sog questions

[mrcalanchi]

ok i read the dutch seeds growers guide.. it says leave in six inch pot... but my adhd was kickin in at the same time and couldn't quite understand the whole theory... so does it stay in a six inch pot its entire life.. if so does that mean its stunts the growth in the six inch pot making it bud in two months verus waiting the whole 3-6 months in 5 gallons? can someone please explain this to me....... thanx in advance:thumbsup:

[davejohnwright]

Alright this is gonna be challanging to simplify to someone with ADHD so I'm gonna explain it in the best way I can.

[the yeag]

fuck all that wait to sog or scrog it until you flower and do the final transplant.

[davejohnwright]

SOG (sea of green) Is a method of growing where you usually start with a mother plant (mother plants are used to butcher down into cuttings), or you can use seeds, but it's less economical.
You generally plant the seeds/cuttings into small pots since your not going to need too much root space.
What your doing is only letting the plants go through the vegative cycle for a short time. This is accomplished by cutting down the light cycle from your origional vegative cycle of anywhere between 16/8-24/0(light/dark), down to 12/12 and a change in nutrients helps to initiate the flower cycle (thats when you get buds).
You want the plants to be small and uniform is size because your gonna end up with a shit load of em' which means that they are gonna get very good lighting, and you dont have to let the plants vegetate long if at all, your choice.

So to answer your questions, yes it does stay in thwe 6 in pot it's entire life, you want many small plants that will yield around a joint a piece.
No the pot dosent stun the growth, you just go into flower early on so it dosent get very big, if you had a plant in too small of a pot it would get what is known as root bound and die.
3-6 months in a 5 gallon will grow big plants (my growing preference) they get big because the extended light hours durring the vegative cycle lets the plants get big because they know winter is not gonna come soon. They start budding when you lower the hours of light to 12/12 because they think that winter is coming which they dont like, so thet produce buds to reproduce (basically they want to fuck so future generations of thier species can live on)

I may have confused you so feel free to ask more questions, me or someone else will try to answer them for you.
peace

[.:Karma:. o.O]

dave u made mah brain stop workin there for a min then i caught back up with you....lol but yea it makes perfect sense to me...nd soo my plants will get bigger because they are in 5 gallon buckets...but what if i get a big tub say 20 or 30 galllon can i grow more then 1 plant in it...???

[the yeag]

my version works great. just put a net over your plant in flower and grow it sideways then cut it free for the last week and a half. lots more budsites lots more buds even lighting

[.:Karma:. o.O]

thats the same as tiein it or no and i tie them down ina circle around the pot...usaully outside but the method works great...try it...like start in the center and just tie them down every soo often as they grow round the pot and it works good to really get every part of the plant wit light...hope that helped...

[stinkyattic]

You guys are all confusing SOG with SCROG and LST... Except for Dave, who just posted excellent information.

SOG you keep a SHITLOAD of tiny plants. If you go this route, do yourself the favor of checking out plant count laws in your area... SOG is the way to go in a hydro system, with the exception of DWC,, where you have the root-space to grow some big ass bushes like crispi and weedhound do. The drawback of SOG is that you really want to start with clones, all of the same variety. Most growers won't even be ABLE to do a sea of green until we have established a working mother and a viable cloning method. After that, though, it is very efficient, and used by cashcroppers.

SCROG like Yeag does is a FANTASTIC way to get a similar canopy effect, while keeping your plant count to a bare minimum. This makes caring for the plant easier too I think, but flushing is a BITCH unless you plan ahead and set the pot up on a milk crate with a tray under the crate itself to catch runoff. You MUST use a large pot for that method, because of the finish size of the plant, and like he says, you have to transplant BEFORE flowering because once the plant is trained into the net, you can't really do much with it.

Karma's tying is more just a simple LST. It's my preference for keeping mother plants, but I cut the ties off before flowering, and if I need to spread the canopy later, I do it by clipping the plant to a wire hoop. You don't want to bend any top shoots down after flower starts, although you CAN lean them gently over.

[PharmaCan]

my version works great. just put a net over your plant in flower and grow it sideways then cut it free for the last week and a half. lots more budsites lots more buds even lighting

Would that be a seine net? gill net?

PC :D

[stinkyattic]

lol Pharma you nailed it... what do you THINK the Pontiff of Pot aka The Salmon Stalker would use for SCROG?

[.:Karma:. o.O]

cant u use chicken wire...??? to do what yeag is talkin about...

[mrcalanchi]

thank you all of you... but sadly i had to toss my babies i am headed for michigan... from south texas.. for weeks i dunno.. my grandmother had a stroke... sad i am.. no bud tell arkansas fam has lb's... YEAY but my grandma she raised me im so sad.. i will return in time to start my grow all over.. as i have been saving seeds for months and have hundreds.... yay.... i have no life... but im off to see my most favorite woman in the WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mrcalanchi]

yeag your the man thou simplified for the ADHD people in mind thanx a million

[mrcalanchi]

cannabis bible 4 it just finished off the donkey good read

[.:Karma:. o.O]

the cannabible kicks soo much butt....i had every copy generously givin to me by a frend for cristmas but some one stole them before i had a chance to read all of them only got thru 1...hummm...im sad...i miss my books....they r the only frends who care about me...well i still have dean koonts...and sry bout ur grammy mine passed a couple years back but itll be ok hope she gets better...

[mrcalanchi]

thanx karma shes a headstrong lady.. she was already runnin the docs out of her room..;) hey i have the cannabible at home on my pc if you pm i dunno how on this board nub i am.. find away to exchange e mail with you, and ill send you a copy of the cannabible pdf.... it maybe more then a week that i can mail it to you but its worth the wait the donkey took me a week to dl but it was well worth it.... im out till tomorrow..
peace, buzz, and happiness to all......

[PharmaCan]

Mr. C - Best wishes for your grandma, Dude. It'll mean a lot to her that you dropped everything you are doing and rushed to be with her.

PC :thumbsup:

[davejohnwright]

Thats love man, right on!

[Chronisseur]

Family first:thumbsup:
Best of luck!!!!

[ydnelem]

what are the odds that i can get you to send me the pdf file of the cannabile? [email protected]

thanx.
Krickit