mollasess

[dragonbud]

this is all new to me ,so what are the benefits of this does it make the taste better?:smokin::stoned:

[stinkyattic]

It's a simple, cheap, organic carbon source.
Resins and terpenes (give it the aromas) are big molecules with lots of carbon forming their structure..
Giving the plant the building blocks will make it easier for it to produce more resins.

[the image reaper]

molasses is a sugar, 'carb-booster' ... helps the plant build bigger buds ... as with anything, it will be over-done ... I'm using 'Plantation' brand' organic, blackstrap molasses (unsulfured) ... does the same thing as the high-dollar 'carb-loader' stuff ... one teaspoon dissolved in a gallon of water, once during the last few days of vegging, and again in the middle of flowering, is how I use it ... if overdone, can be a sticky mess, and can definitely attract insects ... :smokin: ... damn, Stinky, ya posted while I was typing again ( I am NOT stalking you :D) ...

[stinkyattic]

damn, Stinky, ya posted while I was typing again ( I am NOT stalking you :D) ...
Awww I'm disappointed. I need some damn excitement in my life. My evening is going to consist of a bottle of dip-n-grow, 10 overgrown moms, a case of rapidrooters, and a pint of ben & jerry's.
Party hearty!!! :mad:

[the image reaper]

( I'd say I love you, but then, you'd know I was only after your ice cream ... ;) )

[dragonbud]

cheers for the advise
can you use normal stuff from the supermarkt or should i go to a grow shop?

[the image reaper]

grocery store, for sure ... would probably cost triple at a grow-store ... there's different kinds, so be sure you get 'blackstrap', 'un-sulphured' ... :smokin:

[BUZz UK]

so it boosts the carbs for the plant then? Any effect of the taste or smoke of the buds would you say?

[hydrocannabis]

ooooo I wanna try this blackstrtap stuff.

so is what U all R saying is that it will help my buds grow bigger?

well if thats the case then I want some for sure.

[PharmaCan]

Awww I'm disappointed. I need some damn excitement in my life. My evening is going to consist of a bottle of dip-n-grow, 10 overgrown moms, a case of rapidrooters, and a pint of ben & jerry's.
Party hearty!!! :mad:

I'm doing the same darn thing - only with three moms and no Ben & Jerry's.:(

That does it! I'm going to the store right now for ice cream AND molasses.

PC :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

I have never actually done a test to see if molasses adds WEIGHT but it certainly enhances the natural flavors of the plant.

The cloning/hedonistic ice cream and weed party went well. I got a surprise visit from the girl who rescued my genetics several months back, and we killed a pint of Cherry Garcia frozen yoghurt and a couple grams of some mystery BOG strain I'm running.

It was lovely and next time you folks are in the area we'll make it a party, eh?

[the image reaper]

this 'Daddy's Girl' grow I just completed, is the first time I used the blackstrap molasses ... it is also the heaviest, densest buds I've ever harvested, BUT, I have no proof as to whether it was the molasses, or the strain ... although I did not treat my plants correctly, because of space restrictions this time around, I still got great buds ... 'coulda been the molasses, could a been the lasses' asses' ... :D

[dragonbud]

hey thanks for the advise i'm very flattered at the amount of experience involved in this thread so cheers for your time.
But what are your dosing rates?:stoned:and is it nice on toast:D

[dragonbud]

grocery store, for sure ... would probably cost triple at a grow-store ... there's different kinds, so be sure you get 'blackstrap', 'un-sulphured' ... :smokin:

blackstrap i wonder if we have a different name over here cos that sounds like a cool sex toy:D

[stinkyattic]

Dosing rates, since it isn't a fertilizer you can be less precise, but anywhere from a teaspoon to a tablespoon per gallon is perfectly fine.
It's horrid on toast but lovely in coffee, making your coffee into "coffee Creole".

[twoguysupnorth]

blackstrap is just a style/type of molasses, it is refined less than other types. no matter the brand name they should have a blackstrap type since it is a byproduct of other molasses. molasses is a good addition to BBQ sauce too. and ginger cookies of course, you can find it in your baking section. or if you are a horse you might like it on your oats in the morning lol.

[stinkyattic]

The imporant bit is that the less-refined 'blackstrap' does not contain excess sulfur.
Oh, and it should be a bit cheaper lol.
I had ginger cookies for breakfast this morning with my coffee! MMM delicious.

[dragonbud]

how often do you give it to the plants then ,every water or now and again. And i may try baking a few cookies(i love that, we say biscuits)but funny we always say choc chip cookies,but if we have a cup of tea we have a biscuit lol:D:stoned:

[stinkyattic]

I give it exactly whenever I remember to lol...
Once of twice a week should be fine.
Remember molasses is not an exact science! :D
Yeah choc chip cookies go badly with tea- lemon 'biscuits' are better! Maybe the rule should be, if it goes with tea, it's a biscuit... if it goes with coffee, it's a cookie? lol

[.:Karma:. o.O]

will hookah molasses work...???i have a whole bunch of it in different flavors...or should i get blackstrap...???

[hydrocannabis]

so does molasses just help give the buds produce more trich. or can it also make the buds bigger or more potent.

I am a little confused on the subject of what it really does to help the plant.

[stinkyattic]

Karma- that's about the most expensive molasses source I can imagine, lol... just go to the grocery store

HyrdroC- Image reaper's post above discusses that. The consensus is increased production of hydrocarbons... both potency and aroma are HC dependent. Actual WEIGHT, no one wants to say for sure, lol. I have never done a controlled experiment and don't intend to... just the stuff is so damn cheap, you know, who cares if it pays for itself in weight? :D

Healthy plants yield most.

[hydrocannabis]

oops I just read what stinky said. that it gives the buds more resin.

so if it gives the buds more resin then the buds should then be more potent.

right or not.

[.:Karma:. o.O]

i know it is expensive $2.50 for a lil box...lol i don smoke the hookah anymore but if its good to use ill start...im just tryin to get as much info soo i can be an independant grower...

[evertking]

In a recent issue of hightimes Jorge makes a claim that buds swell up to 20% when mollasess is added to irrigation water during the last 4 weeks of flowering..

[.:Karma:. o.O]

really i tryed gettin hightimes but no stores carry it around me...nd if im using molasses for a hookah how much do i put like in weight...???

[xmk]

i have the newest version of the growers bible, im not sure what page its on but there is a picture of bud from a plant that molasses was used on next to a picture of a bud from the same strain with no molasses and the bud that had molasses swelled noticibly bigger than the one that didnt, doesnt say anything about weight but the bid swelled much larger than the plain one

[brussels]

My experiences with molasses have been:
For outside grows I start at two weeks growth, mixing two Tsp/Gal as a watering agent through week four. (I don't transplant outside until week four) I then switch to one Tbs/gal weekly for the remainder of growth between watering. The last two weeks (three weeks for a kush) before harvest, I pump up the molasses anywhere from 2 to 4 Tbs/Gal depending on the simple appearance of the individual plants. We've noticed that this kind of acts like 'carb-loading', and makes a noticeable difference, increasing bud size at a noticeable rate.

For indoor grows, we simply half these measurements.

I also use molasses in a folar spray in conjunction with King Neptune's seaweed/fish products, adding one tsp. molasses. Once every two weeks.

And before you ask, yes, we have done controlled tests with inside grows. Molasses works. It's been a bit more difficult to test outside with the many variables involved concerning plant placement, soil, and light. I am however a true believer.

As a new member to this forum, I looked for interesting and helpful posts of others, and found an older one by 3LB concerning the magic of molasses. They confirmed our findings, and more....Again, this is just my experience. B

[Pinelocked]

Good info Thanks Yall

[Pinelocked]

Good info, Thanks Yall

[hydrocannabis]

so molasses doen make the buds get bigger.

so I can use it on my 4 week flowering sativa plant. right?
so how much do I need to use.

[Pinelocked]

Wow, Im so high I posted the same message twice. Sorry

[qdavid]

I went to 3 diff. grocery stores for molasses. All any of them had was Grandma's. Usually just the orange bottle. One store had both the orange and a green one. I just got a bottle of the orange stuff until I can find some plain blackstrap.

[stinkyattic]

One of those should say unsulphured on it. That's what you want.

[evertking]

qdavid, the orange one should say unsulphured on it..
Good luck!

[evertking]

Hydro, you can use molasses up until harvest if you wanted to..
at a rate of about 1 TBS per gallon in room temp water.

[hydrocannabis]

ok but does it make the buds grow bigger also?

[qdavid]

Yay, unsulfured.

[hydrocannabis]

ok so I just bought some blaqckstrap mollass. the unsulohured kind.

now how do I use it?

and is it suposto be this thick.

thanks.

[the image reaper]

yup, you got the right stuff ... doubtful if there is a 'right' or 'wrong' way ... I pour a 'glob' (technical laboratory term for 'about a tablespoon' :D) into a gallon of water, immediately shake it up, so it doesn't stick to the bottom ... I feed it to the plants once in late vegging, and once in mid-flowering ... and, I don't know why :jointsmile: ... oh yeah, it acts as a 'carb-loader' to build denser buds :jointsmile:

[hydrocannabis]

thanks for the info.

[dragonbud]

cool info

[the image reaper]

since I posted that previous '1 tablespoon/gallon- suggestion, I have read a few threads, where the growers were dosing much heavier, like 3-4 tablespoons per gallon, and much more often ... I haven't dosed that heavily yet, so I won't recommend one way or the other, until I try it myself ... something for me to research further... one thing I neglected to mention, avoid any spillage ! ... it will really attract the bugs, they have sweet-tooths :D

[the image reaper]

BlueBear posted an excellent molasses thread awhile back, here it is: http://boards.cannabis.com/organic-growing/84893-3lb-s-molasses-manual-growers-guide-soil-sweeteners.html
lots of good reading there ...
... also, remember that chlorinated water will kill all those beneficial organisms you are trying to feed with the molasses, so plain water, only ! ... :jointsmile:

[evertking]

Reaper.. i use a product called Plant Success(Mycorrhizal Fungi). Would chlorinated water kill them as well?.. I TRY and let my water sit for a few days.. but sometimes forget :stoned:.

[the image reaper]

Reaper.. i use a product called Plant Success(Mycorrhizal Fungi). Would chlorinated water kill them as well?.. I TRY and let my water sit for a few days.. but sometimes forget :stoned:.

I have been using Fox Farms' 'Happy Frog Soil Amendment', which has a 'mychorrizial' (mispelled, probably), additive, I love the stuff ... I guess its basically the rotted bark, etc., found at the foot of trees, or something :wtf: ... it does state on the bag, that it has a shelf-life, being a living organism ... I should think chlorine would be harmful to that, as well ... my city water here is highly chlorinated, and high-acid pH, (my Reverse-Osmosis filters make it even more acidic, since it also removes calcium) ... :smokin:

[evertking]

You get a glass of water at my house and thats all you can smell...
Thanks.

[1chronic]

I find collecting rain water is a much easier solution to dealing with chlorinated tap water.

[the image reaper]

I find collecting rain water is a much easier solution to dealing with chlorinated tap water.

oh yeah, rainwater is great ! (I think) ... I have always been told it is the same as distilled water, but I'm not so sure about that ... after all, it will pick up pollutants, and minerals, etc., on the way down (remember Canada's 'acid rain' years ago ?)... I wonder the pH, I should have tested it yesterday ... (we got rain here yesterday, first in about 3 months) ... :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

Rain water will carry dissolved gases that go into equilibrium with Nitric and Sulfuric acids, the ratios dependent upon the SOURCE of the pollution near where the storm system originated- whehter it is primarily auto exhuast or coal burning industry.
You can use it, but test the pH first and adjust if you need to.

[GoldenGoblin]

Rainwater is usually on the acidic side if I remember.

nice info on the molasses

/stinky lol are you sure your not extremely educated? Sure sounds that way.
hehe

[stinkyattic]

Well I DO run an analytical chemistry lab... one of the projects we had a couple years ago was testing snowmelt samples from different regions of the country to determine pollution sources carried by weather patterns... I just did the testing but never saw the end result. It was a neat change of pace though from the usual surface water pollution stuff we'd been doing.

[the image reaper]

Well I DO run an analytical chemistry lab... one of the projects we had a couple years ago was testing snowmelt samples from different regions of the country to determine pollution sources carried by weather patterns... I just did the testing but never saw the end result. It was a neat change of pace though from the usual surface water pollution stuff we'd been doing.

yeah, but can ya COOK ? .... :silly: (smartass no-good chauvinistic PIG) ... :S2:

[smokenss]

is molassess wat we ozzies would call goldern syrup? b4 joining this forum i thort that molassess was hores food.


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[PharmaCan]

is molassess wat we ozzies would call goldern syrup? b4 joining this forum i thort that molassess was hores food.


:smokin:ss

Well now, while some hefty whores might consume small amounts of molasses in their pastries...

You'd be much more likely to mix molasses with oats and feed it to your horse than you would be to pour it on your pancakes. :D

PC :smokin:

[bro777]

hey all,
i've used molasses and didn't like it now i just use sugar,bout 1 tbl/gal,but only during the last 6 weeks of flowering.
:thumbsup:

[smokenss]

after having a look on wikipedia i found it is the same thing made from sugar cane.



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