Alternatives to tobacco

[Miamibassjock]

hello, i have been trying to get off tobacco for a while now but as i could never find anything else to burn my 'erb with i have always went back to it.

i have now been made aware of some other things to try but was wondering if anyone has any opinions on them or any more suggestions, i usually use a vaporiser :thumbsup: but i do like a nice spliff now and then but really really dont want to have to smoke tobacco ever again (its evil!).

here is what i've tried/heard of:

HERBAL CIGS (not the nicest smell/taste and they still have tar in them, burns down with even consistancy (sp)

RASPBERRY LEAF TEA (i'm trying this jst now, seems ok, not too much smell/taste but dont know if its carsenogenic, burns down with even consistancy)

MULLEIN (jst ordered some today to try, i've read it has almost no taste/smell, dont know how it will burn yet)

DRIED PARSLEY (not tried yet)

Thanks mbj

[halo]

Why not just use straight weed? You dont need another plant to help it burn man.

[The Lemon]

Isn't all smoke carcinogenic?

[Terms_Broken]

If you are really wanting to give this up everytime you slip up force yourself to give a J to someone else and not be able to smoke any of it. I know that would make me wanna quit right away. Heh.

[dankitydank]

psssht. just use straight weed like a normal person. and if that dont get rid of your craving chew some nicotine gum while u toke. my theory is it would fool your body into thinking your smoking the nicotine therefor getting rid of your craving. plus you get more high without that tobacco shit.

[Miamibassjock]

psssht. just use straight weed like a normal person. and if that dont get rid of your craving chew some nicotine gum while u toke. my theory is it would fool your body into thinking your smoking the nicotine therefor getting rid of your craving. plus you get more high without that tobacco shit.

As i said though and i'm sure many other people will agree, they are only using tobacco so the J burns better/longer/using less Green, etc. if we didnt have to use tobacco believe me most off us wouldnt! (as stated tobacco is EVIL)
You also state " just use straight weed like a normal person"
Have a look at this bud (http://www.ukcia.org/activism/tokepure.htm), As you will see halfway down the page I'm not alone and i would say most of the "75% of cannabis is smoked in joints mixed with tobacco" users are like me and would LOVE to be able to use something else so they dont have to give up the LOVELY REEF!:rastasmoke:

Peace Mbj

[LIP]

Wow, im one of the 5% who smoke it pure.

[zach5993]

i do love a good spliff everynow and then...but the taste of the tobacco interferres with the great taste of marijuana. It does slow the burn rate down consideraly. I would suggest just smoking plain marijuana. :rastasmoke:

[Storm Crow]

First off, grow your own! It is the only way to be absolutely sure that your cannabis hasn't been sprayed with Raid, moldy, last year's crop, glass weed, etc. When you grow your own, you have an automatic "cutting" agent for your bud- it's called leaves! Hippies smoked dang near the whole plant! I know- I was there!

Now about the carcinogenicity of cannabis. It really pisses me off that you haven't done your research before posting! The info is out there- look it up! Heck- here it is-


Cannabis Smoke and Cancer: Assessing the Risk
Cannabis Smoke and Cancer: Assessing the Risk - NORML (http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6891)

Cannabis and tobacco smoke are not equally carcinogenic
Cannabis and tobacco smoke are not equally carcinogenic (http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1277837)

Smoking Marijuana Does Not Cause Lung Cancer
US: Web: Study: Smoking Marijuana Does Not Cause Lung Cancer (http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n1065/a03.html)

Granny:hippy:

[Miamibassjock]

i do love a good spliff everynow and then...but the taste of the tobacco interferres with the great taste of marijuana. It does slow the burn rate down consideraly. I would suggest just smoking plain marijuana. :rastasmoke:


Really wish i could smoke just pure Green reefs but i pay £45 a 1/4 and cant really afford to make them (also alot of my smoking J's are done socially, which doesnt last long if pure!)

I now after trying the things on my list in original post, strongly believe i have now found the perfect mixer.
Now dont laugh but dried parsley is perfect!! (for me anyway and hopefully others will think the same)
I now need to get as many facts, truths, stories about dried parsley as poss incase smoking/taken to much can cause any problems
So i'll start a new thread which will hopefully help me find out.

Peace Mbj

[nightlight]

Get a pipe dude. You only need like .2 to pack a bowl and for each quarter you buy that is like 40 bowl packs. If you are rolling with tobacco so you use less weed then just stop rolling. you can taste it better out of glass anyway.

[sam44]

hey man, get some mugwort online. it smells just like marijuana when burned.

[nightlight]

hey man, get some mugwort online. it smells just like marijuana when burned.

that is bullshit. mugwort does not smell or taste anything like weed and it burns weird. i like smudging it but dont like smoking it. i would never mix it with weed.

[Oneironaut]

As i said though and i'm sure many other people will agree, they are only using tobacco so the J burns better/longer/using less Green, etc. if we didnt have to use tobacco believe me most off us wouldnt! (as stated tobacco is EVIL)
First of all, if you have decent bud and you know how to roll properly, you don't need anything to help it burn better. Cannabis burns perfectly fine by itself. If you don't want to smoke so much weed in your joints, only smoke half a joint at a time. Or better yet, just buy yourself a bowl.

You also state " just use straight weed like a normal person"
Have a look at this bud (http://www.ukcia.org/activism/tokepure.htm), As you will see halfway down the page I'm not alone and i would say most of the "75% of cannabis is smoked in joints mixed with tobacco" users are like me and would LOVE to be able to use something else so they dont have to give up the LOVELY REEF!:rastasmoke:

Peace Mbj
That's a British website. Here in the States, nobody mixes tobacco with their weed. Nobody I know at least. Everybody I smoke with and have ever smoked with has smoked straight weed, and would never think of mixing it with tobacco. I just can't comprehend why so many Europeans taint their buds with that disgusting crap.

[Reefer Rogue]

Buy a bong, smoke it pure. It sounds to me you are addicted to tobacco and are making every excuse you can to smoke it with the cannabis. There is no need for tobacco when using a bong.

[cannabis campbell]

Dried parsley are you joking!? I would rather start smoking again lol

[Buddahbear]

sage

[sam44]

sage

yea

[Nation_1ne]

Pretty shocking that so many fellow users would be so misunderstanding about such a subject. However I don't know of any alternatives myself, I would like to though. All of the people I know smoke Green with Tobacco. Not because they like it, actually most of us hate tobacco, but as stated before it's slower burning and means less weed. You're right a pipe is an option but not an option for someone who wants to smoke joints. Quit saying "Oh that's not how we do it in the USA" we're not debating how you smoke your green across the pond, just asking for some friendly advice instead.

[Oneironaut]

If you really hate it, stop smoking it and stop giving money to the companies that make it. Putting tobacco in your joints does nothing to help you save weed. If you want to smoke half a joint worth of weed, you can just smoke half the joint. And straight weed burns at a perfectly fine rate. I've smoked hundreds of joints, never with tobacco, and they burn just fine. If your joints are burning too fast, perhaps you need to refine your rolling technique. I don't really think it's worth it to have your joints burn slower if you have to risk getting lung cancer and you have to fuck up the weed taste in your joints.

[slipknotpsycho]

just go pure.... i don't understand why people 'have' to mix shit with it?

i might throw some tobacco in now and then in a joint... but i smoke anyways...

your best bet is probably gonna be some legal bud tho....

[Nation_1ne]

If you really hate it, stop smoking it and stop giving money to the companies that make it. Putting tobacco in your joints does nothing to help you save weed. If you want to smoke half a joint worth of weed, you can just smoke half the joint. And straight weed burns at a perfectly fine rate. I've smoked hundreds of joints, never with tobacco, and they burn just fine. If your joints are burning too fast, perhaps you need to refine your rolling technique. I don't really think it's worth it to have your joints burn slower if you have to risk getting lung cancer and you have to fuck up the weed taste in your joints.

Preach all you like mate, I'm not here to debate how I choose to smoke my joints. If you don't wanna smoke them with tobacco (or anything else) in then fine, you don't hear me trying to tell you to do otherwise. All we're asking is for an alternative to using tobacco.

[AlwaysBlazed]

I rarely put anything else in my joints besides weed. A spliff is nice every so often but i'd rather not smoke tobacco at all anymore since I just quit for the 2nd time.

[Reefer Rogue]

Here's an alternative to tobacco: Will power

[Nation_1ne]

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Apologies for double post.

[Nation_1ne]

Here's an alternative to tobacco: Will power

*Slams face into desk*

We are looking for an alternative to use in our joints. I don't get why you guys get so offended by such simple shit sometimes, it's totally shocking and uncalled for. Please, people stop reciting the same things over to us. Just be a friend and shed some light, and if you don't know then no problem.

[Reefer Rogue]

*Slams face into desk*

We are looking for an alternative to use in our joints. I don't get why you guys get so offended by such simple shit sometimes, it's totally shocking and uncalled for. Please, people stop reciting the same things over to us. Just be a friend and shed some light, and if you don't know then no problem.

You see pretty offended, not me. I hope you're slamming your own face into that desk. I'll recite what i want, deal with it. Your anger amuses me, you should chill out and smoke a joint with tobacco, or as an alternative, use a bong! No need for tobacco...

[Nation_1ne]

You see pretty offended, not me. I hope you're slamming your own face into that desk. I'll recite what i want, deal with it. Your anger amuses me, you should chill out and smoke a joint with tobacco, or as an alternative, use a bong! No need for tobacco...

You've got the wrong idea, I wasn't aiming it just at you. Just the fact that several people have stated the exact same thing. Rather than people reading what's already been said. I'm pretty sure you'd be annoyed if you were in my shoes also. Not only that if you read through I'm sure you'll see that it almost does seem like some people are offended by the fact we have asked about a tobacco alternative. Rather than being helpful they have posted sarcastic comments. There's just no need for it. How does that represent us as a community? Especially to new folk.

P.s The whole face slamming comment was humour, I wasn't being serious. By the way I can see why you were offended by it, I didn't mean your face lmao!

[Reefer Rogue]

Lol, no hard feelings. All i will say is that this is the internet, people will post shit you don't like. Good luck in finding whatever alternative you prefer.