welll...im sry to everyone...

[.:Karma:. o.O]

im sry im an ass...i guess i havent learned manners...or life...nd ill just not post anymore...ill just ask questions...but on the growers side...ive made a better more stable...also bigger enviorment to house my plants and keep them safe and less visible....also some one put them outside in the heat of the desert nd burned them and now im gonna get them back to health...here are pics of the box and plants any suggestions or comments will be appreciated..

[stinkyattic]

Do you have holes drilled in the bottom?
Search through my recent posts for stuff on 5 gallon pails... they are great but present problems for a grower indoors.

[.:Karma:. o.O]

here are the rest...

[.:Karma:. o.O]

yup there are 4 holes each 3/4 inch...made sure nd threw some lil marble things in for drainage...and ancorage

[PharmaCan]

3/4 inch holes are kinda big - your marbles will all fall out and after a while you'll have lost all your marbles.

:S2:

Just a little levity to welcome you back kid. :D

BTW - Read Stinky's post very carefully and do exactly as she instructed you. One way that you will learn around here is to learn to follow instructions.

Good luck

PC :smokin:

[.:Karma:. o.O]

hahaha...lmao...i read them nd yea i have some paper towels holdin all my marbles in...lol till they rip...

[stinkyattic]

Well to save you a bit of hunting, here;s the thing...
5 gallon pails have a ridge under. It blocks drainage even WITH holes.
Holes in the sides TOO are helpful for drainage and aeration.
Pharma is laughing because you are going to be losing your marbles... ba da BING hahaha
MArbles are unnecessary. As long as the SOIL stays in there, you're fine. I drill 5/8" holes in the sides sometimes... but i think half inch is about right... no big deal on hole size, better too big than too small though and 1/2" on a big pail like that is TOO small!

[.:Karma:. o.O]

soo i should drill a few in the sides.../??? kuzz if it will help i will...

[stinkyattic]

Yes, it's almost a necessity. I would never grow in a 5 gallon pail without side holes, or even a 3 gallon pail. If you look at the pots that commercial greenhouses use, the holes are at the edge so there's always a bit exposed to the air.

[.:Karma:. o.O]

old ill get on it but where should i drill the holes at...like on the side way up or lower...yup im lost again...

[PharmaCan]

I've never grown in a 5 gal bucket, but I would assume the holes should be kinda close to the bottom?????

[PharmaCan]

It looks like you put some work into your grow chamber. An oscillating fan blowing on your plants would be a good addition. The plants love a breeze.

You really need to make the box light proof. light leaks will make your plant hermie.

PC :smokin:

[stinkyattic]

Low. Where the water runs down to. Like 4" up the sides seems to work fine.

[.:Karma:. o.O]

ok thnks nd how would i make the box light proof i have mylar jus didnt put it up also the weird lil fan hangin off the side of the box is a blower...it gives the plants a good breeze...cools the lights...nd also vents the box....

[stinkyattic]

Okay listen kiddo, a big part of growing successfully is the ability to solve problems. Lightproofing is one of the simplest problems you will encounter in your grow, so I'm gonna let you work this one out for yourself... I am available to contract a complete grow room setup, but I charge for it and expect the client to get the FUCK outta the way....

[PharmaCan]

OK - What you need to do is go to the cabinet/closet section and start reading everything you can about how people have put their grow boxes together. It's just too complicated to write an entire instruction manual just for you. YOU need to do the research and YOU need to do the independent research necessary.

You should also research light leaks so you will understand the importance of not having them.

And research fans so you will learn about ventilation and understand what you need and what is important.

Good luck

PC :thumbsup:

[PharmaCan]

Stinky - We must have typing simultaneously. LOL

PC :D

[.:Karma:. o.O]

k ill check around and read up...yea i always ask alot of questions and i always get annoying...see why i hate me...

[stinkyattic]

Oh.. and self-pity is NOT allowed.
:D

Edit: self-pity is allowed under specific circumstances, such as your dealer getting busted at the border with a couple ugly hookers, and a 50 lb brick that you already put down $$$ on .

[.:Karma:. o.O]

haha ok light leaks are when your lights are out nd there are places for light to seep in...???nd i know that fans premote strong healthy stalks vent to keep out lots of humidity nd keep the temps good...

[stinkyattic]

Light out doesn't matter. light in is bad.

Pharma, check your rep messages, and email Foxy willya?

[.:Karma:. o.O]

ok ill make sure to check the other spots but how do i vent if there arent holes...besides coverin them..???im dum...

[stinkyattic]

im dum...
My hand is getting sore from holding yours.
Have you ever heard of the term BAFFLE? (Not the effect that complex growing concepts have on nOObs, baffle the NOUN....)
YAY google....

[PharmaCan]

ok ill make sure to check the other spots but how do i vent if there arent holes...besides coverin them..???im dum...

First you read - then you do. You may be dumb, you may just be ignorant. Ignorance can be cured, with study - dumb pretty much just means you have to study longer and harder.

Stinky - Done - email sent.

PC :pimp:

[Weedhound]

Karma your soil plants look better than any I've ever grown in soil. Don't give up.....your plants will do fine. Keep learning.... ;)

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yea i googled baffle im not sure which 1 ur gettin at but yea i understand all of them nd im only askin to learn...but i guess i just wont ask either...and if im correct your talkin about a baffle like to keep the air flowing thru but the light from getting in...yea it would be nice to have...i cant afford it...soo...

[stinkyattic]

talkin about a baffle like to keep the air flowing thru but the light from getting in...yea it would be nice to have...i cant afford it...soo...

lean over here so I can beat you over the head with a DIY manual...

I can't afford to have a prefab grow either. I CAN however afford to go to home depot and stock up on cull lumber and sheetrock screws... charge up the battery on the cordless drill... and build shit my damn self.

seriously though if you have a couple grand to hire a contractor, you too can have a nice grow without having to use your brain.

didn't you ever play with legos when you were a kid, or build a fort out in the woods? this isn't all that different.

[.:Karma:. o.O]

well i built one too many thing out of legos and smashed them...nd have build plenty a fort...they all worked till mah dad smashed them up...nd the box i have now i went dumpsterdivin and found the wood blower and light hanger chain thing....i bearly have enough money for food...nd my fridge is like bone dry i can even post pics to prove it...but im doin the best i can for lights and materials ect....i can find sum pvc anc make tubes cum out of the thing if that will work...

[Weedhound]

lean over here so I can beat you over the head with a DIY manual...

Lol....Karma....relax. :cool: It's not worth getting crazy about. You have some nice plants there and all sorts of things to get into and get crazy about later. Don't try to solve everything at once. Do this.....:stoned:

[.:Karma:. o.O]

im tryin cant afford to buy that either...but thats what frends are for...i guess...lol n yea im sry to everyone again...its hard bein hungry all day...nd then havin to work ona empty stomach then get up and do stuff...im only 23 nd still have plenty of life but cant take it when things go wrong....

[twoguysupnorth]

if im getting this pvc would be perfect, ive seen others do this but i cant give you the post because it was a while ago and dont remember where. make the pvc with a 45 degree angle in it(or 2), or even a 90 deg. the curves in the pipe will keep the light from entering. and btw your plants do look very healthy.

[twoguysupnorth]

and karma, they have to have food banks or churches where you live because we have like 5 that help people out in need here on different days of the week. we arent a very big town either. get some help. its available. either call a church or look in the back of your paper. some provide meals and some send you home with a box of food.

[Weedhound]

I didn't know that....

[PharmaCan]

Karma - Lightproofing your box can be as simple as covering it when the lights are out - or as complicated as sealing every single crack.

Are you turning your lights on and off manually or do you have a timer? If you are turning them on and off manually then it will be easy to cover and uncover the box when you turn the lights off/on.

You seem to be pretty good at dumpster diving - I can't believe you found that fan - so go find some black visquine (plastic). Trying to lightproof any other way is going to cost money that you don't have and you need to spend your limited funds on other things. Like some decent nutrients - for you and the plants. :D

Take your fan and make it so that it is exhausting air - blowing the hot air out of the cab. The fan should be mounted close to the top of the cabinet because hot air rises.

Get an oscilating fan and put it in the cab to move air around.

So, anyway, scrounge some black plastic and scrounge another fan (the blade kind that blows air while it turns from one side to the other).

Are you using any nutrients at all with your plants right now?

PC :thumbsup:

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yea i got some mg for free its plant food and some stuff called color blossom the mg im not sure bout the mpk values but the bloom stuff is like 15 30 20 or sumthin...very very high ill dim it down if i use it during flower...nd ill try the black plastic but i can just use some rubber stripping i found way back when and it should work good...also i have not thermometer ill try nd find one nd nothing to tell me the humidity level...yea kinda a basic grow...hehehe nd ill try nd make a hydro setup for my next grow any suggestions on how to make it without lots of cash spent perferably with house hold items pumps i can get and watever else i need...

[PharmaCan]

Karma - Dude - You have already admitted that you aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Instead of spreading your valuable intellectual resources too thin, maybe you should think about concentrating on one thing at a time, get that thing accomplished, then move on to your next project.

Right now you have a grow cabinet that needs work and plants that will soon need a functioning grow cabinet so that they can flower. Unless you intend to just abandon the plant(s) you have now, maybe you should concentrate on what needs to be done to accomplish this grow, then think about changing to hydro once this grow is dialed in.

JMO

PC :thumbsup:

[Weedhound]

I have to agree with PC.....you just seems like you're trying to do too many things at once......concentrate on your nice plants and dinner and stuff like that.....gotta enjoy life Karma not rush your way through it. ;)

[.:Karma:. o.O]

yea i try,,,not as easy for me as u guys...i finnnnaly got that timer workin properly wat a load off my back nd i work 12 hours a day soo im busy alot....nd the rest of the day is sleep nd lil time to get food nd cook nd eat...i am not tryin to rush thru life im just tryin to live with what i got...the lil bit of money i have goes to my car and motorcycles nd plant....its hard just to afford my house with the low rent...im always lookin for donations and no matter how much io help people i never really recieve anything in return and the lil i do is soo much more then it seems...soo yea im not tryin to act like im rushin by everything just tired of life....

[stinkyattic]

..i am not tryin to rush thru life im just tryin to live with what i got...the lil bit of money i have goes to my car and motorcycles nd plant....its hard just to afford my house with the low rent...

Kiddo, you sound like you could use a switch in priorites. I have a bike myself, a Ninja, but the bike came AFTER my living situation was tight.

Toys like motorcycles are extraneous to survival... here's the order of business: Food first, then rent and utilities, then your main transporation (yes, SOME people just walk and bicycle to work), clothes, etc....

The rest is butter. If you want to spend money on expensive toys, you should not complain that you are lacking for the basics.

[.:Karma:. o.O]

well i dont ride it everysingle day and i meant that as like over a year period and that bike was givin to me by my father before his passing its also a kawasaki zx1200r also a ninja...and i have a nighthawk 750 i had sence i was young...the car is in ok condition its an rx7 and was my mothers till she bought a new car....and im not sayin they dont take up alot of money but they are pretty cheap to maintain...and i just got an offer for a company where my father used to work it pays 22 and hour workin 8 hour days...fulltime...this is a blessing i feel like crying...:D

[PharmaCan]

Karma - Congrats on the job!!!

Now, if you can only resist your urge to tell your boss how to run the company, you might be able to keep the job. :thumbsup:

PC :smokin:

[.:Karma:. o.O]

hahaha....yup ill try not too...hehe...but ill show him a few pointers...lol no hes a good frend because him and my father were co workers and co owners he just got all the drug tests and everything back and hes lettin me start workin there...ive had to stay clean almost a month now ima finnaly get to relax this is a GIANT load off my shoulders after the first week ima go stock my fridge...and i start tomarrow...

[davejohnwright]

hahaha....yup ill try not too...hehe...but ill show him a few pointers...lol no hes a good frend because him and my father were co workers and co owners he just got all the drug tests and everything back and hes lettin me start workin there...ive had to stay clean almost a month now ima finnaly get to relax this is a GIANT load off my shoulders after the first week ima go stock my fridge...and i start tomarrow...

I know exactly what your talking about. When I started growing indoors I was working a shit job at Carls Jr. barely scraping together a living. Life was pure poverty until a few months ago when I got a job working construction for $13/hour full time. Now I have my precious internet back after years! And I'm almost able to buy some new toys for my gardening pleasure.
Just a tip, hop in the dumpsters at construction sites, I see al kinds of cool shit I could use just get tossed out. I wish I could take it home, but I dont want to arise any suspicion of what I plan to do with it.

[.:Karma:. o.O]

oo really what kinda stuff nd the job im at is like maintenance in 711s and other places and we get some good throw aways like big air tight cabinets and the freezers at 711 with the drinks in them...yea that would make a badass grow cabinet...but i have to be careful after takin it they keep close eye on them but i can just ask my boss im sure hell be more then happy to give me trash...hehehe and i just made a new mod to mii box i put in an air extractor....its from a air duct thing and i just modded it and threw it on sry cant post pics but ill get them up asap...