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CoMfOrTaBlYnUmB420
07-17-2007, 06:02 PM
what does a blind person see in their dreams???


i thought of that last night and it had be going for a couple hours. what do you guys think? if someone blind has never seen what people or animals actually look like do they see them in their dreams or are dreams just blank with voices and sounds?

Juggnoxalo
07-17-2007, 06:05 PM
Well dreams have nothing to do with your vision what so ever. Your eyes are closed when you dream and it's basically your brain showing you these images while you sleep. Back in Psychology class our teacher answered this question and told us Blind people do dream exactly like the rest of us. So that should answer your question.

CoMfOrTaBlYnUmB420
07-17-2007, 06:12 PM
but someone who has been blind since birth has never really seen an actual image so im wondering how they appear in your dreams if you have no idea what it looks like. for instance, most of our dreams are made up of images weve seen in our past, but a blind person doesnt have the privelege of vision or images for their brain to turn into a dream

sway-z
07-17-2007, 06:14 PM
I have a better "high" though; is there a limit to space? such as a wall, barrier, or "fabric" thats rippable to potentially reach a new demension?

Dr.Chiefer
07-17-2007, 06:15 PM
They do not dream like us...
People who can see can dream of actual images that they have seen before, people who are blind can just imagine what things looks like and so probably have very different thoughts.

Jizzle Blizzle420
07-17-2007, 06:17 PM
but someone who has been blind since birth has never really seen an actual image so im wondering how they appear in your dreams if you have no idea what it looks like. for instance, most of our dreams are made up of images weve seen in our past, but a blind person doesnt have the privelege of vision or images for their brain to turn into a dream

Ive wondered this same thing....

Oh and Sway-z please do not try to thread jack. that is rude.:hippy:

Juggnoxalo
07-17-2007, 06:18 PM
but someone who has been blind since birth has never really seen an actual image so im wondering how they appear in your dreams if you have no idea what it looks like. for instance, most of our dreams are made up of images weve seen in our past, but a blind person doesnt have the privelege of vision or images for their brain to turn into a dreamThey have ears, they can read with their fingers, use their hands to feel and see with. Blind people have a lot of knowledge and know pretty much what we look like and what the objects look like around them in their daily life. Now they might not exactly know what a whale looks like because that's not part of their daily routine. But I'm basically going by what Psychology class taught me because someone in the class brought up this same question.

CoMfOrTaBlYnUmB420
07-17-2007, 06:29 PM
maybe you can describe it but it would still be disproportional wouldnt it? so their dreams must be pretty trippy cuz everything would look funny

Juggnoxalo
07-17-2007, 06:30 PM
You can describe what something looks like to a blind person. They can use their hands to feel out the shape. The only thing they can't really imagine is color.Exactly.

That's pretty much the same thing our Psychology Professor told us. You can't describe or feel color but shapes and objects are things a Blind person can relate to.

Juggnoxalo
07-17-2007, 06:32 PM
maybe you can describe it but it would still be disproportional wouldnt it? so their dreams must be pretty trippy cuz everything would look funnyHow would everything be disproportional. Do you think a Blind person touches their face and feels that one of their eyeballs is under their nose and the other one is on top of their head? They know where every body part is located and eventually understand what it looks like just from touching and feeling. They don't think we look like aliens.

CoMfOrTaBlYnUmB420
07-17-2007, 06:33 PM
haha ya true. but when when they make an iamge of a person its most likely slightly off

NextLineIsMine
07-17-2007, 06:37 PM
I asked this in a post once too, a couple months ago. Those blind since birth feel and hear in their dreams but still dont see a thing

CoMfOrTaBlYnUmB420
07-17-2007, 07:27 PM
hmm my dad doesnt know either. i think billionfold and jugg have had the closest answers. anybody else have input?

anomalousirrelivance
07-17-2007, 10:00 PM
I really doubt it would be anything close to what we think of, they have NEVER seen anything, they don't even know what sight is, if they suddenly were able to see something I bet they would go "huh, soooo this is sight?"

its like trying to picture a tree or a plant you've never EVER seen before and have never seen anything like it before, how do you have even the remotest idea what it will look like?




I would wager they don't think sight is actually like what it really is.

Oneironaut
07-17-2007, 10:06 PM
I don't believe it, NLIM. Post a link proving this.

Well, in all honesty someone who has been blind since birth cannot possibly see things in their dreams, but they can feel their dreams...

Like when they feel the shape of a glass of water, that "feeling" is in their dreams. It's actually a little hard to grasp, unless you're blind. But I still think this counts as a visual dream, because they picture what it feels like in their heads.
I've actually asked a person who was blind from birth, and he did not report "seeing" anything in his dreams. An interesting thing about blind people is that the visual cortex in their brains can shrink down to almost nothing, and the parts related to other senses grow into the space that the visual cortex isn't using.

CoMfOrTaBlYnUmB420
07-17-2007, 10:11 PM
I've actually asked a person who was blind from birth, and he did not report "seeing" anything in his dreams. An interesting thing about blind people is that the visual cortex in their brains can shrink down to almost nothing, and the parts related to other senses grow into the space that the visual cortex isn't using.


ive also heard this. when someone loses one of their senses others are intensified in a way

friendowl
07-17-2007, 10:16 PM
i talk to thsi blind child who is about 14 years old
she has never seen anything in her life
she is a lil strange but very smart

she is very afraid of how trucks sound
like thos ebig constuction ones i guess
she asked me to decribe one to her cuz
she is so scared of them that she cries
the way we imagine monsters or demons
that is how she views a truck

poor kid

Chronisseur
07-18-2007, 12:21 AM
Thats sad:(
i imagine blind folk can accurately depict alot of common images and probably fill the unknown with logic, especially in their dreams.

Maybe give her a model truck and let her feel it?...(geez wish I could help)

CoMfOrTaBlYnUmB420
07-18-2007, 12:50 AM
ya i feel bad for your friend white owl. but thats a good idea chronisseur with giving her a toy truck. try that then see if she dreams about it and ask what a truck looked like to her in her dream

YouAintKnow
07-18-2007, 12:55 AM
what does a blind person see in their dreams???


i thought of that last night and it had be going for a couple hours. what do you guys think? if someone blind has never seen what people or animals actually look like do they see them in their dreams or are dreams just blank with voices and sounds?

I have read that if people are born blind then they don't dream or its obviously different then non-blind peoples dreams, maybe just thoughts or objects that they can create in their minds, etc.

And if you become blind by a disease/accident, etc then I think they dream normally...

lagstronaut
07-18-2007, 02:36 AM
Most people that are born blind still have their optical receptors or whatever they're called so they can imagine shapes and textures in their mind. People who develop blindness later in life can lose/damage their optical receptors and go through the painful experience of not only being blind but living in complete darkness as well without the power of imagining a picture in your mind. While people who lose their sight mid-life are traumatized, people who lose their optical receptors are said to be living a life of tortured hell