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blooregard
07-15-2007, 03:51 AM
The uncontested facts:

After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996 Tupac was allegedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital.
He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.

The suspicious facts:

Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day.

There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.

In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.

The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.

The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life. Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "Tupac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli".

The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Do you really think the video was shot 4 months ago, back in August of '96? Think about it.

In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.

A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occurred close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records. In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum.

In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)
First in the song ghost a line in the song says ??but everybody swear they know the ni**a that??s gonna kill ya? that may indicate that the person that ??shot? 2pac was hired by pac and faked his murder

Also in the song ghost he states that the only for me to come back is by makaveli could this mean that tupac died and makaveli was born?
Also he says Starin at the wall, heard a scream
Wake up in the mornin
See the blood in the hall from the murder scene and the only 2pac shooting witness was shot to death in a hallway something tells me that he might not be dead either but he might


There are no suspects for the shooting.

Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.

Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why didn't he wear it to a very public event like a Tyson fight? (Because he wanted to make it seem like he could be shot.)

In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death without an autopsy? Furthermore, it is illegal to bury someone who has been murdered without an autopsy.

The new Tupac album released on Nov. 5, and was originally supposed to be an EP of 6 songs, but was then extended to a full length album of 12 songs.

Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power.

In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.

The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.

Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.

Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7 It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.

There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"? The only thing mentioned is "EXIT TUPAC ENTER MAKAVELI".

The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry). In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus. Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5). Could Simon be a reference to Suge Knight(the executive producer of Death Row records)? Simon was renamed "Peter, the rock" (John 1:42).

In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "N*ggas Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that n*ggas' gonna get what they deserve." This phrase implies that Tupac knows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released.

In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death?

In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a muthaf*ckin' menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had b*tch *ss n*ggas on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED." This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli.

In Tupac's song "Life of an Outlaw" on the album The 7 Day Theory, he says "All for the street fame on how to be managed, to plan sh*t, 6 months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole and now I got it"-Life Of An Outlaw. This implies that Tupac planned his "death" in advance and now he is enjoying the success of his plan.

In Tupac's song "Made *****z" from the Supercop Soundtrack, he says "F*ck 'em all who don't understand my plot to get richer... Outlaw to the grave, a muthaf*ckin' made ***** I got a plan to get richer. Take my picture." Once again he mentions his "plan" to get rich.



In E-40's album Hall Of Game in the song "Million Dollar Spot" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says, "Fans can't understand my ghetto slang, so i evade and plot and plan a life of better things...." Once again Tupac mentions his "plan".

In Tupac's song "Ain't Hard 2 Find" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "I heard rumors I died, murdered in cold blood, tramatized pictures of me in my final states, you know momma cryed, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted." It seems as if Tupac foretold the future.

Scarface's song "Smile", which is a duet with Tupac, was supposedly recorded in September of '96, before Tupac was "shot". But the video for the song was released in May of '97 and the video depicts Tupac rapping while he appears to be crucified. At the end of the video, Tupac falls off the cross and stands up...which is another image of resurection. Towards the end of the video, it becomes slightly apparent that Tupac is actually portrayed by a look-alike. I still wonder, if he is really dead, then why do they keep making everyone so suspicious???
In the video for "I Wonder if Heaven Got a Ghetto" the town it takes place in is called Rukahs. "Rukahs" spelled backwards is "Shakur". The room he goes into with the girl is room number 7. The clock in the background at the end is at 4:03...the same time he officially died. More funny stuff from the video producers. My question still remains, why?

In Tupac's song "No More Pain" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation." Could this be a reference to Machievelli or Jesus?

On the cover of The 7 Day Theory, there is a picture of Tupac being crucified. This fits with the idea that Tupac "died" so he could be reincarnated as Makaveli. In the picture, there are five bullet holes. Interestingly, Tupac was "shot" 5 times.

The only witness to the shooting, Yafeu Fula, was found shot to death on Nov. 10th in a hallway of an apartment building in East Orange, NJ. Hmm...now no one will get any info out of him. (for more info on his death, click here.)

After the shooting of Notorious B.I.G. on March 9th, 1997 Lieutenant Wayne Petersen of the the homicide division of the Las Vegas Police Department who has been investigating Shakur's alleged killing said, "Before yesterday, I had never even heard of the Notorious B.I.G. There is no link between the two murders. We think the only connection is in the minds of the media. The media wants to connect the two." If you asked anyone who knows anything about the Tupac case, they would say something about the rivalry between Biggie and Tupac. How will the Las Vegas police ever solve the case if they don't know the basics? The answer is that they won't. C'mon guys, that is pretty pathetic.

one thing I forgot at the end of one of the album "better dayz" there is a track that is'nt on the cd case saying "expect me ni**a like you expect jesus to come back expect me ni**a I'm comin" and he released a number of tracks and vids under the makavelli odd don't ya think

andruejaysin
07-15-2007, 06:40 AM
Death hasn't hurt his career, I'll give ya that. I wish axl would fake his own death so we get a new gnr album every six months.

BobMarley91
07-15-2007, 06:57 AM
I'm going to give it a read later too much right now:)

BobMarley91
07-15-2007, 10:56 AM
You Have made some good points to me in this post

Kottonmouth Prince
07-15-2007, 11:07 AM
ive seen a video were this guy caught him on film but tu-pac spotted him and got pissed and walked torwrds him and it shut off so idk if hes dead or not

YouAintKnow
07-15-2007, 05:42 PM
ive seen a video were this guy caught him on film but tu-pac spotted him and got pissed and walked torwrds him and it shut off so idk if hes dead or not

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BobMarley91
07-15-2007, 07:09 PM
Show me this video

Jaerl
07-15-2007, 07:21 PM
I honestly believe he's alive.
He's a brilliant person, i've read alot bout it.
But that's just my opinion..

BobMarley91
07-15-2007, 07:23 PM
Now tht I think about it.I think he might just be because he talks about his "plan"

YouAintKnow
07-15-2007, 11:05 PM
Now tht I think about it.I think he might just be because he talks about his "plan"

Which is?

cannabis=freedom
07-15-2007, 11:45 PM
Yeah, he's alive, man, I smoked up with him, Elvis Presley and William Shakespeare last week.

They're all alive, guys.

BobMarley91
07-15-2007, 11:54 PM
Which is?

Listen to some of his songs of how he talks about getting rich and stuff idk its hard to explain w/o his music

YouAintKnow
07-16-2007, 12:57 AM
Listen to some of his songs of how he talks about getting rich and stuff idk its hard to explain w/o his music

Ah when I first clicked on this I didn't read all the way down. But I went back and read it all and it makes sense. i don't see any logical reason for doing it, but w/e.

cannabis campbell
07-17-2007, 05:49 AM
new albums new songs new lyrics new movies with him shouting shit like 2007 etc in them

makes you think..

budsmoker
07-17-2007, 06:22 AM
isn't their already a thread just like this

cannabis campbell
07-17-2007, 06:38 AM
I dont think so?? not a recent one anyway.

KingsBlend420
07-17-2007, 12:01 PM
http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/viewpoint/tupaccnn.jpg

KingsBlend420
07-17-2007, 12:14 PM
2PAC still live? (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4097051195398254605)

This looks like tupac too, but shit it's crazy to think about that.

Jah420
07-17-2007, 01:04 PM
Wow man thats blaggin me up.. could be true.. could just be yet another pumped up fabricated conspiracy.. but hell... if it is true :eek:

Maggz
07-17-2007, 01:47 PM
I believe Suge Knight was behind pac's death..he had him killed on some mafia type shit.

rastaman79
07-17-2007, 02:04 PM
who cares!!!!!!!! BOB MARLEY is dead for real! lets mourn a legend that has really passed away.tupac who?

dankitydank
07-29-2007, 12:57 AM
if he did fake his death hes gone to africa. like dave chappelle said, nobody knows who you are or that your famous, they dont care either. and its not hard to "blend in" in africa.

cannabis campbell
08-01-2007, 05:35 AM
Well, I dont really know 100% sure, but if hes dead then he wanted to make it look like hes still alive and if hes alive then he wanted to make it look like he was dead if that makes any sense.. dead or alive his music and lyrics live on!

420marijuana420
08-01-2007, 04:44 PM
It's really suspicious that there was no witness. He was shot on LAS VEGAS BOULEVARD. THE STRIP!. There's no witnesses? I think suge was responsible too.

onequestion
08-01-2007, 04:50 PM
hes in the cave with osama.

Bluntmasterbabe
08-01-2007, 04:52 PM
Have you guys seen the episode that Chapellle did about Tu-Pac? It was hilarious. Reading this thread made me think about it:D

I really don't think he's still alive, even though theres alot of "coincidences". I just don't think he could hide out for 10 or 12 years without being noticed. Especially with all of the papparazzi these days...jmo though;)

cannabis campbell
08-01-2007, 05:30 PM
Have you guys seen the episode that Chapellle did about Tu-Pac? It was hilarious. Reading this thread made me think about it:D

I really don't think he's still alive, even though theres alot of "coincidences". I just don't think he could hide out for 10 or 12 years without being noticed. Especially with all of the papparazzi these days...jmo though;)

Haha yeah that was funny...lol!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKB_zb03Ek

cannabisis4for20
08-03-2007, 01:44 AM
If you go back and listen to the songs it's like he was too accurate about how it would all happen.

Narf!
08-03-2007, 10:00 AM
Tupac was Ok as an MC. The world didnt miss a beat when he died. Better off dead as far as I'm concerned. Good music to dance to in the club. If he is alive it's a shame. Probably smokin blunts and sippin Hen with Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa. Biggie is a diffrent story.

zino11
08-08-2007, 01:26 PM
i think hes dead, i think diddy dit it though him and biggie cause after they were gone who got rich? DIDDY!

CYRAX
08-08-2007, 02:05 PM
i think hes dead, i think diddy dit it though him and biggie cause after they were gone who got rich? DIDDY!

Record sales has nothing to do with Tupac's death, Diddy was making hits at that time. Tupac even said the beef between him and Biggy was all for the money, I personaly think he was killed by gangster's that didn't think Tupac was as real as his lyrics made him look.