terrorism?

HE FUCKING TERRORIZED HIS OWN PEOPLE (or is rape and murder not terrorizing)



holy shit, i needed a laugh

[GHoSToKeR]

Iraq is to America what Poland was to Nazi Germany......

[Kramerica]

Dont you guys worry, OJ Simpson will find the weapons of mass destruction while he's out finding the real killer....

[FRANKFRANKFRANK]

Iraq is to America what Poland was to Nazi Germany......


I don't hate Bush or anything, but if I ever met the guy I'd like to set him on fire...

[poorman3]

Iraq is to America what Poland was to Nazi Germany......


think what you want man but, were not hiding underground in a bunker commiting suicide. lol. i liked your cartoon. did you like my editing? lol.

[psychocat]

also, i didnt know that your grandfather being an archetect makes you a nazi?

he isnt german
hes republican
thats what the little elephant and the R stand for
nazi starts with a "n" and has a swastica
but your idiotic hatered and bashing is funny to me

The nazi link is one relating to the business practices of the bush family and the lies and coverups that were employed to allow them to escape prosecution.Are you saying it's all lies??

The other things you obviously choose to just ignore (Taliban Saddam Pinochet CIA ) no answer, or just so brainwashed all sign of intelligent thought has gone down the plughole.

Hatred for what may I ask ??
I find Bush so funny .
I like the fact that you seem to feel aggrieved that someone doesn't agree with you , you're almost as funny as Bush.

You know the funniest thing???

ME a pacifist LMFAO.
ME??
Are you sure ????
Wish you were here so I could prove you wrong just for the fun of it, but it would cost me my martial arts teaching licence , I believe that violence breeds violence but I still enjoy a good fair fight.

PS Explain to me how killing Iraqis is saving Iraqi lives ??
Whilst Saddam was in power the country of Iraq was certainly a lot more stable than it is now.

[thcbongman]

It all comes down to this piece of logic:

Stupid people are held less accountable.

[duppy man]

Yes it is purely hypothetical.

The point is if I thought like Bush then I would be exonerated from blame because the guy could be seen as "a potential threat" and my actions would be seen as a "pre-emptive strike" for the good of mankind.
Bush's logic.

It's about the use of logic not so much the burglar .

its like a law they have in scotland its called the conspiracy law if you conspire with a person or persons known or unknown to commit a crime you can be arrested without actually committing a crime just like the WOMD that were never found....its a strange fact that countries that can defend themselves can have as many weapons as they like without any fear of invasion :rolleyes:

[Mello.as.Hello]

It doesn't matter why we're killing, or why we did what and when. What matters is that people are dying, and there is no way to justify that. War is wrong, regardless of the reasons behind it.

[dreadhed]

You know Clinton was one of the most warring President, indescretely of course, in about 45 years (I could be a little off). So just go on believing what the proven left wing obviously biased media tells you instead of researching all points of information yourself. Alot of people are really good at that and then forming opinions without questioning. Does every one just forget all the wars Clinton engaged in "for" America, but thats ok because he got some head in the Oval Office and , that's where the focus needed to go, right???! If you think Sadam was not so bad then all I can say is too bad you did not live there so you could watch your mom and sister get raped while they shoved a hot poker up your ass. Sounds like a good time doesn't it? Don't get me wrong I am not a huge Bush fan, but I am tired of hearing all of these misinformed whiners crying about it. Move to a country like that and see what you think. Why do you think Iraqis would try to escape to America? When you have a month/s notice that you're going to be invaded it's not too hard to get rid of every thing. Did you know they DID find some wmds. Syrian gas bombs. Or do you not count that because it does not fit your agenda. They did not find stock piles is more accurate. It would not be too hard to give them to someone else, such as a close neighbor. All I can say is I'm glad he is out of power. Now they need to find Osama and kill his fucking ass on public TV for all of the world to see. Just one more question where was all of this crying when Clinton bomd Iraq?

[KronicKing]

in florida and most other states you can shoot the burgler IF and only if he presents an active threat or you see a weapon on his person(if u say i thought i saw a weapon you will be convited)the best thing to do is if he unarmed and you can overpower him restain him,in my eye killing is wrong no matter the situation of couse come my life or his i will kill the other but i would have to repent in some way(im not religous in the least other than some research i did on several denominations)your best bet is a new resident if that is not an option than just be wary of him and be sure your windows and doors are locked brb ill write more i g2g somewhere

[psychocat]

You know Clinton was one of the most warring President, indescretely of course, in about 45 years (I could be a little off). So just go on believing what the proven left wing obviously biased media tells you instead of researching all points of information yourself. Alot of people are really good at that and then forming opinions without questioning. Does every one just forget all the wars Clinton engaged in "for" America, but thats ok because he got some head in the Oval Office and , that's where the focus needed to go, right???! If you think Sadam was not so bad then all I can say is too bad you did not live there so you could watch your mom and sister get raped while they shoved a hot poker up your ass. Sounds like a good time doesn't it? Don't get me wrong I am not a huge Bush fan, but I am tired of hearing all of these misinformed whiners crying about it. Move to a country like that and see what you think. Why do you think Iraqis would try to escape to America? When you have a month/s notice that you're going to be invaded it's not too hard to get rid of every thing. Did you know they DID find some wmds. Syrian gas bombs. Or do you not count that because it does not fit your agenda. They did not find stock piles is more accurate. It would not be too hard to give them to someone else, such as a close neighbor. All I can say is I'm glad he is out of power. Now they need to find Osama and kill his fucking ass on public TV for all of the world to see. Just one more question where was all of this crying when Clinton bomd Iraq?

Moronic thinking leads to moronic decisions.
Another countries politics should be decided by the people of that country , the people of France and Britain and even the US have known civil war due to oppresive regimes, the people of Iraq could've been left to sort out their own shit.
But wait a minute wasn't a former US goverment instrumental in setting up Saddam in the first place
If it was about human rights how come the US isn't rattling it's sabres at China?? or Turkmenistan?? or even Rwanda?
Are you forgetting the fact that the US and Britain have both admitted that the intelligence about WMD was "flawed"?
So the focus should be on Clinton??
Why should Clinton be the only one to get it? Look back at post 1945 and you will find lots of incidences of the goverment of the USA using force to enable the US ideaology to be furthered.
Pinochet,Saddam,Osama and his Taliban were all aided and supported by the US , way back in 63 Saddam was in contact with the CIA , it was the betrayal of the people who wanted to topple Saddam after the Gulf War that has left an awful lot of Iraqis believing the US are liars.
The cronyism and the blatant abuse of power are shown in the awarding of contracts for the re-building of Iraq.
Now what were you saying??

PS Never assume anything , I do a lot of research to back up any claims I make so you can forget that tack right away.

[ermitonto]

If Myanmar had lots of oil, I bet Bush would be in a frenzy to do a "pre-emptive strike" on the military dictatorship there...for freedom and democracy though, of course. :rolleyes:

I can't wait to get out of this country (and move to Holland!)

[Mello.as.Hello]

You know Clinton was one of the most warring President, indescretely of course, in about 45 years (I could be a little off). So just go on believing what the proven left wing obviously biased media tells you instead of researching all points of information yourself. Alot of people are really good at that and then forming opinions without questioning. Does every one just forget all the wars Clinton engaged in "for" America, but thats ok because he got some head in the Oval Office and , that's where the focus needed to go, right???! If you think Sadam was not so bad then all I can say is too bad you did not live there so you could watch your mom and sister get raped while they shoved a hot poker up your ass. Sounds like a good time doesn't it? Don't get me wrong I am not a huge Bush fan, but I am tired of hearing all of these misinformed whiners crying about it. Move to a country like that and see what you think. Why do you think Iraqis would try to escape to America? When you have a month/s notice that you're going to be invaded it's not too hard to get rid of every thing. Did you know they DID find some wmds. Syrian gas bombs. Or do you not count that because it does not fit your agenda. They did not find stock piles is more accurate. It would not be too hard to give them to someone else, such as a close neighbor. All I can say is I'm glad he is out of power. Now they need to find Osama and kill his fucking ass on public TV for all of the world to see. Just one more question where was all of this crying when Clinton bomd Iraq?

The debate is not wether or not Saddam Hussein was bad for iraq, or should have been removed. The problem, the fucking BLARINGLY OBVIOUS problem is that we went into Iraq looking for WMD's, but we didn't find any. We were looking for Weapons of mass destruction, not Syrian gas bombs. Bush and his cabinet claimed Hussein was storing and producing weapons of mass destruction (possibly nuclear), and in posession of materials to do so. But we DIDN'T FIND ANY.

The bush family is not a legacy, they are a dictatorship. Regardless of the reasons, or the legality, "Dubya" always somehow mispronounces and babbles his way into Joe Bluecollar's heart, and gets away with WHATEVER THE FUCK HE WANTS. Nothing aggravates me more than ignorant, closed-minded people who believe Bush is great just because "He's a country boy"... who would never do something wrong, because... well... he's the president. And the president is always right. Unfortunately, Bush is a shitty president, who should not have invaded Iraq, and certainly not have been re-elected. And now we're stuck with him for 4 more years.

And before you say anything about "you haven't been there": I may not have lived in Iraq. But Lieutenant Daniel Almon Richards, of the United States Marine Corps, my best friend of 15 years, gave his LIFE for Bush's self-gratifying agenda. I have experienced FIRST HAND the consequences of one man's ego, and too much power, and I come to the same comclusion as everyone else:

WAR IS WRONG.

[GHoSToKeR]

It doesn't matter why we're killing, or why we did what and when. What matters is that people are dying, and there is no way to justify that. War is wrong, regardless of the reasons behind it.
Agreed. Sadly this is the one point that usually gets ignored

[dreadhed]

Moronic thinking leads to moronic decisions.
Another countries politics should be decided by the people of that country , the people of France and Britain and even the US have known civil war due to oppresive regimes, the people of Iraq could've been left to sort out their own shit.
But wait a minute wasn't a former US goverment instrumental in setting up Saddam in the first place
If it was about human rights how come the US isn't rattling it's sabres at China?? or Turkmenistan?? or even Rwanda?
Are you forgetting the fact that the US and Britain have both admitted that the intelligence about WMD was "flawed"?
So the focus should be on Clinton??
Why should Clinton be the only one to get it? Look back at post 1945 and you will find lots of incidences of the goverment of the USA using force to enable the US ideaology to be furthered.
Pinochet,Saddam,Osama and his Taliban were all aided and supported by the US , way back in 63 Saddam was in contact with the CIA , it was the. D betrayal of the people who wanted to topple Saddam after the Gulf War that has left an awful lot of Iraqis believing the US are liars.
The cronyism and the blatant abuse of power are shown in the awarding of contracts for the re-building of Iraq.
Now what were you saying??

PS Never assume anything , I do a lot of research to back up any claims I make so you can forget that tack right away.
Wow name calling thats how you get people to listem, & prove your worth talking to. US did support Osoama and they other. I did I not say I bindly follow what ever the Gov says. My question is where was all this crying when Clinton was out to war?
And how can sarin & mustard gas not be conserded WMD. They can kill thousands of poeple at once.
Well psyco your such a big man calling someone names online. Does it make you feel like a bigger person. I not closed to hearing other sides but you seem to be & thats to bad. Did I say Clinton should be the only one to get no, I guess you just assumeing liked you asked me not to. Oh well thats what I would expect from some acting immature.

[psychocat]

Your president is a moron in my eyes so I don't consider it name calling so much as speaking the truth , oh and he's an imbecile.

The title of the post should give a clue as to why Clinton isn't the man of the moment , would you like to start a thread entitled Clinton logic ?
As for WMD
http://www.sundayherald.com/41037
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,10142445%255E2,00.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0317-03.htm

Through history there have been many stupid leaders (Napoleon in Russia) but at this moment in time the subject is BUSH , if you wish to stay on topic I will be more than pleased to discuss the matter further.
My thoughts on the legitimacy of the war can be found here
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=10030&page=1

[FRANKFRANKFRANK]

Not to be cheap or childish, but Bush can suck all the cum out of my cock until he chokes!

[dreadhed]

Your president is a moron in my eyes so I don't consider it name calling so much as speaking the truth , oh and he's an imbecile.

The title of the post should give a clue as to why Clinton isn't the man of the moment , would you like to start a thread entitled Clinton logic ?
As for WMD
http://www.sundayherald.com/41037
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,10142445%255E2,00.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0317-03.htm

Through history there have been many stupid leaders (Napoleon in Russia) but at this moment in time the subject is BUSH , if you wish to stay on topic I will be more than pleased to discuss the matter further.
My thoughts on the legitimacy of the war can be found here
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=10030&page=1
You did not call Bush names you were making personal attacks at people on this site for not agreeing with you. That is just immutre. We all now they did not find stock piles of wepons, but they did find some WMDs look it up. Also the intel was fucked up, but was that Bush's faul? I don't belive so. This has been going on longer than him. Clinton is one of the reasons there was no communication between our own intel. I'm just looking at facts here thats all. I know alot of people don't want to hear that but oh well. I consider my self to follow what I have learned and see where the facts lead. Not just spew forth half truths & take every thing at face value. As for Clinton I just feel the need to point out to everyone who thinks Bush is so bad, where was all the out rage when Clinton was at was there was none thats all.
We all know our Gov is full of crap no dought about it. Not just Bush.

[psychocat]

You did not call Bush names you were making personal attacks at people on this site for not agreeing with you. That is just immutre. We all now they did not find stock piles of wepons, but they did find some WMDs look it up. Also the intel was fucked up, but was that Bush's faul? I don't belive so. This has been going on longer than him. Clinton is one of the reasons there was no communication between our own intel. I'm just looking at facts here thats all. I know alot of people don't want to hear that but oh well. I consider my self to follow what I have learned and see where the facts lead. Not just spew forth half truths & take every thing at face value. As for Clinton I just feel the need to point out to everyone who thinks Bush is so bad, where was all the out rage when Clinton was at was there was none thats all.
We all know our Gov is full of crap no dought about it. Not just Bush.

You're still missing the whole point of the thread
Who did I call names other than Bush?
I can back up any claims I make.
Show us the proof of your facts , because up to now you have offered (IMO) only opinions.

[dreadhed]

I guess yuo don't know an opinion from fact you may want to go back and look at some things you said. I have stated facts on this post if you care to check it futher that is up to you. I'm going to give you an example of an opinion and a fact. Also go look up mustard gas and sarin gas and tell me none was found. That won't happen because they did.
ok fist on opinion
Bush is a moron
fact
Bush was not the first Pes to go into Iraq.
You were not calling me a moron? It sure seemed that way. Mabey I miss inturpted what you said.

[KronicKing]

your right hes not...wait who was the other one....his father maybe? yes yes that was the one think there may be a conection?

the only bush i trust is my own ;)

[braindead]

LOL OMG YOU ARE A DUMB MOTHER FUCKER


saddam fought terrorism?

HE FUCKING TERRORIZED HIS OWN PEOPLE (or is rape and murder not terrorizing)



holy shit, i needed a laugh

Saddam killed kurds, they are terrorists. Therefore saddam fought terror. I hate americans

[psychocat]

I guess yuo don't know an opinion from fact you may want to go back and look at some things you said. I have stated facts on this post if you care to check it futher that is up to you. I'm going to give you an example of an opinion and a fact. Also go look up mustard gas and sarin gas and tell me none was found. That won't happen because they did.
ok fist on opinion
Bush is a moron
fact
Bush was not the first Pes to go into Iraq.
You were not calling me a moron? It sure seemed that way. Mabey I miss inturpted what you said.

Do you really think I am going to do your research for you ? LMAO
Bush is a moron isn't opinion , it's documented fact.

"I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to
answer questions. I can't answer your question."
â??In response to a question about whether he wished he could take back any of his answers in the
first debate. Reynoldsburg, Ohio, Oct. 4, 2000 (Thanks to Peter Feld.)

"...more and more of our imports are coming from overseas."
-- On NPR's Morning Edition (9/26) - (Thanks Paul ...)

[Looker]

It's just a messy urban war there in Iraq....Nobody ever said it was gonna be easy..too many civilians in the way...I dunno maybe someday it will end..I mean I know Saddam was terrible and all but did all this have to happen?? Our troops over there are going to support it cause thy are good dudes who want to do the right thing for the most part...I dunno it just seems to be a bloodbath that has reached a deadly stalemate...

[KronicKing]

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