What strain could this be?

[JerzeeAmbeez]

Real talk...I got the seeds from a friend that worked at a lab...;)
Crossed 2 strains for 4 yrs.. now

But I have no idea what it could be anyone have any ideas?


*lady*
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*monster*
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*The family*
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[stinkyattic]

looking good but a bit root bound. time for new pots. the ones you are using that have built-in drip trays do not allow proper drainage and can lead to problems. other than that, the grow looks good but you can't tell the strain from pics... just be happy they are so healthy.

[JerzeeAmbeez]

Aww thanx! I don't really have any room for bigger pots... I'll see tho if I can make some.... I think i need more lights. I use 100w HPS,70w HPS, and a 150w CFL

[MistaGanja]

hella Greeeeen

[Subjekt]

looking good but a bit root bound. time for new pots. the ones you are using that have built-in drip trays do not allow proper drainage and can lead to problems. other than that, the grow looks good but you can't tell the strain from pics... just be happy they are so healthy.

word^^ to dat....

shit looks healthy....but what if she had some sorta bowl to catch the water and place the pots in, would that be fine? Or do you just need non drip tray pots?

pretty sure you can use a bowl tho..... dont mind me :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

the problem with drip tray pots is that they don't drain fast enough, and moisture sits in the tray (bugs and disease), and the holes clog easily (saturated soil, root rot).
I recently rescued a plant from a friend who was using that sort of pot- the plant looked like shit, weird symptoms that could have been salt tox, but it didn't respond to flushing... I decided a repot would fix the problem, and when I dumped the plant out, HALF the soil was swampy muck and the roots had not penetrated, so a plant that looked like it was the right size for the pot was in fact quite badly rootbound.
Plant is fine now. No more drip trays! :D Just put them on like a cookie sheet or something.

[Subjekt]

good pointer on the bugs & disease(s) ...

oh and i wouldnt say my 411 is 100% good but to me it looks like your strains could be haze (cuz of the lime green in the center) , most plants with the lime green center turn out to be haze...shit, rubb the stem and tell by the smell....should be strong & sweet..... :rasta:

Well good chat:rasta:

[stinkyattic]

lime green in the center is typical of most strains in early flower when you switch ferts to high P low N, a symptom of mild Nitrogen deficiency as the plant enters a growth spurt, and newest growth is lighter green than the rest of the plant in ANY growth stage...

Haze? *sigh* that's right, that's some fire-ass purple haze dro yo.

[Subjekt]

well like i said my info isnt 100% accurate but most plants "I'VE" seen that started like that (lime green in the center) turned out to be haze plants,but shit, i wanna see what it turns out to be...could be wrong all the way....what strains are the grandparents of these plants (or your first generation)? you can figure what strain it is from whatever it was you were growing first...how does it smell? bet its sweet/fruity but has a spicy scent, wich would prolly make it most sativa than indica....if the buds are small then its most likely haze ...shit i hope it is..lol ...one of my favs ->

fire ass purple haze dro???? *Day Dreams* thats the shiznit.....the high is so laid back and cool..on some snoop dogg shit.:rastasmoke:

[stinkyattic]

Subjekt I hope you are joking. Even so, please let people know because someone might get confused by your post.

Plants don't 'turn out' to be Haze... they START that way and END that way, period. The DNA does not change over the course of the grow.

The only way to know what strain you have is to get seeds or cuttings from a reputable source, or inbreed your own line until it is stable enough to receive a name.

Small, sweet 'golf ball' buds can be borne on plants other than Hazes. Trust me, I'm running one of those lines right now, and it's NOT a Haze! And the Hazes that I have either grown or seen friends grow had perfectly respectable sized buds!

Bud size is determined not only by strain, but by your pruning method. A single cola plant will grow a large main bud, while a big ol' bush with lots of branches will bear more, but smaller, buds.

And finally, dude... the fire ass dro comment was a JOKE. Purple Haze is a myth, even though some breeder has recently introduced something he calls purple Haze to the market... a transparent attempt to get money out of gullible nOObs who don't know a thing about strain history.

[Subjekt]

oh nah, it came out the wrong way...sorry for that but i digg what you sayin-

[JerzeeAmbeez]

Wha? Well I don't read about weed I grow it! but one of my plants is lime green and it came from a bag weed of a dime of haze... I call it little piff,( a haze for sure crossed with my unknown strain, lil piff has the same father as monster and lady)
But the strain I made, my strain(monster and lady) comes from... for sure I crossed a hydro(short,stumpty dark green plant) with a light green haze plant(large,long budding,skinny leaf) that how i got the strain of monster and lady...... I know strains come in different colors and types and all but I do love a lime green skunk or lime green dro over any....I "think" my friend said she gave me 4-way(the light green haze looking plant) and #1 hydro(my short stumpy,dark green plant) so I'm not sure but That is what I've been crossing for the last 3-4 yrs over again ;)---the grandparents

but anyway here is a pic of lil piff and skinny- they are the same age, but skinny is my strain and Lil piff is a new cross with skinny's father, so they are related lol sounds funny...they sprouted the same day,same age, but lil piff is lime green....? go figure:hippy:


*lil piff*
*was born this color, dark like its father and light green like its mother*
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*Skinny*
*Was born dark green, large leafs, it mommy a hydro and its daddy a hydro/haze(don't ask but it is) they have the same father all of them even monster and lady..(i'll draw a picture one day)
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[the image reaper]

first, your pictured plants ('lil piff' and 'skinny'), are Indica-dominants, DEFINITELY NOT a Haze, not even close ... second, you obviously know little, or nothing about cannabis ... if you pay attention to what StinkyAttic tells you, you will LEARN ... she knows her stuff ... :smokin:

[JerzeeAmbeez]

wow buddy I love and respect sticky I understand her point she right but I'm telling you what I have noticed over the years...AND hold your horses if you would have took the time to read the thread you would have noticed that I "made" Lil piff by crossing a haze plant(mother) with a hydro plant(father) so of course it is gonna be indica dominant....duh...and I don't know everything about bud But I do I have alot alot of experience with growing (smoking for 10 and growing for 6) I harvest 3 times a year AND OUT 9 PLANTS IN MY CURRENT GROW I GOT 7 LADIES SO FAR...AND I MADE THE SEEDS SO I MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT ( right?) I just don't have enough room and lights buddy ok:hippy:
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here is a pic of my last grow...the big plant in front is "piff" the mother of lil' piff... I got the seed from a bag of haze that I smoked and trust me it was haze, the one next to her is Skinny's mother(I'll use propper terms a indica dominant plant)...and the father is in the back somewhere :) but he also indica dominant but I'm positive he had some sativa in him.....there is another female(lady and monster's mother) in there somewhere but I would say she was 40% sativa and 60% indica
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peace and love:hippy:

[JerzeeAmbeez]

Now I thought it was N problem but they all have the same soil (miracle grow prem.) none of the others came out like "lil" piff...any other reasons stinky?

*piff*
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*the family*
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[Subjekt]

hmmm very good point and i really didnt know purple haze was a "myth" i thought purple haze was introduced by crossing Holland's Hope with Skunk#1, but like i said before and peepz prolly didnt read it "my info is not a 100%"...shit maybe not even 50... :hippy:



thanks for the lesson Stinky

[the image reaper]

I don't wanna beat this into the ground :beatdeadhorse:, so I won't comment beyond this: you said
Quote: I "made" Lil piff by crossing a haze plant(mother) with a hydro plant(father) so of course it is gonna be indica dominant....duh..." Unquote ...

OK, first, HAZE is Sativa. Period. and the 'hydro' father ..??.. hydro is a method of growing, not a strain ... so, from your own statement, why would you say it's "gonna be indica-dominant", when the MOST it could be is a 50/50 hybrid ?? ... duhhh :D

[stinkyattic]

lil piff has the leaf structure that you see in strains like Northern Lights.
'haze' and 'dro' are all too often just terms tacked on to baggies by shady dealers, or dealers whose connect is themselves so full of shit it makes their eyes brown.

If you truly had gotten your paws on a haze to make that cross, you would not even then be able to say indica dominant since Haze is a very Sat-leaning plant. Oh- the 'haze' that you used in the cross- how long did it take to finish flowering?

the newly released purple haze wannabe... well, yeah I guess it exists lol but just because you call your kid Jesus does not make him the Messiah!!! (This is like the 3rd opportunity I've had to tell y'alls that)

That pale plant could be that way due to overwatering, or it's just a heavy feeder. It's a little droopy so I'm gonna go with overwatering.

Making seeds yourself is chill but it's more your growing method in early seedl,ing stage that determines male/.female ratios. Unless ou are growing fem beans by selfing a hermi.

Oh well. Overall the family looks happy enough so be content that you have healthy plants without trying to make them all fancy by calling them 'haze'.

[JerzeeAmbeez]

When I say "hydro" I don't mean hydroponic, Where I'm from when we say "Piff" we mean haze for example over here we got : Sour D,Silver Haze,AK,Kush(all types) and when I said "Hydro" for example I mean bud like: Straw Cough,Cotton Candy, B.C(Beasters) So when I said it's father was a hydro I ment a dro plant(indica) even if its 50/50 we still just call it dro....that's all nothing more nothing less and that would make lil piff a 50/50 cross I just wish she will also be female, and she will taste like her mother

[stinkyattic]

It would seem that among stoner kids, language has become a barrier to comprehension.

[Markass]

When I say "hydro" I don't mean hydroponic, Where I'm from when we say "Piff" we mean haze for example over here we got : Sour D,Silver Haze,AK,Kush(all types) and when I said "Hydro" for example I mean bud like: Straw Cough,Cotton Candy, B.C(Beasters) So when I said it's father was a hydro I ment a dro plant(indica) even if its 50/50 we still just call it dro....that's all nothing more nothing less and that would make lil piff a 50/50 cross I just wish she will also be female, and she will taste like her mother

you've been growing for six years??? 'dro plant (indica)...' that did me in..all I have to say is...dang and I agree with stinky

btw, strawberry cough is a 3/4 sativa, bud...how much research have you actually done? cause don't believe jack shit of what people that are selling you this stuff tells you...a guy here in town goes to the city to get 'purp' it's purp okay, but it's for damn sure not purple...but he pays $600 an ounce because it's 'purp' you have gotten a bunch of misinformation from dealers or something dude

[JerzeeAmbeez]

"If you truly had gotten your paws on a haze to make that cross, you would not even then be able to say indica dominant since Haze is a very Sat-leaning plant. Oh- the 'haze' that you used in the cross- how long did it take to finish flowering?" (I'm not sure how to use the quote button)

Well lil' piff's father was a mix I almost positive(50/50) but to me it was a dro(indica) real classic dro taste.....But its mother the seed from that dime I got MAN THAT PLANT TOOK FUCKING FOREVER TO BUD....AND IT STILL REALLY DIDN'T BUD...LOL I was kinda mad at it....It was born in Jan. 2007 and I smoked it in June...I swear man I never had a plant take that long I had to keep it in that dark for longer time then the others I went threw like 2 harvest before I smoked it It was all big and skinny it took up most of the room, but grew really quick but after that I felt like it was the long ride home(when it budd)....But it was strong tho very skimpy tho :( the strain I've been growing for awhile is really easy for me to grow..the grow fast and bud pretty quick,...

[the image reaper]

I'm almost speechless ... feeling my age ... the future weeps ... :smokebong:

[stinkyattic]

Jerzee I almost can't even help you if you keep calling things by the worng names.
Lose the 'dro' and 'haze'.
Dro, to a real grower, simply means anything hydroponic. Please stop making generalizations about the strain based on a word for a cultivation technique. Please? Pretty please?
You're making yourself very hard to understand.

Long flowering is a sativa trait.

[JerzeeAmbeez]

"Making seeds yourself is chill but it's more your growing method in early seedl,ing stage that determines male/.female ratios. Unless ou are growing fem beans by selfing a hermi."

Yeah man... I used the hermi with the female...but the seeds I got from the girls most of them were females, but I grew a boy(the father of my plants now) So I was confused cause I thought a hermi and female make all girls and hermi...not a full grown boy plant but When I crossed that boy with the females.... I have been getting all female seeds so far...I'm waiting for a boy to grow out the batch(I need'em for more seeds)

My friend who stole the seeds from that lab studies "genetics" some CSI shit but she said something like when the seeds start to turn or get color or strips at the begining they have the "recessive gene"...which are suppose to be female becuase of some hormone that hasn't taken over she said seeds will be smaller and she said if you wait until the end of your harvest to get the seeds the seeds will be larger but they will be "dominate gene" the are most likely to be male because of that hormone.... she also said the "dominate gene" seeds will have the treats of its father and the "recessive gene" seeds will have treats of both parents but more of the mother......people don't yell at it this is what i was told... So when I grow seeds I take the boy pollen from the boy, I use a paper clip to pollenate the female hairs as soon as I see them really coming out...I wait until the female buds a little bit after half way into its budding before I start pulling seeds...I always pull one to see how it looks...then I wait and pull some more(they should come off easy..don't pull them if they aren't ready) and that's what I do.....so NO ONE start yellin at me this is what I was told and out of 9 plants 7 girls...

[JerzeeAmbeez]

"Making seeds yourself is chill but it's more your growing method in early seedl,ing stage that determines male/.female ratios. Unless ou are growing fem beans by selfing a hermi."

Yeah man... I used the hermi with the female...but the seeds I got from the girls most of them were females, but I grew a boy(the father of my plants now) So I was confused cause I thought a hermi and female make all girls and hermi...not a full grown boy plant but When I crossed that boy with the females.... I have been getting all female seeds so far...I'm waiting for a boy to grow out the batch(I need'em for more seeds)

My friend who stole the seeds from that lab studies "genetics" some CSI shit but she said something like when the seeds start to turn or get color or strips at the begining they have the "recessive gene"...which are suppose to be female becuase of some hormone that hasn't taken over she said seeds will be smaller and she said if you wait until the end of your harvest to get the seeds the seeds will be larger but they will be "dominate gene" the are most likely to be male because of that hormone.... she also said the "dominate gene" seeds will have the treats of its father and the "recessive gene" seeds will have treats of both parents but more of the mother......people don't yell at it this is what i was told... So when I grow seeds I take the boy pollen from the boy, I use a paper clip to pollenate the female hairs as soon as I see them really coming out...I wait until the female buds a little bit after half way into its budding before I start pulling seeds...I always pull one to see how it looks...then I wait and pull some more(they should come off easy..don't pull them if they aren't ready) and that's what I do.....so NO ONE start yellin at me this is what I was told and out of 9 plants 7 girls...:hippy:

[stinkyattic]

Yeah man... I used the hermi with the female...but the seeds I got from the girls most of them were females, but I grew a boy(the father of my plants now) So I was confused cause I thought a hermi and female make all girls and hermi...: You're right, a hermi makes all girls- the male you got from the plant you pollinated with hermi pollen probably came from excess pollen left over from a male or something.


My friend who stole the seeds from that lab studies "genetics" some CSI shit but Your friend should not be risking her job, or the research the lab is working on. I run a research lab at a University and feel very strongly about this. REsearch ethics are not something to be taken lightly. Fucking with the materials can jeopardize the project. That's NOT cool.


she said something like when the seeds start to turn or get color or strips at the begining they have the "recessive gene"...which are suppose to be female becuase of some hormone that hasn't taken over she said seeds will be smaller and she said if you wait until the end of your harvest to get the seeds the seeds will be larger but they will be "dominate gene" the are most likely to be male because of that hormone.... she also said the "dominate gene" seeds will have the treats of its father and the "recessive gene" seeds will have treats of both parents but more of the mother......:
I'm not yelling at you... She, however, is not only a thief, but full of shit to boot. Pattern and color and size of a seed are strain dependent and have nothing to do with gender. That is a myth. Furthermore, gender is determined by the presence or absence of a Y chromosome- that's all! The reason hermi pollen from a female makes all female offspring is that the MALE contributes the Y, and any F-F crosses do not have it.

So when I grow seeds I take the boy pollen from the boy, I use a paper clip to pollenate the female hairs as soon as I see them really coming out...I wait until the female buds a little bit after half way into its budding before I start pulling seeds...I always pull one to see how it looks...then I wait and pull some more(they should come off easy..don't pull them if they aren't ready) :
Paper clip technique is good.
Don't bother pulling seeds- I let my seed crops ripen on the plant and at harvest time, hang them over a lasagne pan to catch seeds as they fall out, and the ones that don;'t fall out, I knock out during the second trim- the manicure, when I remove anything sticking out and making the buds look less pretty.

[JerzeeAmbeez]

I'm sorry people I don't want to confuse anyone...sticky,reaper,mark I won't use Dro or Haze terms...I now know I am wrong for that...I know....Yes I am a young stoner kid, yes the language my generation uses for things can be confusing but I know someone understands what I'm talking about(probably in my age group) I don't believe the names what the dealers tell us but I have smoked enough buds(hippy weed competitions) to try to make some difference between them....I try I would not be in this guessin mess if I new the strains I had...:(
And to Mark I started growing Ari the a while then a hippy gave me northern lights( nice plants but I nuked them when they started budding)..then I got the seeds from the lab then came my seed from that piff I got thus my 6 years......I try and use many different techquines from piss for N, potting soil outside dirt from compost to sunlight,HID,CFL'S, egg shells in water, bone meal,peat moss outside rain/snow...tap water,fertz from grandma gardens...vingar and baking soda(Fake CO2) But in all I do pretty well when it comes to taking care of plants .....I never really read too much about strains but more on the process of growing and its stages...I just want a strain that I know what it is...I'm tired of growin not knowing what I'm going the only thing I can do is compare the weed I grow to what I have smoked.....And I'm soory for the use of wrong terms

[the image reaper]

Stinky knows her stuff, she can help you a lot ... and, no problem with the apologies, etc.., I was just totally confused by your terms (yeah, I'm old) ... I should probably just crawl out onto the ice flow (hey, Stinky, do ya like my 'Alaska/Eskimo' lore ?) ... :D

[JerzeeAmbeez]

:hippy:Reaper you not old...the Grim reaper is old...lol
but I'm learning....smoking good convo we all had....
But here some pic in the mean time I changed the pots..still got some drain one but they were free so what da hell there bigger! :)

*bud about to smoke a dime*(so sad round these days)
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*the family*
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[the image reaper]

nice looking family, you have there ... :thumbsup:

[JerzeeAmbeez]

umm I kinda messed up guys....My bottom leaves are falling off and turning yellow...and they got some white little spots on them...damn

The only thing I can think of is when I changed the pots I used some old dirt that might had been a little acidic But it doesn't look too bad unless It gets worse I'mma wait and post pic later

[JerzeeAmbeez]

Damn...I started making careless mistakes on the ladies.....1st I burt them a lil bit when I gave them too much nutes, so I flushed them but them the leaves started turning yellow and falling off I assume from over watering them. Then I added some eggshell water and rain water when I gave them some piss water(lol) And now there back to green but I noticed some very small white spots on some of the leaves of my girls so when I cut the leaf and turned it over it had all these little white and black bugs over it...Now I never had spidermites but I sure cause the damn things are making webs.... What should I DO GET SOME PEST STRIPS, OR WILL SOAPY WATER WORK? ANY ADVICE?:hippy:[attachment=o149743][attachment=o149744][attachment=o149745][attachment=o149746][attachment=o149747]

[JerzeeAmbeez]

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I don't know why lil piff stopped growing...it was outside in some bad weather not too much sun so I brought her inside? I don't know what's wrong with it....It doesn't get too much light anymore
*LIL PIFF*
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:rastasmoke: