PDA

View Full Version : Do you believe in Global Warming?



anomalousirrelivance
07-17-2007, 12:01 AM
Very simple, generic, question that anyone will be able to answer....Keep it simple so this doesn't get moved. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Is it happening or are people making it up to fool you and acheive their own ends?

TallCoolOne
07-17-2007, 12:04 AM
Polar Bears...America's newest deadliest threat! I'm sure Colbert will be on top of these white devils!

Ganj
07-17-2007, 12:09 AM
What came first? The global "scare" or evidence of global warming?

Oh My High
07-17-2007, 12:14 AM
Yes, I do believe global warming is happening. I think there is a strong and undeniable of convergence of data on many fronts which all point to one direction: the earth is warming and we probably are causing it.

BoilerUp
07-17-2007, 12:14 AM
I don't see why you shouldn't believe in global warming. Even if it isn't true, at least you are bettering the earth for your children and so on.

zino11
07-17-2007, 12:20 AM
yes very much so

BizzleLuvin
07-17-2007, 12:24 AM
of course. not is like not believing in milk

anomalousirrelivance
07-17-2007, 12:31 AM
Perhaps my question should have been "Do you care about global warming"

I seem to hear alot of red necks (no offense i come from this ancestry as well) saying "Lets go change the climate" in reference to driving their big trucks around in a very aggressive manner.

While this is fun, I think its very irresponsible and the attitude that accompanies it is simple and archaic.:(

Purple Banana
07-17-2007, 01:49 AM
I think global warming is happening, not necessarily being caused by CO2 in the atmosphere- there are about 130ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere now, whereas in the first Ice Age, it's estimated around 1500ppm were in the atmosphere. I think it's a combination of MOSTLY natural and cosmic forces and some human impact that is causing it.

Still couldn't hurt to keep our habitat cleaner, though.

BoilerUp
07-17-2007, 01:59 AM
I think global warming is happening, not necessarily being caused by CO2 in the atmosphere- there are about 130ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere now, whereas in the first Ice Age, it's estimated around 1500ppm were in the atmosphere. I think it's a combination of MOSTLY natural and cosmic forces and some human impact that is causing it.

Still couldn't hurt to keep our habitat cleaner, though.

That is kind of a false fact, though. When an ice age comes along, the world is set into a theoretical spiral where it technically can't raise it's temperature, it just keeps getting lower and lower. The way that the earth recovers from this spiral is through the co2 gasses released by volcanoes. After a while, all of that co2 collects and makes a global warming effect, causing the ice age to discontinue. So really, there has to be a TON of co2 when there is an ice age, otherwise we would still be in one today.

rebgirl420
07-17-2007, 02:04 AM
I believe the earths getting warmer but I dont think that humans are the primary reason. Though im sure were not helping. But still, what could going green really hurt? Though personally, all these celebrities can go to hell. Screw Al Gore and Madonna and U2.

Oneironaut
07-17-2007, 02:14 AM
It's not a matter of belief. It's a matter of scientific evidence. The scientific evidence shows very clearly that the earth is warming up. Even the global warming deniers have stopped denying global warming. Now the argument is about what degree global warming is caused by human activity, not whether it is happening at all. You just can't argue with the thermometers at this point, and even the most stubborn conservative politicians are beginning to realize this and shift their focus.

As for whether it is human-caused or not, I'm going with the scientific consensus of climatologists who know way more about the issue than I do, and who say it is very likely (though not entirely certain) that humans are the primary cause of global warming.
IPCC Fourth Assessment Report - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPCC_Fourth_Assessment_Report)

onequestion
07-17-2007, 04:03 AM
Humans hav an incredibly insignificant affect on the earth's tempurature. Co2 may be a greenhouse gas but compared to water vapor it is nothing. And isnt it funny how everybody just overlooks the fact that the southern hemisphere is cooling?

Blitzed
07-17-2007, 04:04 AM
I cant wait for Al Gore to join cannabis.com

onequestion
07-17-2007, 04:20 AM
cant wait for al gore to suck on a chode.

budsmoker
07-17-2007, 04:44 AM
didn't it start cause of the industrial revolution?

switch226
07-17-2007, 04:55 AM
damn the cow farts and eskimo's for causing world disaster once again

deadfan420
07-17-2007, 05:00 AM
YEs I think its true.

Better safe than sorry right. If we think warming is true, and it turns out not to be than the worst we have done is clean up the earth 'cause we were all freakin' out about warming the earth with all our pollution. So that's a good thing, right?

So we should all have the attitude that global warming is the biggest threat to humans ever and clean up this damned earth so we can keep growing buds for a long long time.!

MadSativa
07-17-2007, 05:00 AM
That is the dumbest question I have herd, the question should be what do we do to stop it, Just cause its global warming doesnt mean it going to get warmer every where. It means anychange in out upper atmospher temp(and change in our ocean temp), will change our planet drasticaly. We are the cause of global warming but most of all every one keeps aruging this when the arguments need to stop, it is upon us and even here where I live we are seeing tornados where they were never seen in thousands of years of human history. We will see parts of the US under water and parts of the US change drasticaly form drought to floods. Oh it is upon us and all that TV shows is fuckin paris hilton

switch226
07-17-2007, 05:02 AM
once again... I just want to point out that cow farts tear apart the time space continuum and the fact that eskimo's got a little warm and are too lazy to take off their seal skin coats :wtf:

MadSativa
07-17-2007, 05:04 AM
come on main there will never be enough cow farts to break the ozone down and who do you think is farming the cows, cows didnt just all herd up and say were going to build fences to keep us safe and away from predators

MadSativa
07-17-2007, 05:06 AM
sometimes I cant help but think why. why does humanity want to die?? Why are they so quick to discard the truth and so quick to belive and follow the propaganda and lies,

switch226
07-17-2007, 05:09 AM
I was trying to be the comic relief of a thread that talks about something that cannot be proved :wtf:. a few hot days and a string of hurricanes blowing over the US is enough for the gov. to capitalize and blame it on something else ie. global warming instead of taking the bad rap for not responding to people in need and rejecting foreign help. :(

Oneironaut
07-17-2007, 05:13 AM
Umm, what? The current administration has not been blaming things on global warming. They're in cahoots with the oil industry, and are very much on the side of the global warming deniers. They've only recently been forced to concede that global warming is a real issue that we need to seriously address.

FUNKNUGGET
07-17-2007, 05:14 AM
who says no? I dont get the argument against it

MadSativa
07-17-2007, 05:16 AM
They only scientis who do not acept globale warming as fact is the petrolum association which governs all scientific associations in every country, these guys have scientis working for them who have already been caught lieing about cigarets

kingkewl
07-17-2007, 05:25 AM
Ya... global Warming...lol<P><a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/kingkewl/warm.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>

kingkewl
07-17-2007, 05:40 AM
heres prrof... lol

jokeyjokejoke
07-17-2007, 07:16 PM
Yes it's happening but i doubt we are the only cause. The Ice Age ended because the globe warmed and man wasn't there to cause that. I s'pose we may be adding to it, but i think it's gonna happen anyway and no, i dont care.

Peruvian Devil
07-17-2007, 08:09 PM
of course its happening but i believe that it isn't caused by humans, there is no real proof of that at all, only theories that have yet to be proven, however there is evidence stating that as planets get older they warm up, so I'm not gonna do anything about it cuz even if it is humans who are causing the planet to get warmer our efforts wouldn't do crap In order to help, factories would have to be shot down and people would have to use other forms of energy besides burning fuels....anyone see that happenin anytime soon?

LIP
07-17-2007, 08:35 PM
Yes, i belive global warming is real, but i do not belive it's anything to do with us. It's natural.

KingsBlend420
07-17-2007, 09:48 PM
I believe that it's real, but that we won't see any major catastrophic changes in our lifetimes which is why we need to work hard as a team to reduce the amount of pollution that we are releasing into the atmosphere. This is slowly starting and in a few years I'm sure that many countries will be working together to help reduce global warming. We need to work together for our children and their children. I for one do not want to see my children suffer.

MadSativa
07-18-2007, 02:13 AM
Yes it's happening but i doubt we are the only cause. The Ice Age ended because the globe warmed and man wasn't there to cause that. I s'pose we may be adding to it, but i think it's gonna happen anyway and no, i dont care.

the theroy of what caused the ice age is not yet fact and all scientsis are pointing to an asteroid causing the ice age ............Smart Guy, LIP I here yeah but we are directly related to gloabal warming it would have taken at least 500 years to do what we did in 100 years

MadSativa
07-18-2007, 02:15 AM
I believe that it's real, but that we won't see any major catastrophic changes in our lifetimes which is why we need to work hard as a team to reduce the amount of pollution that we are releasing into the atmosphere. This is slowly starting and in a few years I'm sure that many countries will be working together to help reduce global warming. We need to work together for our children and their children. I for one do not want to see my children suffer.

King what do you call whats happening now thiland is close to gon Lousiana is close to gone like I said it is know fact if we dont do somethign tochange this Londaon and every coastal city will be under water in 20 years. The agrument is it will happen it 20 or 40, I say what differance does it make 20-40 we need to act

onequestion
07-18-2007, 03:33 AM
The argument is that global warming is not caused by humans. I believ that te burden of proof should be on the people who claim global warming is true rather than having a better safe than sorry panic. All of the science pointing to global warming is fauly. Junk science. I know that you guys saw an inconvenient truth and know everyhting but that movie is a pice of well made crap that is very good at manipulating people with scare tacits and stuff. Polar bears can swim everybody.

onequestion
07-18-2007, 03:34 AM
King what do you call whats happening now thiland is close to gon Lousiana is close to gone like I said it is know fact if we dont do somethign tochange this Londaon and every coastal city will be under water in 20 years. The agrument is it will happen it 20 or 40, I say what differance does it make 20-40 we need to act

That is not true.

onequestion
07-18-2007, 03:35 AM
it would have taken at least 500 years to do what we did in 100 years

I would like to know the science behind that.

aeonblue11
07-18-2007, 05:16 AM
i dont know. but those who do sure say some scary things.

Fencewalker
07-18-2007, 05:55 AM
They only scientis who do not acept globale warming as fact is the petrolum association which governs all scientific associations in every country, these guys have scientis working for them who have already been caught lieing about cigarets

I'm going with the scientific consensus of climatologists who know way more about the issue than I do, and who say it is very likely (though not entirely certain) that humans are the primary cause of global warming.
IPCC Fourth Assessment Report - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Funny thing about the IPCC...The lead author debunks it himself. In fact, he had to sue to get his name off of it...They refused to do that for him and many others, even though they didn't join the "consensus".

Real good movie to watch (kind of a counter point to Gore's film):

The Great Global Warming Swindle (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3028847519933351566&q=global+warming+swindle&total=269&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0)

MadSativa
07-19-2007, 01:04 AM
I would like to know the science behind that.

Ah come on we have been taking global temp mesurments for so long now estimating, what will hapen it the next 200 to 500 years as far as temp is not that hard, you factor in what has happened in the past recordings............. you know what I dont care, I dont think some of you are as smart a you say you are and it shows, global warming is not a joke and I was in new orleans after what happened and went back 3 months ago and alot of new Orleans is still under water. Thiland is faceing simmular problems after their sunamis, if the north caps melt sealevel rises 20 feet if the south caps melt the ocean leavel rises another 20 feet. The caps north and south are now melting simultamiously and that is where the london under water 20-40 year argument comes from, you can not build a sea wall around an entire county or a citty like London. We should be debating how do we save those species, which are now doomed(polor bears swim, but even the strongest bear, 70 miles out to sea starving and weak will drown and it has been caught on camera), how do we slow what is happening, and most of all how do we prepare. Most important thing is water and food, and shelter, think about yur pets your children, then think about what can happen in your area, and try to prepare make safty kits come up with a plan, but most of all dont panic.:pimp:

Global warming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming)


Global Warming Fast Facts (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1206_041206_global_warming.html)


OH- and I have not seen the al gore movie but now that you try to deface it I am gonna watch it, I dont take anything a polititian says as good any more so I just dont listen to any of them I vote undecied if I dont agree with any of them. but mabey what people have been saying about gore is true, I am going to watch that movie this weakend. I recomend watching Planet Earth, that was a film project in which the goal was to get the most spectacular natual acts on film, It took over 5 years to make and they caght globalwarming effects on camera over the 5 years, and now they have been funded and soon in a matter of years we will have planet earth 2. It realy supprised me on the Planet earth episode of planet extiction that the #1 threat was global warming, not asteroids, space aliens, Wars, us. steven hawkin even said it him self we pose the most danger to our selves and our planet

Pipe Dreams
07-19-2007, 02:11 AM
No. I think its just a normal climate change, yeah it could most definitely be fuckin some shit up, but I think its the earths own doing.

MadSativa
07-19-2007, 02:22 AM
I used to think that too but not anymore

WakingDream
07-19-2007, 06:49 PM
"When all the broken hearted people living in the world agree, there will be an answer"

If it's not already too late.


People are putting out stupid ideas like spraying silver dioxide into our atmosphere. The dioxide acts like millions of tiny mirrors reflecting back the harmfull light.

Does anybody care what silver dioxide does to the enviroment or our bodies? Do we even know what it does? Seeing as many chemicals are deemed safe by our standards before they are even properly tested i'm not sure.

delusionsofNORMALity
07-20-2007, 02:22 AM
i believe in global warming and global cooling and global deterioration etc. etc. etc.

what i don't believe in is the sort of scare tactics and misinformation used by has-beens like gore and company to dupe the gullible into believing that it's all their fault and unless we do something right now we are all doomed. this globe has been heating up and cooling down for a long long time and no bunch of half-wit yahoos is gonna force me to change from the sort of low impact life style i've lived for all of my adult life. this entire dust-up over the immediacy of global warming is nothing more than something too occupy the off hours for bored cause heads and ignorant schoolgirls and a way to gain air-time for a few publicity hungry pseudo intellectuals.


have i made any enemies today? you betcha.

LuckyG
07-20-2007, 02:50 AM
When I was a kid (a scant decade ago), tornadoes were something that happened in the Wizard of Oz. Now they're a weekly threat in our area. Something big is happening to our environment. I'm not too worried about the Earth - the Earth has survived much more catastrophic events than this. But life on Earth? It's probably going to be temporarily fucked. Mother Nature is pretty good at coming along and clearing the decks every once in a while. Humans have had a pretty good run.

I know that sounds harsh. Am I happy that we're going down the drain? Not really. Can I change the very probable eventuality that it's going to happen? Not at all. It's time for something else to take the podium; rats and cockroaches, all those small hardy species. It's kind of interesting to imagine how they'll adapt and possibly evolve. Who knows, maybe in a few million years the rats will be the ones experimenting on us! :D


I'm also interested in what the possible motivations for those interested in going green are. I've heard the anti-global warming people say that it's a big scam - what's the problem with a scam that conserves natural resources and cuts down on the obliteration of nature? I'd be interested in hearing the other side of the story.

delusionsofNORMALity
07-20-2007, 03:32 PM
I'm also interested in what the possible motivations for those interested in going green are. I've heard the anti-global warming people say that it's a big scam - what's the problem with a scam that conserves natural resources and cuts down on the obliteration of nature? I'd be interested in hearing the other side of the story.

what's at stake is power through control. the cause heads and school girls are merely along for the ride, but for those behind the scare tactics there is power to be had. once the blame has been placed firmly on consumers for this ongoing global catastrophe, the stage is set for the implementation of more laws and regulations to further restrict the freedoms of the populace. the money to be made through fees and overpriced green products is secondary to the power we would be handing over. freely making the choice to live a low impact lifestyle should of course be encouraged, but being forced into those choices is just another small tyranny on top of all the other little tyrannies.

the very idea that people should be forced to do something just because it is good for them is antithetical to the concept of personal freedom.