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twoguysupnorth
07-17-2007, 05:16 PM
has anyone read the story in may/june CC(cannabis culture)? there is a story of people getting busted on myspace and othe sights like it for advertising that they are stoners. there are cyber narcs pretending to be kids and trying to buy weed from different people when their handles and pics are obvious about drug use. a little scary, but i guess it is expected.
it warns about pics, stating your city and schools and things that help narrow down where somebody could find you. in some of the cases the people were blatant idiots and probably deserved it(pics of guns and drugs and themselves), in others it was more like entrappment. selling themselves as sexy stoner babes to encourage obviously horny guys/kids to sell them some pot. its a pretty good story.
decontrol
07-17-2007, 05:22 PM
yeah I read it I think, the one where most of it was in florida right? atleast I think it is, I have the issue so I'll reread it in a lil.
Spoken Word
07-17-2007, 05:23 PM
I don't know. If you are stupid enough to label yourself a "stoner" on something as public as myspace, I guess you deserve to get in trouble. All I know is these stories of kids getting in trouble with their schools and what-not... i mean, what do the parents have to say about it?
If I was under the age of 17 my mother wouldn't like me going to jail because of some stupid video I put on a website. she would argue that these people looking at my profile are molesters or something... i don't think it is anyones(but the parents) buisness what these kids do after school or put on their recreational website.
4twentE
07-17-2007, 05:25 PM
there is no way to really safely line up pot deals online. it's all too easy to get busted. those who do it are most likely those who haven't been in the game too long. i hate for people to be getting busted for pot under any circumstances, but it provides these kids with a valuable lesson. and some of them are dumb enough to deserve to learn the hard way.
Spoken Word
07-17-2007, 05:28 PM
oo yea.. if these kids are doing deals on-line.. by all means.. arrest them
i heard school were arresting kids because of drug use on myspace, which i think is ridiculous.
deadfan420
07-17-2007, 05:31 PM
I ditched my myspace account long ago. But I do use Facebook and make no secret of my stoner habits. However, my security settings are pretty high so only my friends can see anything in my profile. And all my friends on Facebook are people I actually know from school and stuff. If a total stranger requests to be my friend, I will reject them.
Trying to score mj online is a risky idea. I see a lot of requests for it on sites like Craigslist. I just hope there's not a cop thats responding to those requests, hoping to bust a few stoners.
There's gotta be a better, easier way to score some good weed.
Breukelen advocaat
07-17-2007, 06:22 PM
Trying to score mj online is a risky idea. I see a lot of requests for it on sites like Craigslist. I just hope there's not a cop thats responding to those requests, hoping to bust a few stoners.
There's gotta be a better, easier way to score some good weed.
I think that a set-up by cops responding to ads on that site would most likely be for sellers, rather than buyers, who are advertising. But, you never know.
If people go on a site and get asked to sell weed, and they do it, they deserve all they get, coz they're idiots.
Blitzed
07-17-2007, 06:39 PM
Well, if they were trying to buy pot online then they were dumb, but just posting pictures is not illegal. First all the pictures could be photo-shopped, also someone could have placed those pictures on the computer, and you didnt do it. So don't let them give you that bull shit, and blaze on!:stoned:
deadfan420
07-17-2007, 06:55 PM
I think that a set-up by cops responding to ads on that site would most likely be for sellers, rather than buyers, who are advertising. But, you never know.
I hope your right. In some of my more desperate moments, I have considered trying to find a dealer through Craigslist. But never had the guts to go through with it.
Grover Cleveland
07-17-2007, 07:40 PM
I think most people don't realize that all you have to do is ask if the person on the other end is a cop and they HAVE to tell you. It's entrapment if they don't.
My brother-in-law is an undercover cop... and to give you an idea of how much they actually care about the typical 5 and dime smoker, he comes over the house all the time and I leave my bowl out. The last time he came over, my bong was sitting right on my computer desk. He doesn't give a shit, and neither does anybody else. He would just as soon light up with me (if he could) as bust me for something.
He has been on UC duty downtown Nashville to bust prostitution. His partner (a female) goes UC as a call girl and they nab people that come up to her on the street. If the people needing a trick ask her if she's a cop before they say anything else (and the smart ones know to do that) she HAS to tell them. They walk away and she waits for the next mark. It's as simple as that. Cops can't take any action with a person that asks them if they are law enforcement first and when they say "yes" they move on...
Honestly, it pisses me off that articles like this even exist. All they do is promote more paranoia among the community and force people to go without herb.
In the end, nobody gives a shit about the guy looking to buy an 1/8th of weed or the guy selling it to them. They are there to get rid of the people that have 10 plants growing in their basement.
Honestly, the people on message forums such as this one that post photos of their grow are in a lot more danger than the dime dealer looking to unload less than an ounce of weed.
Breukelen advocaat
07-17-2007, 08:54 PM
I hope your right. In some of my more desperate moments, I have considered trying to find a dealer through Craigslist. But never had the guts to go through with it.
The best ones are the one or two-man operations that are doing it part-time for free smoke and maybe a few bucks profit. Chances are, the larger delivery services are being watched and there's always the possibility that something could happen. The only other thing to be concerned about is ripoff artists, so try to find someone that sounds like they have some class, and is an adult.
zino11
07-17-2007, 08:56 PM
there dumbasses for tryin to sell pot over the internet people need to smartin up
D.Boone
07-17-2007, 08:59 PM
thats why i never respond to anybody trying to ask me to hook them up online. its just not smart, and thats also why i privatized my myspace so only people i know can talk to me.
Grover Cleveland
07-17-2007, 10:10 PM
that's also why someday, when you're in need and you have nowhere else to turn, somebody is going to be like :S4: and you're probably going to get pissed.
It sucks that people are so damn paranoid about selling a dime bag that they shut out other tokers... for every 1 narc that might be using the internet to try and bust a dealer, there are probably 5000 people that legitimately live in the middle of bible country and can't find any herb.
I started a big campaign to find some herb about a year ago... since I live in the middle of west bumble fuck and don't know a single person that will admit they smoke or know how to get it.
I e-mailed one guy that had the same response (or some variation) of that... "Sorry I can't help you, It's too dangerous..."
A few months later, I got an email from the guy. He had run dry and wanted to know if I ever had any luck with my effort to locate a bag.
I took a lot of pleasure in telling him to go fuck himself.
You're never going to change people's minds about it. Those that have it don't really give a crap about those who don't. That is, until they go dry. Then they're all about taking a small risk in order to score a sack for themselves.
It would be nice if we lived in a world where people would risk a citation (yes a citation is all you'll ever receive for possessing less than 3 grams) in order to hook up a fellow toker in need. The unfortunate fact is that we don't live in that world.
D.Boone
07-17-2007, 10:12 PM
that's also why someday, when you're in need and you have nowhere else to turn, somebody is going to be like :S4: and you're probably going to get pissed.
It sucks that people are so damn paranoid about selling a dime bag that they shut out other tokers... for every 1 narc that might be using the internet to try and bust a dealer, there are probably 5000 people that legitimately live in the middle of bible country and can't find any herb.
I started a big campaign to find some herb about a year ago... since I live in the middle of west bumble fuck and don't know a single person that will admit they smoke or know how to get it.
I e-mailed one guy that had the same response (or some variation) of that... "Sorry I can't help you, It's too dangerous..."
A few months later, I got an email from the guy. He had run dry and wanted to know if I ever had any luck with my effort to locate a bag.
I took a lot of pleasure in telling him to go fuck himself.
You're never going to change people's minds about it. Those that have it don't really give a crap about those who don't. That is, until they go dry. Then they're all about taking a small risk in order to score a sack for themselves.
It would be nice if we lived in a world where people would risk a citation (yes a citation is all you'll ever receive for possessing less than 3 grams) in order to hook up a fellow toker in need. The unfortunate fact is that we don't live in that world.
when im in need of weed i wont be looking for it online.
rebgirl420
07-17-2007, 10:18 PM
I advertise my stoner habits online but id NEVER try to buy or sell online, thats stupid, fuck I dont even talk to people about weed online. Even if they say there from this site. can't be too careful.
Grover Cleveland
07-17-2007, 10:20 PM
you don't talk to people about weed online...?
what the fuck are you doing right now?
Do you access this site via the 9th dimension?
Spikedjester
07-17-2007, 10:22 PM
I don't know. If you are stupid enough to label yourself a "stoner" on something as public as myspace, I guess you deserve to get in trouble. All I know is these stories of kids getting in trouble with their schools and what-not... i mean, what do the parents have to say about it?
If I was under the age of 17 my mother wouldn't like me going to jail because of some stupid video I put on a website. she would argue that these people looking at my profile are molesters or something... i don't think it is anyones(but the parents) business what these kids do after school or put on their recreational website.
I dont agree with the first part of your statement. Aren't you proud of the fact that you smoke? Or are you ashamed of it? People have all kinds of prides that they want everyone to know about, from cultural, to ethical, to sports, rewards, honors ect ect ect. The point is by using your freedom of speech to advocate marijauna (ie posting "Interests: Blazing") I don't think it is fair at all for these people to get in trouble for what they put online.
However, if they are making deals then that is where I have to say they should be on their own. It is still illegal so freedom of speech is fine but setting up deals with people you dont know is risky business and I don't really feel too bad for the people that get caught, its not like its a surprise. Its anticipated.
Spikedjester
07-17-2007, 10:26 PM
you don't talk to people about weed online...?
what the fuck are you doing right now?
Do you access this site via the 9th dimension?
Funny, but not very nice.
rebgirl420
07-17-2007, 10:27 PM
you don't talk to people about weed online...?
what the fuck are you doing right now?
Do you access this site via the 9th dimension?
psh not on myspace I wont but hell maybe you should visit the 9th dimension some time, I think you lost your sense of humor there ;)
Grover Cleveland
07-17-2007, 10:30 PM
Lost my sense of humor when you said you don;t talk about weed online?
no... I was pretty much laughing my ass off when I read that one.... :thumbsup:
rebgirl420
07-17-2007, 10:30 PM
I think it was obvious what I meant there skippy
WEsmokeED
07-17-2007, 11:12 PM
Well you can cut this tension with a knife.
How bout a joint?? :jointsmile:
deadfan420
07-17-2007, 11:26 PM
Grover Cleveland, I pretty much agree with what you have been saying. A lot of people are overly paranoid about weed.
It the cops wanna bust me for haven a gram or less of pot that I keep for personal use, then so be it. Let them waste taxpayers money prosecuting me while some sex offender and/or murderer goes free! Fuck law enforcement!!!
But when i run dry, I start to get desperate 'cause I love the herb so much. I'm almost dry right now, and I'm already greasing up some of my contacts so I can be sure to get some more bud before I totally run out. it's about thinking ahead.
I've seen A LOT of requests for pot on craigslist recently. So much so I'm wondering if LE really cares about the small time buyers like myself (I don't think they do). I even read an article and the LE in Seattle were saying they are not too concerned with people buying/selling weed on craigslist because the amounts are so small that its not usually worth the effort. They go for the big-time dealers (100s of pounds of weed, cocaine, etc) and the smuggling operations from Canada. that's who they care about.
I've been thinking lately about starting an underground network of small-time tokers that can trade info so there's a constant supply of weed. In other words, no one should go dry. Of course, now that I mentioned it, it's public and LE is now on their way to my house to arrest me on terrorism charges. But seriously, we need to take a stand. I don't see how crap like cigarettes and alcohol can be legal, which has destroyed so many lives, and weed is considered a huge public sin.
Sorry for my rambling post, but this issue has been on my mind a lot lately. If I'm desperate for a hookup, I'm not above hitting the internet to find one, LE be damned! They can kiss my big, fat, hairy, stinky ass!!!
deadfan420
07-17-2007, 11:27 PM
Well you can cut this tension with a knife.
How bout a joint?? :jointsmile:
LOL! I second that!!!:rasta:
twoguysupnorth
07-18-2007, 02:20 PM
yes, i do believe it was started in florida. a police detective stated something about myspace being full of drug dealers and other agencies sort of started a campaign. they busted a bunch (7) of different people. the largest amount being 20gs. anyways i wasnt trying to start a paranoia, i just thought that people would want to see this. there were questions asked about the safety on this and other sites, this article just says if you have a question about wether to put on certain pics and stuff then you probably should not but it is up to you. it also said that there was something like 200,000 accounts on myspace alone that had tags and references to marijuana.
sam44
07-18-2007, 03:53 PM
:thumbsup: ..........
Spoken Word
07-18-2007, 05:05 PM
I dont agree with the first part of your statement. Aren't you proud of the fact that you smoke? Or are you ashamed of it?
I'm proud but that does not mean I want everyone to know. I have far too much to lose and I rather blend in with society than look, smell and act like a pothead.
and on myspace??? you don't know who goes through profiles and stuff. yea, you can put it as private but putting videos and pics of you smoking and you holding paraphenilia(sp) is stupid. Why don't you just wait until you chill with them and show them all that stuff? Some don't see the good stuff in pot and only see the negative....and if this person is important to me(boss, school teacher, professor, parent's friends, family members etc.) I wouldn't want them having a negative opinion about me, WITHOUT EVEN MEETING ME! lol
but i'm not argueing anything, you can think what you want and I hope we can end this little thing here. have i nice day:stoned:
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